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Re: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

judith bron
 

The biggest leap I ever took was to office 2010 after XP.  I’m still using Jaws 16 and everything is working fine.  I can’t imagine anything more difficult than going from XP to 2010.  You already made that giant leap.  Judith 

 

From: James Homuth [mailto:james@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 5:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

 

So it's becoming high time I give thought to retiring my old instalation of Office 2003. For reasons a-plenty, most of them outlined on this list, I'm holding off on JAWS 16 or 17 for the next little while. So my question would be this. How useable are later versions of Office, either 2013 or 2016, with JAWS? I fully expect just about everything to require a learning curve, but if half of that learning curve isn't telling JAWS not to do something dumb, then I may just go for it anyway. Thoughts and opinions are, of course, always welcome and even encouraged.


Re: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I guess I took Office 2013 as it came, had had a speck of time with 2010.
I'm 78, and don't feel overwhelmed by Windows 10, Office 2013 or JAWS 17.
I mention the age, because people seem to have the idea that the older we
get the more of a problem new projects are. I don't mean that nothing
ever is frustrating, but somehow or other, I have managed to work out
things. The list has been like a user's manual. One individual on one of
the lists took considerable time working with me with Outlook.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: James Homuth [mailto:james@the-jdh.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 5:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

So it's becoming high time I give thought to retiring my old instalation
of Office 2003. For reasons a-plenty, most of them outlined on this list,
I'm holding off on JAWS 16 or 17 for the next little while. So my
question would be this. How useable are later versions of Office, either
2013 or 2016, with JAWS? I fully expect just about everything to require
a learning curve, but if half of that learning curve isn't telling JAWS
not to do something dumb, then I may just go for it anyway. Thoughts and
opinions are, of course, always welcome and even encouraged.


JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

James Homuth
 

So it's becoming high time I give thought to retiring my old instalation of Office 2003. For reasons a-plenty, most of them outlined on this list, I'm holding off on JAWS 16 or 17 for the next little while. So my question would be this. How useable are later versions of Office, either 2013 or 2016, with JAWS? I fully expect just about everything to require a learning curve, but if half of that learning curve isn't telling JAWS not to do something dumb, then I may just go for it anyway. Thoughts and opinions are, of course, always welcome and even encouraged.


Re: looking for a free email program

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

You could try Juno, as long as you use something besides dial-up, and I guess most do.  It hasn’t been updated for a while, and didn’t work well with Win 7, but the errors appear to have been modem-related.  The software should be a free download, just put “Juno” into a search engine.  You can have either a free or paid account.

 

Ted

 

From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for aa                                           

                                    free email program

 

I also use Thunderbird pretty successfully.  However, I'm wondering how to set up TB's chat feature with Facebook.
Any ideas appreciated.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix
 

On 2/25/2016 2:58 PM, majno wrote:

Hello. Are you sure about thunderbird? i'm using thunderbird last 2 years without any problem. Maybe you should go deep in thunderbird.

El 25/02/2016 a las 15:32, marvin kotler escribió:

Good afternoon list.  My name is Marvin Kotler and I just upgraded to windows 10.  I am running jfw 17.  Does anyone know of a free e mail program out there that works with jaws? I tried thunderbird and have had not much success.  Any advice would be appreciate

 

 


Re: looking for aa free email program

 

Windows Live Mail 2012 definitely installs and runs under Windows 10.  I know that it "plays well" with JAWS 15 under Windows 7 and seemed to be doing OK under JAWS 17 on that same platform.  I can never vouch for how JAWS, Windows, and any program will interact until I've "been there, done that" but I have no reason to suspect that it would not work just fine.  Windows Live Mail is a single component of Windows Essentials, and you must download the installer for all the Essentials as a single program.  You can select which application or applications you wish during the installation process itself.

Thunderbird seems to work pretty well these days, but I actually prefer WLM 2012 better (and I have to bite my tongue as I say that, but it's true).


Opera Mail might also be an option and it's worth trying just to see if you're trying to find a "best fit."  The Opera browser was highly thought of by some in accessibility circles (WebAIM glowed back at version 9) and I have little doubt that the same design ethos is part of their e-mail client.

Gmail's Basic HTML view is very accessibility friendly if you have a gmail account and want to go the web interface route.

I would be curious to hear what experiences people may be having with the actual Mail app that comes bundled with Windows 10 as far as accessibility goes.  I've not yet known of anyone personally who's tried or been using it.  The interface is very clean, but it could be clean and utterly inaccessible as well.

Brian


Re: looking for aa free email program

Marianne Denning
 

I have a Gmail account and just check my e-mails by going directly to my Gmail account.  It is very accessible.  It allows you to receive e-mails on any other devices you have.  My computer and iPhone are both connected to the account.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 3:32 PM, marvin kotler <m.kotler53@...> wrote:
Good afternoon list.  My name is Marvin Kotler and I just upgraded to windows 10.  I am running jfw 17.  Does anyone know of a free e mail program out there that works with jaws? I tried thunderbird and have had not much success.  Any advice would be appreciate




--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: looking for aa free email program

Maria Campbell
 

I also use Thunderbird pretty successfully.  However, I'm wondering how to set up TB's chat feature with Facebook.
Any ideas appreciated.

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix

On 2/25/2016 2:58 PM, majno wrote:

Hello. Are you sure about thunderbird? i'm using thunderbird last 2 years without any problem. Maybe you should go deep in thunderbird.

El 25/02/2016 a las 15:32, marvin kotler escribió:
Good afternoon list.  My name is Marvin Kotler and I just upgraded to windows 10.  I am running jfw 17.  Does anyone know of a free e mail program out there that works with jaws? I tried thunderbird and have had not much success.  Any advice would be appreciate



Re: looking for aa free email program

majno <alfred.hl@...>
 

Hello. Are you sure about thunderbird? i'm using thunderbird last 2 years without any problem. Maybe you should go deep in thunderbird.

El 25/02/2016 a las 15:32, marvin kotler escribió:
Good afternoon list.  My name is Marvin Kotler and I just upgraded to windows 10.  I am running jfw 17.  Does anyone know of a free e mail program out there that works with jaws? I tried thunderbird and have had not much success.  Any advice would be appreciate


Re: looking for aa free email program

Mcginnis, Barbara
 

I use G-Mail.  It works well with JAWS.  I don’t know if Windows Live Mail works with Windows 10.  Someone on this list might know.

 

From: Londa Peterson [mailto:lpeterson@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:42 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: looking for aa free email program

 

Try Windows Live Mail. I don't have a link for it, but Google should find it for you.

 

From: marvin kotler [mailto:m.kotler53@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:32 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: looking for aa free email program

 

Good afternoon list.  My name is Marvin Kotler and I just upgraded to windows 10.  I am running jfw 17.  Does anyone know of a free e mail program out there that works with jaws? I tried thunderbird and have had not much success.  Any advice would be appreciate




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Re: looking for aa free email program

Londa Peterson
 

Try Windows Live Mail. I don't have a link for it, but Google should find it for you.

 

From: marvin kotler [mailto:m.kotler53@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:32 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: looking for aa free email program

 

Good afternoon list.  My name is Marvin Kotler and I just upgraded to windows 10.  I am running jfw 17.  Does anyone know of a free e mail program out there that works with jaws? I tried thunderbird and have had not much success.  Any advice would be appreciate


looking for aa free email program

marvin kotler
 

Good afternoon list.  My name is Marvin Kotler and I just upgraded to windows 10.  I am running jfw 17.  Does anyone know of a free e mail program out there that works with jaws? I tried thunderbird and have had not much success.  Any advice would be appreciate


Re: Changing themes, using the "start memu", to get rid of "task switching" ...

 

Cortana is dependent on having the correct hardware (a microphone is required if you want to interact with her verbally) as well as Windows 10 settings.

Out of the box, if your hardware has the required elements, you log in with a Microsoft Account or can provide the necessary Microsoft Account credentials to use Cortana if you use a local account, and you haven't intentionally disabled her she should function.  The "Hey Cortana" feature is not (or at least was not) enabled by default.

If you or anyone else wants to delve into Cortana I will be happy to do so either on the Windows 10 Screen Reader Users forum or privately.  She falls quite outside the scope of JFW in terms of deep discussion.

Brian


Re: Changing themes, using the "start memu", to get rid of "task switching" ...

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I can’t get Cortana to work for the life of me!

 

Someone should listen to see where I’m messing up.

From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:42 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing themes, using the "start memu", to get rid of "task switching" ...

 

Hi Jim,

I encourage you like Brian said. I used Windows 8.1, and liked it compared to Windows 7. Now, win10 is indeed the best of win7 and win8.1. Here are just some of the pluses you will get with win10. First, you will be able to use universal apps like one does on a smartphone. Second, you will be able to use Cortana. You can ask cortana to open any settings on your computer, whether forcast in your area or anyware in the world, conversion questions, and on and on. Cortana beats Siri by far. This is just the beginning. The settings app has many of your settings in 9 groups that are so easy to navigate. The start area is better than Windows 7 by far. Win10 is much faster than win7. I could go on and on, and upgrading is totally free and painless. I encourage you to join win10@groups.io as well, and read how others are loving win10. Have a great one.

 

 

Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:29 PM

Subject: Re: Changing themes, using the "start memu", to get rid of "task switching" ...

 

Jim,

         As a P.S., I'd also encourage you to start looking into upgrading to Windows 10.  I loved Windows 7 and was really, really ambivalent about Windows 8/8.1, but Windows 10 really is a merger of the best of both of its immediate predecessors.

         You may want to consider joining the Windows 10 Screen Reader Users group just to follow the experiences of others as a part of your decision making process.

Brian


Re: Changing themes, using the "start memu", to get rid of "task switching" ...

David Moore
 

Hi Jim,
I encourage you like Brian said. I used Windows 8.1, and liked it compared to Windows 7. Now, win10 is indeed the best of win7 and win8.1. Here are just some of the pluses you will get with win10. First, you will be able to use universal apps like one does on a smartphone. Second, you will be able to use Cortana. You can ask cortana to open any settings on your computer, whether forcast in your area or anyware in the world, conversion questions, and on and on. Cortana beats Siri by far. This is just the beginning. The settings app has many of your settings in 9 groups that are so easy to navigate. The start area is better than Windows 7 by far. Win10 is much faster than win7. I could go on and on, and upgrading is totally free and painless. I encourage you to join win10@groups.io as well, and read how others are loving win10. Have a great one.
 
 

Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Changing themes, using the "start memu", to get rid of "task switching" ...
 

Jim,

         As a P.S., I'd also encourage you to start looking into upgrading to Windows 10.  I loved Windows 7 and was really, really ambivalent about Windows 8/8.1, but Windows 10 really is a merger of the best of both of its immediate predecessors.

         You may want to consider joining the Windows 10 Screen Reader Users group just to follow the experiences of others as a part of your decision making process.

Brian


Re: Changing themes, using the "start memu", to get rid of "task switching" ...

 

Jim,

         As a P.S., I'd also encourage you to start looking into upgrading to Windows 10.  I loved Windows 7 and was really, really ambivalent about Windows 8/8.1, but Windows 10 really is a merger of the best of both of its immediate predecessors.

         You may want to consider joining the Windows 10 Screen Reader Users group just to follow the experiences of others as a part of your decision making process.

Brian


Re: Changing themes, using the "start memu", to get rid of "task switching" ...

 

Jim,

         Since I generally discourage people from going the "make it look like an older version" route, for many reasons, I cannot answer your question so far as how well any of the created "Windows Classic" themes that can be acquired for Windows 8.1 actually work.

         Take a look at some of the results from this DuckDuckGo search for Windows Classic Theme for Windows 8.1.  It will be trial and error to see if you can find something that truly meets your needs.

Brian


Re: Changing themes, using the "start memu", to get rid of "task switching" ...

HAMILTON
 

Then, can I assume that Windows Classic Theme does not exist for Windows 8.1? If so, I have been wasting everyone's time! However, if it is available for Windows 8.1, please send the instructions for getting it installed on my PC. Thanks. Jim H


Re: Urgent: Google docs focus issues

Tasha Raella Chemel <tasha.chemel@...>
 

With smart nav turned on, the problem is happening less, but after pressing enter on the “explore” edit field (I don’t know what this field actually is), I still sometimes have to alt-tab away from the document and back into it. Since this problem happens sporadically, I’m not sure whether turning smart nav on actually did anything.

 

From: Tasha Raella Chemel [mailto:tasha.chemel@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Urgent: Google docs focus issues

 

It’s a shared document in  a folder and both internet explorer and firefox hav the same problems with focus.

 

From: Marianne Denning [mailto:marianne@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Urgent: Google docs focus issues

 

It can definitely be done. Are they sharing the document with you? Is it inside of a folder? John's also says that Internet explorer actually works better with Google then Firefox. Those are just some thought.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Tasha Raella Chemel <tasha.chemel@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have the latest version of Firefox, Windows 8.1, and the latest Jaws 17 update. I’ve read all the documentation pertaining to Google docs and Google Drive, and I can’t for the life of me figure out how to get either Docs or Sheets to be in focus after I open them. In sheets, I land up in an edit field labeled explore, and through a combination of turning the virtual cursor off, entering forms mode and exiting it, and alt-tabbing, I can usually get the document to be in focus so I can read and edit it, but it sometimes takes me ten minutes. This is extremely frustrating, since I just started a new job. If at all possible, I’d like to avoid having to download the doc in excel and re-upload it. I also unfortunately  can’t use Cloud hq and synch google sheets to dropbox because if another person is editing the document, my changes don’t get synced to the document and instead, a new doc is created.

 

Any help with this would be incredibly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Tasha


Re: turbo tax in Canada

Shane Davidson
 

Hit your escape key.
Shane

On 2/25/2016 9:20 AM, Mark Furness wrote:
How do I take myself out of form mode?

Thank you for the answer!
mark
On Feb 25, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Shane Davidson <shane.davidson@...> wrote:

Take yourself out of forms mode and read the page with arrow keys.
I just finished filing taxes under this situation with the same setup and that's how I got it done.
Shane
On 2/25/2016 7:25 AM, Mark Furness wrote:
For years I have always used Turbo tax to do my income tax.
Now when I tab to go to the next question sometimes it does not say what the question is,  if it is a check box, I hear yes or no, but for what I could not find out.
Routing the jaws or invisible to the PC the screen could not be read. Doing an OCR would not read the question.
All these problems might be caused because I am now running windows 10, with the latest and greatest version of Jaws17. This is the only explaination I have at this time.
If anyone has a suggestion how to fix this problem I would  greatly appreciate it!!!

Mark






Re: turbo tax in Canada

Mark Furness
 

How do I take myself out of form mode?

Thank you for the answer!
mark

On Feb 25, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Shane Davidson <shane.davidson@...> wrote:

Take yourself out of forms mode and read the page with arrow keys.
I just finished filing taxes under this situation with the same setup and that's how I got it done.
Shane
On 2/25/2016 7:25 AM, Mark Furness wrote:
For years I have always used Turbo tax to do my income tax.
Now when I tab to go to the next question sometimes it does not say what the question is,  if it is a check box, I hear yes or no, but for what I could not find out.
Routing the jaws or invisible to the PC the screen could not be read. Doing an OCR would not read the question.
All these problems might be caused because I am now running windows 10, with the latest and greatest version of Jaws17. This is the only explaination I have at this time.
If anyone has a suggestion how to fix this problem I would  greatly appreciate it!!!

Mark