Re: Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop
Hi,
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In JAWS 15 and later, press Shift+Numpad plus. Cheers, Joseph
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From: "Dale Alton" <blinkydale@... To: jfw@groups.io Date sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:52:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop How do you activate it? Denver Dale From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 5:04 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop Hi, Press Numpad Plus twice quickly to return to PC cursor. Despite its name, touch cursor isn뭪 limited to tablets � it is actually a fancy name for object navigation. Touch cursor comes in handy if you need to work with modern apps (including universal apps) where object navigation/touch cursor usage is essential. Cheers, Joseph From: Crist�bal [mailto:crismunoz54@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:11 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop Hello list, So while typing away doing this and that on my business desktop, I must have been too fast and sloppy because now, I seem to have enabled some sort of touch mode for a tablet PC and Jaws. Naturally, the famous search for command feature that was introduced in one of the recent Jaws updates isn뭪 giving me any results no matter what I type. Poking around the Jaws help files isnt� giving me anything either. I have to imagine it뭩 a toggle keystroke, but so far, I haven뭪 found it. The closeest I뭭e come to is insert+shift+semi-colin for the touch cursor which doesn뭪� get me out of this mode. I뭢 banging out this email on my personal laptop, but I need to be able to work with my business machine. I thought I뭗 shoot an email to folks with more experience with the touch interface of Jaws while I continue my search for a solution. Thanks,
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Re: TB annoyance
Mario, This is typically seen if you don't have the "Remember my password" (or something similar, I don't have Thunderbird on this box, but have used it tons) setting checked in your actual e-mail account settings within TB itself. If it's not checked, even if you entered it when setting up the account, it will be "forgotten" by design so that you have to enter it each time you need to connect to the server. Go into your account settings and double check on the page where your full login information is stored. Brian
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Re: Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop
Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
How do you activate it?
Denver Dale
From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 5:04 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop
Hi, Press Numpad Plus twice quickly to return to PC cursor. Despite its name, touch cursor isn’t limited to tablets – it is actually a fancy name for object navigation. Touch cursor comes in handy if you need to work with modern apps (including universal apps) where object navigation/touch cursor usage is essential. Cheers, Joseph
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@...]
Hello list, So while typing away doing this and that on my business desktop, I must have been too fast and sloppy because now, I seem to have enabled some sort of touch mode for a tablet PC and Jaws. Naturally, the famous search for command feature that was introduced in one of the recent Jaws updates isn’t giving me any results no matter what I type. Poking around the Jaws help files isnt’ giving me anything either. I have to imagine it’s a toggle keystroke, but so far, I haven’t found it. The closeest I’ve come to is insert+shift+semi-colin for the touch cursor which doesn’t’ get me out of this mode. I’m banging out this email on my personal laptop, but I need to be able to work with my business machine. I thought I’d shoot an email to folks with more experience with the touch interface of Jaws while I continue my search for a solution.
Thanks,
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Re: uninstalling talking installer
Mike and Jenna <schwaltze@...>
Hi,
I always uninstall all the talking installers with no problems.
From: Jim L [mailto:jimscave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:42 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: uninstalling talking installer
Heya folks,
Been doing a general clean up of my windows 7 PC and found I had a few versions of Jaws talking installers still installed which I uninstalled those Jaws versions awhile ago, as am using the latest Jaws 17 now. Is it safe to uninstall those older talking installers 15 and 16 and won’t affect my latest version 17 in any way?
Cheers,
Jim
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Re: Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop
Hi, Press Numpad Plus twice quickly to return to PC cursor. Despite its name, touch cursor isn’t limited to tablets – it is actually a fancy name for object navigation. Touch cursor comes in handy if you need to work with modern apps (including universal apps) where object navigation/touch cursor usage is essential. Cheers, Joseph
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:11 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop
Hello list, So while typing away doing this and that on my business desktop, I must have been too fast and sloppy because now, I seem to have enabled some sort of touch mode for a tablet PC and Jaws. Naturally, the famous search for command feature that was introduced in one of the recent Jaws updates isn’t giving me any results no matter what I type. Poking around the Jaws help files isnt’ giving me anything either. I have to imagine it’s a toggle keystroke, but so far, I haven’t found it. The closeest I’ve come to is insert+shift+semi-colin for the touch cursor which doesn’t’ get me out of this mode. I’m banging out this email on my personal laptop, but I need to be able to work with my business machine. I thought I’d shoot an email to folks with more experience with the touch interface of Jaws while I continue my search for a solution.
Thanks,
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Re: simply do not alt tab;suggested solution for using Adobe
Robert Logue
Thanks Artur. It is crazy that that dialog does not always show up
using Jaws. I've seen that happen lots of times before the current
versions of Reader and Jaws. I've had to hunt for it many times
over the last few years.
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I see they have slightly changed the name of the dialog. Reading Untagged Document with Assistive Technology And, yes. I just tested by alt tabbing away from the dialog and it is not in focus when I alt tab back to Acrobat Reader DC. However, I Press the Jaws to pc key and landed right on it this time. But, then when I rout pc to jaws, it's still not in focus. Had to right click something to focus it. I just tested with NVDA and can't even get back to the dialog. It's like it is in a sepperet window that is removed from the app switching list when I alt tab away. I have no idea how to get back to it with NVDA. Now I need to read the whole thread to see what else is being done to fix this. Bob
On 2/4/2016 4:33 AM, Artur Räpp wrote:
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Resolved Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop
Cristóbal
A quick follow up. I figured it out. PC cursor press twice quickly. Thank you,
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:11 PM To: 'jfw@groups.io' Subject: Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop
Hello list, So while typing away doing this and that on my business desktop, I must have been too fast and sloppy because now, I seem to have enabled some sort of touch mode for a tablet PC and Jaws. Naturally, the famous search for command feature that was introduced in one of the recent Jaws updates isn’t giving me any results no matter what I type. Poking around the Jaws help files isnt’ giving me anything either. I have to imagine it’s a toggle keystroke, but so far, I haven’t found it. The closeest I’ve come to is insert+shift+semi-colin for the touch cursor which doesn’t’ get me out of this mode. I’m banging out this email on my personal laptop, but I need to be able to work with my business machine. I thought I’d shoot an email to folks with more experience with the touch interface of Jaws while I continue my search for a solution.
Thanks,
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Accidentally enabled the Jaws Touch features on my desktop
Cristóbal
Hello list, So while typing away doing this and that on my business desktop, I must have been too fast and sloppy because now, I seem to have enabled some sort of touch mode for a tablet PC and Jaws. Naturally, the famous search for command feature that was introduced in one of the recent Jaws updates isn’t giving me any results no matter what I type. Poking around the Jaws help files isnt’ giving me anything either. I have to imagine it’s a toggle keystroke, but so far, I haven’t found it. The closeest I’ve come to is insert+shift+semi-colin for the touch cursor which doesn’t’ get me out of this mode. I’m banging out this email on my personal laptop, but I need to be able to work with my business machine. I thought I’d shoot an email to folks with more experience with the touch interface of Jaws while I continue my search for a solution.
Thanks,
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Re: Google Cast extiion
Shane clark
brian, thanks for this info.
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 3:21 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Re: uninstalling talking installer
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Jim. You'll be fine as long as the Talking Installer you
are removing is not for the current version you are using for JAWS.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
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TB annoyance
Mario
every time Thunderbird is started and when I want to send an email, I am asked for a password. someone mentioned there might be a broken setting or something like that, but I can't recall the fix. someone help as it's becoming rather annoying.
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uninstalling talking installer
Jim L
Heya folks,
Been doing a general clean up of my windows 7 PC and found I had a few versions of Jaws talking installers still installed which I uninstalled those Jaws versions awhile ago, as am using the latest Jaws 17 now. Is it safe to uninstall those older talking installers 15 and 16 and won’t affect my latest version 17 in any way?
Cheers,
Jim
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Re: Google Cast extiion
Shane, The Chromecast extension will only cast what appears in a tab in Chrome (or full screen if enlarged from Chrome) to your TV set. JAWS 11 is, at this point, in "the wayback machine" as far as web browser features go and I'm not surprised that it is not announcing the pop-up/drop-down menu for Chromecast. I just now tested with NVDA and it is announcing "Google Cast Extension" when it lands on the button in Chrome's main control bar and is announcing all the items, the first of which is "cast to {the name I gave my Chromecast dongle}, followed by "separator," menu items options, send feedback, and help. I just looked at the Kodi.tv website and Kodi appears to be a stand-alone media player program. I see no browser-related extensions/add-ins on their site and searches on cast, casting, and Chromecast turn up nothing that indicates Kodi and Chromecast can be used together in any way. Brian
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Re: Google Cast extiion
Shane clark
Hi Brian,
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016, 12:49 AM Shane clark <hshaneclark@...> wrote:
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Re: Subject Change: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity
James Homuth
This
thread in particular is a candidate for a closing. A little topic drift is
expected on a mailing list this large. That's why I moved the list to groups.io
- people who have no interest in the thread can, therefore, not be included in
that thread. I've been keeping an eye on the original thread and a few others.
For the moment, nothing has happened that's warranted me stepping in. Please
keep it that way. In the meantime, if anyone has problems with something on the
list, please refer to the policies.
James,
List Admin
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...] Sent: February-10-16 11:20 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Subject Change: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity I think that changing a subject line to reflect the current topic is both helpful and respectful to the other members of the group. And I don't think that anyone would argue that fact provided the new subject might possibly have any interest to the broader group. If you've dropped reading the originally referenced thread I will pretty much assure you that things like discussing our experience of age, how many 'c's are in Al Pacino's name, and a plethora of trivial sidebars are entirely unlikely to be subjects worthy of their own threads. There's a balance to be struck, and so far not renaming most of the drifted contributions seems entirely reasonable based upon their very content. They're not topics that warrant a separate thread and most likely would result in wailing about "off topic posts." This very thread has the very real danger of starting that type of wailing, but here I am! As far as moderators go, I'm in favor of hands-off except in case of flame war. I've seen way more than one lively list, with mostly on-topic posts, die because a moderator enforced their own purity tests rather than letting the cohort posting decide what was OK and what was not. Brian
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Re: Subject Change: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity
Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
In the cases you've described, simply adding an OT: to the Subject would probably let the readers know it's gotten far afield of the list's topic range. And yes, I've seen and encountered many examples of over-moderation and also selective moderation too.
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From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:20 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Subject Change: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 08:12 am, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote: I think that changing a subject line to reflect the current topic is both helpful and respectful to the other members of the group. And I don't think that anyone would argue that fact provided the new subject might possibly have any interest to the broader group. If you've dropped reading the originally referenced thread I will pretty much assure you that things like discussing our experience of age, how many 'c's are in Al Pacino's name, and a plethora of trivial sidebars are entirely unlikely to be subjects worthy of their own threads. There's a balance to be struck, and so far not renaming most of the drifted contributions seems entirely reasonable based upon their very content. They're not topics that warrant a separate thread and most likely would result in wailing about "off topic posts." This very thread has the very real danger of starting that type of wailing, but here I am! As far as moderators go, I'm in favor of hands-off except in case of flame war. I've seen way more than one lively list, with mostly on-topic posts, die because a moderator enforced their own purity tests rather than letting the cohort posting decide what was OK and what was not. Brian
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Re: Subject Change: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 08:12 am, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:
I think that changing a subject line to reflect the current topic is both helpful and respectful to the other members of the group. And I don't think that anyone would argue that fact provided the new subject might possibly have any interest to the broader group. If you've dropped reading the originally referenced thread I will pretty much assure you that things like discussing our experience of age, how many 'c's are in Al Pacino's name, and a plethora of trivial sidebars are entirely unlikely to be subjects worthy of their own threads. There's a balance to be struck, and so far not renaming most of the drifted contributions seems entirely reasonable based upon their very content. They're not topics that warrant a separate thread and most likely would result in wailing about "off topic posts." This very thread has the very real danger of starting that type of wailing, but here I am! As far as moderators go, I'm in favor of hands-off except in case of flame war. I've seen way more than one lively list, with mostly on-topic posts, die because a moderator enforced their own purity tests rather than letting the cohort posting decide what was OK and what was not. Brian
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Re: Subject Change: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity
Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
I think that changing a subject line to reflect the current topic is both helpful and respectful to the other members of the group. Assuming topic drift is a lot to ask, and any threading code worth its salt should be able to keep threads in the same conversation using message header data. (Even Outlook Express could do this back in 1995) That said, it's also very helpful if old threads are referenced in the subject line to let folks know it's drift from the prior topic. This has been the standard for netiquette dating back from the BBS and DARPANet days.
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Here's an example of such a subject line: Subject: USB Lego Interface (Was: Accessible Chutes and Ladders Diagnostics) This both preserves thread awareness while also giving folks who may have dropped the thread a chance to return to it if they're interested. And it also helps moderators in monitoring topicality of a thread.
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From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:44 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Subject Change: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity Asked and answered on the original thread. I doubt that people are thankful for the creation of a thread to complain about another thread that's been suffering thread drift for some days now. It could lead to some "interesting" snowballing were people to do that on a routine basis. Not changing the subject allows people to avoid uninteresting content far more easily. If there's actually another serious subject, then create a new thread. Brian
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Re: Subject Change: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity
Asked and answered on the original thread. I doubt that people are thankful for the creation of a thread to complain about another thread that's been suffering thread drift for some days now. It could lead to some "interesting" snowballing were people to do that on a routine basis. Not changing the subject allows people to avoid uninteresting content far more easily. If there's actually another serious subject, then create a new thread. Brian
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Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Good to know, I’m a lot stronger on Spanish.
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 4:24 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 12:56 pm, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote: I'd bet on cc too. Al Pacino - single 'c'. This page on pronouncing consonants in Italian gives good guidelines. Since Al's 'c' is before an 'i' it gets the same treatment as the "ch" in church does. Brian, mega thread drift
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