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Re: MathML and PDF files

 

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 08:16 pm, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:
There are questions that are
not followed by multiple choice answers and even at least one set of
answers without a question, and those answers don't seem like they
would go with a question that was missing answers.

 This is a bit of a mystery to me since the layout of the document is a standard "two column" format with reading intended to go from top to bottom on the left column then the same for the right column.   The vast majority of answers are A, B, C, and D that immediately follow the question.

There is a "weird" layout for a question in the Graphs and Equations of Lines, which is badly laid out as far as I'm concerned whether you can see or not, and that I have no idea how you would begin to make it accessible unless each graph is described, because the A, B, C, and D, choices are actual full graphs.  The question is number two and starts with "Anita's department store determined that," and ends with, "relationship between p and s."  Graph answer A is directly below the question, which is in the right column near the bottom on PDF page 6.  Then, graph answers B, C, and D are on PDF page 7 and are the three items that make up the left column on that page.  Question 6 on PDF page 10 is laid out with the entire question posed at the bottom of the left column but it's A, B, C, & D answers are "free floating" at the top of the right column.  There aren't tons of these, but enough that I'd imagine it could be challenging for a screen reader to interpret what's what correctly.   Heaven only knows how the various mathematical equations and expressions are read.  I won't get around to playing with this thing in NVDA at all until tomorrow at earliest.

Brian


Re: MathML and PDF files

Soronel Haetir
 

The spelling problems were taken care of getting it from that link,
but not how screwed up the layout is. There are questions that are
not followed by multiple choice answers and even at least one set of
answers without a question, and those answers don't seem like they
would go with a question that was missing answers.

On 2/2/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Soronel,

         It didn't occur to me, but I think I have my Google Drive set up to
allow Google to convert the file to its own storage format, then convert it
back on download, which could be problematic here.

         Try direct download from my Amazon webspace, where I gave the file
a slightly shorter name, NCCCS-SampleQuestionsCvr.pdf

         It will be interesting to see if this makes any difference.

Brian
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soronel.haetir@gmail.com


fsreader issue

Joseph Weakland
 

greetings has anyone ever had this issue where you go to play a daisy book in latest FSReader and you know book is audio in it but when pressing ctrlp for play no audio? if you was able to rectify how did you do it?


Re: Avery Wizard with JAWS

Brad Martin
 

I think I tried the virtual cursor off thing. The problem in this case is that pressing tab puts an actual tab in the document, which I don't need.

Brad

On 2/2/2016 8:57 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Brad,

 

Uncharacteristically, you don’t list the methods you’ve tried. The one that seems to work a lot lately is to turn off the virtual cursor with the JAWS key+z toggle. Then tab around. Often it picks up controls that JAWS isn’t finding with the virtual cursor on. After that, I sometimes have to alternate between the virtual cursor off and on. but the first trick is to find that pesky “Next” button.

 

From: Brad Martin [mailto:brad@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:37 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Avery Wizard with JAWS

 

Has anybody tried to use the latest (which isn't exactly new) Avery Wizard with JAWS? I can begin a project, select a label/business card type, and even
enter text for it. I've even managed to at least change the font to the size I need. But once I've entered my text, I can't find a next button. It's like,
"I've typed my text; now what do I do with it?" I'm stuck. Eventually I can get JAWS and Avery to just lock up all over the place. What am I missing? I
feel like there should be a next button where the wizard would start processing the information and generating a page of business cards, if only I could
find the next button. Let me guess; it's in something called a hamburger stack or a hotdog bun or, God forbid, a Cheesy Gordita Crunch. Any suggestions?

Brad



Re: Determining case of letters in an email

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hey, thanks, Adrian,

I found out my caps voice was only 20% higher than usual, and that just wasn't enough. After the adjustment you described, all's good now. Thanks very much, and Dave, too. Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Determining case of letters in an email

Keith,

I wonder if you have JAWS set for uppercase recognition. When you move character by character, you should hear a higher pitch, as David says. If not, you'll need to go to the setting. You find it in the JAWS key+j menus, as follows:

When you press JAWS key+j, you'll land on "Options submenu." Press enter. (I'm sure this will be familiar territory.)

Now you'll hear "Voices..." Press enter again.

Press enter yet again on "Voice Profiles." If I'm not mistaken, JAWS will verbalize whichever voice profile you are running.

Keep tabbing until you get to "Voice uppercase pitch change." On my system, I had to tab eleven times.

As I recall, you adjust the pitch change with the up and down arrows. I notice that mine is set at 50%, and I find the difference in pitch pretty obvious.

I can't remember if an "apply" button appears when you make this change or if it's just enough to tab to Okay. Tab three or so times past Okay to make sure.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:15 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Determining case of letters in an email

Hi,

I know I should know this, but I don't.

I receive an email several times weekly that has a case-sensitive letter code within the message that I need to text message back to the sender.

How can I figure out which letters are upper case? They come in a string of 6.

Thanks, Keith


Re: MathML and PDF files

 

Soronel,

         It didn't occur to me, but I think I have my Google Drive set up to allow Google to convert the file to its own storage format, then convert it back on download, which could be problematic here.

         Try direct download from my Amazon webspace, where I gave the file a slightly shorter name, NCCCS-SampleQuestionsCvr.pdf

         It will be interesting to see if this makes any difference.

Brian


Re: Determining case of letters in an email

Adrian Spratt
 

Keith,

I wonder if you have JAWS set for uppercase recognition. When you move character by character, you should hear a higher pitch, as David says. If not, you'll need to go to the setting. You find it in the JAWS key+j menus, as follows:

When you press JAWS key+j, you'll land on "Options submenu." Press enter. (I'm sure this will be familiar territory.)

Now you'll hear "Voices..." Press enter again.

Press enter yet again on "Voice Profiles." If I'm not mistaken, JAWS will verbalize whichever voice profile you are running.

Keep tabbing until you get to "Voice uppercase pitch change." On my system, I had to tab eleven times.

As I recall, you adjust the pitch change with the up and down arrows. I notice that mine is set at 50%, and I find the difference in pitch pretty obvious.

I can't remember if an "apply" button appears when you make this change or if it's just enough to tab to Okay. Tab three or so times past Okay to make sure.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:15 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Determining case of letters in an email

Hi,

I know I should know this, but I don't.

I receive an email several times weekly that has a case-sensitive letter code within the message that I need to text message back to the sender.

How can I figure out which letters are upper case? They come in a string of 6.

Thanks, Keith


Re: MathML and PDF files

 

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 06:48 pm, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:
is that the product of some conversion process?

 I would have to think it's something with the conversion process or screen reader (I haven't tried listening in NVDA).  This is a publication of The College Board in conjunction with several other higher education entities.

I haven't read every word of the 25 pages, either, but what I have read has been pretty impeccable.

Brian


Re: MathML and PDF files

Soronel Haetir
 

And trying it in adobe reader is even worse. In reader the potential
answers don't even show up, It goes straight from the question portion
of the first question to the 2. that leads the second. (Trying it in
reader it also went straight to the print dialog which is not normal
in my experience.

On 2/2/16, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
Is the atrocious spelling in the original or is that the product of
some conversion process?

(For example several instances of "te" instead of "the")

On 2/2/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All,

            I actually got a reply from the Accuplacer folks today with
an
attachment that they claim is an accessible version of the document Pablo
mentioned back in December.    I have uploaded same to my Google Drive
and
you can get it by clicking here if you'd like to play with it to see how
accessible it actually is.

            If anyone has trouble with downloading from Google Drive and
wants a copy please send me an e-mail or private message and I'd be happy
to
send it to you via e-mail attachment.

Brian

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soronel.haetir@gmail.com
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soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: Avery Wizard with JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

Brad,

 

Uncharacteristically, you don’t list the methods you’ve tried. The one that seems to work a lot lately is to turn off the virtual cursor with the JAWS key+z toggle. Then tab around. Often it picks up controls that JAWS isn’t finding with the virtual cursor on. After that, I sometimes have to alternate between the virtual cursor off and on. but the first trick is to find that pesky “Next” button.

 

From: Brad Martin [mailto:brad@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:37 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Avery Wizard with JAWS

 

Has anybody tried to use the latest (which isn't exactly new) Avery Wizard with JAWS? I can begin a project, select a label/business card type, and even
enter text for it. I've even managed to at least change the font to the size I need. But once I've entered my text, I can't find a next button. It's like,
"I've typed my text; now what do I do with it?" I'm stuck. Eventually I can get JAWS and Avery to just lock up all over the place. What am I missing? I
feel like there should be a next button where the wizard would start processing the information and generating a page of business cards, if only I could
find the next button. Let me guess; it's in something called a hamburger stack or a hotdog bun or, God forbid, a Cheesy Gordita Crunch. Any suggestions?

Brad


Re: MathML and PDF files

Soronel Haetir
 

Is the atrocious spelling in the original or is that the product of
some conversion process?

(For example several instances of "te" instead of "the")

On 2/2/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All,

            I actually got a reply from the Accuplacer folks today with an
attachment that they claim is an accessible version of the document Pablo
mentioned back in December.    I have uploaded same to my Google Drive and
you can get it by clicking here if you'd like to play with it to see how
accessible it actually is.

            If anyone has trouble with downloading from Google Drive and
wants a copy please send me an e-mail or private message and I'd be happy to
send it to you via e-mail attachment.

Brian
--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: Determining case of letters in an email

David Moore
 

Hi,
With JAWS, the letters in upper case should have a higher pitch associated with them as you arrow across them letter by letter. Have a great one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:14 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Determining case of letters in an email

Hi,

I know I should know this, but I don't.

I receive an email several times weekly that has a case-sensitive letter code within the message that I need to text message back to the sender.

How can I figure out which letters are upper case? They come in a string of 6.

Thanks, Keith


Determining case of letters in an email

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi,

I know I should know this, but I don't.

I receive an email several times weekly that has a case-sensitive letter code within the message that I need to text message back to the sender.

How can I figure out which letters are upper case? They come in a string of 6.

Thanks, Keith


Event viewer and log files

Jason White
 

In an unsuccessful attempt to find out what might be causing problems that I
was having, I invoked Event Viewer on a Windows 7 system today.

The obvious first step was to sort the entries by date and time, newest first.
After moving focus to the "date" header, neither pressing enter, nor routing
the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor and issuing a simulated right click sorted
the list of log entries by date. Clicking on any of the header names is
supposed to sort the list of log entries by that field.

I'm accustomed to using command line tools to search and filter og files under
Linux. What is the most effective way to do this under
Windows with JAWS? Microsoft PowerShell may offer a solution and it could be
the next option to investigate.


Re: Question what is a good Jaws accessible income tax program for filing your taxes here in Canada

Hank & Patty <hank1patty@...>
 

 
Hello back Brad,
 
Ok, oh well, (frown). Thanks very much though for getting back to me so soon with this info. Hopefully I can find a good jaws accessible tax program for filing your income taxes here in Canada.
 
If anyone maybe knows of a good Jaws accessible income tax program for filing your taxes here in Canada, your wonderful help with this would be so very much appreciated! Much thanks in advance for any help I can maybe get with this.
 
 
 
 
 
All the best,
 
Hank
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Question about MyFreeTaxes.com for filing your taxes here in Canada
 
Unfortunately, no. :-( MyFreeTaxes only includes U.S. tax forms. So sorry.

Brad

On 2/2/2016 7:16 PM, Hank & Patty wrote:
 
Hello,
 
Does anyone maybe know if a perssoan can also use MyFreeTaxes.com for filing your income taxes here in Canada
Thanks muchly in advance for any help I can maybe get on this.
 
 
 
 
All the best,
 
Hank
 
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS and Taxes
 
I'm going to try to answer this question, but I'm having a lot of trouble with this Email address of mine.

I use MyFreeTaxes.com which is completely free if your income is below $62,000. It will launch you into H&R Block, but by starting at MyFreeTaxes.com you get the free service if you meet the income limit. Very very accessible and easy to use. And it handles more than just basic returns. It can do almost anything except foreign income and I think city/local taxes. It lets you do federal and up to three states free.

Brad

On 2/2/2016 11:45 AM, Walker, Michael E wrote:

Hi,

 

What have you found to be the most accessible program for filing income taxes with JAWS?

 

Thank you,

Mike




Re: working with application mode

Brad Martin
 

Below is my response to this question. My mail got hung up in never never land. I hope the message below is of some use.

Brad
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: working with application mode
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:43:48 -0600
From: Brad Martin <brad@...>
To: jfw@groups.io


I very much agree. I've never even really understood what it is, except that JAWS says I'm in Application mode, and then nothing works as expected. Here is what I've been able to determine from my limited experience. This is absolutely nothing official, but it has made managing "application mode" a little less painful.

Sometimes when I try to read the text in an edit field when I'm in application mode, nothing works right and I can't hear anything. Often shift tabbing away from the field, then tabbing back to it will cause it to act normally.

You see this often with text editors for composing text with rich formatting. Using it often means highlighting (in the usual way with shift and arrow keys or control and arrow keys), then exiting forms mode and finding the formatting button you want (bold, underline, insert hyperlink, bulleted list, numbered list, etc.)

I think it sometimes works a little better in Internet Explorer, although I've stumbled through it enough in Firefox that I can do it there and that's what I do 95% of the time.

Probably not much help, but if you have specific questions, I'll do my best to answer. I used to absolutely dread hearing the words, "Application mode on", but I've reached a point of semi-comfortable resignation now that I've figured out how to use it, even if it's with some trial and error.

Brad


On 1/31/2016 12:00 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Can I get some pointers to documentation for working with application mode and Jaws on web pages?
A search for application mode in the Jaws manual didn't find anything helpful.

I'm not having much luck using application mode where I find it more often these days.  Standard keyboard navigation just does not work.Perhaps there are tricks I don't know about.

Bob







Avery Wizard with JAWS

Brad Martin
 

Has anybody tried to use the latest (which isn't exactly new) Avery Wizard with JAWS? I can begin a project, select a label/business card type, and even
enter text for it. I've even managed to at least change the font to the size I need. But once I've entered my text, I can't find a next button. It's like,
"I've typed my text; now what do I do with it?" I'm stuck. Eventually I can get JAWS and Avery to just lock up all over the place. What am I missing? I
feel like there should be a next button where the wizard would start processing the information and generating a page of business cards, if only I could
find the next button. Let me guess; it's in something called a hamburger stack or a hotdog bun or, God forbid, a Cheesy Gordita Crunch. Any suggestions?

Brad


Re: Question about MyFreeTaxes.com for filing your taxes here in Canada

Brad Martin
 

Unfortunately, no. :-( MyFreeTaxes only includes U.S. tax forms. So sorry.

Brad

On 2/2/2016 7:16 PM, Hank & Patty wrote:
 
Hello,
 
Does anyone maybe know if a perssoan can also use MyFreeTaxes.com for filing your income taxes here in Canada
Thanks muchly in advance for any help I can maybe get on this.
 
 
 
 
All the best,
 
Hank
 
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS and Taxes
 
I'm going to try to answer this question, but I'm having a lot of trouble with this Email address of mine.

I use MyFreeTaxes.com which is completely free if your income is below $62,000. It will launch you into H&R Block, but by starting at MyFreeTaxes.com you get the free service if you meet the income limit. Very very accessible and easy to use. And it handles more than just basic returns. It can do almost anything except foreign income and I think city/local taxes. It lets you do federal and up to three states free.

Brad

On 2/2/2016 11:45 AM, Walker, Michael E wrote:

Hi,

 

What have you found to be the most accessible program for filing income taxes with JAWS?

 

Thank you,

Mike




Re: Question about MyFreeTaxes.com for filing your taxes here in Canada

Hank & Patty <hank1patty@...>
 

 
Hello,
 
Does anyone maybe know if a perssoan can also use MyFreeTaxes.com for filing your income taxes here in Canada
Thanks muchly in advance for any help I can maybe get on this.
 
 
 
 
All the best,
 
Hank
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS and Taxes
 
I'm going to try to answer this question, but I'm having a lot of trouble with this Email address of mine.

I use MyFreeTaxes.com which is completely free if your income is below $62,000. It will launch you into H&R Block, but by starting at MyFreeTaxes.com you get the free service if you meet the income limit. Very very accessible and easy to use. And it handles more than just basic returns. It can do almost anything except foreign income and I think city/local taxes. It lets you do federal and up to three states free.

Brad

On 2/2/2016 11:45 AM, Walker, Michael E wrote:

Hi,

 

What have you found to be the most accessible program for filing income taxes with JAWS?

 

Thank you,

Mike



Re: Making headway with Kodi.

Charles Coe
 

Here this may answer your question.

 

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www.winsite.com/text/text+to+speech+agent+cody/index2.html

o    Cached

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:51 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Making headway with Kodi.

 

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:44 am, Juan Hernandez <juanhernandez98@...> wrote:

Apologies, but what is Kodi?

 Juan,

          Here's the About blurb from the Kodi website:  

About Kodi
Kodi is a free and open source media player application developed by the XBMC Foundation, a non-profit technology consortium. Kodi is available for multiple operating-systems and hardware platforms, featuring a 10-foot user interface for use with televisions and remote controls. It allows users to play and view most videos, music, podcasts, and other digital media files from local and network storage media and the internet.

 

Their full "About" page goes into much greater detail.

 

Brian