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Re: Favorites in windows10?

Charles Coe
 

Hi,

Yes you press the windows key but you will need to hear "Search" before you
type what you are lookking for.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Favorites in windows10?

One of the nice things about Windows 10 is the search feature. If you want
to get somewhere and don't know the path, press the windows key and type in
what you want. I will haven't found a good path to favorites, but when I
want to open it I type "favorites" into the edit box and windows says
'favorites, folder' and there it is.




At 06:28 AM 1/31/2016, you wrote:
Listers,
I am verry new to windows10, how do I get to my favorites? I would
greatly appreciate the help.


Carliss


Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

Charles Coe
 

Like I wrote earlier  press the F1 function key.  

 

From: Walt Smith [mailto:ka3lists@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

 

If you open the Start Menu JAWS item and then open Explore JAWS, you can select Explore Manuals and there's a document named Keystrokes that's available in both .doc and .txt format. This is as close as you're going to get.

 


From: Nermin [mailto:voy44@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

Hi Brian,

 

so what you were actually hoping for is a quick reference sheet of sorts. As far as I know, no such thing exists. You would need to filter out the commands that interest you during a given training session and build a glossary of sorts yourself.

 

Regards,

Nermin

 


Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

 

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 09:03 am, Walt Smith <ka3lists@...> wrote:
document named Keystrokes

 Walt,

I have to believe that this is the same Keystrokes document you can download from the FS site under the "Support->Documentation" dropdown then choosing the "JAWS® Screen Reading Software" link.  It's available in HTML, PDF, and plain text formats.  Which brings me back to where I started.

I will, however, check this out in case, by some miracle, what gets exported is not precisely the same as what is available for download.

Brian


Re: Jaws 17 issues with edit fields in Internet Explorer 11

Walt Smith
 

Have all of you who are having this problem actually reported it to FS as an
issue in JAWS 17? Also, this is why I always keep at least one older version
of JAWS on my computer any time I install a newer one: this way, I can exit
the latest version and bring up the older one if I encounter a problem that
wasn't present in the earlier version.

-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Solowoniuk [mailto:rsolowoniuk@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 9:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 17 issues with edit fields in Internet Explorer 11

Yes, I've had many issues with Facebook as well. I'm surprised at all the
problems I'm having with edit fields elsewhere though! It seems like FS
continues to add new features that no one really wants, when they should be
concentrating on making daily tasks, like typing and editing text in web
browser edit fields work as they ought to. I don't know about anyone else on
this list, but, after a couple of days playing around with the "smart
navigation" feature, I went into settings centre and turned it off. I find
it quite a nuisance. Others may like it, and that's fine, but I'd sooner FS
make edit fields workable again.

Thanks for your feedback Carolyn.

Russell


Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

Walt Smith
 

If you open the Start Menu JAWS item and then open Explore JAWS, you can select Explore Manuals and there's a document named Keystrokes that's available in both .doc and .txt format. This is as close as you're going to get.



From: Nermin [mailto:voy44@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

Hi Brian,
 
so what you were actually hoping for is a quick reference sheet of sorts. As far as I know, no such thing exists. You would need to filter out the commands that interest you during a given training session and build a glossary of sorts yourself.
 
Regards,
Nermin
 


Re: How Can Sighted People Tell Where I Am At on a Screen in JAWS?

 

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 08:43 am, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Please do report back to us all here when you get an answer from FS about this.

 I absolutely will.  The following is the e-mail message I sent to FS Tech Support yesterday.  The title I allude to is the title of this very thread.  If when they respond, and they always have, I'll post the response here, too.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello,
 
         A topic by this title has just come up on the JAWS for Windows mailing list, and it is a question I have had myself as a sighted JAWS tutor for a very long time now.  I have finally wrapped my head around the JAWS virtual cursor and that both webpages and PDF files are reformatted in JAWS virtual space and traversed in JAWS virtual space and for someone who cannot see this is a complete non issue.  However, sighted assistants and tutors such as myself are often called upon, and even if we do understand the JAWS virtual cursor (and many don't) it is insanity-making for a sighted person trying to assist to even begin to figure out where on the "real web page" JAWS is currently processing in JAWS virtual space.

         Is there any setting one can use in JAWS, whether "on demand" or permanent, that will make JAWS cause the actual web page to scroll as necessary to follow, visually, where the JAWS virtual cursor is in JAWS virtual space that corresponds to that visual location?


Re: Favorites in windows10?

Ann Byrne
 

One of the nice things about Windows 10 is the search feature. If you want to get somewhere and don't know the path, press the windows key and type in what you want. I will haven't found a good path to favorites, but when I want to open it I type "favorites" into the edit box and windows says 'favorites, folder' and there it is.

At 06:28 AM 1/31/2016, you wrote:
Listers,
I am verry new to windows10, how do I get to my favorites? I would greatly appreciate the help.


Carliss


Re: Favorites in windows10?

 

Carliss,

           Are you talking about Favorites in Internet Explorer or what used to be called Favorites in Windows Explorer (which is File Explorer in Win8 and later)?

           What had been Favorites in File Explorer still exists, but the terminology has changed to "Quick Access" instead of favorites.  This webpage on
How To Add Folders To Favorites in Windows 10 may or may not be helpful, depending on how accessible it is.  It was written in 2014, and at that point in the Windows 10 Previews the term "Favorites" was still being used.  The step-by-step sequence he gives after an opening introduction that begins, "Favoriting a folder in Windows 10 is extremely easy," is still technically correct with the exception of what had been the Favorites button is now the "Pin to Quick Access" button.  Quick access folders and files are also presented automatically at the top of the tree view in File Explorer, and files you frequently use will end up showing up at the end of the Quick Access area but will migrate in and out depending on if you continue to use a given file frequently or start accessing something else more frequently that supplants it.  Pinned things remain in Quick Access, just like they did in Favorites.  By the way, if his step by step instructions are accessible, you do not have to expand the ribbon, you can simply hit ALT+H to get focus on the Home ribbon, followed by PI to pin the folder you've got selected to Quick Access.  If the webpage is not accessible I'll be happy to copy/paste a plain text version.

Brian


Re: How Can Sighted People Tell Where I Am At on a Screen in JAWS?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hey Brian!

 

Please do report back to us all here when you get an answer from FS about this.  Apparently, many others suffer from this besides me; which makes me feel better knowing that I am not the only one ; )

 

Best,

Richard

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 8:00 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How Can Sighted People Tell Where I Am At on a Screen in JAWS?

 

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 07:42 am, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:

Sadly, I have that feature set to on, and yet hubby doesn't know where I am on web pages.

 Hmmm.  My fingers are itching to write FS Tech Support, and I'll do that in a couple of minutes.  It's only because I wrote them asking about how to move through the ribbon groups via some method other than hitting TAB until you're fingers are exhausted that I learned the following, "You can move between the categories by performing the control+left or right arrow command."  Those commands are not JAWS based, but Windows based, but I haven't known of anyone who knew them.  It makes moving from group to group in the ribbon much faster when you know that a given item you're hunting for either is, or is likely to be, in a given group.

Now I'll ask them if there's a way to set JAWS such that it visually follows what it's presenting via speech.

Brian


Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

 

Nermin,

           What I'm looking for is actually the very opposite of a quick reference sheet.  The Keystrokes document that FS puts out with every release, the core of which has remained unchanged for ages (which is unsurprising), is sort of an extended quick reference guide.  I use that extensively.  But there have been multiple mentions on this list of commands I have never seen documented anywhere, and a couple of those have come from me.  For instance, the SHIFT+F6 command that's allowing movement between "control regions" for lack of a better way of phrasing it in Chrome is not documented in the JAWS 17 Keystrokes document.  Of course, since this is doing pretty much the same thing in Firefox, too, it looks like it's a Windows-based command.  But the INS+CTRL+NumPad Plus command Maria mentioned is clearly a JAWS command just based on the key sequence, but I can't find that documented anywhere, either.  I'd just like to know what FS would describe as the function of that aforementioned keystroke combo, among others at times.

Brian


Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

Charles Coe
 

Have you tried using the F1 key in the applications you are working in?

 

!

 

From: Nermin [mailto:voy44@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 7:49 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

 

Hi Brian,

 

I forgot to add that some of the commands may be obsolete, since there is reference to quite a number of outdated pieces of software.

What you can always try when in a programme is pressing insert+h, which will give you a list of commands pertaining to a given application, if there are scripts tied to it.

Another way of getting help on commands is to press Insert+1 in an application, which will activate keyboard help mode.

From that point on, the keys you press will not be passed to the application. Instead, JAWS will verbalise a function name if any has been associated with a script. Pressing a key combination twice quickly will cause a longer description of a function to be verbalised.

The same info can be gotten from script manager as well, but that is a little cumbersome and maybe not what you need.

 

Regards,

Nermin


Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

Nermin
 

Hi Brian,
 
so what you were actually hoping for is a quick reference sheet of sorts. As far as I know, no such thing exists. You would need to filter out the commands that interest you during a given training session and build a glossary of sorts yourself.
 
Regards,
Nermin


Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

Nermin
 

Hi Brian,
 
I forgot to add that some of the commands may be obsolete, since there is reference to quite a number of outdated pieces of software.
What you can always try when in a programme is pressing insert+h, which will give you a list of commands pertaining to a given application, if there are scripts tied to it.
Another way of getting help on commands is to press Insert+1 in an application, which will activate keyboard help mode.
From that point on, the keys you press will not be passed to the application. Instead, JAWS will verbalise a function name if any has been associated with a script. Pressing a key combination twice quickly will cause a longer description of a function to be verbalised.
The same info can be gotten from script manager as well, but that is a little cumbersome and maybe not what you need.
 
Regards,
Nermin


Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

 

Nermin,

           Thanks, I'll give this a look.  But what I was hoping for is an actual reference document that one could either print or carry around in electronic format of some sort.  It's handy to have this sort of thing when "plotting strategy" for some things that seldom need to happen.

           That layout is exactly parallel to the keystrokes documents, but perhaps the "live content" is more extensive.  That could be helpful in the moment, but not so much when I'm not in front of a computer running JAWS.

Brian


Re: Is there a comprehensive/exhaustive list of JAWS keyboard shortcuts?

Nermin
 

Hi Brian,
 
there is a whole help chapter divided into various subchapters by functions and areas of use. Just go to “JAWS Help\JAWS shortcuts”. It’s part of the help menu.
Topics include:
1. JAWS shortcuts
2. Laptop Commands
3. Standard Windows Commands
etc.
 
Regards,
Nermin
 


Favorites in windows10?

Carliss
 

Listers,

I am verry new to windows10, how do I get to my favorites? I would greatly appreciate the help.

 

 

Carliss


Re: A question about Jaws and Backblaze

Angel
 


Also, another question concerning the interaction of Backblaze with Jaws.  In a couple of weeks, I shall have my C drive repartitioned.  Eliminating my drives E and F.  Will Jaws be able to recognize the difference, and the reassignment of the external and internal drives on the computer?

----- Original Message -----
From: Angel
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 7:53 PM
Subject: A question about Jaws and Backblaze

I somehow got my external drive letters confused.  The drive letter J I was backing up, became confused with the letter I which I was not backing up.  I was trying to exchange the drive letters to what they were when backblaze began its original back up, but to no avail.  Jaws didn't seem to recognize the new drive letter among those I was to check in the settings menu of backblaze.  My sighted daughter, however,  told me the new drive letter assignment was among the drives in that menu.  She unchecked the now non existent drive letter with that which was shown among  the menu choices.  If such confusion occurs again, how will I be able to read with Jaws the newly assigned drive letter.  Was the problem a lack of knowledge concerning the different cursers, and their relationship with the backblaze program?  Or Does Jaws not read newly assigned drive letters.  If I should want to back up additional drives with different letters assigned them, I should like jaws to recognize them.  Is this a problem found only in the initial backing up process?   Is it likely to disappear after the initial backups are backed up?


Re: Plugins In Chrome, How To access Through The Settings Option In The Menu List

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Brian,
 
Yes, I know, but just giving an alternative option for inquiring minds.
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Plugins In Chrome, How To access Through The Settings Option In The Menu List

Mike,

        Just so you know, entering "about:plugins" in the address bar shoots you directly to where you get in your Step 5 after activating the "Manage Individual Plugins" link.  It's a lot less work.

Brian


Re: Plugins In Chrome, How To access Through The Settings Option In The Menu List

 

Mike,

        Just so you know, entering "about:plugins" in the address bar shoots you directly to where you get in your Step 5 after activating the "Manage Individual Plugins" link.  It's a lot less work.

Brian


Re: Moving around in Google Chrome (using NVDA, but hoping JAWS is same)

 

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 07:08 pm, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
You can quit while you're ahead!  You cannot use the Jaws cursor in Chrome.

I long ago learned that there's a very good reason that many of my clients have multiple screen readers on their computers.  One tends to be favored, but all report things of this nature where they shift to an alternate for specific websites, programs, etc.

Brian