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Re: How to have PDF files read in the Acrobat window and not Chrome

 

Adrian,

         If you're using something earlier than Adobe Reader DC, try opening the preferences for Adobe Reader and going to the "Internet" preferences.  There used to be a checkbox there labeled, "Display PDF in Browser," which was checked by default and needs to be unchecked.

         Since doing the same thing I recommended earlier Chrome is now attempting to download and save any PDF link I click rather than opening it in my chosen PDF viewer.  Based on what I'm finding out there this has been a recurring problem, but at least it gives you the option to save the file and then open it with your PDF Reader of choice.

          What version of Windows are you on and what Adobe Reader are you using.  It's become more than a bit complicated to disentangle browser, Windows, and Adobe tweaks necessary over time, much to everyone's chagrin.

Brian


Re: microsoft excell

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That’s for sure; you should see our time sheet!

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 4:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: microsoft excell

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 01:06 pm, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

I was thinking he could play around with templates.

 Oh, definitely.  You can certainly create your own Excel files using the built-in templates as the guide.

I just offered the billing sheet I have to use because it uses the sum formula for a number of columns and includes several cells with calculated values based upon the content of another cell in the spreadsheet.

I'm also fairly certain that this billing sheet is going to be absolutely horrible from an accessibility standpoint, and it can serve as the cautionary tale about how not to create a spreadsheet that is accessible and in making modifications to actually make it accessible.  You're almost certain to get stuck with a number of spreadsheets that were created without the vaguest thought about accessibility.

Brian


Re: How to have PDF files read in the Acrobat window and not Chrome

Adrian Spratt
 

Thanks. I followed these steps and now Chrome doesn’t open PDF files. Unfortunately, nothing opens when I click on a link to a PDF file while I’m in Chrome. After pressing enter on the link failed, I pressed the applications key and arrowed through the choices available, but none was to open.

 

Did you client experience this? Either way, any ideas?

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:12 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to have PDF files read in the Acrobat window and not Chrome

 

To disable the PDF reader plugin in Chrome, and have Adobe Reader triggered instead, do the following:

  1. In the address bar, enter, about:plugins
  2. Search the plugins page for Chrome PDF Viewer
  3. There is a Disable link immediately after that line if the in-browser PDF Viewer is enabled (and an Enable link if disabled), click it.
  4. PDF files should now be opened by Adobe Reader or whatever application you have set as your default PDF Reader.

Brian


Re: Rumola Usage

HAMILTON
 

Thanks for the instructions for obtaining Rumola for IE 11. With a friend's help, I will follow these steps, and report back. Thanks again. Jim H


Re: How to have PDF files read in the Acrobat window and not Chrome

 
Edited

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 07:24 am, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@...> wrote:
Do these moves  work in Internet Explorer as well?

 No.  Undoing the Plug-In for IE is a major production number.  I just had to do this for another client last month.  What follows are the step-by-step instructions sent by Freedom Scientific Technical Support.  The steps described for Adobe Reader XI also apply for Adobe Reader DC.  I just confirmed that the steps do exactly the same thing in Adobe Reader DC on my machine.

Brian

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It is recommended to set the Adobe Reader Plug-In not to open in the browser for better functionality. If this setting is set, the user can then alt+tab back to the browser window. The instructions below can be used to make settings changes:


NOTE: The option to view PDF documents in the browser is no longer found in the Preferences. You must use the Set Up Assistant to find this.

 

A. Using the Accessibility Set Up Assistant

When you launch a PDF the first time, the accessibility set up assistant opens. If the accessibility wizard has already run, do the following to open it:

1. Press ALT+E to open the Edit menu.

2. Press Y to select Accessibility submenu.

3. Press ENTER on Set Up Assistant. The first page of this five page dialog box opens. The default choice is fine, press ENTER to move to the next page.

4. On the second page you can change things if you wish, but by default it is OK. Press ENTER to move to page three.

5. On the third page you can change things if you wish, but by default it is OK. Press ENTER to move to page four.

6. On the fourth page, if you want to use the list of links, list of headings, and the JAWS find command so on to access long documents, change the radio button from

"For large documents, only read the currently visible pages"

to

"Read the entire document at once."

If you do not make this change, in long documents JAWS only sees the links and headings on the current page. Additionally, JAWS can only search the current page with the JAWS find command. If you do select read the entire document at once, it may take a few seconds longer to process large documents, but it is worth it to be able to see the links and  headings in the entire document, or to search the entire document with the JAWS find.

7. Press ENTER to move to page five of the Set Up Assistant.

8. If the check box for Reopen documents to the last viewed page is checked, you may want to uncheck this. It is a personal preference. TAB through until you reach the check box for "Display PDF documents in the web browser," and uncheck it.

9. Press ENTER to activate the Done button.

 

B. Additional changes in Adobe Reader XI preferences.

1. Press CTRL+K to open the Adobe Reader XI preferences.

2. In the Categories list on the left side of the dialog box, choose Accessibility.

3. Press TAB to move to the item, Show Portfolios in Files mode (not checked by default) - check this.

4. Press TAB to move back to the Categories list and choose Security (Enhanced).

5. Press TAB to move to Enable Protected Mode at startup (checked by default) - uncheck this.

6. Press TAB to move to the OK button, and activate it with the SPACEBAR.

 



Re: How to have PDF files read in the Acrobat window and not Chrome

mike mcglashon
 

Do these moves  work in Internet Explorer as well?
I have Windows 7 with Josh 14 or 15 I'm not sure which


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On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:12 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

To disable the PDF reader plugin in Chrome, and have Adobe Reader triggered instead, do the following:

  1. In the address bar, enter, about:plugins
  2. Search the plugins page for Chrome PDF Viewer
  3. There is a Disable link immediately after that line if the in-browser PDF Viewer is enabled (and an Enable link if disabled), click it.
  4. PDF files should now be opened by Adobe Reader or whatever application you have set as your default PDF Reader.

Brian


Re: How to have PDF files read in the Acrobat window and not Chrome

 

To disable the PDF reader plugin in Chrome, and have Adobe Reader triggered instead, do the following:

  1. In the address bar, enter, about:plugins
  2. Search the plugins page for Chrome PDF Viewer
  3. There is a Disable link immediately after that line if the in-browser PDF Viewer is enabled (and an Enable link if disabled), click it.
  4. PDF files should now be opened by Adobe Reader or whatever application you have set as your default PDF Reader.

Brian


Re: Jaws with windows10.

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Cindy, certainly FS will be able to inform Carlos if he has a free upgrade
to 17 coming. 17 is preferable, however, 16 with the latest update will
certainly work. I think Accessibility gave him inaccurate information.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:49 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.

But if you just bought JAWS, don't you get an upgrade, especially if it has
been somewhat recently.

Cindy





From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.



I went through the same thought process, but I think Carlos would also
needed to have bought an SMA, which it sounds like he didn't. I'd prefer to
be wrong on this one.



From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.



If you just bought JAWS, aren't you eligible for an upgrade to JAWS 17?

Cindy





From: Carliss [mailto:seejesus@satx.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:53 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Jaws with windows10.



Hello Listers,

I really need to know this information.

I was told to day by Microsoft accessibility department, that I can't use
Jaws16 with windows10 that has the 2015 patches fix, Is this true? I just
installed windows10 with the accesibility department, and paying $363 for
Jaws16. I don't really want to pay more money for another version of Jaws at
this time.

So, will someone, anyone, tell me what is the real deal with these two
versions of Jaws and windows10 I would greatly appreciate that information.

I also read some where on line, that some good changes has been made in the
2015 patches?

Thanks to all for your help.



Carliss


Re: fixing sert error

Adrian Spratt
 

Ted,

 

It turned out APH is still maintaining the website, even though I think I correctly recall an announcement that “Cool Blind Tech” is producing no more new material.

 

From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:41 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: fixing sert error

 

I’d be sorry to hear that.  I was rather hoping to get a new version of their clock.  The old one can run fine under 7, but must be loaded by hand.

 

Ted

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: fixing sert error

 

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 06:09 pm, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I'm pretty sure this website was discontinued.

The latest entry on the main site page is from January 12, 2016, and the one preceding that is from January 4, 2016.  There's tons of activity from the last year up through and including December.

Make of that what you will.

Brian


Re: fixing sert error

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I’d be sorry to hear that.  I was rather hoping to get a new version of their clock.  The old one can run fine under 7, but must be loaded by hand.

 

Ted

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: fixing sert error

 

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 06:09 pm, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I'm pretty sure this website was discontinued.

The latest entry on the main site page is from January 12, 2016, and the one preceding that is from January 4, 2016.  There's tons of activity from the last year up through and including December.

Make of that what you will.

Brian


How to have PDF files read in the Acrobat window and not Chrome

Adrian Spratt
 

Gerald posted excellent instructions on how to have PDF files read by Adobe Acrobat Reader instead of a browser. These instructions work for IE. However, I’ve just found the Adobe setting does not stop Chrome from taking over. Does anyone have a suggestion?

 

Here’s what Gerald posted:

 

In Adobe Reader, go to the Edit menu and scroll  all the way down to the Accessibility submenu and select Set-up Assistant.  On page 5 of 5, the last page, of the Set-up Assistant is a check box  labeled “DisplayPDF documents in the web browser” which should be unchecked  so that the web page is processed directly by Adobe Reader outside of the  browser and not by the browser's PDF reader add-on, which does not always  work, especially in Windows 7 and later.


Re: Usenet.

Charles Krugman
 

I did research it on Google and found several options for various providers some with free trials and a site that rated the various providers. There is also a comprehensive article about on Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet. hope this clears up some of the mystery.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:03 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Usenet.

funny you mentioned this. I recently heard that it was renamed to
something like use core .net or some variation like that. maybe you can
google it or look it up at microsoft's site.
hth

On 1/23/2016 1:47 AM, Charles Krugman wrote:
I haven’t heard about usenet in several years. When I did I understood
that people had to pay to access it through a provider. I too would be
interested in finding out its current status.
Chuck
*From:* Shane clark <mailto:hshaneclark@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 12:25 AM
*To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Usenet.

Hello everyone,
First of all, my apologies to the list because this may be off topic,
but I couldn't find a way to sign up for this group, and wasn't sure if
it even existed anymore.
I am interested in learning about Usenet, and had a few questions on how
to get started with it, and didn't know if any of yall used it or not,
so I figured I'd reach out. I would be using my phone to download
content, and the content I'm wanting to download is movies, music, etc.
I did some reading on Google, but figured maybe talking with someone
hands-on would be better for me to grasp how to begin learning.
If you wanna get with me off list, that's totally fine. You can reach me
at hshaneclark@gmail.com <mailto:hshaneclark@gmail.com>.
Thanks in advance for any and all assistance, Shane.


Re: Jaws with windows10.

Adrian Spratt
 

Agreed. The problem is that MS Accessibility is telling Carlos differently. My own experience of MS Accessibility leads me to be skeptical of what they say. I'm sure they can handle some problems, but it seems that once a user's experience goes outside the script, their advice needs to be questioned. Carlos might want to call back and see if a different MS Accessibility staffer confirms FS's assurances that the latest releases of JAWS 16 work with Windows 10. He can cite your experience as evidence that FS is right.

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Kriegler [mailto:kriegler@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:49 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.

But if he has a valid copy of Jaws 16, then any updates during that cycle
are included. So if he's current with Jaws 16, he'll be fine.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.

I went through the same thought process, but I think Carlos would also
needed to have bought an SMA, which it sounds like he didn't. I'd prefer to
be wrong on this one.



From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.



If you just bought JAWS, aren't you eligible for an upgrade to JAWS 17?

Cindy





From: Carliss [mailto:seejesus@satx.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:53 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Jaws with windows10.



Hello Listers,

I really need to know this information.

I was told to day by Microsoft accessibility department, that I can't use
Jaws16 with windows10 that has the 2015 patches fix, Is this true? I just
installed windows10 with the accesibility department, and paying $363 for
Jaws16. I don't really want to pay more money for another version of Jaws at
this time.

So, will someone, anyone, tell me what is the real deal with these two
versions of Jaws and windows10 I would greatly appreciate that information.

I also read some where on line, that some good changes has been made in the
2015 patches?

Thanks to all for your help.



Carliss


Re: Jaws with windows10.

Cindy Ray <cindyray@...>
 

But if you just bought JAWS, don’t you get an upgrade, especially if it has been somewhat recently.

Cindy

 

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.

 

I went through the same thought process, but I think Carlos would also needed to have bought an SMA, which it sounds like he didn’t. I’d prefer to be wrong on this one.

 

From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.

 

If you just bought JAWS, aren’t you eligible for an upgrade to JAWS 17?

Cindy

 

 

From: Carliss [mailto:seejesus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:53 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws with windows10.

 

Hello Listers,

I really need to know this information.

I was told to day by Microsoft accessibility department, that I can't use Jaws16 with windows10 that has the 2015 patches fix, Is this true? I just installed windows10 with the accesibility department, and paying $363 for Jaws16. I don't really want to pay more money for another version of Jaws at this time.

So, will someone, anyone, tell me what is the real deal with these two versions of Jaws and windows10 I would greatly appreciate that information.

I also read some where on line, that some good changes has been made in the 2015 patches?

Thanks to all for your help.

 

Carliss


Re: Jaws with windows10.

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

But if he has a valid copy of Jaws 16, then any updates during that cycle
are included. So if he's current with Jaws 16, he'll be fine.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.

I went through the same thought process, but I think Carlos would also
needed to have bought an SMA, which it sounds like he didn't. I'd prefer to
be wrong on this one.



From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.



If you just bought JAWS, aren't you eligible for an upgrade to JAWS 17?

Cindy





From: Carliss [mailto:seejesus@satx.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:53 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Jaws with windows10.



Hello Listers,

I really need to know this information.

I was told to day by Microsoft accessibility department, that I can't use
Jaws16 with windows10 that has the 2015 patches fix, Is this true? I just
installed windows10 with the accesibility department, and paying $363 for
Jaws16. I don't really want to pay more money for another version of Jaws at
this time.

So, will someone, anyone, tell me what is the real deal with these two
versions of Jaws and windows10 I would greatly appreciate that information.

I also read some where on line, that some good changes has been made in the
2015 patches?

Thanks to all for your help.



Carliss


Re: Jaws with windows10.

Adrian Spratt
 

I went through the same thought process, but I think Carlos would also needed to have bought an SMA, which it sounds like he didn’t. I’d prefer to be wrong on this one.

 

From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with windows10.

 

If you just bought JAWS, aren’t you eligible for an upgrade to JAWS 17?

Cindy

 

 

From: Carliss [mailto:seejesus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:53 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws with windows10.

 

Hello Listers,

I really need to know this information.

I was told to day by Microsoft accessibility department, that I can't use Jaws16 with windows10 that has the 2015 patches fix, Is this true? I just installed windows10 with the accesibility department, and paying $363 for Jaws16. I don't really want to pay more money for another version of Jaws at this time.

So, will someone, anyone, tell me what is the real deal with these two versions of Jaws and windows10 I would greatly appreciate that information.

I also read some where on line, that some good changes has been made in the 2015 patches?

Thanks to all for your help.

 

Carliss


Re: Jaws with windows10.

Cindy Ray <cindyray@...>
 

If you just bought JAWS, aren’t you eligible for an upgrade to JAWS 17?

Cindy

 

 

From: Carliss [mailto:seejesus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:53 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws with windows10.

 

Hello Listers,

I really need to know this information.

I was told to day by Microsoft accessibility department, that I can't use Jaws16 with windows10 that has the 2015 patches fix, Is this true? I just installed windows10 with the accesibility department, and paying $363 for Jaws16. I don't really want to pay more money for another version of Jaws at this time.

So, will someone, anyone, tell me what is the real deal with these two versions of Jaws and windows10 I would greatly appreciate that information.

I also read some where on line, that some good changes has been made in the 2015 patches?

Thanks to all for your help.

 

Carliss


Re: Jaws with windows10.

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

I don't know anything about the 2015 patches, but you can certainly run
Windows 10 with the latest release of Jaws 16. I've been using Windows 10
with Jaws 16 ever since I downloaded and installed Windows 10 last October.
I always keep Jaws current, meaning I install all Jaws updates regardless of
the version of Jaws being used.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Carliss [mailto:seejesus@satx.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:53 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws with windows10.

Hello Listers,

I really need to know this information.

I was told to day by Microsoft accessibility department, that I can't use
Jaws16 with windows10 that has the 2015 patches fix, Is this true? I just
installed windows10 with the accesibility department, and paying $363 for
Jaws16. I don't really want to pay more money for another version of Jaws at
this time.

So, will someone, anyone, tell me what is the real deal with these two
versions of Jaws and windows10 I would greatly appreciate that information.

I also read some where on line, that some good changes has been made in the
2015 patches?

Thanks to all for your help.



Carliss


Jaws with windows10.

Carliss
 

Hello Listers,

I really need to know this information.

I was told to day by Microsoft accessibility department, that I can't use Jaws16 with windows10 that has the 2015 patches fix, Is this true? I just installed windows10 with the accesibility department, and paying $363 for Jaws16. I don't really want to pay more money for another version of Jaws at this time.

So, will someone, anyone, tell me what is the real deal with these two versions of Jaws and windows10 I would greatly appreciate that information.

I also read some where on line, that some good changes has been made in the 2015 patches?

Thanks to all for your help.

 

Carliss


Re: "Get Windows 10" is back!

Adrian Spratt
 

I’m perplexed because I continue to be spared the Win10 notification. Fingers crossed.

 

From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 10:08 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: "Get Windows 10" is back!

 

Brad:

 

I asked, and she told me that she hid the KB3035583 update, but it obviously didn’t work.

 

Or, at least, that’s my theory.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler

 

From: Brad Martin [mailto:brad@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: "Get Windows 10" is back!

 

My guess is that the Microsoft Accessibility person (who does work for Microsoft after all) didn't hide KB3035583 so it downloaded again today. You have to hide it from the list of updates, then you have to tell Windows Update you don't want recommended updates the same way as important updates, and then you have to pray.

Amen.

Brad

On 1/27/2016 8:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

Well, it looks like the hour that the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline technician spent the other day trying to remove the “get windows 10” popup removed from my computer was ultimately unsuccessful.

 

The thing is back!

 

Looks like it’s time once again to call the Hotline, and have them try again!

 

I find this to be absolutely ridiculous!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan