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Re: buying Microsoft Office first time

Robert Logue
 

Thanks Brian. 
I would like to have a local version of MS Office. 

I did try your suggestions a while ago of LibreOffice
and OpenOffice. I didn't find them satisfactory with Jaws.  Difficult to learn when there are no Jaws users using those products near by.  I want to use MS Office for good local support.

I'm shocked how much Office Home and Office 2013 costs in Canada.  Did I get that name right?  The version with Outlook.


Bob

On 1/25/2016 4:39 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Bob,

            The first version of MS-Office with the Ribbon is Office 2007, which gives you an idea of how long ago the ribbon became the default.  Even if you were able to secure a copy Office 2003 I would strongly suggest you don't.  Official support for Office 2003 ended in 2014, and no one, including Freedom Scientific, is doing their ongoing development on top of non-supported versions of Office.  I'd suggest Office 2010, which has extended support through 2020, or Office 2013, which has extended support through 2023.

             I prefer a version of Office that's fully installed locally on the machine, and I think that Office 2013 was the last version that worked entirely locally.  Office 365 has a lot of web-based features and I think Office 2016 does, too, though I can't speak to that in detail.

             You may want to consider either LibreOffice or OpenOffice, as opposed to Microsoft Office, if cost is a factor and/or you just want to get a sense of what a full office suite is like.  Freedom Scientific should be able to tell you whether there is any JAWS support for either LibreOffice or OpenOffice, but those are the two biggest competitors to Microsoft Office and both are open-source projects that have been around for quite a while and that have large user bases.  Both of these suites can open files generated by MS-Office.

Brian



Re: buying Microsoft Office first time

 

Bob,

            The first version of MS-Office with the Ribbon is Office 2007, which gives you an idea of how long ago the ribbon became the default.  Even if you were able to secure a copy Office 2003 I would strongly suggest you don't.  Official support for Office 2003 ended in 2014, and no one, including Freedom Scientific, is doing their ongoing development on top of non-supported versions of Office.  I'd suggest Office 2010, which has extended support through 2020, or Office 2013, which has extended support through 2023.

             I prefer a version of Office that's fully installed locally on the machine, and I think that Office 2013 was the last version that worked entirely locally.  Office 365 has a lot of web-based features and I think Office 2016 does, too, though I can't speak to that in detail.

             You may want to consider either LibreOffice or OpenOffice, as opposed to Microsoft Office, if cost is a factor and/or you just want to get a sense of what a full office suite is like.  Freedom Scientific should be able to tell you whether there is any JAWS support for either LibreOffice or OpenOffice, but those are the two biggest competitors to Microsoft Office and both are open-source projects that have been around for quite a while and that have large user bases.  Both of these suites can open files generated by MS-Office.

Brian


buying Microsoft Office first time

Robert Logue
 

I've never owned MS Office. I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 64. I don't like the ribbons in Word pad.
My questions are.
1: Which version of Office with Outlook works best today with Jaws 16 or 17?
2. Where can I get a good deal on older versions if they are still best?
3. Are there subsidies for blind people who are not students or employed?
4. Has anyone used Office 360 who can compare it to older versions?

Lots of questions.
I simply feel it is about time I got learning and using office with Outlook.

I don't have any specific goals. Just want to see if I might be better organized using these tools.

Bob


Re: problems with gmail

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

How do you set it to have the "JAWS screen layout setting."

Thanks for all your help.

Barbara


Re: problems with gmail

Soronel Haetir
 

Near the bottom of GMail pages I have the following (note I use the
jaws' screen layout setting rather than the default simple, which
preserves how lines appear on the screen. If you use simple layout
the same text should appear but the pieces will likely be placed on
more than one line)

Gmail view: standard | basic HTML   Learn more

The "Standard" and "Learn More" are both links, the fact that "Basic
HTML" is not a link tells me that is the currently selected choice.

On 1/25/16, Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I think I have switched to the HTML view, however; at the
bottom of the page it says "link" standard view and then the next line
says,
"vertical line HTML view". Does this mean I'm on the HTML view? For some
reason, this is confusing me.



Appreciate your help.



Barbara



--
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soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: problems with gmail

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

                I think I have switched to the HTML view, however; at the bottom of the page it says “link” standard view and then the next line says, “vertical line HTML view”. Does this mean I’m on the HTML view? For some reason, this is confusing me.

 

Appreciate your help.

 

Barbara

 


Re: facebook

David Moore
 

Hi,
I type my messages into an on line spell checker all the time and then paste it into FB. That is not a pain at all. Have a great one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:18 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I know what you mean!

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:51 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I wonder, Melissa, if a message was copied, then pasted into Facebook, if
that would work. Wouldn't that be a pain though? But, then, the way we
have to do so many thing takes twice the time to do half as much.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

There are some features that I can't find on the mobile site that I can
find on the regular site. I mostly use the regular site also, and it is
becoming a pain in the butt. So, I now primarily use my iPhone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Somehow or other, I seem to have as much or more problem on M as on
regular. This could be because I used regular for several years before I
found out about M about six months ago.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Hi,
Are you guys having all of these problems on the mobile page? I use it
constantly and have no problems doing anything. It is:
m.Facebook.com
Have a good one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Darned if that letter thing didn't happen to me again. My husband figured
how to go to the posts and just delete them.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Can anyone give me the link to unsubscribe from Facebook? Thanks, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have had that first letter thing once or twice. I thought I was nuts.
Then I've had a post come up twice too - weird. I think that for us,
Facebook is like driving on ice, maybe in the mountains.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have that problem when I want to post to a group. This started about
two or three weeks ago.

From: Kevin Wollenweber <mailto:dancingweed@optonline.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: facebook


I'm also having difficulties in Facebook. I've commented or written a
post on any given page, checked it before posting and then, when I post
it, all that comes up is the first letter! So upgrading to JAWS 17 does
not solve the problem. Instead, I've had to go back to JAWS 15 and, only
then, am I able to post messages or comments on Facebook without the
embarrassment of only the first letter showing up!



Kevin


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Re: Plantronics Voyager Legend B235-M Bluetooth Headset and JAWS

markzalewski@...
 

Thanks, I’ll review the Plantronics model once we see whether, or how well,  it works with Jaws.

 

Mark Zalewski

Print Services/Assistive Technology

Phone: 414-661-1380

E-Mail Mark Zalewski

 

From: Brent Harding [mailto:brent@...]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 3:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Plantronics Voyager Legend B235-M Bluetooth Headset and JAWS

 

The H800 from Logitech is another one that is decent. It has Bluetooth as well as another wireless mode that hooks up to a tiny USB dongle that probably works better for the computer side. It has a 3-position switch, which is off, Bluetooth, and then computer. I think it is still Bluetooth 2.1, even though I just got a new one for Christmas, and that little dongle is compatible with versions of Windows going back to at least XP, and it doesn't need extra software to get it working.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Mote

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 3:38 PM

Subject: Re: Plantronics Voyager Legend B235-M Bluetooth Headset and JAWS

 

Mark, it has been my experience that a bluetooth headset works best with a computer that has a fast processor.  The faster the processor, the better the results for the bluetooth headset.  I use the Bose OE Sound Link headset.  I think they have released a newer model of these, and from what I hear, they work really well, with both the computer, and a smart device such as an iPhone or iPod.

.

 

 

From: markzalewski@... [mailto:markzalewski@...]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:13 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Plantronics Voyager Legend B235-M Bluetooth Headset and JAWS

 

Was wondering if anyone was using this combination or had a recommendation for a wireless Bluetooth device that works well with JAWS.  We’re on Windows 7 JAWS 16, will soon be upgrading to 17.

 

Mark Zalewski

Print Services/Assistive Technology

Phone: 414-661-1380

E-Mail Mark Zalewski

 



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Re: Attachment Test

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

We got it here.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 7:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Attachment Test

 

Nothing attached.  At least if viewed via the online forum.


Re: facebook

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I know what you mean!

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:51 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I wonder, Melissa, if a message was copied, then pasted into Facebook, if
that would work. Wouldn't that be a pain though? But, then, the way we
have to do so many thing takes twice the time to do half as much.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

There are some features that I can't find on the mobile site that I can
find on the regular site. I mostly use the regular site also, and it is
becoming a pain in the butt. So, I now primarily use my iPhone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Somehow or other, I seem to have as much or more problem on M as on
regular. This could be because I used regular for several years before I
found out about M about six months ago.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Hi,
Are you guys having all of these problems on the mobile page? I use it
constantly and have no problems doing anything. It is:
m.Facebook.com
Have a good one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Darned if that letter thing didn't happen to me again. My husband figured
how to go to the posts and just delete them.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Can anyone give me the link to unsubscribe from Facebook? Thanks, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have had that first letter thing once or twice. I thought I was nuts.
Then I've had a post come up twice too - weird. I think that for us,
Facebook is like driving on ice, maybe in the mountains.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have that problem when I want to post to a group. This started about
two or three weeks ago.

From: Kevin Wollenweber <mailto:dancingweed@optonline.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: facebook


I'm also having difficulties in Facebook. I've commented or written a
post on any given page, checked it before posting and then, when I post
it, all that comes up is the first letter! So upgrading to JAWS 17 does
not solve the problem. Instead, I've had to go back to JAWS 15 and, only
then, am I able to post messages or comments on Facebook without the
embarrassment of only the first letter showing up!



Kevin


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Re: Is there a JAWS key stroke to toggle the script on or off?

Ann Byrne
 

You could unload JAWS and reload it with defaults.

"run jaws17 /default.

You could also rename the scripts instead of uninstalling them--save.script, or, I think semicolon in front of a script will disable it.

At 11:29 AM 1/25/2016, you wrote:
I don't see any keystroke to unload the scripts. so the only way is to uninstall the scripts from the programs and features applett from the control panel.

btw, have you gotten the guides to work? pressing insert+g doesn't get/show me the guides.




On 1/24/2016 5:00 PM, Peter Tesar wrote:
Hello,

I'm testing the Thunderbird Blind script. I also have upgraded
Thunderbird from version 17 to v38, a big jump.

Some strange things are happening. Tasks don't seem to work as I would
expect.

The script is installed and it is on the 30 day trial. I would like to
compare how JAWS handles specific tasks with Thunderbird 38, and without
the script in effect.

I've looked through the web site that describes the many JAWS key
strokes, and there is nothing about toggling the script on or off. Is
there such a JAWS key stroke?

Thanks,

Peter T.


Re: Changing email address

Maria Campbell
 

On 1/25/2016 11:45 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:03 am, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
change my email address?

 Maria,

         Presuming you mean your e-mail address of record for the JFW list, that would be the Profile Page.  It's the first item at the top of the page.

You can define multiple e-mail addresses that correspond to "you" as far as the group is concerned if you use the e-mail aliases option at the bottom of the profile page so that if you send something from any of the listed addresses it would still show up as having originated with you.

Brian

It wasn't easy but I got it.
Phew!


Re: Changing email address

 

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:03 am, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
change my email address?

 Maria,

         Presuming you mean your e-mail address of record for the JFW list, that would be the Profile Page.  It's the first item at the top of the page.

You can define multiple e-mail addresses that correspond to "you" as far as the group is concerned if you use the e-mail aliases option at the bottom of the profile page so that if you send something from any of the listed addresses it would still show up as having originated with you.

Brian


Re: Changing email address

Dave...
 

Maria,

Are you trying to change it for this list, or change it with your ISP?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Maria Campbell" <lucky1@ct.metrocast.net>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 09:02 AM
Subject: Changing email address


Can anyone please give me the information as to where I need to go to
change my email address?

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: Is there a JAWS key stroke to toggle the script on or off?

Mario
 

I don't see any keystroke to unload the scripts. so the only way is to uninstall the scripts from the programs and features applett from the control panel.

btw, have you gotten the guides to work? pressing insert+g doesn't get/show me the guides.

On 1/24/2016 5:00 PM, Peter Tesar wrote:
Hello,

I'm testing the Thunderbird Blind script. I also have upgraded
Thunderbird from version 17 to v38, a big jump.

Some strange things are happening. Tasks don't seem to work as I would
expect.

The script is installed and it is on the 30 day trial. I would like to
compare how JAWS handles specific tasks with Thunderbird 38, and without
the script in effect.

I've looked through the web site that describes the many JAWS key
strokes, and there is nothing about toggling the script on or off. Is
there such a JAWS key stroke?

Thanks,

Peter T.


Changing email address

Maria Campbell
 

Can anyone please give me the information as to where I need to go to change my email address?

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: facebook

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I wonder, Melissa, if a message was copied, then pasted into Facebook, if
that would work. Wouldn't that be a pain though? But, then, the way we
have to do so many thing takes twice the time to do half as much.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

There are some features that I can't find on the mobile site that I can
find on the regular site. I mostly use the regular site also, and it is
becoming a pain in the butt. So, I now primarily use my iPhone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Somehow or other, I seem to have as much or more problem on M as on
regular. This could be because I used regular for several years before I
found out about M about six months ago.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Hi,
Are you guys having all of these problems on the mobile page? I use it
constantly and have no problems doing anything. It is:
m.Facebook.com
Have a good one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Darned if that letter thing didn't happen to me again. My husband figured
how to go to the posts and just delete them.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Can anyone give me the link to unsubscribe from Facebook? Thanks, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have had that first letter thing once or twice. I thought I was nuts.
Then I've had a post come up twice too - weird. I think that for us,
Facebook is like driving on ice, maybe in the mountains.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have that problem when I want to post to a group. This started about
two or three weeks ago.

From: Kevin Wollenweber <mailto:dancingweed@optonline.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: facebook


I'm also having difficulties in Facebook. I've commented or written a
post on any given page, checked it before posting and then, when I post
it, all that comes up is the first letter! So upgrading to JAWS 17 does
not solve the problem. Instead, I've had to go back to JAWS 15 and, only
then, am I able to post messages or comments on Facebook without the
embarrassment of only the first letter showing up!



Kevin


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Re: facebook

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

There are some features that I can't find on the mobile site that I can find on the regular site. I mostly use the regular site also, and it is becoming a pain in the butt. So, I now primarily use my iPhone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Somehow or other, I seem to have as much or more problem on M as on
regular. This could be because I used regular for several years before I
found out about M about six months ago.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Hi,
Are you guys having all of these problems on the mobile page? I use it
constantly and have no problems doing anything. It is:
m.Facebook.com
Have a good one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Darned if that letter thing didn't happen to me again. My husband figured
how to go to the posts and just delete them.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Can anyone give me the link to unsubscribe from Facebook? Thanks, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have had that first letter thing once or twice. I thought I was nuts.
Then I've had a post come up twice too - weird. I think that for us,
Facebook is like driving on ice, maybe in the mountains.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have that problem when I want to post to a group. This started about
two or three weeks ago.

From: Kevin Wollenweber <mailto:dancingweed@optonline.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: facebook


I'm also having difficulties in Facebook. I've commented or written a
post on any given page, checked it before posting and then, when I post
it, all that comes up is the first letter! So upgrading to JAWS 17 does
not solve the problem. Instead, I've had to go back to JAWS 15 and, only
then, am I able to post messages or comments on Facebook without the
embarrassment of only the first letter showing up!



Kevin


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Re: facebook

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Somehow or other, I seem to have as much or more problem on M as on
regular. This could be because I used regular for several years before I
found out about M about six months ago.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Hi,
Are you guys having all of these problems on the mobile page? I use it
constantly and have no problems doing anything. It is:
m.Facebook.com
Have a good one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Darned if that letter thing didn't happen to me again. My husband figured
how to go to the posts and just delete them.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Can anyone give me the link to unsubscribe from Facebook? Thanks, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have had that first letter thing once or twice. I thought I was nuts.
Then I've had a post come up twice too - weird. I think that for us,
Facebook is like driving on ice, maybe in the mountains.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have that problem when I want to post to a group. This started about
two or three weeks ago.

From: Kevin Wollenweber <mailto:dancingweed@optonline.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: facebook


I'm also having difficulties in Facebook. I've commented or written a
post on any given page, checked it before posting and then, when I post
it, all that comes up is the first letter! So upgrading to JAWS 17 does
not solve the problem. Instead, I've had to go back to JAWS 15 and, only
then, am I able to post messages or comments on Facebook without the
embarrassment of only the first letter showing up!



Kevin


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Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

Tom Behler
 

All:

Let's please not charge Adrian with tech malpractice!! (smiling here, of
course)

The instructions provided worked very well.

I think in my case the "get windows 10" notification and associated files
somehow got installed in multiple places on my computer, which is why the
Microsoft Accessibility Hotline assistant had so much trouble getting
everything cleaned out.

Once again, if Adrian's instructions don't work, and you are reluctant to
install the GWX control panel program onto your computer, give the Microsoft
Accessibility Hotline a call. They need to know that this is a major
problem, at least for some of us, and the more calls they get, the better!

At least this is my opinion, based on my experiences over the week-end.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 10:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

Stan,

I'm beginning to feel guilty of tech malpractice, and I haven't earned even
one tech-related certificate! Just keep in mind I don't carry tech
malpractice insurance. But other queries off-list have caused me to clarify
the steps, and I'll copy the updated set below. First, let me clarify why I
opted for this procedure, because, as Brian says, there are different
approaches. Personally, I hesitate to download software solutions unless I'm
certain of the source. If there's a way of solving the problem without
adding more software to my ever-growing software collection, I'll take it.

One point I picked up from another lister is that I hadn't emphasized enough
the need to run the operation as administrator. The additional steps should
clarify that part. As you'll see at the end, I also make reference to Brad's
additional suggestion the other night. I haven't tested it yet, but I'm
keeping it in mind in the event the Win10 notification comes back to haunt
me, too. I can only say that I used to get that notification every few
minutes, but ever since I followed the below steps, I havne't received it
once.

So, here goes:

Windows 10 notification, how to uninstall and hide.

Two parts. First, with modifications, from
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/get-rid-windows-10-upgrade-notification-windows
-7-8/
And then steps a tech friend and I devised.

The Windows Update is called KB3035583.

1. Type
command prompt
in the Win7 search window. Once it is typed, wait a moment or two for the
prompt to settle down.

2. Press the applications key on the Command Prompt icon and down arrow to
"Run as administrator."

3. Run the command prompt window with Win key-r. Press enter.

4. Type or copy:
WUSA /UNINSTALL /KB:3035583

5. Follow the on-screen prompts, and when complete type exit to close
Command Prompt.

To hide Windows Updates from installing it again:

1. Go to Windows Update via Windows search and press enter.

2. Tab to "Change settings" and press enter.

3. Check the third item down, something to the effect of "Do it myself." Tab
to OK.

4. Tab to something like "Critical update available" and press enter.

5. If the file is there, right-click and down arrow to hide. Press enter,
then OK.

6. Tab back to "Change settings." Select "Automatic." Tab to OK.

7. Alt-F4 out of the dialog.

Note. Brad suggests adding the following step when blocking future updates.
You run the risk of the hidden update getting unhidden if automatic updates
run. I have found that turning off the option to "get recommended updates
the same way as important updates" is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Holdeman [mailto:sholdeman@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 9:31 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

I have followed the procedure twice now and the beloved message is right
there looking at me as I write this.

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

I recently uninstalled the Win10 notification and ensured it won't come
back. So far, so good. The steps below explain exactly what I did. the
uninstall instructions come from the indicated website. The instructions for
hiding (which essentially means removing) it from Windows automatic updates
follow. A friend and I worked them out together.

Two parts. First from
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/get-rid-windows-10-upgrade-notification-windows
-7-8/

Uninstalling a Windows Update is surprisingly easy, as long as you know its
name. This update is called KB3035583 so we can use the command line to
delete it with a single command. Begin by opening the Command Prompt with
Administrator privileges (right-click the Command Prompt icon and select Run
as administrator). Run the command prompt window with Win key-r. Type or
copy:
WUSA /UNINSTALL /KB:3035583
Follow the on-screen prompts, and when complete type exit to close Command
Prompt.

To hide Windows Updates from installing it again:
Go to Windows Update via Windows search and press enter.
Tab to "Change settings" and press enter.
Check the third item down, something to the effect of "Do it myself." Tab to
OK.
Tab to something like "Critical update available" and press enter.
If the file is there, right-click and down arrow to hide. Press enter, then
OK.
Tab back to "Change settings." Select "Automatic." Tab to OK.
Alt-F4 out of the dialog.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 10:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

the problem with this is, if your windows update is set to automatic and
recommended updates are checked, the get windows 10 nag will be reinstalled,
regardless if it is hidden. Microsoft is despritly urging users to upgrade,
and they have the means to unhide what has been hidden, even change the
status of an update from optional to recommended or important at will.

so download the gwx control panel program (I recommend the portable version,
not the installer), unzip it, run it, and enter on the option to disable the
get windows 10 app. if you should want to get windows 10, reenabling is
possible. just run the program again and enter on enable the get windows 10
app.


gwx control panel:
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/



On 1/23/2016 9:57 AM, Bill White wrote:
Hello, Tom and all. Here is what someone posted a while back as to how
to get rid of the "Get Windows 10 message".

How To Turn Off Windows10 Update Message In Windows7

Go to the run command and type in:

wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3035583

re-boot the system.
this will uninstall the update and then when the update comes back you
will need to hide the update and not install it.

To Hide the update:

updates need to be set to download but let me install them that way
when they are downloaded you should have a new updates in the task
tray that you can click on and then you tab over to important updates
Press enter on that to bring up the list of downloaded updates. down
arrow through the list till you find the kb:3035583 update. Then
uncheck the update with the Space Bar, and then right mouse click on
it.

you can then tab to the ok button and
press enter on the install button if there's other updates to install.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>
*To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 23, 2016 5:51 AM
*Subject:* How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

Hello, everyone.

Yesterday, I ran malware bytes on my home Windows 7 PC, and ever
since, I receive the "get windows 10" message every few minutes or
so. I can exit out of the message using alt F4, but the message
re-appears again soon thereafter.

How can I get rid of this message?

Personally, I find it not only annoying, but intrusive!

I do plan to upgrade to Windows 10 at some point, and don't need to
be constantly reminded of its availability!

Sorry for the little rant there, but this is really aggravating!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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