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Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Joseph Weakland
 

i know of a really simple softphone called phonerlite from
there is an english link on page and download link
 

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Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Tom,
 
I had some success with iPBlue's version of soft phone. They have a blind-specific modification. This was 4 years ago, so not sure what exists today.
 
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom macha
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 01:26 PM
Subject: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Hello I am checking to see if anyone has experience with, “Softphones” such as Zoiper?” If so what is the best way to get them to run with Jaws 17? Thanks, Tom


Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 


Hi, Brent. If using GoogleVoice, there is a setting under Call Screening which allows the GoogleVoice number to be passed to the phone instead of the calling party's number.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

That could work also. I thought you have to hit 1 to answer the forwarded calls, as they are announced to you upon answering, unless you can turn all of that off. You wouldn't be able to have Google pass the caller's number and have a distinctive ring at the same time though, as far as I know.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 01:44 pm, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
I use GoogleVoice, but I only use it to forward calls to my home phone and cell. I don't call or receive calls from my computer. Using it the way I do, everything is accessible, but I can't speak about using it directly from the PC.

 Bill,

          This is another option I'm considering.  If memory serves, when you forward you can tell Google Voice either to pass along the original caller's number or the Google Voice number for Caller ID purposes.  I could forward the calls to the client's iPhone via her regular mobile number and use a distinctive ring if it's coming from the Google Voice number.  The important thing is that she knows whether she's answering her own native mobile number or is receiving a call from the Google Voice number.

Brian



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Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Brent Harding
 


That could work also. I thought you have to hit 1 to answer the forwarded calls, as they are announced to you upon answering, unless you can turn all of that off. You wouldn't be able to have Google pass the caller's number and have a distinctive ring at the same time though, as far as I know.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 01:44 pm, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
I use GoogleVoice, but I only use it to forward calls to my home phone and cell. I don't call or receive calls from my computer. Using it the way I do, everything is accessible, but I can't speak about using it directly from the PC.

 Bill,

          This is another option I'm considering.  If memory serves, when you forward you can tell Google Voice either to pass along the original caller's number or the Google Voice number for Caller ID purposes.  I could forward the calls to the client's iPhone via her regular mobile number and use a distinctive ring if it's coming from the Google Voice number.  The important thing is that she knows whether she's answering her own native mobile number or is receiving a call from the Google Voice number.

Brian


Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Brent Harding
 


I think you'd probably have to use Chrome or Firefox with it, but since Google Voice doesn't use SIP or anything a common soft phone can get to, it could be hard to get going unless there were some kind of gateway service for doing that. If one wanted one of those boxes to hook an old cheap analog phone to, the Obihai boxes can hook up to Google Voice, as their developers figured out how to do it.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Hi, Brian. I use GoogleVoice, but I only use it to forward calls to my home phone and cell. I don't call or receive calls from my computer. Using it the way I do, everything is accessible, but I can't speak about using it directly from the PC.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 01:26 pm, Tom macha <toml614@...> wrote:
Hello I am checking to see if anyone has experience with, “Softphones” such as Zoiper?”

 Related to this, does anyone have experience with Google Voice and/or Google Hangouts with JAWS.  Freedom Scientific just waved its hand when I inquired about this.  I recently set up a Google Voice number for a client who needs a temporary second phone number during an internship.  However, we've found no way to answer calls using JAWS on the computer.  I believe we'll end up using the Hangouts app for iPhone, but I'd love to have a method to work with regular Hangouts on the PC.

Brian



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Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Brent Harding
 

The two that are probably the easiest to use with JFW are FS Client and Phoner. FS Client seems to be the most accessible because most of the stuff in there is labeled, and there is a good amount of hotkeys for the commonly used stuff. Phoner has more of those graphical buttons, but you can dial from the edit box and hit enter to call, but most of the rest is in the menu. These mostly assume that the server side uses the common SIP protocol, but Phoner has options for CAPI and TAPI as well, but I have never heard of those being useful for much.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

A lot of the so-called "soft phones" have buttons which do not show up using a screen reader. This makes some of their features inaccessible to a screen reader.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom macha
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 1:26 PM
Subject: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Hello I am checking to see if anyone has experience with, “Softphones” such as Zoiper?” If so what is the best way to get them to run with Jaws 17? Thanks, Tom



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Re: facebook

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Darned if that letter thing didn't happen to me again. My husband figured
how to go to the posts and just delete them.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Can anyone give me the link to unsubscribe from Facebook? Thanks, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have had that first letter thing once or twice. I thought I was nuts.
Then I've had a post come up twice too - weird. I think that for us,
Facebook is like driving on ice, maybe in the mountains.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have that problem when I want to post to a group. This started about
two or three weeks ago.

From: Kevin Wollenweber <mailto:dancingweed@optonline.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: facebook


I'm also having difficulties in Facebook. I've commented or written a
post on any given page, checked it before posting and then, when I post
it, all that comes up is the first letter! So upgrading to JAWS 17 does
not solve the problem. Instead, I've had to go back to JAWS 15 and, only
then, am I able to post messages or comments on Facebook without the
embarrassment of only the first letter showing up!



Kevin


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Re: Usenet.

Brent Harding
 


Yes, from what I heard, this was close to the amount the binary files generated in new activity, but I think most places you could even get that only keep it a short time relative to the regular messages.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Usenet.

Brent,

             Traffic on Usenet is at a trickle compared to what it was in the 1980s and 1990s when I was heavily active there.  The worldwide web has supplanted it for the most part.

             I don't think there's anything close to 1TB of new information posted on the text groups, and I don't know of anyone who's archived the binaries groups.  Also, in the grand scheme of things for companies like Google, Amazon, and a number of others, 1TB is far, far, far less than the proverbial drop in a bucket.

Brian


Re: problems with gmail

 

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 03:05 pm, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:
Did you switch to the basic html interface? Other than that I am not
aware of anything that needs to be done to make the gmail site usable.

 That is consistent with what I've observed recently as well.

In case they're needed, here's Google's Help Page for Opening and Using Gmail in Basic HTML View.

Brian


Re: facebook

judith bron
 

Can anyone give me the link to unsubscribe from Facebook? Thanks, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have had that first letter thing once or twice. I thought I was nuts.
Then I've had a post come up twice too - weird. I think that for us,
Facebook is like driving on ice, maybe in the mountains.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I have that problem when I want to post to a group. This started about two
or three weeks ago.

From: Kevin Wollenweber <mailto:dancingweed@optonline.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: facebook


I'm also having difficulties in Facebook. I've commented or written a post
on any given page, checked it before posting and then, when I post it, all
that comes up is the first letter! So upgrading to JAWS 17 does not solve
the problem. Instead, I've had to go back to JAWS 15 and, only then, am I
able to post messages or comments on Facebook without the embarrassment of
only the first letter showing up!



Kevin


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Re: problems with gmail

Soronel Haetir
 

Did you switch to the basic html interface? Other than that I am not
aware of anything that needs to be done to make the gmail site usable.

On 1/23/16, Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,



Hope you are staying warm.



Since I upgraded to windows 10, I am now having difficulty navigating in
gmail. Everything seems different and there seems to be more links to
things
that I really do not need or understand. Example, "social" plus several
more
links that aI can't seem to remember.



I have previously gone through the instructions on the JAWS guides page.
Are
there newer instructions?



Would appreciate any suggestions.



Barbara H.



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problems with gmail

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

Hello everyone,

 

Hope you are staying warm.

 

Since I upgraded to windows 10, I am now having difficulty navigating in gmail. Everything seems different and there seems to be more links to things that I really do not need or understand. Example, “social” plus several more links that aI can’t seem to remember.

 

I have previously gone through the instructions on the JAWS guides page. Are there newer instructions?

 

Would appreciate any suggestions.

 

Barbara H.

 


Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

Maria Campbell
 

I did something with hiding that get w10 kb3035583 update, and so good so far, I haven't been bothered by it.

On 1/23/2016 4:32 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Adrian,

I'm not going to argue with you. You simply haven't been hit
by the latest repackaging of GWX, and it has occurred, in what Microsoft
has deemed to be a critical update. What you propose is not completely
ineffective, by any means, but it does occasionally allow Microsoft to
sneak something through, and many have reported this on multiple
occasions on Bleepingcomputer. Here's the link to the Windows 10
Support Forum
<http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/f/229/windows-10-support/>,
which is where most people who have Win7, Win8, or Win8.1 have turned
for help on this. The number of threads complaining about the
reappearance of GWX through "sneaky means" are legion. Do not be
surprised if you eventually end up with GWX again, and through no direct
fault of your own. Microsoft is being, to put it mildly, aggressive
about getting GWX on, or back on, every machine that they can.

What's interesting to me is the difference in experiences
people are having with GWX. I have it running on a Windows 7 laptop,
Windows 7 desktop, and Windows 8.1 laptop in my household. If we get a
direct pop-up notification on any of these more than once per week
that's a notable exception. Others, such as Tom Behler her and many
others elsewhere report that it's nagging on an almost hourly basis. I
would love to know what triggers the difference in behavior.

Brian

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Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

 
Edited

Adrian,

        I'm not going to argue with you.  You simply haven't been hit by the latest repackaging of GWX, and it has occurred, in what Microsoft has deemed to be a critical update.  What you propose is not completely ineffective, by any means, but it does occasionally allow Microsoft to sneak something through, and many have reported this on multiple occasions on Bleepingcomputer.  Here's the link to the Windows 10 Support Forum, which is where most people who have Win7, Win8, or Win8.1 have turned for help on this.  The number of threads complaining about the reappearance of GWX through "sneaky means" are legion, and a search on "GWX reappear" or "GWX remove" turns up scads of them.  Do not be surprised if you eventually end up with GWX again, and through no direct fault of your own.  Microsoft is being, to put it mildly, aggressive about getting GWX on, or back on, every machine that they can.

        What's interesting to me is the difference in experiences people are having with GWX.  I have it running on a Windows 7 laptop, Windows 7 desktop, and Windows 8.1 laptop in my household.  If we get a direct pop-up notification on any of these more than once per week that's a notable exception.  Others, such as Tom Behler her and many others elsewhere report that it's nagging on an almost hourly basis.  I would love to know what triggers the difference in behavior.

Brian


Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

 

To those considering GWX Control Panel:

The user guide link is: http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-remove.html   [The original name of this program was GWX Stopper]

The portable stand-alone (non-installed) version download link is:  http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GWX_control_panel.exe  

The installed version download link is: http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GwxControlPanelSetup.exe 



Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

Adrian Spratt
 

Brian, did you read my post? It is factual, and it has spared me from getting Win10 notifications ever since I removed the file. I think you’re confusing my post with someone else’s. I’ve come across nowhere else these instructions for how to stop the notification from reinstalling. I wouldn’t care, but I believe the instructions I gave would save others on this list a lot of time and annoyance, so for you to characterize the post as “not factual” is less than unhelpful.

 

For anyone else interested in the method I described, here it is again:

 

I recently uninstalled the Win10 notification and ensured it won't come back. So far, so good. The steps below explain exactly what I did. the uninstall instructions come from the indicated website. The instructions for hiding (which essentially means removing) it from Windows automatic updates follow. A friend and I worked them out together.

 

Two parts. First from

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/get-rid-windows-10-upgrade-notification-windows-7-8/

 

Uninstalling a Windows Update is surprisingly easy, as long as you know its name. This update is called KB3035583 so we can use the command line to delete it with a single command. Begin by opening the Command Prompt with Administrator privileges (right-click the Command Prompt icon and select Run as administrator).

Run the command prompt window with Win key-r. Type or copy:

WUSA /UNINSTALL /KB:3035583

Follow the on-screen prompts, and when complete type exit to close Command Prompt.

 

To hide Windows Updates from installing it again:

Go to Windows Update via Windows search and press enter.

Tab to "Change settings" and press enter.

Check the third item down, something to the effect of "Do it myself." Tab to OK.

Tab to something like "Critical update available" and press enter.

If the file is there, right-click and down arrow to hide. Press enter, then OK.

Tab back to "Change settings." Select "Automatic." Tab to OK.

Alt-F4 out of the dialog.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 4:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

 

Adrian,

           I suggest you haunt the geek forums such as Bleepingcomputer or GeeksToGo and then make your assertion again.  It is not factual, and many people have posted on those forums complaining about the re-emergence of GWX after having used the technique you recommend.

           I suggest GWX Control Panel because, so far, it's been the only thing that has been being adequately updated to keep catching the latest updates that repackage GWX with them.

 

Brian


Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

 

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 01:44 pm, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
I use GoogleVoice, but I only use it to forward calls to my home phone and cell. I don't call or receive calls from my computer. Using it the way I do, everything is accessible, but I can't speak about using it directly from the PC.

 Bill,

          This is another option I'm considering.  If memory serves, when you forward you can tell Google Voice either to pass along the original caller's number or the Google Voice number for Caller ID purposes.  I could forward the calls to the client's iPhone via her regular mobile number and use a distinctive ring if it's coming from the Google Voice number.  The important thing is that she knows whether she's answering her own native mobile number or is receiving a call from the Google Voice number.

Brian


Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Dave...
 

Tom,
 
I had some success with iPBlue's version of soft phone. They have a blind-specific modification. This was 4 years ago, so not sure what exists today.
 
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom macha
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 01:26 PM
Subject: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Hello I am checking to see if anyone has experience with, “Softphones” such as Zoiper?” If so what is the best way to get them to run with Jaws 17? Thanks, Tom


Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 


Hi, Brian. I use GoogleVoice, but I only use it to forward calls to my home phone and cell. I don't call or receive calls from my computer. Using it the way I do, everything is accessible, but I can't speak about using it directly from the PC.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 01:26 pm, Tom macha <toml614@...> wrote:
Hello I am checking to see if anyone has experience with, “Softphones” such as Zoiper?”

 Related to this, does anyone have experience with Google Voice and/or Google Hangouts with JAWS.  Freedom Scientific just waved its hand when I inquired about this.  I recently set up a Google Voice number for a client who needs a temporary second phone number during an internship.  However, we've found no way to answer calls using JAWS on the computer.  I believe we'll end up using the Hangouts app for iPhone, but I'd love to have a method to work with regular Hangouts on the PC.

Brian



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Re: How To Get Rid Of Get Windows 10 Message

 

Adrian,

           I suggest you haunt the geek forums such as Bleepingcomputer or GeeksToGo and then make your assertion again.  It is not factual, and many people have posted on those forums complaining about the re-emergence of GWX after having used the technique you recommend.

           I suggest GWX Control Panel because, so far, it's been the only thing that has been being adequately updated to keep catching the latest updates that repackage GWX with them.


Brian


Re: Jaws and soft phone, "Zoiper"

 

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 01:26 pm, Tom macha <toml614@...> wrote:
Hello I am checking to see if anyone has experience with, “Softphones” such as Zoiper?”

 Related to this, does anyone have experience with Google Voice and/or Google Hangouts with JAWS.  Freedom Scientific just waved its hand when I inquired about this.  I recently set up a Google Voice number for a client who needs a temporary second phone number during an internship.  However, we've found no way to answer calls using JAWS on the computer.  I believe we'll end up using the Hangouts app for iPhone, but I'd love to have a method to work with regular Hangouts on the PC.

Brian