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Re: facebook

Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@...>
 

I'm also having difficulties in Facebook.  I've commented or written a post on any given page, checked it before posting and then, when I post it, all that comes up is the first letter!  So upgrading to JAWS 17 does not solve the problem.  Instead, I've had to go back to JAWS 15 and, only then, am I able to post messages or comments on Facebook without the embarrassment of only the first letter showing up!

 

Kevin

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Re: facebook

Tusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,
You go to default settings in JAWS 16or 17 and arrow to the
Second choice which is
Html.
Find miscellaneous and
Arrow down to the last option (the 7th I think)
Which begins with the word
"reserve" and check it.
Now if you do that, every website would enable special keystrokes created to work with that site.
You can do that, but there is a better way.

A much better way is to
Invoke this only on the
FaceBook sites as you only need this on Facebook.
Do this by hitting
Insert + v" and
Type in the word reserve into the edit field.
When you have the chance to check that option,
You are permitting the use of special
Keystrokes that JAWS users can use on a faceBook page.

Once invoked,
You can advance to the next
Thread on FaceBook by hitting
"j" on FaceBook.
Without checking reserve option",
You would be otherwise getting
"jumpto line xx"
The other command is
"shift j"
Which takes you to theprevious thread on a Facebook page.

Now, is any one seriously actually making these keystrokes work?
If so
On which FaceBook page?

Please share one pagewhere "j"and "shift j" work on FaceBook PLEASE.


accessible testing tools to work with jaws 17 and visual studio community 2015

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. Using jaws 17, and visual studio community 2015. Doing a diploma it course, but, wondering, tried Microsoft test server, but not very accessible. So, need to run    automated  tests for a subject, intro to object orientated programming c #, and using windows 10 64 bit pro. And now, was wondering, what more accessible testing tools, have you used to do automated testing for visual studio, c # projects. Any ideas. Doing this course from http://www.upskilled.edu.au, and waiting to see if my lectuer has a free copy of visual studio pro 2015 or ultimate. But in the mean time, tried googling, and trawling through about 10 or more pages as I write. So tapping your minds, any ideas. And also using http://www.pluralsite.com, which is part of upskilled, video training, but can read the transcript in the browser. If I click on a link, the video starts playing. More accessible then http://www.lynda.com, and they are redesigning the site for blind people. I am on the accessibility beta team, and will test with four browsers. So this will be a 12 month project, as they got purchased by http://www.linkedin.com.

Any ideas, or any one in the same situation. Do not have a credit card, and now, using the free community visual studio 2015 32 bit, but no testing options, in the video, says to click on the solution for the test project, click on window, then click on test manager. Unless I need the pro version of visual studio. Any ideas.

Marvin.


Re: Plantronics Voyager Legend B235-M Bluetooth Headset and JAWS

Brent Harding
 

The H800 from Logitech is another one that is decent. It has Bluetooth as well as another wireless mode that hooks up to a tiny USB dongle that probably works better for the computer side. It has a 3-position switch, which is off, Bluetooth, and then computer. I think it is still Bluetooth 2.1, even though I just got a new one for Christmas, and that little dongle is compatible with versions of Windows going back to at least XP, and it doesn't need extra software to get it working.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: Plantronics Voyager Legend B235-M Bluetooth Headset and JAWS

Mark, it has been my experience that a bluetooth headset works best with a computer that has a fast processor.  The faster the processor, the better the results for the bluetooth headset.  I use the Bose OE Sound Link headset.  I think they have released a newer model of these, and from what I hear, they work really well, with both the computer, and a smart device such as an iPhone or iPod.

.

 

 

From: markzalewski@... [mailto:markzalewski@...]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:13 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Plantronics Voyager Legend B235-M Bluetooth Headset and JAWS

 

Was wondering if anyone was using this combination or had a recommendation for a wireless Bluetooth device that works well with JAWS.  We’re on Windows 7 JAWS 16, will soon be upgrading to 17.

 

Mark Zalewski

Print Services/Assistive Technology

Phone: 414-661-1380

E-Mail Mark Zalewski

 



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Re: F123.org.

Chris Chaffin
 

I think everybody is going to the wrong web address. For the site that makes the accessible plug in for Firefox, it is:
http://www.f123access.com

Hope this helps,

Chris

On Jan 22, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:

After going to the English link provided, I noticed that F123.org and F123 Access is for Firefox. So, I'm going to try the site with Firefox and see if accessibility is better.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <Tony@K5TWZ.Com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: F123.org.


If you can't find where to send notice of a problem I wouldn't hold out much hope of any assistance.

Using jaws and IE11 I can find no place to select a language.

Let us know if they ever make their site accessible.
Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:53 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: F123.org.

If you go to the English language version, you'll see a series of comments on the homepage, and in one they acknowledge accessibility problems brought to their attention by users and what they've done about them. So they seem to be receptive to hearing about the problems people here are experiencing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1@ct.metrocast.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: F123.org.

The sad thing about this is that it is supposed to be a project for accessibility, and the web page is not accessible.
I keep saying, one step forward, three steps back with technology.

On 1/22/2016 11:09 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:45 am, Bill White
<billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:

I couldn't view any of these buttons with JAWS and Internet Explorer.

Time for an e-mail to support@freedomscientific.com.

It's getting harder and harder for them to keep up with the changing
trends in web coding. It's also awful for those of us who are sighted
tutors because there's a trend toward making objects appear to be
something that they're not. The dreaded link button that looks like a
button (and is meant to) to those who can see but is actually a link
as far as JAWS and the actual mechanism of action is concerned.

There are three objects located to the right side of the page, one
appears to be an edit box for subscribing to their e-mail and a search
box (but the language in that remains Portuguese in those even after
the rest of the page is shifted to the chosen language) and the
language chooser dropdown directly below those.

I should have mentioned before the direct links to the pages in
languages other than Portuguese:

English: http://f123.org/en

French: http://f123.org/fr

Spanish: http://f123.org/es

If you change the language to other than the default then the list
includes Portuguese and notes that it's Brazilian dialect.
--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.













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Re: Plantronics Voyager Legend B235-M Bluetooth Headset and JAWS

Michael Mote
 

Mark, it has been my experience that a bluetooth headset works best with a computer that has a fast processor.  The faster the processor, the better the results for the bluetooth headset.  I use the Bose OE Sound Link headset.  I think they have released a newer model of these, and from what I hear, they work really well, with both the computer, and a smart device such as an iPhone or iPod.

.

 

 

From: markzalewski@... [mailto:markzalewski@...]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:13 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Plantronics Voyager Legend B235-M Bluetooth Headset and JAWS

 

Was wondering if anyone was using this combination or had a recommendation for a wireless Bluetooth device that works well with JAWS.  We’re on Windows 7 JAWS 16, will soon be upgrading to 17.

 

Mark Zalewski

Print Services/Assistive Technology

Phone: 414-661-1380

E-Mail Mark Zalewski

 



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Re: facebook

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

How do you do that, and what are the strokes? Are they the ones recommended to find Home, Notifications and so forth?

I wish there was a way to cut to What's on your mind. Then that plus comments drive me nuts, want to send a sticker, attach a photograph. I wish I could disable that option, when I want to.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: ptusing [mailto:ptusing@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 2:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

Hi, Drew,

Have you invoked “reserve” (let
Facebook page allow special keystrokes

And if so,

Do the special keystrokes ever work on any

Facebook page?)

I am referring to the “j” and “shift j”

Adapted for Facebook usage once

“reserve is invoked under

Miscellaneous

Under JAWS html options.



Please let me know if there is really any Facebook page where the

“j” jumps to the next thread or

“shift j” goes to last thread?



If such a page really exists, then people could practice on that specific Facebook page to see if the”j/shift J” thing works.

Also is there some short cut method of going straight to an edit search field on a Facebook page?

Many thanks.







From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 2:23 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook



I really don’t think that this is a Jaws issue. I am running the latest version, and have had issues with Facebook since last week. Not only that, I have issues with it on my iPhone also.



From: Drew Hunthausen <mailto:dhunthausen@gmail.com>

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:53 AM

To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

Subject: facebook



Dear list,

I’m running the latest build of Jaws 16 and for the last 1.5 weeks seem to be having a lot of trouble with facebook jumping around. I’ll be reading and try to make a comment only to find myself at the top of the page. Anyone else experiencing this? going to upgrade to 17 soon to see if that fixes the problem. Thanks fo any help


Re: JAWS 16 and FaceBook; the supposed useful keystrokes

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I have the regular and the mobile Facebooks on my Desktop.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: ptusing [mailto:ptusing@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 2:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 16 and FaceBook; the supposed useful keystrokes

Hi, Londa and all,



Using the

www.historychannel.com/facebook <http://www.historychannel.com/facebook>



or

www.historychannel.com <http://www.historychannel.com>

and then

press Enter

on Facebook:

is there a faster way to get to the

edit field of

of History Channel search editfield?

Or the editfield of any

Facebook page?



Is there some shortcut?


Re: JAWS 16 and FaceBook; the supposed useful keystrokes

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

At first the mobile site worked better for me, and now, neither are that great, but I'm more familiar with the regular site, as I didn't know about the mobile one until last summer.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Londa Peterson [mailto:lpeterson@vrocp.org]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 16 and FaceBook; the supposed useful keystrokes

One thing I'd advise is to make sure you are on the regular facebook site. The keystrokes don't work on the mobile site. I forget which build of JAWS 16 started it, but it was a fairly early one. They seemed to work for me on that page. Even if you think you're not on the mobile site, check the address bar to be sure.



From: ptusing [mailto:ptusing@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS 16 and FaceBook; the supposed useful keystrokes



HI,

I set up

“reserve” (let the site activate the keystrokes for that page ” for FaceBook in

JAWS 16.



Either certain FaceBook pages do notsupport the

New uses for the

“j” or “shift j” or

Not all versions of JAWS 16 support the new FaceBook keystrokes.



There are 3 versions of JAWS 16.



Please which JAWS 16 version supports the special key commands developed for use with FACEBOOK?



Do the special JAWS/Facebook keystrokes work for you on

www.historychannel.com <http://www.historychannel.com>

and then

pick Facebook.



Yes I have written to FaceBook list.



But this post discusses whether or when the

JAWS/Facebook key commands actually work.

Perhaps there are FaceBook pages wherethe key commandsdo notwork.



Have you found a FaceBook page where they Work?!

If so, which page. So one can test keystrokes on that lucky FaceBook page.



Many thanks.


Re: Advanced Searching in Outlook 2010 - Opinions Sought

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Very true.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Londa Peterson [mailto:lpeterson@vrocp.org]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Advanced Searching in Outlook 2010 - Opinions Sought

The only trick is that you have to type them very quickly. If you stop, you're sunk.



From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:29 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Advanced Searching in Outlook 2010 - Opinions Sought



On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:20 am, Londa Peterson <lpeterson@vrocp.org> wrote:

Then I can type the first letter, or several letters if I want, and I'll get fairly close. Hope this helps.

Londa,

Is there a trick to getting several letters to work? I have never been able, on any version of JAWS I've worked with, to get it to recognize the second through nth characters of a file name. This would be so handy such that if you knew you had a file named file1.txt and file2.txt that you could type in file2 and have JAWS zoom right to the correct one.

One of the reasons I've started teaching clients how to use Search Everything and the Copy-Paste technique of attaching files is because it's just far less tedious when they know enough of a file name to get search results that are either the single file or very few files, and those will be found anywhere they happen to be on the computer. The amount of time saved with navigating via browsing when the files in question are nowhere near each other in the folder tree is huge.

Brian


Re: facebook

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I think once you get with them, you're stuck, you can't get out, not that
they try to stop you, I just don't think there's a way out. I guess they
never thought someone might want to make a permanent exit.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:25 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

I'm having the same problems. On top of that I'm not getting all my
messages. Does anyone know of an unsubscribe link on Facebook?



From: Drew Hunthausen [mailto:dhunthausen@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:53 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: facebook



Dear list,

I'm running the latest build of Jaws 16 and for the last 1.5 weeks seem
to be having a lot of trouble with facebook jumping around. I'll be
reading and try to make a comment only to find myself at the top of the
page. Anyone else experiencing this? going to upgrade to 17 soon to see
if that fixes the problem. Thanks fo any help


Re: facebook

Drew Hunthausen
 

It’s probably something in facebook that changed, Jaws tech is probably working on something. I hope something comes really soon to fix the issues.

 

From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@...]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

 

I really don’t think that this is a Jaws issue.  I am running the latest version, and have had issues with Facebook since last week.  Not only that, I have issues with it on my iPhone also.

 

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:53 AM

Subject: facebook

 

Dear list,

I’m running the latest build of Jaws 16 and for the last 1.5 weeks seem to be having a lot of trouble with facebook jumping around. I’ll be reading and try to make a comment only to find myself at the top of the page. Anyone else experiencing this? going to upgrade to 17 soon to see if that fixes the problem. Thanks fo any help


Instructions/information on F123.org, Part 2 of 2

Tim Ford
 

Here is the other email I got from them.  If I had known of the problems, I could have sent this around, but I just got now to my emails.
 
Tim Ford
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: Please send information about your service.
 
Timothy,
 
So glad to hear of your interest in F123 Access.  We’ll be happy to get you started.
 
Please visit the following page on our website, where you will learn a little more about the system and be given instructions on how to download and activate our software (it takes a couple of minutes).
 
 
You can read more about what the system does and how it works, on these two pages:
 
 
 
We are at the stage where things are moving quickly and we need feedback and conversations with our users, so that we can improve out software.  You and I are in the same part of the world - I am in Santa Cruz, CA - and so communications will, I hope, not be a problem.
 
Kind regards,
 
Mark Readdie
F123 Access tech. support.
 
 


Instructions/information on F123.org, Part 1 of 2

Tim Ford
 

HI All,

I just got to my emails, first time since I posted the question about whether anyone had experience with F123.org. I see there were lots of problems. Below is one of two emails I received from them, and I will send the other to the list in a minute. I received these two emails after sending them a direct email, as the guy in the podcast suggested. I will not include that email address here, since all it would do is result in your getting these same emails.

Tim Ford


==========

-----Original Message-----
From: F123 Team
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:20 AM
To: ttford@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Please send information about your service.

Thank you for your interest in F123 Access (pronounced F 1 2 3 Access).

Due to the high volume of e-mails received in this address we ask that questions related to the use of F123 Access be directed to our group on Google. Below we have included further details about the group and F123 Access.

Please save this message as it has information that is often helpful. This e-mail includes:

* Links to Install Firefox and the F123 Access Extension
* E-mail address to subscribe to the F123 Access Google Group
* Web WhatsApp with F123 Access
* Activating and Deactivating Accessibility Packages
* Facebook with F123 Access
* Youtube Accessibility
* Updating or Refreshing F123 Access
* Suggestions for F123 Access developers

If your question is not addressed in this message, please participate in our group. The e-mail to subscribe to F123 Access group is included below.

* Links to Install Firefox and the F123 Access Extension

To install Mozilla Firefox please visit:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

To install F123 Access (for the first time), please visit the following link with your Firefox browser:
https://f123access.com/intro_en

If you have registered and installed F123 Access in the past and you need to re-install it for any reason, there is no need to register again. Open the following link with Firefox and, during installation, use the same e-mail address you used in your previous registration:
https://F123Access.com/xpi

Please make sure you have "Private Browsing" turned off. Whenever "Private Browsing" is on, all extensions are automatically turned off, including F123 Access. This can also happen if you have Firefox configured to never remember history.

* E-mail address to subscribe to the F123 Access Google Group

To participate on our F123 Access Google group, please send a blank e-mail to the following address:
F123-Access-English+subscribe@googlegroups.com

To join groups for other languages, please select from the following options:

For Spanish-speakers:
F123-Access-Espanol+subscribe@GoogleGroups.com

For Portuguese speakers:
F123-Access-Portugues+subscribe@GoogleGroups.com

For Italian-speakers:
F123-Access-Italiano+subscribe@GoogleGroups.com

We have F123 Access users in more than 30 countries. If you would like to start a Google Group in a new language, please let us know sending an e-mail in English to:
information@F123.org

Please note that we are not responsible for the content shared in these e-mail and WhatsApp groups. Having said that, we will do our best to block participants that are not polite, constructive, and/or fail to meet legal or other internationally accepted standards of behavior. We also ask for your assistance in ensuring that exchanges in these groups remain constructive and polite.

* Web WhatsApp with F123 Access

At this time, the Web WhatsApp page is not accessible to users of screen-readers (despite the popularity of the service among the blind). To allow screen-reader users around the world to have the convenience of their full-size computer keyboard when using WhatsApp, and to demonstrate the power of our technology, Web WhatsApp became the first publicly available site reformatted by F123 Access. In this section we describe the process of signing-up and then using Web WhatsApp with F123 Access.

Please note that because of the way the WhatsApp team designed the service, it is necessary that you have a smartphone with WhatsApp installed and working, preferably through a WiFi connection, so that you may use WhatsApp on your computer. The WiFi suggestion is merely in order to prevent that you use-up all your cellular data plan with WhatsApp's frequent updates, as accessing the service through your computer will still cause your phone to constantly update.

Since Web WhatsApp requires users to sign-in by scanning a QR code with their phones, we suggest that most users ask for sighted assistance when signing-in for the first or second time. If you check the box on the WhatsApp web page where you have to scan the QR code, where it says "Keep me logged in", you will only have to scan it once. In any case, it is usually possible to learn the right position for the phone and then scan the QR code independently.

The process is as follows:

1. Open WhatsApp on your phone and select Settings and then Web WhatsApp.

On some phones, when you are on the WhatsApp screen, you need to find the menu button and select it to get these options: New Group, New Transmission, Web WhatsApp, Status and Settings. In that case, select "Web WhatsApp".

2. Open Web WhatsApp on your Mozilla Firefox browser after installing F123 Access. The address for Web WhatsApp is:

https://web.WhatsApp.com/

3. Then position your phone vertically in front of your computer screen with its camera facing the screen. The touch screen will be facing you while the outside or back camera is facing the screen.

On my laptop computer the distance is more or less the same as the spacebar and the phone is held left of center. In other words, I hold it vertically right above the left-most edge of the spacebar. I move it left and right a bit if the login does not happen immediately.

4. You will usually hear a beep or feel a vibration when login takes place.

If you are using screen magnification, have screen brightness turned too low, or have a dialog box open on the screen, login will not happen this easily. If the above steps are not working for you, please ask someone sighted to check if your screen brightness is normal, if magnification is not active, and if there is nothing blocking the normal view on the screen, i.e. the QR code.

5. Once you are logged-in, you will notice that you can easily jump from one recent conversation to another using 2 and Shift+2 for level 2 headers, or just H and Shift H if you prefer. You can then choose one of those contacts or groups by pressing Enter and your screen reader focus will be placed on the edit field to write to that contact.

Buttons and links that were previously not labeled will now be labeled, and you can quickly read messages exchanged with H and Shift H. But if you just want to see the messages sent by your contact, 4 and Shift 4 will give you those, while 5 and Shift 5 will show you just your messages to that person or group.

The above F123 Access convention of using level 4 headers for text messages sent to you and level 5 headers for the messages you sent, is the same we use on Facebook chat.

Now, with F123 Access, you are ready to use Web WhatsApp!

* Activating and Deactivating Accessibility Packages

F123 Access improves the accessibility of web pages thanks to special computer code designed to correct problems. We divide that software code in what we call accessibility packages. Some accessibility packages are specific to certain web pages, such as WhatsApp or Facebook, while others are generic, and can make corrections in a wide variety of pages. You can activate or deactivate your accessibility packages by checking or unchecking them under "My Preferences", in the F123 Access menu.

You may quickly open the F123 Access menu with Alt+3 and once you enter the preferences option, you will find two sections. One contains settings and the other lists the packages available to you. Everyone has WhatsApp, Facebook, and Youtube. However, members of our testers' group might also have access to additional packages.

Everyone who has helped others on our support Google Group or WhatsApp group is eligible to join our testers' group. Contact us if you are interested in joining.

* Facebook with F123 Access

Here are the main changes to Facebook with F123 Access:

Facebook Headers:

The major sections on the Facebook page can be found with your screen-reader's command for level 1 headers. This is usually 1 and Shift+1. Level 4 headers are used for names of friends and level 5 for stories on the newsfeed. Level 6 header indicates the button to load more posts on your newsfeed.

Friend Requests and Newsfeed:

Depending on your selection on the "My Preferences" settings, these lists will be either structured as tables or with headings, to make reviewing and acting on them easier and faster for you.

Making a post on Facebook:

It is now possible to see all of the settings for privacy, etc. and to change them while making a post.

Facebook Short-Cut Keys:

Alt C will place you on the keyboard shortcut menu where you can use the letter F to jump to the search box for that page, or the H key to jump to the home page of that site.

Facebook Chat:

You can now hear an audio notification when you receive a chat message and you can quickly review previous messages looking for level 4 and level 5 headers with your screen reader. Messages sent to you are shown with level 4 headers, and messages sent by you are shown with level 5 headers. This is the same arrangement F123 Access uses on Web WhatsApp.

You can also easily send a text message by pressing the 'Enter' key when you are finished writing. There is no need to press Tab and then click on the 'Send' button.

* Youtube Accessibility

Youtube Headers:

As you will also observe in many other pages reformatted with F123 Access, Youtube has the major sections of the page marked with a level 1 header. So in most screen-readers you will be able to move between them using 1 and Shift+1.

You can also easily find the titles of videos using level 4 headers, again, pressing 4 or Shift 4 in most screen readers.

Youtube Shortcuts:

F123 Access also provides keyboard shorcuts on every page of Youtube. Just like with Facebook, you can press Alt C and the letter H to go to the home page, or Alt C and the letter F to go to the search box of the current page. Just remember that for search we used F as in "Find".

Video Player Controls:

On Youtube F123 Access provides accessible video control buttons that allow you to Pause, Fast Forward, or Rewind each video.

* Updating or Refreshing F123 Access

Since the F123 Access has been implemented as a browser extension, its updating will happen automatically depending on your browser's settings. It is usually best to leave default settings alone and not worry about them, unless you have special requirements.

However, there will be occasions when an especially important improvement or change is made to F123 Access, and you might want to update your version of the extension even before this is done automatically by your browser. When this happens we will notify everyone using either the e-mail list or the F123 Help Tip notice.

In our notice, we will explain how to update your version of F123 Access, but here are the two basic methods, toggling and full update.

Toggling:

Smaller updates will only require you to toggle F123 Access off and back on again. You can do this through the very first option on the F123 Access menu, called "Active". Simply open the F123 Access menu and press the 'Enter' key at the "Active" option to uncheck it, and then do the same to check it. This can be done fairly quickly with the Alt+3 keyboard shortcut in Mozilla Firefox and 'Enter', or the Alt+0 shortcut in Google Chrome and 'Enter'.

There are two things that are important to do after turning F123 Access off and on again, and they are both easy to forget. First, you should wait a couple of seconds before doing anything after you turn the extension on again. This is because at this time, the extension will download its rules and this may take a few seconds. Second, you will only see changes caused by the new update once you refresh your current web page. You can refresh by pressing 'F5'.

Full Update:

The very last option on the Firefox F123 Access menu is used for updating your extension. To perform the update, simply press 'Enter' on this option and the system will either update F123 Access and tell you that it went well and give you the new version number, or show you a very similar dialog box saying that you already have the latest version. In either case, all you have to do is click on "Ok", in order to close the dialog box.

* Suggestions for F123 Access developers

Suggestions are always welcome and appreciated. It is thanks to suggestions from our users that F123 Access improves daily. But they are not always implemented because in such a complex technical project like F123 Access, the sequence and priority of which features are implemented, do not only depend on what is visible to our users, but also on internal processes.

When we distribute updates that make new features available to the user, this will be reported in the support list created in Google, so that those interested in those improvements can have a chance to try them. If F123 Access has been updated and there is no notice on the list, users can assume that changes were made to improve the speed and/or security of the software and not its functionality.

Considering the size of our task list, the only way to speed up the process is with more resources. If anyone has contacts on a foundation or other entity that can support our project, please let us know at:
F123Access@F123.org

Best regards,

The F123 Team

Help a blind friend by sharing this link:
https://F123Access.com/intro_en


Re: facebook

Tusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,  Drew,

Have you invoked “reserve”  (let
Facebook page allow special keystrokes

And if so,

Do the special keystrokes ever work on any

Facebook page?)

I am referring to the   “j” and “shift j”

Adapted for Facebook usage  once

“reserve is invoked under

Miscellaneous

Under JAWS  html options.

 

Please let me know if there is really  any Facebook page where the

“j”  jumps to the  next thread or

“shift j” goes to  last thread?

 

If such a page  really  exists, then people could practice on that  specific   Facebook  page to see if the”j/shift J”   thing works.

Also  is there some short cut method of going straight to an edit search field on a Facebook page?

Many thanks.

 

 

 

From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@...]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 2:23 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook

 

I really don’t think that this is a Jaws issue.  I am running the latest version, and have had issues with Facebook since last week.  Not only that, I have issues with it on my iPhone also.

 

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:53 AM

Subject: facebook

 

Dear list,

I’m running the latest build of Jaws 16 and for the last 1.5 weeks seem to be having a lot of trouble with facebook jumping around. I’ll be reading and try to make a comment only to find myself at the top of the page. Anyone else experiencing this? going to upgrade to 17 soon to see if that fixes the problem. Thanks fo any help


Re: JAWS 16 and FaceBook; the supposed useful keystrokes

Tusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,  Londa and all,

 

Using the

www.historychannel.com/facebook

 

or

www.historychannel.com

and then

press Enter

on Facebook:

is there  a faster way to get to the

edit field of

of History  Channel search editfield?

Or the editfield of any

Facebook page?

 

Is there some shortcut?

 


Re: F123.org.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

OK. I went to f123.org with firefox, and it doesn't show the language drop down menu in Firefox either.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: F123.org.


No need to despair. Nermin posted the address for the English language version a little while ago:
http://f123.org/en/

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony [mailto:Tony@K5TWZ.Com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: F123.org.

If you can't find where to send notice of a problem I wouldn't hold out much hope of any assistance.

Using jaws and IE11 I can find no place to select a language.

Let us know if they ever make their site accessible.
Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:53 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: F123.org.

If you go to the English language version, you'll see a series of comments on the homepage, and in one they acknowledge accessibility problems brought to their attention by users and what they've done about them. So they seem to be receptive to hearing about the problems people here are experiencing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1@ct.metrocast.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: F123.org.

The sad thing about this is that it is supposed to be a project for accessibility, and the web page is not accessible.
I keep saying, one step forward, three steps back with technology.

On 1/22/2016 11:09 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:45 am, Bill White
<billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:

I couldn't view any of these buttons with JAWS and Internet Explorer.

Time for an e-mail to support@freedomscientific.com.

It's getting harder and harder for them to keep up with the changing
trends in web coding. It's also awful for those of us who are sighted
tutors because there's a trend toward making objects appear to be
something that they're not. The dreaded link button that looks like a
button (and is meant to) to those who can see but is actually a link
as far as JAWS and the actual mechanism of action is concerned.

There are three objects located to the right side of the page, one
appears to be an edit box for subscribing to their e-mail and a search
box (but the language in that remains Portuguese in those even after
the rest of the page is shifted to the chosen language) and the
language chooser dropdown directly below those.

I should have mentioned before the direct links to the pages in
languages other than Portuguese:

English: http://f123.org/en

French: http://f123.org/fr

Spanish: http://f123.org/es

If you change the language to other than the default then the list
includes Portuguese and notes that it's Brazilian dialect.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

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Re: facebook

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I really don’t think that this is a Jaws issue.  I am running the latest version, and have had issues with Facebook since last week.  Not only that, I have issues with it on my iPhone also.
 

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:53 AM
Subject: facebook
 

Dear list,

I’m running the latest build of Jaws 16 and for the last 1.5 weeks seem to be having a lot of trouble with facebook jumping around. I’ll be reading and try to make a comment only to find myself at the top of the page. Anyone else experiencing this? going to upgrade to 17 soon to see if that fixes the problem. Thanks fo any help


Re: F123.org.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

After going to the English link provided, I noticed that F123.org and F123 Access is for Firefox. So, I'm going to try the site with Firefox and see if accessibility is better.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony" <Tony@K5TWZ.Com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: F123.org.


If you can't find where to send notice of a problem I wouldn't hold out much hope of any assistance.

Using jaws and IE11 I can find no place to select a language.

Let us know if they ever make their site accessible.
Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:53 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: F123.org.

If you go to the English language version, you'll see a series of comments on the homepage, and in one they acknowledge accessibility problems brought to their attention by users and what they've done about them. So they seem to be receptive to hearing about the problems people here are experiencing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1@ct.metrocast.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: F123.org.

The sad thing about this is that it is supposed to be a project for accessibility, and the web page is not accessible.
I keep saying, one step forward, three steps back with technology.

On 1/22/2016 11:09 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:45 am, Bill White
<billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:

I couldn't view any of these buttons with JAWS and Internet Explorer.

Time for an e-mail to support@freedomscientific.com.

It's getting harder and harder for them to keep up with the changing
trends in web coding. It's also awful for those of us who are sighted
tutors because there's a trend toward making objects appear to be
something that they're not. The dreaded link button that looks like a
button (and is meant to) to those who can see but is actually a link
as far as JAWS and the actual mechanism of action is concerned.

There are three objects located to the right side of the page, one
appears to be an edit box for subscribing to their e-mail and a search
box (but the language in that remains Portuguese in those even after
the rest of the page is shifted to the chosen language) and the
language chooser dropdown directly below those.

I should have mentioned before the direct links to the pages in
languages other than Portuguese:

English: http://f123.org/en

French: http://f123.org/fr

Spanish: http://f123.org/es

If you change the language to other than the default then the list
includes Portuguese and notes that it's Brazilian dialect.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.













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Re: F123.org.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

After going to the English link provided, I noticed that F123.org and F123 Access is for Firefox. So, I'm going to try the site with Firefox and see if accessibility is better.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony" <Tony@K5TWZ.Com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: F123.org.


If you can't find where to send notice of a problem I wouldn't hold out much hope of any assistance.

Using jaws and IE11 I can find no place to select a language.

Let us know if they ever make their site accessible.
Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:53 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: F123.org.

If you go to the English language version, you'll see a series of comments on the homepage, and in one they acknowledge accessibility problems brought to their attention by users and what they've done about them. So they seem to be receptive to hearing about the problems people here are experiencing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1@ct.metrocast.net]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: F123.org.

The sad thing about this is that it is supposed to be a project for accessibility, and the web page is not accessible.
I keep saying, one step forward, three steps back with technology.

On 1/22/2016 11:09 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:45 am, Bill White
<billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:

I couldn't view any of these buttons with JAWS and Internet Explorer.

Time for an e-mail to support@freedomscientific.com.

It's getting harder and harder for them to keep up with the changing
trends in web coding. It's also awful for those of us who are sighted
tutors because there's a trend toward making objects appear to be
something that they're not. The dreaded link button that looks like a
button (and is meant to) to those who can see but is actually a link
as far as JAWS and the actual mechanism of action is concerned.

There are three objects located to the right side of the page, one
appears to be an edit box for subscribing to their e-mail and a search
box (but the language in that remains Portuguese in those even after
the rest of the page is shifted to the chosen language) and the
language chooser dropdown directly below those.

I should have mentioned before the direct links to the pages in
languages other than Portuguese:

English: http://f123.org/en

French: http://f123.org/fr

Spanish: http://f123.org/es

If you change the language to other than the default then the list
includes Portuguese and notes that it's Brazilian dialect.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.













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