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Filling In the EDIT field on Facebook

Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@...>
 

Has anyone had problems with Facebook., lately?  I’ve tried posting comments, but only the first letter comes out!!  Then, I don’t know how to take the post down and try again, because there doesn’t seem to be any link to delete it.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Kevin

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Re: What happens with Edit fields in I E 11 with JAWS 15, latest JAWS 16 & 17?

Maria Campbell
 

I'm happy to report that I don't have that problem.
My forms mode works just fine in JAWS 15, which I find more stable than 16 or 17.

On 1/18/2016 11:25 AM, ptusing wrote:
Hi,

Wow.

Thank you for this warning.

Is any one else unable to use forms mode in earlier JAWS versions after

Install of JAWS 17?

That is not supposed to happen.

If this is a sampling of issues,

Then

F S needs to hear about this.

*From:*Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2016 6:24 AM
*To:* jfw@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: What happens with Edit fields in I E 11 with JAWS 15,
latest JAWS 16 & 17?

I haven't been able to invoke forms mode in jaws 15 ever since
installing jaws 17. I know that the functionality of forms mode is a bit
different in jaws 17 and figured something got corrupted. I'm running
Windows 7 and I.E.11 and have this same on both my work and personal
laptops. It's not a solution, but sort of nice to know it isn't just me.



Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On Jan 17, 2016, at 11:05 PM, ptusing <ptusing@sbcglobal.net
<mailto:ptusing@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Hi,

Please indicate if one can enter text into edit fields using

I E 11 with

JAWS 15,

Latest JAWS 16 and

JAWS 17 version?

The imput on This great list and the excellent posts here can
give people

An idea as to how prevalent a problem is so a solution can be
hopefully found.

I really do appreciate it when a JAWS user spends hours of time
working with F S as Tom did to get a problem solved.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: What happens with Edit fields in I E 11 with JAWS 15, latest JAWS 16 & 17?

Kimber Gardner
 

I don't think FS is all that interested, frankly. The response when I
brought the problem to their attention was pretty much, if you have 16
and 17 why even worry about whether forms mode works in 15? Just use
the current version.

Kimber

On 1/18/16, ptusing <ptusing@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hi,

Wow.

Thank you for this warning.

Is any one else unable to use forms mode in earlier JAWS versions after

Install of JAWS 17?

That is not supposed to happen.

If this is a sampling of issues,



Then

F S needs to hear about this.





From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: What happens with Edit fields in I E 11 with JAWS 15, latest
JAWS 16 & 17?



I haven't been able to invoke forms mode in jaws 15 ever since installing
jaws 17. I know that the functionality of forms mode is a bit different in
jaws 17 and figured something got corrupted. I'm running Windows 7 and
I.E.11 and have this same on both my work and personal laptops. It's not a
solution, but sort of nice to know it isn't just me.



Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On Jan 17, 2016, at 11:05 PM, ptusing <ptusing@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hi,

Please indicate if one can enter text into edit fields using

I E 11 with

JAWS 15,

Latest JAWS 16 and

JAWS 17 version?

The imput on This great list and the excellent posts here can give
people

An idea as to how prevalent a problem is so a solution can be hopefully
found.



I really do appreciate it when a JAWS user spends hours of time working with
F S as Tom did to get a problem solved.



--
Kimberly


Re: JAWS 17 and Copying Web text

Don Moore <donmoore@...>
 

Hi Bill, Mike and Darran,

 

                I do use the “Select and Copy from Virtual Cursor” option to copy text from IE to the clipboard and then paste it into a Word document. However, I have encountered a continuing problem using this option with Windows 10, JAWS 17 and IE 11:

 

If I press Insert v when in a web page in IE and choose the “Select and Copy from Virtual Cursor” and then press Enter on the OK button, it does work for a while. However, the next time I go to a web page and copy that page to the clipboard and paste it into a Word document, it might work or it might revert to the default option, which is “Select and Copy Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight.”

 

                I contacted FS about this, but anything I have tried hasn’t succeeded.

 

                Any suggestions will be appreciated.

 

                Don

 

From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 6:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 and Copying Web text

 

Hi, Mike. You Wrote:

 

3. If you choose the, From Virtual Cursor option, this copies the text with formatting.  If you choose the, Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight option, this will copy the text without formatting.

 

Actually, it is the reverse. If you choose the, From Virtual Cursor, option, it will copy plain text. If you choose the, Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight, option, it will copy full content including formatting.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS 17 and Copying Web text

 

Hi Darran,

 

Another option to try is:

1. While in IE, you didn't say which browser so I'm assuming IE, press, Insert / Jaws Key, to open Quick Settings Internet Explorer.

2. Arrow down to, Virtual Cursor Options, & under this heading is Select & Copy, & here you have 2 choices which you press the spacebar to toggle between them.

3. If you choose the, From Virtual Cursor option, this copies the text with formatting.  If you choose the, Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight option, this will copy the text without formatting.

Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:24 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS 17 and Copying Web text

 

Try shift-control-v, then arrow down through the options.

 

From: Darran Ross [mailto:darran.ross@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 2:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS 17 and Copying Web text

 

Hi List.

 

I'm having a brain freeze here, and I can't remember for the life of me which setting I need to alter to allow me to copy and paste text from a webpage into a word document?

 

At the moment what I'm copying is not what's being pasted!

 

I've been into the Settings Centre, but I can't find the relevant check box, or even recall what it is I should be looking for. My stumbling about in there is getting me nowhere in a hurry!

 

Any and all help gratefully received.

 

Thanks.

 

Darran

 

 

 



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Re: IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi, Marsha,
Please could you indicate the JAWS version
Where you are having problems with edit fields using I E 11?
What happens with those editfields in I E 11?
This will really help as it is now several users of I E 11 having the
problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marsha via Groups.io [mailto:marcatony=yahoo.com@groups.io]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 12:28 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

HI
I have found this happening also.

Marsha


Re: What happens with Edit fields in I E 11 with JAWS 15, latest JAWS 16 & 17?

Tusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,

Wow.

Thank you for this warning.

Is any one else unable to use forms mode in earlier JAWS versions after

Install of JAWS 17?

That is not supposed to happen.

If this is a sampling of issues,

 

Then

F S  needs to hear about this.

 

 

From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@...]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: What happens with Edit fields in I E 11 with JAWS 15, latest JAWS 16 & 17?

 

I haven't been able to invoke forms mode in jaws 15 ever since installing jaws 17. I know that the functionality of forms mode is a bit different in jaws 17 and figured something got corrupted. I'm running Windows 7 and I.E.11 and have this same on both my work and personal laptops. It's not a solution, but sort of nice to know it isn't just me.



Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On Jan 17, 2016, at 11:05 PM, ptusing <ptusing@...> wrote:

Hi,

Please indicate if   one can  enter text into edit fields using

I E 11 with

JAWS 15,

Latest JAWS 16 and

JAWS 17 version?

The   imput on   This great list and the excellent posts here can give people

An idea as to how prevalent a problem is so a solution can be hopefully found.

 

I really do appreciate it when a JAWS user spends hours of time working with F S as Tom did  to  get a problem solved.


Re: Rumola; Does anyone know whether the problem with Webvisum not working with the latest version of Firefox has been fixed?

Gerald Levy
 

Okay, here's the steps for getting Rumola to work with IE:

1. Access the Rumola web site (http://skipinput.com/), and press "H" repeatedly until you land on the heading labeled "Bookmarklet". Then tab to the link labeled "...Rumola" and press Enter.
2. Launch the Context menu and scroll all the way down to the Add to Favorites dialog. Tab to the combo box and scroll down the list once to choose Favorites bar and then tab to the Add button and activate it.
3. Once Rumola is in the Favorites bar, activate it for the first time and you should be presented with a web page for purchasing credits which are 99 cents for 50 captcha credits, which are good for a year. You can pay with PayPal or a major credit/credit card. Once your account has been activated, you will receive an email with your user-ID (usually your email address) and password. Be sure to save this email so that you have a record of your password for future reference should you need it, although you will be logged in initially.
4. Now Rumola is ready to use. Using IE, whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha, press Control-I to launch the favorites list, scroll to the favorites bar by pressing "F" repeatedly, and hit Enter when you land on Rumola. The captcha will be solved almost instantly and placed in the correct edit field, and one credit will be deducted from your account. Keep checking this edit field to be sure that the result is there; there is no audible feedback to alert you that the captcha has been solve.
5. If you want to test Rumola, visit the following sample image captcha page and activate Rumola from the IE favorites bar. The result will be placed in the field labeled "2+3=". Note that if you refresh this page, a new image captcha will be presented. This is only a test page, not a real account creation page:

http://www.captchacreator.com/v-examples.html

That's it. Good luck!

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:35 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Rumola; Does anyone know whether the problem with Webvisum not working with the latest version of Firefox has been fixed?

Gerald,

Great sales pitch that got me to install Rumola as a Firefox extension. However, could you give the steps for how to get Rumola to IE favorites?

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?


Yes, absolutely. Rumola works perfectly with IE. You simply place the
Rumola app in the IE favorites bar, and whenever you encounter a web page
that contains an image captcha, you launch it from the favorites bar, and it
will place the captcha result in the correct edit field automatically.
Trust me. I know it works with IE because I have tested it extensively.
Last week, for instance, I unexpectedly encountered a captcha on the log-in
page for the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance. I simply
pressed Control-I to launch the IE favorites list, scrolled to the favorites
bar, launched Rumola, and almost instantaneously, the captcha result was
placed in the correct edit field. That's all there is to it.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:05 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working
with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

Are you sure that Rumola works with Internet Explorer?
From the information I found, it works with Firefox, Chrome, and Safari, but
says nothing about Internet Explorer.

Chris


On Jan 17, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net> wrote:

Rumola


Re: google drive help

 

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:06 pm, Marianne Denning wrote:
Why do you want to avoid the web based Google? That is how people
working on the same document can collaborate together.

 Marianne,

           Can't this also be achieved by opening a Google Doc using the actual Google Doc editor by accessing the file from the local Google Drive Sync folder?

           I've never tried to do collaboration as you describe it, but I do have clients who far prefer to access files stored on their Google Drive, or shared via their Google Drive, using the "local" Google Sync Drive folder.  It's much easier to get to files that way than through the Google Drive web interface.

           I use the web interface pretty much exclusively, but I can understand why someone who was blind or visually-impaired would have a strong preference for using the Google Sync Drive that they can set up on their computer, and that appears for all the world like any other folder, rather than the web interface unless they needed to use it to add an item shared with them but that they do not own.

Brian


Re: Adding Favorites In Firefox

 

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 05:53 am, Bill White wrote:
The difference is that if you know how to do it, you can make a shortcut to your favorites folder, and without having to open your browser first, you can click on a favorite and go directly there.

 This is true.  Microsoft simply implemented its "Favorites" as a folder of webpage shortcuts.  If one really prefers to launch directly into a given webpage for a different default browser you can simply create that same shortcut style in favorites "by hand."

Chrome allows you to create what it calls an "application shortcut" to take you directly to a webpage when you click on it via the "hamburger stack button"/Menu button, More Tools, Create application shortcuts.  This will place the result on your desktop, if you prefer it be in the Favorites folder you can cut and paste it there.

There is a Firefox extension called deskCut that does the same thing, but does not work under Windows 10 and Firefox 43.0.4, and I'm not certain which is the problem since there is a very recent review saying that it does work even though the extension is quite old.  There is another, SaveLink, that is slightly more complicated in that it can save the web page shortcut to any folder you define as a place you'd like to save them.  If if the Favorites folder is where you'd prefer they go then you can add add that to the list of folders where SaveLink can save web page shortcuts and always direct SaveLink to place it there.

I have not tested either of these Firefox add-ons for how well they may, or may not, interact with JAWS.  Since the Chrome method is built in to Chrome if you can get to the Chrome menu you can get to it.

Brian


Re: google drive help

Marianne Denning
 

The webinar is free so don't worry about the cost. I have exchange
students and I help them with homework. If we both have the document
open at the same time I can see as they edit and they can see as I
edit. If you are working in a group and someone is making changes to
the document you can see the changes as they take place so that might
spark other thoughts for changes.

On 1/18/16, Kimsan <kimsansong@outlook.com> wrote:
Marryanne:

Maybe I'm naïve when it comes to google drive, and I should invest in the
Web&R which I will; however, I assumed google drive and sharing was simply
similar to dropbox and sharing.


Based on my limited knowledge of google drive, the only time to visit the
web in relation to sharing is when you actually share the folder, but after
that it was a simple copy and paste after the folders were created and
shared between all parties...

Like the old saying goes, you learn something everyday.
-----Original Message-----
From: Marianne Denning [mailto:marianne@denningweb.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: google drive help

Why do you want to avoid the web based Google? That is how people working
on the same document can collaborate together.

On 1/15/16, Kimsan <kimsansong@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,

My college just created a google drive folder. I have my own google
drive folder, and I have the google drive folder on my desktop.

How can I put that shared folder into my folder that I have on my
desktop, so I can avoid the web based route.

Thanks.


--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053






--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053

I have attached a list of common commands and I hope it is helpful.


Re: Adding Favorites In Firefox

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

The difference is that if you know how to do it, you can make a shortcut to your favorites folder, and without having to open your browser first, you can click on a favorite and go directly there. With a bookmark, you can't do that, because there is no way to get to your bookmarks without opening the browser first. This way, it's like being able to open a favorite, and every favorite becomes a temporary home page in the browser.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Adding Favorites In Firefox


Functionally, what is the practical difference between a bookmark and a
favorite?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:45 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding Favorites In Firefox

That's not a favorite, that's a bookmark. A favorite creates an actual
Windows shortcut which resides under the Roaming folder in Windows7.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: Adding Favorites In Firefox


Bill, I don't have the add-on you reference. Alt-A doesn't work for me.
However, Ctrl-D is the keystroke I use and then I can name the
favorite; it does have a default name, of course.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 3:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding Favorites In Firefox

Hi, Tom. I also use PlainOldFavorites in Firefox. Adding favorites in
Firefox works the same way it does for Internet Explorer. All you need
to do is to go to the page you want to make a favorite for in Firefox.
Once you are there, Press Alt plus the letter A. Then press the Enter
key, and the favorite is automatically added. The thing which may be
confusing is that the favorite will appear at the bottom of the
favorites list in Firefox instead of being in alphabetical order. If
you want the list to be in alphabetical order again, you must go to
the PlainOldFavorites AdOn in the AdOns manager in Firefox, Click on
the PlainOldFavorites Adon. It will then say Read Only. Tab to the
options for that option. Select the option "Sort By Name". If the
option says it is checked, press the space Bar to uncheck this option,
then press the Space Bar to re-check the option. Tab to the OK button,
and press Enter. Then Press Alt plus W to close Firefox. When you open
Firefox again, the favorites will appear in alphabetical order.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 8:09 AM
Subject: Adding Favorites In Firefox


Hello, everyone.



A while back, I imported internet favorites from Internet Explorer to
Firefox using the add-on tool called plain old favorites.





http://www.iosart.com/firefox/plainoldfavorites/





Since I now am using Firefox as my main internet browser, I'm
interested in adding some additional favorites to my favorites list.



I can find the tab that says "add favorites", but when I attempt to do
this, nothing happens. Jaws says nothing, and I appear to get a blank
screen.



Am I missing a step here, or is there a different way to add new
favorites to my favorites list in Firefox?



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







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Re: Rumola; Does anyone know whether the problem with Webvisum not working with the latest version of Firefox has been fixed?

Adrian Spratt
 

Gerald,

Great sales pitch that got me to install Rumola as a Firefox extension. However, could you give the steps for how to get Rumola to IE favorites?

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?


Yes, absolutely. Rumola works perfectly with IE. You simply place the
Rumola app in the IE favorites bar, and whenever you encounter a web page
that contains an image captcha, you launch it from the favorites bar, and it
will place the captcha result in the correct edit field automatically.
Trust me. I know it works with IE because I have tested it extensively.
Last week, for instance, I unexpectedly encountered a captcha on the log-in
page for the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance. I simply
pressed Control-I to launch the IE favorites list, scrolled to the favorites
bar, launched Rumola, and almost instantaneously, the captcha result was
placed in the correct edit field. That's all there is to it.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:05 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working
with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

Are you sure that Rumola works with Internet Explorer?
From the information I found, it works with Firefox, Chrome, and Safari, but
says nothing about Internet Explorer.

Chris


On Jan 17, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net> wrote:

Rumola


Re: IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tom Behler
 

Amit:

 

I am using Jaws 16 with Windows 7.

 

Repairing, and then re-installing Jaws did not work last summer when I worked with FS on this issue.  I am willing to try it again with the latest build of Jaws 16 or even with Jaws 17, but only as a last resort, since I am not sure the merge utilities feature will be available any more to help restore my previous Jaws settings.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: amit aggarwal [mailto:aggarwal.amit444@...]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:11 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

 

Hi Tom,
I'm working with IE11 on windows8.1 and JAWS17
But I couldn't found any issues.
Have you tried re-installing JAWS?
Firefox is a good browser, but IE is great.
Also, witch OS are you using?
Let's see if this problem can be fixed.
Regards,
Amit

On 1/18/2016 1:30 AM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE 10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I access.

 

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and install IE 11.

 

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

 

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

 

However, this is where the good news ends.

 

I’m now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last summer.  I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into edit boxes, and she tells me that my main  cursor does not move when I try to do so.  As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not entered into the web form.  I have Jaws set to manually enter forms mode, so I know I’m in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding click whenever I hit enter.

 

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars  are disabled, but so far, no joy!

 

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific  Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff, and with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we could never solve the issue.

 

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that works fine!

 

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please send them my way.

 

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: I E 11: Didn't F S claim how easy it is to enter text into Edit fields with JAWS 17?

Gerald Levy
 

 
IE 11 will be supported through January, 2020. Support for all older versions of IE was discontinued last week.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: I E 11: Didn't F S claim how easy it is to enter text into Edit fields with JAWS 17?
 
Well, Microsoft has Edge now as their browser, so it wouldn't surprise me if support for I.E. Is dropped at some point in the future though I haven't read anything to that end.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Jan 17, 2016, at 7:58 PM, ptusing <ptusing@...> wrote:

Hi,

First,  Tom I believe you               , because you are not the first person to post the same problem

Entering  text into   edit fields using I E 11.

 

Last Fall, I remember listening as to how F S claimed how easy it is to enter text into

Editfields using JAWS 17.

Obviously, they were  using I E 11 or  maybe not, in their demonstration

Accessing  edit fields.

 

When I  asked F S  about entering text into editfields using I E 11 or if there were any  known issues with I E 11;

I  was told no one had heard of any issues with I E 11.

 

I mention this as 3 months ago,  people had mentioned issues with Adobe and JAWS 16& 17; F S said there were no issues there.

Very recently , according to a person I spoke with from  Microsoft Disability help desk, the latter  issue is a known issue.

 

So if  there  are other issues with I E 11,

Please raise them Here as this helps all of us.

 

I have also heard that Microsoft plans to dump I E.

the

Disability help desk says otherwise.

Is  F S beefing up its supportfor I E 11?

Thank you.


Re: I E 11: Didn't F S claim how easy it is to enter text into Edit fields with JAWS 17?

Kimber Gardner
 

Well, Microsoft has Edge now as their browser, so it wouldn't surprise me if support for I.E. Is dropped at some point in the future though I haven't read anything to that end. 


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On Jan 17, 2016, at 7:58 PM, ptusing <ptusing@...> wrote:

Hi,

First,  Tom I believe you               , because you are not the first person to post the same problem

Entering  text into   edit fields using I E 11.

 

Last Fall, I remember listening as to how F S claimed how easy it is to enter text into

Editfields using JAWS 17.

Obviously, they were  using I E 11 or  maybe not, in their demonstration

Accessing  edit fields.

 

When I  asked F S  about entering text into editfields using I E 11 or if there were any  known issues with I E 11;

I  was told no one had heard of any issues with I E 11.

 

I mention this as 3 months ago,  people had mentioned issues with Adobe and JAWS 16& 17; F S said there were no issues there.

Very recently , according to a person I spoke with from  Microsoft Disability help desk, the latter  issue is a known issue.

 

So if  there  are other issues with I E 11,

Please raise them Here as this helps all of us.

 

I have also heard that Microsoft plans to dump I E.

the

Disability help desk says otherwise.

Is  F S beefing up its supportfor I E 11?

Thank you.


Re: What happens with Edit fields in I E 11 with JAWS 15, latest JAWS 16 & 17?

Kimber Gardner
 

I haven't been able to invoke forms mode in jaws 15 ever since installing jaws 17. I know that the functionality of forms mode is a bit different in jaws 17 and figured something got corrupted. I'm running Windows 7 and I.E.11 and have this same on both my work and personal laptops. It's not a solution, but sort of nice to know it isn't just me.


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On Jan 17, 2016, at 11:05 PM, ptusing <ptusing@...> wrote:

Hi,

Please indicate if   one can  enter text into edit fields using

I E 11 with

JAWS 15,

Latest JAWS 16 and

JAWS 17 version?

The   imput on   This great list and the excellent posts here can give people

An idea as to how prevalent a problem is so a solution can be hopefully found.

 

I really do appreciate it when a JAWS user spends hours of time working with F S as Tom did  to  get a problem solved.


Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

Gerald Levy
 

The problem with this "new" captcha solving service is that it is not cheap. They charge $3.50 per month for unlimited use versus Rumola's cost of only 99 cents for 50 captcha credits which are good for a whole year. So Captcha Be Gone costs $42 a year while Rumola only costs 99 cents a year. Plus, Captcha Be Gone only works with Firefox and Chrome, not with IE, while Rumola works with all three browsers. For now, the winner is still Rumola, hands down.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:15 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

What's been making the rounds the past few days is a new captcha service
called Captcha Be Gone.
http://captchabegone.com/
It's being developed by the same guy who puts out Chicken Nugget and QReader
and so on.
Looks like it'll initially support Firefox and Chrome with a monthly cost of
$3.50.
I don't run into too many captchas, but if it ends up working as advertized,
then at least it would be another option. Folks will have to decide if the
cost is worth it for them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:26 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working
with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?


Eric Damery, FS Vice-President of Software Development has already asserted
on the JAWS Users mailing list that adding an image captcha-solving feature
to JAWS presents insurmountable technical challenges at this time.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 4:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working
with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

I've written Freedom Scientific about this issue and asked them if they
would consider adding something to Jaws that would solve captchas. As
usual all they said was that the information was forwarded to their
technical team.
Will this have any affect? You never know. But I'm also quite sure
that I am not the only one who wrote to them and asked the same thing.
It would be nice if they would. It would solve a lot of headaches!

On 1/17/2016 3:33 PM, Mario wrote:
Gerald, I think it's inevitable that web visum is going to be lost, since
it is recommended not to continue to use an outdated version of firefox.
it is possible that Mozilla's ADO (forgot what ADO stands for) team who
can sign extensions that are abandond but essentially beneficial for a
particular reason, that being, that since the developers of web visum have
abandoned the extension, and wv does serve a purpose of enabling blind
users to solve CAPTCHAs, and there is no other plugin that can do what wv
did, they should sign it so we can still solve CAPTCHAs that some websites
still employ.


On 1/17/2016 1:31 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

It is Mozilla that is concerned about unsigned add-ons. Apparently,
unsigned add-ons have been used to introduce malware into Firefox, and
so Mozilla now requires that all developers of third-party add-ons sign
them to comply with the former's security standards and verify that they
are free of malware. . The developers of Webvisum abandoned it years
ago, and so there is no way to contact them and implore them to sign it
to bring it up to snuff. And starting with Firefox 44 or 45, Webvisum
and all other unsined add-ons will no longer work because the config
entry to enable them will be permanently removed. So once you have
Firefox 43 working with Webvisum, it would be a good idea to uncheck the
box on the advanced tab of the tools menu that allows Firefox to update
itself automatically. Otherwise,you will be automatically updated to
Firefox 44 and 45 and lose Webvisum forever.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:40 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not
working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

Hi, Mario. I have never understood this issue concerning unsigned AdOns.
If
a person makes the change to allow all unsigned AdOns to run, and they
are
afraid of running another unsigned AdOn, all they need to do is uninstall
the AdOn or plugin which they don't want to run. That is what the AdOns
manager is for.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not
working
with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?


in addition, there is a change that can be made in firefox's
configuration settings that can allow unsigned extensions to run, but
that allows, any, unsigned extension/plugin to run, thus defeating
mozillas attempt to improve firefox's security.
it's been suggested to use an earlier portable version of firefox (42)
and adding web visum, and use that version when you need to solve
captchas.


On 1/17/2016 11:09 AM, Mario wrote:
David, since I've upgraded firefox to 43.0.4, web visum is working okay
for me. but some other blind users are experiencing that they can't get
wv to install for them. the problem is more of a security issue in that
wv is not digitally signed. however in my case, before upgrading firefox
to the latest version, web visum was set to automatically start and log
me in when ff was started. maybe that's why my web visum is still
working okay.


On 1/16/2016 8:28 PM, David Ingram wrote:
Hi list members, I’d like to know whether the problem of webvisum not
working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed yet? I’d
like
to let firefox know of this problem but I’m not sure how I would do
that
or if they would be able to respond to this request in a timely manner.
Thank you for any information that you might have concerning this
question.









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Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

Gerald Levy
 

Yes, absolutely. Rumola works perfectly with IE. You simply place the Rumola app in the IE favorites bar, and whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha, you launch it from the favorites bar, and it will place the captcha result in the correct edit field automatically. Trust me. I know it works with IE because I have tested it extensively. Last week, for instance, I unexpectedly encountered a captcha on the log-in page for the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance. I simply pressed Control-I to launch the IE favorites list, scrolled to the favorites bar, launched Rumola, and almost instantaneously, the captcha result was placed in the correct edit field. That's all there is to it.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:05 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

Are you sure that Rumola works with Internet Explorer?
From the information I found, it works with Firefox, Chrome, and Safari, but says nothing about Internet Explorer.

Chris


On Jan 17, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net> wrote:

Rumola


Re: IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Amit Aggarwal <aggarwal.amit444@...>
 

Hi Tom,
I'm working with IE11 on windows8.1 and JAWS17
But I couldn't found any issues.
Have you tried re-installing JAWS?
Firefox is a good browser, but IE is great.
Also, witch OS are you using?
Let's see if this problem can be fixed.
Regards,
Amit


On 1/18/2016 1:30 AM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE 10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I access.

 

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and install IE 11.

 

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

 

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

 

However, this is where the good news ends.

 

I’m now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last summer.  I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into edit boxes, and she tells me that my main  cursor does not move when I try to do so.  As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not entered into the web form.  I have Jaws set to manually enter forms mode, so I know I’m in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding click whenever I hit enter.

 

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars  are disabled, but so far, no joy!

 

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific  Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff, and with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we could never solve the issue.

 

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that works fine!

 

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please send them my way.

 

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 



Re: Word 2013 Blank Page

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, Rayette. Can you or anyone else explain when "alt-n, n, p" would be needed in lieu of control-enter to create a new page. I can't think of a situation. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rayette Rucker [mailto:ruckerr9@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:18 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Word 2013 Blank Page

Alt n, n, p


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Smith [mailto:briansmith372@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 7:11 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Word 2013 Blank Page

Hello:

How can I insert a blank page into a Word 2013 document? Is there a
keyboard command that I can use to insert a blank page into a Word 2013
document? Thanks for any help.

Brian Smith