Mario:

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but what would taking this step
do to solve the particular problem I'm having?

Again, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind certain
steps before I actually take them.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message----- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re:
IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tom, I noticed after I upgraded to IE11, the auto complete settings
wer enabled, especially for the address bar. you might try unchecking
this setting:

press alt, t for tools, o for options. control+tab 4 or 5 times to the
contents tab. press alt+i to activate the auto complete settings
button. first checkbox should be unchecked. tab to and spacebar on the
ok button.

I've unchecked all of the autocomplete settings, including the ones in
the advanced tab (found about half way down the dialog).



On 1/17/2016 3:00 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE
10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in
terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I
access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites
had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder
as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last
summer. I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into
edit boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when
I try to do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not
entered into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms
mode, so I know I'm in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding
click whenever I hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff,
and with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we
could never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that
works fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please
send them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

Mario:

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but what would taking this step
do to solve the particular problem I'm having?

Again, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind certain
steps before I actually take them.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message----- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re:
IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tom, I noticed after I upgraded to IE11, the auto complete settings
wer enabled, especially for the address bar. you might try unchecking
this setting:

press alt, t for tools, o for options. control+tab 4 or 5 times to the
contents tab. press alt+i to activate the auto complete settings
button. first checkbox should be unchecked. tab to and spacebar on the
ok button.

I've unchecked all of the autocomplete settings, including the ones in
the advanced tab (found about half way down the dialog).



On 1/17/2016 3:00 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE
10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in
terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I
access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites
had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder
as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last
summer. I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into
edit boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when
I try to do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not
entered into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms
mode, so I know I'm in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding
click whenever I hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff,
and with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we
could never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that
works fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please
send them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

No, I haven't done this.

Question: If I do this, will I loose my internet favorites?

I have saved my favorites folder just in case, but would like to avoid how
to figure out how to import my favorites into IE again if possible.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: HH. Smith Jr. [mailto:teos1@islands.vi]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:15 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Have you tried resetting IE11 by going to tools then options then control
tab to the advance tab and choosing either reset default settings or reset
IE11 entirely.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 9:10 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

well, I thought IE might be thinking you want to search for an address and
thus interfering with what you want to do?

On 1/17/2016 7:46 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Mario:

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but what would taking this step
do to solve the particular problem I'm having?

Again, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind certain
steps before I actually take them.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message----- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re:
IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tom, I noticed after I upgraded to IE11, the auto complete settings
wer enabled, especially for the address bar. you might try unchecking
this setting:

press alt, t for tools, o for options. control+tab 4 or 5 times to the
contents tab. press alt+i to activate the auto complete settings
button. first checkbox should be unchecked. tab to and spacebar on the
ok button.

I've unchecked all of the autocomplete settings, including the ones in
the advanced tab (found about half way down the dialog).



On 1/17/2016 3:00 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE
10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in
terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I
access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites
had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder
as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last
summer. I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into
edit boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when
I try to do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not
entered into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms
mode, so I know I'm in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding
click whenever I hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff,
and with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we
could never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that
works fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please
send them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

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Mario:

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but what would taking this step
do to solve the particular problem I'm having?

Again, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind certain
steps before I actually take them.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message----- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re:
IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tom, I noticed after I upgraded to IE11, the auto complete settings
wer enabled, especially for the address bar. you might try unchecking
this setting:

press alt, t for tools, o for options. control+tab 4 or 5 times to the
contents tab. press alt+i to activate the auto complete settings
button. first checkbox should be unchecked. tab to and spacebar on the
ok button.

I've unchecked all of the autocomplete settings, including the ones in
the advanced tab (found about half way down the dialog).



On 1/17/2016 3:00 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE
10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in
terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I
access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites
had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder
as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last
summer. I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into
edit boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when
I try to do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not
entered into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms
mode, so I know I'm in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding
click whenever I hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff,
and with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we
could never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that
works fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please
send them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE 10 to
IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in terms of
being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites had
all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder as a
back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last summer.
I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into edit
boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when I try to
do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not entered
into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms mode, so I
know I'm in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding click whenever I
hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff, and
with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we could
never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that works
fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please send
them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

Mario:

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but what would taking this step
do to solve the particular problem I'm having?

Again, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind certain
steps before I actually take them.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message----- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re:
IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tom, I noticed after I upgraded to IE11, the auto complete settings
wer enabled, especially for the address bar. you might try unchecking
this setting:

press alt, t for tools, o for options. control+tab 4 or 5 times to the
contents tab. press alt+i to activate the auto complete settings
button. first checkbox should be unchecked. tab to and spacebar on the
ok button.

I've unchecked all of the autocomplete settings, including the ones in
the advanced tab (found about half way down the dialog).



On 1/17/2016 3:00 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE
10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in
terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I
access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites
had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder
as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last
summer. I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into
edit boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when
I try to do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not
entered into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms
mode, so I know I'm in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding
click whenever I hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff,
and with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we
could never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that
works fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please
send them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

Hi,

First,  Tom I believe you               , because you are not the first person to post the same problem

Entering  text into   edit fields using I E 11.

Last Fall, I remember listening as to how F S claimed how easy it is to enter text into

Editfields using JAWS 17.

Obviously, they were  using I E 11 or  maybe not, in their demonstration

Accessing  edit fields.

When I  asked F S  about entering text into editfields using I E 11 or if there were any  known issues with I E 11;

I  was told no one had heard of any issues with I E 11.

I mention this as 3 months ago,  people had mentioned issues with Adobe and JAWS 16& 17; F S said there were no issues there.

Very recently , according to a person I spoke with from  Microsoft Disability help desk, the latter  issue is a known issue.

So if  there  are other issues with I E 11,

Please raise them Here as this helps all of us.

I have also heard that Microsoft plans to dump I E.

the

Disability help desk says otherwise.

Is  F S beefing up its supportfor I E 11?

Thank you.

Mario:

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but what would taking this step
do to solve the particular problem I'm having?

Again, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind certain
steps before I actually take them.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message----- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re:
IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tom, I noticed after I upgraded to IE11, the auto complete settings
wer enabled, especially for the address bar. you might try unchecking
this setting:

press alt, t for tools, o for options. control+tab 4 or 5 times to the
contents tab. press alt+i to activate the auto complete settings
button. first checkbox should be unchecked. tab to and spacebar on the
ok button.

I've unchecked all of the autocomplete settings, including the ones in
the advanced tab (found about half way down the dialog).



On 1/17/2016 3:00 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE
10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in
terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I
access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites
had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder
as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last
summer. I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into
edit boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when
I try to do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not
entered into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms
mode, so I know I'm in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding
click whenever I hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff,
and with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we
could never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that
works fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please
send them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

Mario:

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but what would taking this step
do to solve the particular problem I'm having?

Again, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind certain
steps before I actually take them.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message----- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re:
IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tom, I noticed after I upgraded to IE11, the auto complete settings
wer enabled, especially for the address bar. you might try unchecking
this setting:

press alt, t for tools, o for options. control+tab 4 or 5 times to the
contents tab. press alt+i to activate the auto complete settings
button. first checkbox should be unchecked. tab to and spacebar on the
ok button.

I've unchecked all of the autocomplete settings, including the ones in
the advanced tab (found about half way down the dialog).



On 1/17/2016 3:00 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE
10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in
terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I
access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites
had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder
as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last
summer. I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into
edit boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when
I try to do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not
entered into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms
mode, so I know I'm in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding
click whenever I hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff,
and with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we
could never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that
works fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please
send them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

Mario:

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but what would taking this step
do to solve the particular problem I'm having?

Again, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind certain
steps before I actually take them.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message----- From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re:
IE 11 Successfully Installed Here, Well, Sort Of

Tom, I noticed after I upgraded to IE11, the auto complete settings
wer enabled, especially for the address bar. you might try unchecking
this setting:

press alt, t for tools, o for options. control+tab 4 or 5 times to
the contents tab. press alt+i to activate the auto complete settings
button. first checkbox should be unchecked. tab to and spacebar on
the ok button.

I've unchecked all of the autocomplete settings, including the ones
in the advanced tab (found about half way down the dialog).



On 1/17/2016 3:00 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE
10 to IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in
terms of being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that
I access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to
no Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today,
and install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved
from the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go
well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites
had all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder
as a back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last
summer. I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text
into edit boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not
move when I try to do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text,
but it is not entered into the web form. I have Jaws set to
manually enter forms mode, so I know I'm in forms mode, since I get
the higher-sounding click whenever I hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are
disabled, but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom
Scientific Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility
hotline staff, and with another well-experienced Jaws user from
this list, and we could never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that
works fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please
send them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:44 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: google drive help

[Edited Message Follows]

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 03:45 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

it lacks the most important information of all...
the links themselves which allegedly hold all these wonderful gems.

 Mike,

          Freedom Scientific Free Webinars Page.  The Google Docs webinar link starts with those two words, so it should be simple to find.  It's broken into two parts and it would appear the first part really should mention setting up a Google Drive account and the second is working with Google Docs proper.

Brian

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Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE 10 to
IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in terms of
being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites had
all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder as a
back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I'm now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last summer.
I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into edit
boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when I try to
do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not entered
into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms mode, so I
know I'm in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding click whenever I
hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff, and
with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we could
never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that works
fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please send
them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

Hello, everyone.

As some of you may remember, I have been reluctant to move from IE 10 to
IE 11, because of problems I had last summer with IE 11 in terms of
being able to enter text into text boxes on web sites that I access.

However, since I now have been forced to upgrade to IE 11 due to no
Microsoft support for IE 10, I decided to take the leap today, and
install IE 11.

I installed IE 11 from the .exe file that I downloaded and saved from
the Microsoft web site, and the installation seemed to go well.

I also was pleasantly surprised to find that my internet favorites had
all been preserved, even though I had saved my favorites folder as a
back-up, in case something went wrong.

However, this is where the good news ends.

I’m now back to having the same text-entry problems I had last summer.
I had my sighted wife watch while I ttried entering text into edit
boxes, and she tells me that my main cursor does not move when I try to
do so. As I enter text, Jaws speaks the text, but it is not entered
into the web form. I have Jaws set to manually enter forms mode, so I
know I’m in forms mode, since I get the higher-sounding click whenever I
hit enter.

I have made sure all add-ons, extensions, and toolbars are disabled,
but so far, no joy!

Last summer when I had this issue, I worked with Freedom Scientific
Technical Support, with the Microsoft Accessibility hotline staff, and
with another well-experienced Jaws user from this list, and we could
never solve the issue.

At least I have Firefox now as my main internet browser, and that works
fine!

If anyone has any other suggestions of things for me to try, please send
them my way.

I am extremely frustrated with Internet Explorer at this point!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

On Jan 17, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net> wrote:

Rumola

Hi,

My college just created a google drive folder. I have my own google drive
folder, and I have the google drive folder on my desktop.

How can I put that shared folder into my folder that I have on my desktop,
so I can avoid the web based route.

Thanks.

Gerald, I think it's inevitable that web visum is going to be lost, since
it is recommended not to continue to use an outdated version of firefox.
it is possible that Mozilla's ADO (forgot what ADO stands for) team who
can sign extensions that are abandond but essentially beneficial for a
particular reason, that being, that since the developers of web visum have
abandoned the extension, and wv does serve a purpose of enabling blind
users to solve CAPTCHAs, and there is no other plugin that can do what wv
did, they should sign it so we can still solve CAPTCHAs that some websites

still employ.


On 1/17/2016 1:31 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

It is Mozilla that is concerned about unsigned add-ons. Apparently,
unsigned add-ons have been used to introduce malware into Firefox, and
so Mozilla now requires that all developers of third-party add-ons sign
them to comply with the former's security standards and verify that they
are free of malware. . The developers of Webvisum abandoned it years
ago, and so there is no way to contact them and implore them to sign it
to bring it up to snuff. And starting with Firefox 44 or 45, Webvisum
and all other unsined add-ons will no longer work because the config
entry to enable them will be permanently removed. So once you have
Firefox 43 working with Webvisum, it would be a good idea to uncheck the
box on the advanced tab of the tools menu that allows Firefox to update
itself automatically. Otherwise,you will be automatically updated to
Firefox 44 and 45 and lose Webvisum forever.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:40 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not
working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

Hi, Mario. I have never understood this issue concerning unsigned AdOns.
If
a person makes the change to allow all unsigned AdOns to run, and they
are
afraid of running another unsigned AdOn, all they need to do is uninstall
the AdOn or plugin which they don't want to run. That is what the AdOns
manager is for.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not
working
with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?


in addition, there is a change that can be made in firefox's
configuration settings that can allow unsigned extensions to run, but
that allows, any, unsigned extension/plugin to run, thus defeating
mozillas attempt to improve firefox's security.
it's been suggested to use an earlier portable version of firefox (42)
and adding web visum, and use that version when you need to solve
captchas.


On 1/17/2016 11:09 AM, Mario wrote:

David, since I've upgraded firefox to 43.0.4, web visum is working okay
for me. but some other blind users are experiencing that they can't get
wv to install for them. the problem is more of a security issue in that
wv is not digitally signed. however in my case, before upgrading firefox
to the latest version, web visum was set to automatically start and log
me in when ff was started. maybe that's why my web visum is still
working okay.


On 1/16/2016 8:28 PM, David Ingram wrote:

Hi list members, I'd like to know whether the problem of webvisum not
working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed yet? I'd
like
to let firefox know of this problem but I'm not sure how I would do
that
or if they would be able to respond to this request in a timely manner.
Thank you for any information that you might have concerning this
question.

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Gerald, I think it's inevitable that web visum is going to be lost, since
it is recommended not to continue to use an outdated version of firefox.
it is possible that Mozilla's ADO (forgot what ADO stands for) team who
can sign extensions that are abandond but essentially beneficial for a
particular reason, that being, that since the developers of web visum have
abandoned the extension, and wv does serve a purpose of enabling blind
users to solve CAPTCHAs, and there is no other plugin that can do what wv
did, they should sign it so we can still solve CAPTCHAs that some websites

still employ.


On 1/17/2016 1:31 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

It is Mozilla that is concerned about unsigned add-ons. Apparently,
unsigned add-ons have been used to introduce malware into Firefox, and
so Mozilla now requires that all developers of third-party add-ons sign
them to comply with the former's security standards and verify that they
are free of malware. . The developers of Webvisum abandoned it years
ago, and so there is no way to contact them and implore them to sign it
to bring it up to snuff. And starting with Firefox 44 or 45, Webvisum
and all other unsined add-ons will no longer work because the config
entry to enable them will be permanently removed. So once you have
Firefox 43 working with Webvisum, it would be a good idea to uncheck the
box on the advanced tab of the tools menu that allows Firefox to update
itself automatically. Otherwise,you will be automatically updated to
Firefox 44 and 45 and lose Webvisum forever.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:40 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not
working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?

Hi, Mario. I have never understood this issue concerning unsigned AdOns.
If
a person makes the change to allow all unsigned AdOns to run, and they
are
afraid of running another unsigned AdOn, all they need to do is uninstall
the AdOn or plugin which they don't want to run. That is what the AdOns
manager is for.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether the problem with webvisum not
working
with the latest version of firefox has been fixed?


in addition, there is a change that can be made in firefox's
configuration settings that can allow unsigned extensions to run, but
that allows, any, unsigned extension/plugin to run, thus defeating
mozillas attempt to improve firefox's security.
it's been suggested to use an earlier portable version of firefox (42)
and adding web visum, and use that version when you need to solve
captchas.


On 1/17/2016 11:09 AM, Mario wrote:

David, since I've upgraded firefox to 43.0.4, web visum is working okay
for me. but some other blind users are experiencing that they can't get
wv to install for them. the problem is more of a security issue in that
wv is not digitally signed. however in my case, before upgrading firefox
to the latest version, web visum was set to automatically start and log
me in when ff was started. maybe that's why my web visum is still
working okay.


On 1/16/2016 8:28 PM, David Ingram wrote:

Hi list members, I’d like to know whether the problem of webvisum not
working with the latest version of firefox has been fixed yet? I’d
like
to let firefox know of this problem but I’m not sure how I would do
that
or if they would be able to respond to this request in a timely manner.
Thank you for any information that you might have concerning this
question.

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
signature
database 12882 (20160117) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com




__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
signature database 12882 (20160117) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com