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Re: Windows10 calculator

Elise Berkley
 

Hey, Brian.  Thank you.  I think I will try to work with FS and see what they say about JAWS working with this program.  I will definitely let the group know what I find out.
Elise


Re: IMazilla and facebook

Kimber Gardner
 

This is just a guess, but I'm thinking it's facebook. FB seems to
decidre, in a sort of random fashion, which posts it's going to show
you on any given day. Well, they probably have an algorithm,m but who
knows what that may be?

On 1/14/16, judith bron <jbron@optonline.net> wrote:
I have the same problem. Is it Jaws? Facebook or Firefox?

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Garrow [mailto:garrowjt@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:13 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: IMazilla and facebook

Carolyn,

I have the same problem. Do you know if it is facebook or jaws? I have jaws
14 ie11.

Thanks,

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:36 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: IMazilla and facebook

You know, I don't get all the entries from people on my Facebook friend
list
like I used to. I have no idea why, and feel like there's no point
agonizing
over it; they just aren't all coming.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: IMazilla and facebook

I was able to access m.facebook.com using a link that a lister sent.
However when I was on the facebook site and pressed Control O and typed in
the address mazilla told me the address couldn't be found. Also I have a
feeling that not all my facebook messages are being displayed on the page.
Is there a way to save an address in a mazilla file so it can be accessed
easily?














--
Kimberly


Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Good analogy.  I remember my first screen reader just loved the function keys.  There was a simple pass key arrangement to pass non-VOS keys to the word processer, which happened to be
DisplayWrite 3.  The transparency thing didn’t work so well, and they would slug it out at Interrupt Vector 9.  A buddy of mine, who was a data analyst, passed me a simple mod to DisplayWrite’s central batch file, and man, what a difference!  After that, you couldn’t crash those programs with a hammer.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:44 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

 

Thanks to all for this fascinating exchange of ideas.

Laura, your question is not in any way dumb and it is very difficult to answer easily.  It's relatively easy for me to know the difference because I can literally see the Windows keyboard shortcuts "reveal themselves" as the sequences are hit, at least a large number of them.  I certainly, for instance, didn't know the keyboard sequence that was used in Windows Live Mail to do a message search in its entirety, particularly the ALT+i for the find now key, but as I work through the process the first time with the client at each step Windows (or the Windows program) shows the next character or characters that are part of the sequence, allowing me to build the entire sequence for inclusion in the step-by-step directions.

I am glad, though, to hear others saying that it is important to make this distinction.  The main reason it's important to me is that there is a huge set of Windows keyboard shortcuts, the three best known being Ctrl+C (copy), Ctrl+X (cut), and Ctrl+V (paste), that are used in precisely the same manner in more programs than I can count.  There are many more that fall into the "extended common" set of Windows keyboard shortcuts and I want my clients to understand that, if they're in a pinch, and they know how to do "process X" in "program Y" that they should at least try seeing if "process X" will get the same result in different Windows "program Z."

The same concept applies to the JAWS layer as well, since you use the same JAWS keyboard shortcuts to accomplish the same tasks in a wide array of Windows programs.

If you know the difference between the two, though, and you have that knowledge "in your bones" you can actually sometimes function if speech goes south at a given point in time and still complete at least the current thing you're trying to do like save a file.

Another reason it's important to know the difference is because sometimes assistive technology like JAWS, ZoomText, or the like "captures" what would be a Windows keyboard shortcut for it's own use.  My client gave an example of this last night, that he'd figured out on his own.  He generally uses either ZoomText or JAWS (much more JAWS these days) separately along with whatever Windows program he needs beneath it.  The other day he had ZoomText, plus JAWS, plus some Windows program open.  One of the commands that we always used to perform a function in that Windows program when JAWS was running alone suddenly wasn't working in the Windows program, and ZoomText was doing something he'd never seen before.  He figured out for himself that ZoomText had commandeered that particular command for its own use and, thus, was not passed along to the Windows program running beneath it for processing.

I use the analogy of the various programs being like separate sifting screens stacked one atop the other.  The screen readers and other assistive technology are always the topmost screen.  They get every blessed keystroke you hit passed through them first, and these programs get to interpret those first, so if a keystroke sequence is considered a command by JAWS, for instance, JAWS does it's thing with that sequence and nothing from it sifts through to the program that is "the next sifting screen down."  Then, all of the keystroke sequences that JAWS didn't snag as its own get passed down to the next sifting screen, and for the purposes of this narrative lets say that's ZoomText.  Now ZoomText gets "first crack" at interpreting the sequences that have passed into its hands, and acts on any of those it recognizes as "my command."  Then whatever is left sifts through and falls into the screen that is the Windows program running below it for interpretation as commands it processes.  I think it's important for people to understand that there exists a hierarchy and that AT sits at the top of that heap and gets first crack at every keyboard input sequence to decide if it "belongs to me" before passing what remains on to the next guy.  Very often this may be irrelevant to doing what you want to do, but it can be key to understanding why "things that used to work" may work no longer if some other AT program gets added to the mix that ends up siphoning off commands that used to be passed through to other programs, so those other programs never see them.

Heavens, but the above seems awfully wordy, but I really can't think of a short way to describe the conceptual framework of program layers and that knowing about it can make sudden changes in behavior on your system a bit more understandable when new stuff enters the mix of programs running at the same time.

Brian 


Re: IMazilla and facebook

judith bron
 

I have the same problem. Is it Jaws? Facebook or Firefox?

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Garrow [mailto:garrowjt@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:13 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: IMazilla and facebook

Carolyn,

I have the same problem. Do you know if it is facebook or jaws? I have jaws
14 ie11.

Thanks,

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:36 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: IMazilla and facebook

You know, I don't get all the entries from people on my Facebook friend list
like I used to. I have no idea why, and feel like there's no point agonizing
over it; they just aren't all coming.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: IMazilla and facebook

I was able to access m.facebook.com using a link that a lister sent.
However when I was on the facebook site and pressed Control O and typed in
the address mazilla told me the address couldn't be found. Also I have a
feeling that not all my facebook messages are being displayed on the page.
Is there a way to save an address in a mazilla file so it can be accessed
easily?


Re: google ad frames

Adrian Spratt
 

Brad,

 

I finally installed AdBlock. I’m surprised no one has mentioned the query that comes up when you land on a page using IE11. When I pressed alt-n to identify my options, I got only two choices: something like review add-ons and ask me later. But when I put focus on the “ask me later” button, I found it was one of those split affairs. Down arrow once, and there’s the option not to disable, on which I pressed enter.

 

As this notice warned, AdBlock does slow down the loading of pages, at least when IE11 is the browser.

 

From: Brad Martin [mailto:brad@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: google ad frames

 

Are you sure resetting IE didn't disable your add-ons? Try reinstalling Adblock Plus. www.adblockplus.com

Brad

On 1/13/2016 12:30 AM, Kimsan wrote:

I had an internet problem, so the way my brain works is that when I can’t figure out how to fix it, lol, I just undo everything.

Long story short, I ended up restoring internet settings back to its original state.  After that I’m noticing on certain webpages, jaws just bounces everywhere.  Meaning, I can read half of a story on the news or a blog then bam, jaws moves back to the top of the page or elsewhere.  Oh, let me relate this post to the subject line, I’m seeing more and more google adframes which I didn’t before I reset IE. I have adblock plus so wouldn’t you venture to assume that would work? Iliminating the google adframes or at least hide them?

 


Re: IMazilla and facebook

Judy Garrow <garrowjt@...>
 

Carolyn,

I have the same problem. Do you know if it is facebook or jaws? I have jaws
14 ie11.

Thanks,

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:36 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: IMazilla and facebook

You know, I don't get all the entries from people on my Facebook friend list
like I used to. I have no idea why, and feel like there's no point agonizing
over it; they just aren't all coming.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@optonline.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: IMazilla and facebook

I was able to access m.facebook.com using a link that a lister sent.
However when I was on the facebook site and pressed Control O and typed in
the address mazilla told me the address couldn't be found. Also I have a
feeling that not all my facebook messages are being displayed on the page.
Is there a way to save an address in a mazilla file so it can be accessed
easily?


Re: google ad frames

Brad Martin
 

Are you sure resetting IE didn't disable your add-ons? Try reinstalling Adblock Plus. www.adblockplus.com

Brad

On 1/13/2016 12:30 AM, Kimsan wrote:

I had an internet problem, so the way my brain works is that when I can’t figure out how to fix it, lol, I just undo everything.

Long story short, I ended up restoring internet settings back to its original state.  After that I’m noticing on certain webpages, jaws just bounces everywhere.  Meaning, I can read half of a story on the news or a blog then bam, jaws moves back to the top of the page or elsewhere.  Oh, let me relate this post to the subject line, I’m seeing more and more google adframes which I didn’t before I reset IE. I have adblock plus so wouldn’t you venture to assume that would work? Iliminating the google adframes or at least hide them?



Re: Windows10 calculator

 

Elise,

        Your post has come across not unlike a cell phone call that's breaking up.  However, it appears that you are asking me about Microsoft Mathematics, and, if so, I can be of almost no help to you at all.  I've downloaded and installed the program just to see if it would be more JAWS user friendly as a basic calculator, and it most certainly is not.

         It may be (and appears like it would be) quite useful for a math major.  My last mathematics class was calculus three all the way back in the mid-1980s, so I've forgotten an awful lot about anything that goes beyond basic algebra.  

         There are five different calculator, and associated graphing, functions in Microsoft Math:  Standard, Calculus, Statistics, Trigonometry, and Linear Algebra.  It will deal with regular and complex numbers, there are functions for solving an equation or system of equations, and it doesn't end there. You would definitely need to work with someone who understands the area(s) you're interested in so that they can tell you whether what you're entering, and the results you're getting, are what they should be for the equations being entered.  The JAWS end of it should be "interesting" in that I don't really know how JAWS will interact with the various "buttons" that a sighted individual would just point and click to activate, but that I'm really not sure how they're implemented as programming objects.

          I'm sorry I can't offer much more than the above, but these sorts of calculations are so far out of my current range of understanding that I can't even really test out a lot of them.

Brian


Re: Windows10 calculator

Elise Berkley
 

Hello, Brian.  Elise here.  I have been following the posts regarding the calculator.  I am a math major, and this caught my attention.  I dowmost of the page, when I change to the JAWS cursor is graphics.  Am I doing something wrong to use this program with JAWS?  As I understand, I think you told the other lister that this program is accessible with JAWS.  thanx.
Elisenloaded MS Mathematics.  I do not see the number pad, and


Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

My understanding is that Freedom Scientific is aware of the problem and has informed Microsoft and awaits for Microsoft to fix the problem or give Freedom Scientific information on how to fix the problem.

I tried the suggestion of JAWS Key plus Escape and that didn't work. I'm running Win 10 and the latest build of JAWS 17.

Original message:

Probably I'll call Freedom Scientific tomorrow. If they are made more
aware of the issue, they might be more concerned about a solution.
Bye for now,
Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Chaffin [mailto:chaffin102468@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 6:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

I have had the same problem.
The way I have been doing it is I will just type the name and address on
a blank document, and then select it. Since the name and address is
selected, it will automatically populate that edit field to print an
envelope once you go to that screen.
Even though Jaws will not read anything in that field, it is actually
there.
I have been doing it this way ever since I have been using Office 2013.
Chris

On Jan 13, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
wrote:
The problem is that a lot of the time, I'm sending, for instance,
today, a small crocheted pouch. I guess I could have written a letter
to go with it; she knows that it is coming.
I just about wrecked my file whyile ago, but I was reading the thing.
However, when I tried to get out without printing, I had a time
getting out, then most of file gone; turned off computer, file back.
Bye for now,
Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!
The easiest way to do this is compose the letter first. Word then
fills in the fields automatically when you call for either n envelope
or mailing label.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!
I tried and tried on the envelope thing - routing JAWS to PC, routing
PC to JAWS, just plan PC cursor; I could not make it work. I feel like
calling Freedom Scientific and asking them what I am doing wrong?
Bye for now,
Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!
How do you do that. I could love that.
Cindy




From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: woohoo! envelopes 2013!


I'm not sure why I am so excited over this, but I'm able to fill out
the fields in 2013 for envelopes! I'm thinking jaws 17 is the savior,
as it didn't work with jaws 16!


Someone give me their address so I can write them a letter!


















Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Martin Blackwell
 

This is pretty much how I do it too. You don't even have to select the text.
If it is typed in a normal address format Word will pick it up.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Chaffin [mailto:chaffin102468@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!


I have had the same problem.
The way I have been doing it is I will just type the name and address on a
blank document, and then select it. Since the name and address is selected,
it will automatically populate that edit field to print an envelope once you
go to that screen.
Even though Jaws will not read anything in that field, it is actually there.

I have been doing it this way ever since I have been using Office 2013.

Chris


On Jan 13, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
wrote:

The problem is that a lot of the time, I'm sending, for instance,
today, a small crocheted pouch. I guess I could have written a letter
to go with it; she knows that it is coming.

I just about wrecked my file whyile ago, but I was reading the thing.
However, when I tried to get out without printing, I had a time
getting out, then most of file gone; turned off computer, file back.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

The easiest way to do this is compose the letter first. Word then
fills in the fields automatically when you call for either n envelope
or mailing label.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

I tried and tried on the envelope thing - routing JAWS to PC, routing
PC to JAWS, just plan PC cursor; I could not make it work. I feel like
calling Freedom Scientific and asking them what I am doing wrong?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

How do you do that. I could love that.

Cindy





From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



I'm not sure why I am so excited over this, but I'm able to fill out
the fields in 2013 for envelopes! I'm thinking jaws 17 is the savior,
as it didn't work with jaws 16!



Someone give me their address so I can write them a letter!













Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

James Bentley
 

Hello,

I did not read every single post on this subject so I hope I am not repeating unnecessary information. Here's how I address envelopes with NotePad and my Brother laser printer.

Open Notepad and go in to page set up from the file menu.

Select letter size for ten inch envelopes.

Select the landscape mode.

Type the first line of the sender's address and hit enter.

Hit enter after each line of the sender's address.

Then, hit enter five times and then, tab ten times and start typing the first line of the addressee.

Hit enter at the end of each line of the addressee and remember to tab over ten times before you start writing the text for a new line so the lines will line up.

For most Brother laser printers, you place the envelope with the flap down and on the left in to the envelope slot.

A similar procedure works for labels but I don't remember the exact number of lines and tabs to use. Also, it is possible to make an address label that can hold a packing slip with the above directions and just tape the envelope on to the box with Scotch tape.

HTH,

James Bentley

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Probably I'll call Freedom Scientific tomorrow. If they are made more
aware of the issue, they might be more concerned about a solution.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Chaffin [mailto:chaffin102468@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 6:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!


I have had the same problem.
The way I have been doing it is I will just type the name and address on
a blank document, and then select it. Since the name and address is
selected, it will automatically populate that edit field to print an
envelope once you go to that screen.
Even though Jaws will not read anything in that field, it is actually
there.

I have been doing it this way ever since I have been using Office 2013.

Chris


On Jan 13, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
wrote:

The problem is that a lot of the time, I'm sending, for instance,
today, a small crocheted pouch. I guess I could have written a letter
to go with it; she knows that it is coming.

I just about wrecked my file whyile ago, but I was reading the thing.
However, when I tried to get out without printing, I had a time
getting out, then most of file gone; turned off computer, file back.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

The easiest way to do this is compose the letter first. Word then
fills in the fields automatically when you call for either n envelope
or mailing label.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

I tried and tried on the envelope thing - routing JAWS to PC, routing
PC to JAWS, just plan PC cursor; I could not make it work. I feel like
calling Freedom Scientific and asking them what I am doing wrong?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

How do you do that. I could love that.

Cindy





From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



I'm not sure why I am so excited over this, but I'm able to fill out
the fields in 2013 for envelopes! I'm thinking jaws 17 is the savior,
as it didn't work with jaws 16!



Someone give me their address so I can write them a letter!













Re: google ad frames

Robert Logue
 

I'm seeing more ads in Firefox.  I tried today to remove some with Jaws 16 flexable web but got out of memory errors.

I wish the move to end of frame command would move to the next area that is not a frame.  I think there is a command for that.
Trying different combinations of s same and d different element. Try this page for example:
http://www.cnet.com/news/meet-the-new-champ-of-desktop-speakers-adam-audio-f5/

No main region on page with q.

This is not fun.

Bob

On 1/12/2016 11:30 PM, Kimsan wrote:

I had an internet problem, so the way my brain works is that when I can’t figure out how to fix it, lol, I just undo everything.

Long story short, I ended up restoring internet settings back to its original state.  After that I’m noticing on certain webpages, jaws just bounces everywhere.  Meaning, I can read half of a story on the news or a blog then bam, jaws moves back to the top of the page or elsewhere.  Oh, let me relate this post to the subject line, I’m seeing more and more google adframes which I didn’t before I reset IE. I have adblock plus so wouldn’t you venture to assume that would work? Iliminating the google adframes or at least hide them?



Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Probably I'll call Freedom Scientific tomorrow. If they are made more
aware of the issue, they might be more concerned about a solution.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Chaffin [mailto:chaffin102468@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 6:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!


I have had the same problem.
The way I have been doing it is I will just type the name and address on
a blank document, and then select it. Since the name and address is
selected, it will automatically populate that edit field to print an
envelope once you go to that screen.
Even though Jaws will not read anything in that field, it is actually
there.

I have been doing it this way ever since I have been using Office 2013.

Chris


On Jan 13, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
wrote:

The problem is that a lot of the time, I'm sending, for instance,
today, a small crocheted pouch. I guess I could have written a letter
to go with it; she knows that it is coming.

I just about wrecked my file whyile ago, but I was reading the thing.
However, when I tried to get out without printing, I had a time
getting out, then most of file gone; turned off computer, file back.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

The easiest way to do this is compose the letter first. Word then
fills in the fields automatically when you call for either n envelope
or mailing label.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

I tried and tried on the envelope thing - routing JAWS to PC, routing
PC to JAWS, just plan PC cursor; I could not make it work. I feel like
calling Freedom Scientific and asking them what I am doing wrong?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

How do you do that. I could love that.

Cindy





From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



I'm not sure why I am so excited over this, but I'm able to fill out
the fields in 2013 for envelopes! I'm thinking jaws 17 is the savior,
as it didn't work with jaws 16!



Someone give me their address so I can write them a letter!













Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Charles Coe
 

I am sure your mommy will be very pleased.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 1:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

I was able to read the fields.

Almost done writing my mommy. Work got in the way, but I'm going home soon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:56 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Good to write your mom. Could you read anything in those fields, or just
follow the prompts?

I tried and tried and could not read anything in the fields - plain cursor;
route JAWS to PC; PC to JAWS - no go with anything, could not read.


I sent an e-mail to the instructor at the Morehead Training Center in
Raleigh; I'll let yall know what she says. Otherwise, I might just call
Freedom Scientific. It could be that the more aware they are of the
situation, the more likely it can be corrected.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:11 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Cindy:

I put my envelope in the printer, word 2013 in my case is open, I press alt
m followed by e.

It then lands me in the delivery field, type that in, I tab 3 times to the
recipient address type that in, and then tab to print!



Since nobody gave me their address, I'm going to write my mommy a letter.
I have not seen her since July of 2015.

From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:01 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



How do you do that. I could love that.

Cindy





From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



I'm not sure why I am so excited over this, but I'm able to fill out the
fields in 2013 for envelopes! I'm thinking jaws 17 is the savior, as it
didn't work with jaws 16!



Someone give me their address so I can write them a letter!


Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Chris Chaffin
 

I have had the same problem.
The way I have been doing it is I will just type the name and address on a blank document, and then select it. Since the name and address is selected, it will automatically populate that edit field to print an envelope once you go to that screen.
Even though Jaws will not read anything in that field, it is actually there.

I have been doing it this way ever since I have been using Office 2013.

Chris

On Jan 13, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

The problem is that a lot of the time, I'm sending, for instance, today,
a small crocheted pouch. I guess I could have written a letter to go with
it; she knows that it is coming.

I just about wrecked my file whyile ago, but I was reading the thing.
However, when I tried to get out without printing, I had a time getting
out, then most of file gone; turned off computer, file back.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

The easiest way to do this is compose the letter first. Word then fills
in the fields automatically when you call for either n envelope or
mailing label.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

I tried and tried on the envelope thing - routing JAWS to PC, routing PC
to JAWS, just plan PC cursor; I could not make it work. I feel like
calling Freedom Scientific and asking them what I am doing wrong?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

How do you do that. I could love that.

Cindy





From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



I'm not sure why I am so excited over this, but I'm able to fill out the
fields in 2013 for envelopes! I'm thinking jaws 17 is the savior, as it
didn't work with jaws 16!



Someone give me their address so I can write them a letter!













Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

The problem is that a lot of the time, I'm sending, for instance, today,
a small crocheted pouch. I guess I could have written a letter to go with
it; she knows that it is coming.

I just about wrecked my file whyile ago, but I was reading the thing.
However, when I tried to get out without printing, I had a time getting
out, then most of file gone; turned off computer, file back.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

The easiest way to do this is compose the letter first. Word then fills
in the fields automatically when you call for either n envelope or
mailing label.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

I tried and tried on the envelope thing - routing JAWS to PC, routing PC
to JAWS, just plan PC cursor; I could not make it work. I feel like
calling Freedom Scientific and asking them what I am doing wrong?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

How do you do that. I could love that.

Cindy





From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



I'm not sure why I am so excited over this, but I'm able to fill out the
fields in 2013 for envelopes! I'm thinking jaws 17 is the savior, as it
didn't work with jaws 16!



Someone give me their address so I can write them a letter!


Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I was able to read the fields.

Almost done writing my mommy. Work got in the way, but I'm going home soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:56 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Good to write your mom. Could you read anything in those fields, or just
follow the prompts?

I tried and tried and could not read anything in the fields - plain cursor;
route JAWS to PC; PC to JAWS - no go with anything, could not read.


I sent an e-mail to the instructor at the Morehead Training Center in
Raleigh; I'll let yall know what she says. Otherwise, I might just call
Freedom Scientific. It could be that the more aware they are of the
situation, the more likely it can be corrected.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:11 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Cindy:

I put my envelope in the printer, word 2013 in my case is open, I press alt
m followed by e.

It then lands me in the delivery field, type that in, I tab 3 times to the
recipient address type that in, and then tab to print!



Since nobody gave me their address, I'm going to write my mommy a letter.
I have not seen her since July of 2015.

From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:01 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



How do you do that. I could love that.

Cindy





From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



I'm not sure why I am so excited over this, but I'm able to fill out the
fields in 2013 for envelopes! I'm thinking jaws 17 is the savior, as it
didn't work with jaws 16!



Someone give me their address so I can write them a letter!


Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

Johna Nordin <nordinjohnal@...>
 

Hello,
My name is Johna Gravitt and i am currently employed as an
accessibility consultant. What I do is test web pages to make sure
they meat the W3c standards. I use NVDA in my testing efforts and
it's very comperable to Jaws which i also use. if you'd like more
information please feel free to email me.
Johna

On 12/30/15, Maria Campbell <lucky1@ct.metrocast.net> wrote:
I use NVDA as a backup for when JAWS crashes.
For my purpose, it works fine, except for the inability to use place
markers on web pages.
One advantage I have is the use of Eloquence with NVDA, because it uses
the unlocked version that comes with Kurzweil. Otherwise, the NVDA
voice is not too pleasant to my ears.


On 12/30/2015 11:34 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Anyone who's been around here for more than the last few days and has
been reading my posts already knows I'm a sighted tutor who teaches
JAWS, among other assistive technology. I'm just throwing that out
there for our newest members.

As anyone who uses JAWS knows, it's a very expensive piece of software
and since Freedom Scientific does not offer any discount or free license
to people doing what I do (that I know of) there's no way I can justify
the expense.

I know that I can pick up a copy of NVDA, the open-source screen reader,
from nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> for free. I already have
fully functional (but without the high-end voice options) version of
WindowEyes as well.

What I'm wondering is how similar either one of these might be to JAWS?
A friend of mine is a WindowEyes user who can and does occasionally
use an older version of JAWS and she glides pretty effortlessly between
them and has said that a number of the commands used are the same.

There are those times when it would be handy to do some hands-on work by
myself in preparation for certain "relatively hairy" systems when I'm
going to be teaching someone to use those with JAWS, but since I can't
get a copy that remains active for just that purpose I was wondering if
either of these other two screen readers might be "parallel enough" to
be of some use in getting a feel for how JAWS will work with a given
website, etc.

Brian

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.




Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

The easiest way to do this is compose the letter first. Word then fills in the fields automatically when you call for either n envelope or mailing label.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

I tried and tried on the envelope thing - routing JAWS to PC, routing PC to JAWS, just plan PC cursor; I could not make it work. I feel like calling Freedom Scientific and asking them what I am doing wrong?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: woohoo! envelopes 2013!

How do you do that. I could love that.

Cindy





From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: woohoo! envelopes 2013!



I'm not sure why I am so excited over this, but I'm able to fill out the fields in 2013 for envelopes! I'm thinking jaws 17 is the savior, as it didn't work with jaws 16!



Someone give me their address so I can write them a letter!