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Re: unsubscribing

 

Jerome,

         Do you receive the Digest e-mail messages?  The second line in each of those is a direct link to the unsubscribe page.

Brian


Re: keyboard shortcuts

 

Judith,

        The link posted earlier today to the JAWS Users List Homepage is an absolute treasure trove of keyboard shortcuts, most of which are for various Windows programs, not JAWS proper.  Start noodling around in there and you should find enough material to act as a soporific on many a sleepless night (and learn something useful as part of the bargain).

Brian


unsubscribing

jsilverbus@...
 

Hi
How do I unsubscribe from the jfw user group?
Thanks, Jerome Silverbush


Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10

 

Jean,

            Actually, that makes perfect sense.  I had forgotten how Braille lays out things like tables (I haven't been dealing with it since 2011) when room is tight.  Carrying over the layout concepts to plain text makes perfect sense when that layout is customary to the intended audience.

Brian


Re: Problem installing IE11

Adrian Spratt
 

Some listers have asked off-list if the IE11 download page link I gave on Friday morning is the same as or different from the link posted later by Mario. I've just compared them, and they're identical.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/Internet-Explorer-11-for-Windows-7-details.aspx

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/Internet-Explorer-11-for-Windows-7-details.aspx

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 2:10 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem installing IE11

Brian, here it is. just follow the signs to download IE 11 for the OS
running from the computer or choose another configuration:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/Internet-Explorer-11-for-Windows-7-details.aspx

On 1/8/2016 12:52 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
The following is a serious, not snarky comment: If anyone can provide a
direct link, to a location within Microsoft's own website, that allows
you to download a stand-alone installer for Internet Explorer 11,
whether or not IE11 is the version on your system, I'd love to have it.

I have been digging through Microsoft's website and for any Windows 8 or
Windows 10 computer I'm on, if I visit the IE11 webpage it simply tells
me I have the latest version already installed and gives no additional
options. On a Windows 7 machine it gives you the upgrade option on the
site, which you click and it does download an installer, but when I last
ran it it did not appear to be an installer that one could or would
invoke separately from the web process.

I've run into multiple instances where IE11 either would not install, or
was already installed but had somehow become corrupted. I have yet to
come up with a satisfactory way to reinstall IE11 when that's needed.
If a stand alone install program exists and lets itself be run even if
IE11 is already on the system, and doesn't stop when it detects that but
does an "install over" install, that would be invaluable to have.

I think IE11 is still available only in a 32-bit version, but if they're
now doing 32-bit and 64-bit versions with separate installers I'd love
to have each of those.

Brian


keyboard shortcuts

judith bron
 

I may have missed it, but can someone post a list of key board shortcuts?  Blind folks don’t sleep the best through the night and long ago I started alphabetizing topics including keyboard shortcuts as a middle of the night soporific.  I would love to have more shortcuts to mentally review in the middle of the night not to mention make my day life easier!  Thanks, Judith


Re: Outlook 2016 Issue

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

I can still use the keystroke Ctrl-Y which is the Go to Folder command. I
can then use first letter navigation from there.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 2:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Issue

You have to Shift-Tab, then use first-letter navigation to go to folders in
Outlook.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 11:07 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Issue

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, but this is how to navigate into
a folder's message list. go down the list of folders with first-letter
navigation or the down arrow key. Once at the desired folder, press enter,
then tab to the list.



From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 9:39 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016 Issue



I am using Windows 10, Outlook 2016, and JAWS17. I have set up some folders,
originally hoping that I could get messages to go there. I never did, but I
could move things to those folders, thus not having so much in my in-box.
Now I can read the folders, but I can't enter any of them, nor can I enter
my Spam folder, sent folder-none of them. I was wondering what I ought to be
checking to see what is wrong. I've heard some messages come in that I can't
find; I'm not seeing messages from people I know have sent me some. It is
wearing out my patience.

Thanks for your help.

Cindy Lou Ray


Installing Windows 10 on a Del tablet

Tim Ford
 

Just adding a descriptive subject line.  “I have to ask again” conveys nothing!
 
Tim Ford
 
 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: I have to ask again
 

Yeah, James. 

I was afraid of going that route.  I guess what I don’t understand is that I bought the same tablet, even installed more programs than my friend did, and I didn’t have issues with installing Windows 10.  In fact, she bought it because she liked mine, so I had mine before she did.

I really don’t want to have to go this route, because I don’t know what I’m doing if I have to wipe a computer and reinstall.  I may not be able to help if this is the case.

Mine was so easy, and it was thanks to this list and some of you guys.

Jim

 

 

 

From: James Homuth [mailto:james@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 11:42 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: I have to ask again

 

Looks like the only way you're installing 10 on this is to wipe it and install it from scratch. Most of the consumed hard disk space is the operating system. It doesn't leave enough room for the files it needs to upgrade you.


From: Jim Portillo [mailto:portillo.jim@...]
Sent: January-09-16 2:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: I have to ask again

Hi Dave,

Thanks for asking, as I forgot to mention that. 

This is one of those little Dell 8.1 Venue tablets with 32 GB of ram disk space.  I’m told I only have 4 GB left.

 

It’s running a full version of Windows 8.1 at the moment; although, something had to be done to it to reset it back to factory standards because my friend (who is the owner) forgot her password and couldn’t get into it.  So, except for installing the programs, it’s not been used, but it did get reset to factory settings.

 

Question.  Could you explain what you meant about the partician?  You said the following.  Does that need to be fixed?

As to partitioning, it would be unusual for a computer out of the box to not have its primary partition set to be the maximum available hard disk space as a boot partition.

 

Thanks.  Jim

 

From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarlson@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 10:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: I have to ask again

 

Jim,

 

What are the specs (particularly hard disk space and RAM) for your Dell?

 

As to partitioning, it would be unusual for a computer out of the box to not have its primary partition set to be the maximum available hard disk space as a boot partition.

 

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Portillo

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 10:05 AM

Subject: I have to ask again

 

Hello,

 

I hope nobody gets tired of this question, but I need to find a good answer soon, and I am not quite sure what to do any more.  I am using JAWS 16 on a Dell Venue Tablet.  It has Windows 8.1.

I want to be able to upgrade it to Windows 10 but can’t seem to do that at this time because it says that there’s not enough memory for that.  That’s impossible because the only programs that have been installed (aside from the usual Dell ones) are MS Office and JAWS. 

When I check the memory, the thing it recommends is to delete some of the unnecessary apps.  That doesn’t really help, because those apps aren’t very big anyway.

It was suggested that the patrician might have something to do with this.  I am not sure how to check that or how to do something with it.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  I’m a technology user but not always a person who diagnoses things, but I do want this tablet on Windows 10, and I know it can be done.  There aren’t many programs on it.

If we really want to get technical (and I do ask questions) please write me off list.

Thanks so much!

Jim

 


Re: I have to ask again

Jim Portillo
 

Yeah, James. 

I was afraid of going that route.  I guess what I don’t understand is that I bought the same tablet, even installed more programs than my friend did, and I didn’t have issues with installing Windows 10.  In fact, she bought it because she liked mine, so I had mine before she did.

I really don’t want to have to go this route, because I don’t know what I’m doing if I have to wipe a computer and reinstall.  I may not be able to help if this is the case.

Mine was so easy, and it was thanks to this list and some of you guys.

Jim

 

 

 

From: James Homuth [mailto:james@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 11:42 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: I have to ask again

 

Looks like the only way you're installing 10 on this is to wipe it and install it from scratch. Most of the consumed hard disk space is the operating system. It doesn't leave enough room for the files it needs to upgrade you.


From: Jim Portillo [mailto:portillo.jim@...]
Sent: January-09-16 2:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: I have to ask again

Hi Dave,

Thanks for asking, as I forgot to mention that. 

This is one of those little Dell 8.1 Venue tablets with 32 GB of ram disk space.  I’m told I only have 4 GB left.

 

It’s running a full version of Windows 8.1 at the moment; although, something had to be done to it to reset it back to factory standards because my friend (who is the owner) forgot her password and couldn’t get into it.  So, except for installing the programs, it’s not been used, but it did get reset to factory settings.

 

Question.  Could you explain what you meant about the partician?  You said the following.  Does that need to be fixed?

As to partitioning, it would be unusual for a computer out of the box to not have its primary partition set to be the maximum available hard disk space as a boot partition.

 

Thanks.  Jim

 

From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarlson@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 10:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: I have to ask again

 

Jim,

 

What are the specs (particularly hard disk space and RAM) for your Dell?

 

As to partitioning, it would be unusual for a computer out of the box to not have its primary partition set to be the maximum available hard disk space as a boot partition.

 

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 10:05 AM

Subject: I have to ask again

 

Hello,

 

I hope nobody gets tired of this question, but I need to find a good answer soon, and I am not quite sure what to do any more.  I am using JAWS 16 on a Dell Venue Tablet.  It has Windows 8.1.

I want to be able to upgrade it to Windows 10 but can’t seem to do that at this time because it says that there’s not enough memory for that.  That’s impossible because the only programs that have been installed (aside from the usual Dell ones) are MS Office and JAWS. 

When I check the memory, the thing it recommends is to delete some of the unnecessary apps.  That doesn’t really help, because those apps aren’t very big anyway.

It was suggested that the patrician might have something to do with this.  I am not sure how to check that or how to do something with it.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  I’m a technology user but not always a person who diagnoses things, but I do want this tablet on Windows 10, and I know it can be done.  There aren’t many programs on it.

If we really want to get technical (and I do ask questions) please write me off list.

Thanks so much!

Jim

 


Re: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

Adrian Spratt
 

This message, posted by Gerald, may be what you need.

 

Firefox 43, the latest version, introduced a security feature that prevents unsigned, third-party add-ons like Webvisum from working. Follow these steps to get it to work with Firefox 43:

1.  Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with no spaces:

about:config

2.  You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' Click on  the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'

3.  tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are looking for the below item:

xpinstall.signatures.required

4.  When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and choose toggle or press T (same thing.)

5.  The highlighted value should change to false as in:

xpinstall.signatures.required;false

Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, Webvisum should work.

 

End of Gerald’s post. Let me add a caution: This change may reduce Firefox’s security protection.

 

From: David Ingram [mailto:dingram269@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

 

Hi list members, I’m having a problem with webvisum and I want to use the firefox theme.  My question is “is there a walk throu available for those who want to install this classic theme for firefox?  Thank you for any information that you might have.


Re: I have a dream

douglas richard dexheimer
 

in celebration of dr. king next weekend!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 1/9/2016 2:43 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
If I win the lotto tonight, I'm going to St. Petersburg to learn JAWS
scripting from Freedom Scientific. I will have my own personal trainer,
who will give me all the time I need to learn.
Yes, I have a dream.
Big smile.


Re: converting notes and editing mp3 files

Rayette Rucker
 

Have you tried Gold wave?

 

From: Jerry hathaway [mailto:jerry.hathaway2@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 3:56 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: converting notes and editing mp3 files

 

I am looking for a program that can onvert VR Stream notes file to MS Word document. I have a VRStream 1, and MS Word 10, and Jaws 16 on a windows 7 computer. I am also looking how to edit a mp3 files. Thank for any help you can give me.

 

Jerry

 


converting notes and editing mp3 files

Jerry hathaway
 

I am looking for a program that can onvert VR Stream notes file to MS Word document. I have a VRStream 1, and MS Word 10, and Jaws 16 on a windows 7 computer. I am also looking how to edit a mp3 files. Thank for any help you can give me.
 
Jerry
 


Re: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hello there,

What’s kind of classic theme you talking about ? This is my first time you mention about classic theme in firefox !! What version of firefox you have ? I have firefox version 43.0 with jaws 16 and have webvisum .

 

 

From: David Ingram [mailto:dingram269@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

 

Hi list members, I’m having a problem with webvisum and I want to use the firefox theme.  My question is “is there a walk throu available for those who want to install this classic theme for firefox?  Thank you for any information that you might have.




Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Hi Brian,
Well, maybe this makes sense. It says two columns, but is simply a list text format. But then a person knows how many items (lines) belong with each entry. This is similar to how wide tables might be done in braille if text won’t fit. You are told column headings, and then each (line) represents a column per se. Blank lines help with division of entries.
 
Does that make sense? That’s how I interpret it, anyway.
 
Jean
 
 
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10
 

Jean,

        I was not meaning to be critical in any way.  I really wondered how this stuff is typically accessed since the table is defined in words, there is no formatting whatsoever.  I've just never seen anything like this as far as a technical document goes, and it has to be this way because it works better for its intended audience.

        As I'm inclined to say, "It's not all about you," where the "you" is "me" in this context.

Brian


Re: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

Adrian Spratt
 

I believe you’re responding to a distracting message that was posted last week. Contrary to the impression that message created, there’s no connection between Webvisum accessibility and this theme. someone else correct me if I’m wrong. Instead, you might be seeking the workaround instructions that Gerald posted earlier.

 

From: David Ingram [mailto:dingram269@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

 

Hi list members, I’m having a problem with webvisum and I want to use the firefox theme.  My question is “is there a walk throu available for those who want to install this classic theme for firefox?  Thank you for any information that you might have.


I'm having a problem with webvisum!

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, I’m having a problem with webvisum and I want to use the firefox theme.  My question is “is there a walk throu available for those who want to install this classic theme for firefox?  Thank you for any information that you might have.


Re: I have a dream

Gerald Levy
 

Maria, if you win the $900 million lottery drawing tonight, you can buy FS, lock, stock and barrel and run the whole freakin' company yourself as you see fit. LOL!

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 3:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I have a dream

If I win the lotto tonight, I'm going to St. Petersburg to learn JAWS
scripting from Freedom Scientific. I will have my own personal trainer,
who will give me all the time I need to learn.
Yes, I have a dream.
Big smile.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

                Hi Brian,

 

Thanks for sharing this link. I have downloaded the zip file and now have it on my victor reader. I can now follow it without having to deal with switching between apps.

 

Thanks again for all your help.

 

Barbara Hansen

 


I have a dream

Maria Campbell
 

If I win the lotto tonight, I'm going to St. Petersburg to learn JAWS scripting from Freedom Scientific. I will have my own personal trainer, who will give me all the time I need to learn.
Yes, I have a dream.
Big smile.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.

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