Date   

Re: converting notes and editing mp3 files

Rayette Rucker
 

Have you tried Gold wave?

 

From: Jerry hathaway [mailto:jerry.hathaway2@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 3:56 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: converting notes and editing mp3 files

 

I am looking for a program that can onvert VR Stream notes file to MS Word document. I have a VRStream 1, and MS Word 10, and Jaws 16 on a windows 7 computer. I am also looking how to edit a mp3 files. Thank for any help you can give me.

 

Jerry

 


converting notes and editing mp3 files

Jerry hathaway
 

I am looking for a program that can onvert VR Stream notes file to MS Word document. I have a VRStream 1, and MS Word 10, and Jaws 16 on a windows 7 computer. I am also looking how to edit a mp3 files. Thank for any help you can give me.
 
Jerry
 


Re: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hello there,

What’s kind of classic theme you talking about ? This is my first time you mention about classic theme in firefox !! What version of firefox you have ? I have firefox version 43.0 with jaws 16 and have webvisum .

 

 

From: David Ingram [mailto:dingram269@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

 

Hi list members, I’m having a problem with webvisum and I want to use the firefox theme.  My question is “is there a walk throu available for those who want to install this classic theme for firefox?  Thank you for any information that you might have.




Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Hi Brian,
Well, maybe this makes sense. It says two columns, but is simply a list text format. But then a person knows how many items (lines) belong with each entry. This is similar to how wide tables might be done in braille if text won’t fit. You are told column headings, and then each (line) represents a column per se. Blank lines help with division of entries.
 
Does that make sense? That’s how I interpret it, anyway.
 
Jean
 
 

Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10
 

Jean,

        I was not meaning to be critical in any way.  I really wondered how this stuff is typically accessed since the table is defined in words, there is no formatting whatsoever.  I've just never seen anything like this as far as a technical document goes, and it has to be this way because it works better for its intended audience.

        As I'm inclined to say, "It's not all about you," where the "you" is "me" in this context.

Brian


Re: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

Adrian Spratt
 

I believe you’re responding to a distracting message that was posted last week. Contrary to the impression that message created, there’s no connection between Webvisum accessibility and this theme. someone else correct me if I’m wrong. Instead, you might be seeking the workaround instructions that Gerald posted earlier.

 

From: David Ingram [mailto:dingram269@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I'm having a problem with webvisum!

 

Hi list members, I’m having a problem with webvisum and I want to use the firefox theme.  My question is “is there a walk throu available for those who want to install this classic theme for firefox?  Thank you for any information that you might have.


I'm having a problem with webvisum!

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, I’m having a problem with webvisum and I want to use the firefox theme.  My question is “is there a walk throu available for those who want to install this classic theme for firefox?  Thank you for any information that you might have.


Re: I have a dream

Gerald Levy
 

Maria, if you win the $900 million lottery drawing tonight, you can buy FS, lock, stock and barrel and run the whole freakin' company yourself as you see fit. LOL!

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 3:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I have a dream

If I win the lotto tonight, I'm going to St. Petersburg to learn JAWS
scripting from Freedom Scientific. I will have my own personal trainer,
who will give me all the time I need to learn.
Yes, I have a dream.
Big smile.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

                Hi Brian,

 

Thanks for sharing this link. I have downloaded the zip file and now have it on my victor reader. I can now follow it without having to deal with switching between apps.

 

Thanks again for all your help.

 

Barbara Hansen

 


I have a dream

Maria Campbell
 

If I win the lotto tonight, I'm going to St. Petersburg to learn JAWS scripting from Freedom Scientific. I will have my own personal trainer, who will give me all the time I need to learn.
Yes, I have a dream.
Big smile.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10

 

Jean,

        I was not meaning to be critical in any way.  I really wondered how this stuff is typically accessed since the table is defined in words, there is no formatting whatsoever.  I've just never seen anything like this as far as a technical document goes, and it has to be this way because it works better for its intended audience.

        As I'm inclined to say, "It's not all about you," where the "you" is "me" in this context.

Brian


Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Hi Brian,
 
I’ve seen this format used often in various screenreader manuals. Personally, I think it works fine. It would be accessible to any adaptive technology and any word editor. Maybe not sighted-friendly, but very useful without clutter in my opinion. Just my two cents.
 
Jean

Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: need guidance on navigating in windows 10
 
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 06:47 am, Negoslav Sabev wrote:
Perhaps this will help.

Now, perhaps, is an opportunity to further my own education.  I went to this website, and the content is fabulous, but it's also not set up for sighted people (nor should it be, but I'm just saying).  I downloaded several of the "collections of all these in a single ZIP file" and unzipped same.  What follows is a straight paste from the file related to the Address Bar as it opens in Notepad on my computer:

---------------------------

Address bar

Summary: These shortcuts are for using the Address bar.

 

table with 2 columns and 8 rows

To do this

Press this

 

Add www. to the beginning and .com to the end of text typed in the Address bar

 

Ctrl+Enter

 

Display a list of addresses you've typed

 

F4

 

In the Address bar, move the cursor left to the next break in the sentence

 

Ctrl+Left arrow

 

In the Address bar, move the cursor right to the next break in the sentence

 

Ctrl+Right arrow

 

Move backward through the list of AutoComplete matches

 

Down arrow

 

Move forward through the list of AutoComplete matches

 

Up arrow

 

Select the text in the Address bar

 

Alt+D

table end

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Clearly this file is not really intended to be read as plain text, but has instructions in it noting that you have a table with two columns and eight rows, with the two columns having headings of, "To do this," and, "Press this."

What program is a file formatted in this manner typically displayed, or perhaps displayed and read, using?   I can figure it out well enough, but this Notepad presentation wouldn't be a user-friendly way to read through it for anyone.

Brian


Re: I have to ask again

James Homuth
 

Looks like the only way you're installing 10 on this is to wipe it and install it from scratch. Most of the consumed hard disk space is the operating system. It doesn't leave enough room for the files it needs to upgrade you.


From: Jim Portillo [mailto:portillo.jim@...]
Sent: January-09-16 2:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: I have to ask again

Hi Dave,

Thanks for asking, as I forgot to mention that. 

This is one of those little Dell 8.1 Venue tablets with 32 GB of ram disk space.  I’m told I only have 4 GB left.

 

It’s running a full version of Windows 8.1 at the moment; although, something had to be done to it to reset it back to factory standards because my friend (who is the owner) forgot her password and couldn’t get into it.  So, except for installing the programs, it’s not been used, but it did get reset to factory settings.

 

Question.  Could you explain what you meant about the partician?  You said the following.  Does that need to be fixed?

As to partitioning, it would be unusual for a computer out of the box to not have its primary partition set to be the maximum available hard disk space as a boot partition.

 

Thanks.  Jim

 

From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarlson@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 10:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: I have to ask again

 

Jim,

 

What are the specs (particularly hard disk space and RAM) for your Dell?

 

As to partitioning, it would be unusual for a computer out of the box to not have its primary partition set to be the maximum available hard disk space as a boot partition.

 

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Portillo

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 10:05 AM

Subject: I have to ask again

 

Hello,

 

I hope nobody gets tired of this question, but I need to find a good answer soon, and I am not quite sure what to do any more.  I am using JAWS 16 on a Dell Venue Tablet.  It has Windows 8.1.

I want to be able to upgrade it to Windows 10 but can’t seem to do that at this time because it says that there’s not enough memory for that.  That’s impossible because the only programs that have been installed (aside from the usual Dell ones) are MS Office and JAWS. 

When I check the memory, the thing it recommends is to delete some of the unnecessary apps.  That doesn’t really help, because those apps aren’t very big anyway.

It was suggested that the patrician might have something to do with this.  I am not sure how to check that or how to do something with it.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  I’m a technology user but not always a person who diagnoses things, but I do want this tablet on Windows 10, and I know it can be done.  There aren’t many programs on it.

If we really want to get technical (and I do ask questions) please write me off list.

Thanks so much!

Jim

 


Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Adrian Spratt
 

But, as mentioned earlier, JAWS key identifier mode will identify only JAWS functions. It won't pick up F12, for example.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Coe [mailto:charlesmar@comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:25 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

For information:
If you want to know what the keyboard keys are assigned to do Press insert F1. You hear on, to turn off key describer press insert F1 you will hear off.



-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:18 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

The F12 "save" command is a Microsoft control.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Usually, JAWS specific strokes are Insert something, or maybe a function key one like F12 for Save As. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I can't recall specifically right now. When I took my training at the Morehead Center in Raleigh, Windows Key commands were listed first, and then JAWS specific ones were shown.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Richardson [mailto:laurakr65@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 10:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Hello,

This may seem like a dumb question but I’ll ask it anyway ...... When using keystrokes to perform certain tasks, could someone tell me how I know if that is a Windows keystroke or a Jaws keystroke? I use Windows 7 and Jaws 15.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Brian, I think that we need to know Windows strokes, since we are working in a Windows system, but, as blind users, it is imperative for us to know JAWS specific strokes. That is why, for us, there is so much more to learn to get maximum use from our computers.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 6:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello All,

What follows is a rather philosophical question but that certainly has practical implications that the cohort will know about a lot more personally than I ever can. Hence this is the place to ask.

When I tutor on using JAWS I do not focus exclusively on JAWS and its keystrokes because JAWS hovers on top of all other Windows programs and assists in using those. My philosophy is that I want my clients to know as many, if not more, keyboard shortcuts that are universally, or very close to universally, applicable in all Windows programs. I want them to know that, in almost all cases, ALT+F opens the file menu or equivalent, followed by S saves a file, followed by A does a Save as, etc.

One of my clients, with whom I had a marathon 3.25 hour tutoring session yesterday, is relatively new to using Windows Live Mail as well as using PDF XChange viewer to perform OCR on the many image PDFs that still get thrown his way. As a result, I worked him through certain tasks step-by-step and create instructions in the same format, examples of which will follow. It was only when we were conversing afterward, and he used the phrase JAWS keyboard shortcuts when talking about conventional Windows keyboard shortcuts that I thought it important that he had at least a basic understanding that keyboard shortcuts do differ in what program layer, JAWS versus a give Windows program, is responsible for the interpretation of same. I want him to understand how to apply Windows keyboard shortcuts "by extension" when he is playing around with a Windows program that's new to him. Is this a mistake to try to make this distinction? Is it unwise to not focus nearly exclusively on JAWS keyboard shortcuts for functions that also exist independently as a different Windows keyboard shortcut? I'd love to get the perspective of those who would know the pluses and minuses of leaning one way or another.

What follows are a couple of examples of the step-by-step instruction sets I've created, and they look more complicated than they actually are because I try to break things down into simple single steps. Once you know what you're doing most of these tasks can be done in a few moments. I'll include the instructions for running OCR with PDF XChange Viewer because it may be helpful to some here who have decided to play with that program. All focus almost exclusively on using WIndows keyboard shortcuts for the program in question with JAWS serving the role of narrating what's happening while you do this.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Using PDF XChange Viewer to perform OCR on any PDF you receive that is an image PDF, step-by-step:

1. Open PDF XChange Viewer from your start menu.

2. Hit ALT+F,O to bring up the file open browsing dialog.

3. Hit ALT+I to jump directly to the Look In combo box

4. Hit down arrow to get into the area that’s somewhat, but not exactly, like the tree view in Windows Explorer.

5. Hit L until you hear, “Libraries,” announced.

6. Hit TAB two times, you should hear, “Documents”.

7. Hit SPACEBAR to select the Documents library.

8. Hit ENTER to open the documents library.

9. Hit the first character of the folder or file name you’re trying to perform OCR on. Keep doing this with the first character until you hear its name announced.

10. Hit Enter to open the file or folder. If you’re dealing with a file at this step go straight to step 11. Otherwise, do the following

a. If you know the file is in this folder then use the “hit the first character” technique to locate it and jump to step 11 once you have.

b. If you need to drill down another folder level go back to step 9.

11. Hit ALT+O to open the file in PDF XChange Viewer.

12. Hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to open the OCR dialog box. Immediately hit ENTER to initiate the OCR processing. The length of time this takes depends on the size of the file being processed. JAWS does not read the processing status box, but will announce the file’s name with star after it when the processing completes. That’s how you’ll know it’s done.

13. Hit ALT+F,S to save the file and its OCR text into the original file itself.

14. Hit ALT+F4 to close PDF XChange Viewer.




-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Creating a new folder in Windows Explorer, step-by-step:

1. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the folder location in which you wish to create the new folder.

2. Hit ALT+F,W,F to create the new folder itself.

3. Type in the name you want for the new folder you’re creating.

4. Hit ENTER to make that new name stick, and you’re done.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------




To find a specific e-mail message in WLM, step-by-step:

1. Hit ALT+O,FI which opens the message find submenu

2. You are presented with two choices in this submenu: Find Text and Find Message. I will cover each of these briefly.

3. Find Text presents a dialog box allows you to enter a word, words, or phrase that you know is somewhere within the message you’re trying to find. Simply enter that text and skip to step 5.

4. Find Message presents you with a dialog box with a number of possible attributes of the message you might want to search on, e.g., Subject, From, To, and others. Tab through and fill in whichever of these attributes you wish to include in the search. After you’ve filled in whichever are pertinent, go to step 5.

5. Hit ALT+I to activate the Find Now key. This will cause a dialog box to come up with the list of messages that match whatever you searched on, if any exist. These are presented very much like your inbox message list, but are composed only of messages that match the search criteria you entered. When you hear the one you’re interested in as you move through them, hit ENTER to open it.


Re: Outlook 2016 Issue

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Cindy, I don't know why, but you Shift Tab to Favorites. I hit J for
Junk. When I got there, I hit Enter not Tab. I can't figure why the
inconsistency, nevertheless, that is the case.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 11:43 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Issue

Let me say a little more about this. So I tab over to the folders and I
go down to my Spam because there is something I need to find. I hit enter
on it; then I tab over and the inbox stuff is still what I am seeing.
Sorry I did not mention it before.

Cindy Lou





From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 10:07 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Issue



I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, but this is how to navigate
into a folder's message list. go down the list of folders with
first-letter navigation or the down arrow key. Once at the desired
folder, press enter, then tab to the list.



From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 9:39 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Outlook 2016 Issue



I am using Windows 10, Outlook 2016, and JAWS17. I have set up some
folders, originally hoping that I could get messages to go there. I never
did, but I could move things to those folders, thus not having so much in
my in-box. Now I can read the folders, but I can't enter any of them, nor
can I enter my Spam folder, sent folder-none of them. I was wondering
what I ought to be checking to see what is wrong. I've heard some
messages come in that I can't find; I'm not seeing messages from people I
know have sent me some. It is wearing out my patience.

Thanks for your help.

Cindy Lou Ray


Re: Outlook 2016 Issue

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You have to Shift-Tab, then use first-letter navigation to go to folders
in Outlook.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 11:07 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Issue

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, but this is how to navigate
into a folder's message list. go down the list of folders with
first-letter navigation or the down arrow key. Once at the desired
folder, press enter, then tab to the list.



From: Cindy Ray [mailto:cindyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 9:39 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016 Issue



I am using Windows 10, Outlook 2016, and JAWS17. I have set up some
folders, originally hoping that I could get messages to go there. I never
did, but I could move things to those folders, thus not having so much in
my in-box. Now I can read the folders, but I can't enter any of them, nor
can I enter my Spam folder, sent folder-none of them. I was wondering
what I ought to be checking to see what is wrong. I've heard some
messages come in that I can't find; I'm not seeing messages from people I
know have sent me some. It is wearing out my patience.

Thanks for your help.

Cindy Lou Ray


Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Charles Coe
 

For information:
If you want to know what the keyboard keys are assigned to do Press insert F1. You hear on, to turn off key describer press insert F1 you will hear off.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:18 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

The F12 "save" command is a Microsoft control.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Usually, JAWS specific strokes are Insert something, or maybe a function key one like F12 for Save As. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I can't recall specifically right now. When I took my training at the Morehead Center in Raleigh, Windows Key commands were listed first, and then JAWS specific ones were shown.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Richardson [mailto:laurakr65@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 10:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Hello,

This may seem like a dumb question but I’ll ask it anyway ...... When using keystrokes to perform certain tasks, could someone tell me how I know if that is a Windows keystroke or a Jaws keystroke? I use Windows 7 and Jaws 15.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Brian, I think that we need to know Windows strokes, since we are working in a Windows system, but, as blind users, it is imperative for us to know JAWS specific strokes. That is why, for us, there is so much more to learn to get maximum use from our computers.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 6:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello All,

What follows is a rather philosophical question but that certainly has practical implications that the cohort will know about a lot more personally than I ever can. Hence this is the place to ask.

When I tutor on using JAWS I do not focus exclusively on JAWS and its keystrokes because JAWS hovers on top of all other Windows programs and assists in using those. My philosophy is that I want my clients to know as many, if not more, keyboard shortcuts that are universally, or very close to universally, applicable in all Windows programs. I want them to know that, in almost all cases, ALT+F opens the file menu or equivalent, followed by S saves a file, followed by A does a Save as, etc.

One of my clients, with whom I had a marathon 3.25 hour tutoring session yesterday, is relatively new to using Windows Live Mail as well as using PDF XChange viewer to perform OCR on the many image PDFs that still get thrown his way. As a result, I worked him through certain tasks step-by-step and create instructions in the same format, examples of which will follow. It was only when we were conversing afterward, and he used the phrase JAWS keyboard shortcuts when talking about conventional Windows keyboard shortcuts that I thought it important that he had at least a basic understanding that keyboard shortcuts do differ in what program layer, JAWS versus a give Windows program, is responsible for the interpretation of same. I want him to understand how to apply Windows keyboard shortcuts "by extension" when he is playing around with a Windows program that's new to him. Is this a mistake to try to make this distinction? Is it unwise to not focus nearly exclusively on JAWS keyboard shortcuts for functions that also exist independently as a different Windows keyboard shortcut? I'd love to get the perspective of those who would know the pluses and minuses of leaning one way or another.

What follows are a couple of examples of the step-by-step instruction sets I've created, and they look more complicated than they actually are because I try to break things down into simple single steps. Once you know what you're doing most of these tasks can be done in a few moments. I'll include the instructions for running OCR with PDF XChange Viewer because it may be helpful to some here who have decided to play with that program. All focus almost exclusively on using WIndows keyboard shortcuts for the program in question with JAWS serving the role of narrating what's happening while you do this.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Using PDF XChange Viewer to perform OCR on any PDF you receive that is an image PDF, step-by-step:

1. Open PDF XChange Viewer from your start menu.

2. Hit ALT+F,O to bring up the file open browsing dialog.

3. Hit ALT+I to jump directly to the Look In combo box

4. Hit down arrow to get into the area that’s somewhat, but not exactly, like the tree view in Windows Explorer.

5. Hit L until you hear, “Libraries,” announced.

6. Hit TAB two times, you should hear, “Documents”.

7. Hit SPACEBAR to select the Documents library.

8. Hit ENTER to open the documents library.

9. Hit the first character of the folder or file name you’re trying to perform OCR on. Keep doing this with the first character until you hear its name announced.

10. Hit Enter to open the file or folder. If you’re dealing with a file at this step go straight to step 11. Otherwise, do the following

a. If you know the file is in this folder then use the “hit the first character” technique to locate it and jump to step 11 once you have.

b. If you need to drill down another folder level go back to step 9.

11. Hit ALT+O to open the file in PDF XChange Viewer.

12. Hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to open the OCR dialog box. Immediately hit ENTER to initiate the OCR processing. The length of time this takes depends on the size of the file being processed. JAWS does not read the processing status box, but will announce the file’s name with star after it when the processing completes. That’s how you’ll know it’s done.

13. Hit ALT+F,S to save the file and its OCR text into the original file itself.

14. Hit ALT+F4 to close PDF XChange Viewer.




-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Creating a new folder in Windows Explorer, step-by-step:

1. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the folder location in which you wish to create the new folder.

2. Hit ALT+F,W,F to create the new folder itself.

3. Type in the name you want for the new folder you’re creating.

4. Hit ENTER to make that new name stick, and you’re done.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------




To find a specific e-mail message in WLM, step-by-step:

1. Hit ALT+O,FI which opens the message find submenu

2. You are presented with two choices in this submenu: Find Text and Find Message. I will cover each of these briefly.

3. Find Text presents a dialog box allows you to enter a word, words, or phrase that you know is somewhere within the message you’re trying to find. Simply enter that text and skip to step 5.

4. Find Message presents you with a dialog box with a number of possible attributes of the message you might want to search on, e.g., Subject, From, To, and others. Tab through and fill in whichever of these attributes you wish to include in the search. After you’ve filled in whichever are pertinent, go to step 5.

5. Hit ALT+I to activate the Find Now key. This will cause a dialog box to come up with the list of messages that match whatever you searched on, if any exist. These are presented very much like your inbox message list, but are composed only of messages that match the search criteria you entered. When you hear the one you’re interested in as you move through them, hit ENTER to open it.


Re: I have to ask again

Jim Portillo
 

Hi Dave,

Thanks for asking, as I forgot to mention that. 

This is one of those little Dell 8.1 Venue tablets with 32 GB of ram disk space.  I’m told I only have 4 GB left.

 

It’s running a full version of Windows 8.1 at the moment; although, something had to be done to it to reset it back to factory standards because my friend (who is the owner) forgot her password and couldn’t get into it.  So, except for installing the programs, it’s not been used, but it did get reset to factory settings.

 

Question.  Could you explain what you meant about the partician?  You said the following.  Does that need to be fixed?

As to partitioning, it would be unusual for a computer out of the box to not have its primary partition set to be the maximum available hard disk space as a boot partition.

 

Thanks.  Jim

 

From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarlson@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 10:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: I have to ask again

 

Jim,

 

What are the specs (particularly hard disk space and RAM) for your Dell?

 

As to partitioning, it would be unusual for a computer out of the box to not have its primary partition set to be the maximum available hard disk space as a boot partition.

 

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 10:05 AM

Subject: I have to ask again

 

Hello,

 

I hope nobody gets tired of this question, but I need to find a good answer soon, and I am not quite sure what to do any more.  I am using JAWS 16 on a Dell Venue Tablet.  It has Windows 8.1.

I want to be able to upgrade it to Windows 10 but can’t seem to do that at this time because it says that there’s not enough memory for that.  That’s impossible because the only programs that have been installed (aside from the usual Dell ones) are MS Office and JAWS. 

When I check the memory, the thing it recommends is to delete some of the unnecessary apps.  That doesn’t really help, because those apps aren’t very big anyway.

It was suggested that the patrician might have something to do with this.  I am not sure how to check that or how to do something with it.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  I’m a technology user but not always a person who diagnoses things, but I do want this tablet on Windows 10, and I know it can be done.  There aren’t many programs on it.

If we really want to get technical (and I do ask questions) please write me off list.

Thanks so much!

Jim

 


Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Angel
 

I agree with you on that score. If I began learning to use the computer attempting to understand all those keyboard shortcuts, I should easily become discouraged. Emphasis should also be put, when instructing the student on the intuitiveness of the windows layout; and be encouraged to explore on his own its intuitiveness . Kathy Anne Murtha (forgive the poor spelling of her name) use to offer free windows courses on "Main Menu". Which were very fine. The National Braille Press also sold to me three fine texts called "Windows 95, windows 98, and windows XP explained. Perhaps your students would benefit, as I did, from reading similar updated texts. I still have the course Miss Murtha aired on "Main Menu. When Debbie Scales ran the JFW lite list, she went out of her way to find free programs which could be downloaded from the internet. which are most helpful to me. I use them to this day.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellytalk@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching


Brian,

Yes, windows shortcuts are important, but accessibility and
productivity for a blind person relies on being familiar with the JAWS
shortcuts and those built into a particular software application.
After learning a few dozen, I know of no blind end user that can
manage hundreds of keyboard shortcuts in their head. I believe
Microsoft Word has more than 1,000 keyboard shortcuts. It would be an
unreasonable expectation for a blind person to memorize most of these.
Students should be exposed to the JAWS help system that contains
useful information about how to optimize accessibility for a specific
program and how to bring up the menus of JAWS specific keyboard
shortcuts for that program. Often, knowing how to learn is more
important than memorizing the sequences in the accessibility recipes
you provided. This is similar for a blind person in learning to only
travel a specific route from one location to another rather than
learning the general skills of how to travel to any location. In
teaching route travel, the blind person is dependent on the trainer to
constantly teach new routes as their live and personal situations
change.

I do a lot of advocacy projects and find that many people who say they
have accessibility barriers to software or information have received
formal technology access training and some have technology
backgrounds. Yet, few have reviewed the JAWS help system, listened to
the free training tutorials from Freedom Scientific, or searched
online for a solution. I know because I am able to quickly identify a
solution to their access problem that is found in these resources,
showing the person that the issue is their lack of knowledge rather
than one of asserting civil rights.

Kelly

On 1/9/16, Paul D. J. Jenkins <pdjj6123@gmail.com> wrote:
I think companies should encourage a no-mouse week in their offices! That
would be great! Of course, there would need to be some exceptions, but the
improvements in productivity over time are immeasurable!

-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 1:42
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize
when teaching

Hi Brian,
With people using laptops and tablets, it is important to know the JAWS key

commands when JAWS is set to laptop keyboard mode. You do not have to use
the num pad at all when using JAWS, because key commands have been added to

JAWS which makes it possible to not have a num pad at all. For example, caps

lock + K will read the current word as well as num pad 5. It is good to know

the difference between windows and JAWS key commands, because you can
perform a lot of tasks, like saving a file, without speech if you know the
command. Just think, sighted people would greatly benefit by knowing all of

the Windows key commands, because it is much faster to press a key command
then it is working with the mouse. I have shown many of my sighted friends
and my wife many key commands and they use some like alt + tab. Take care
and have a great one.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize
when teaching

Brian, I'm for learning as many shortcuts as possible. If that means that
you may have to emphasize what happens when you separate the six-pack key
from the numpad keys and other aspects, so be it. With practice, people will

get the hang of it.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 3:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when
teaching

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello All,

What follows is a rather philosophical question but that certainly

has practical implications that the cohort will know about a lot more
personally than I ever can. Hence this is the place to ask.

When I tutor on using JAWS I do not focus exclusively on JAWS and

its keystrokes because JAWS hovers on top of all other Windows programs and

assists in using those. My philosophy is that I want my clients to know as

many, if not more, keyboard shortcuts that are universally, or very close to

universally, applicable in all Windows programs. I want them to know that,

in almost all cases, ALT+F opens the file menu or equivalent, followed by S

saves a file, followed by A does a Save as, etc.

One of my clients, with whom I had a marathon 3.25 hour tutoring
session yesterday, is relatively new to using Windows Live Mail as well as
using PDF XChange viewer to perform OCR on the many image PDFs that still
get thrown his way. As a result, I worked him through certain tasks
step-by-step and create instructions in the same format, examples of which
will follow. It was only when we were conversing afterward, and he used the

phrase JAWS keyboard shortcuts when talking about conventional Windows
keyboard shortcuts that I thought it important that he had at least a basic

understanding that keyboard shortcuts do differ in what program layer, JAWS

versus a give Windows program, is responsible for the interpretation of
same. I want him to understand how to apply Windows keyboard shortcuts "by

extension" when he is playing around with a Windows program that's new to
him. Is this a mistake to try to make this distinction? Is it unwise to
not focus nearly exclusively on JAWS keyboard shortcuts for functions that
also exist independently as a different Windows keyboard shortcut? I'd love

to get the perspective of those who would know the pluses and minuses of
leaning one way or another.

What follows are a couple of examples of the step-by-step
instruction sets I've created, and they look more complicated than they
actually are because I try to break things down into simple single steps.
Once you know what you're doing most of these tasks can be done in a few
moments. I'll include the instructions for running OCR with PDF XChange
Viewer because it may be helpful to some here who have decided to play with

that program. All focus almost exclusively on using WIndows keyboard
shortcuts for the program in question with JAWS serving the role of
narrating what's happening while you do this.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Using PDF XChange Viewer to perform OCR on any PDF you receive that is an
image PDF, step-by-step:

1. Open PDF XChange Viewer from your start menu.

2. Hit ALT+F,O to bring up the file open browsing dialog.

3. Hit ALT+I to jump directly to the Look In combo box

4. Hit down arrow to get into the area that�s somewhat, but not exactly,

like the tree view in Windows Explorer.

5. Hit L until you hear, �Libraries,� announced.

6. Hit TAB two times, you should hear, �Documents�.

7. Hit SPACEBAR to select the Documents library.

8. Hit ENTER to open the documents library.

9. Hit the first character of the folder or file name you�re trying to
perform OCR on. Keep doing this with the first character until you hear its

name announced.

10. Hit Enter to open the file or folder. If you�re

dealing with a file at this step go straight to step 11. Otherwise, do the

following

a. If you know the file is in this folder then use the �hit the first
character� technique to locate it and jump to step 11 once you have.

b. If you need to drill down another folder level go back to step 9.

11. Hit ALT+O to open the file in PDF XChange
Viewer.

12. Hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to open the OCR dialog box.
Immediately hit ENTER to initiate the OCR processing. The length of time
this takes depends on the size of the file being processed. JAWS does not
read the processing status box, but will announce the file�s name with star

after it when the processing completes. That�s how you�ll know it�s done.

13. Hit ALT+F,S to save the file and its OCR text
into the original file itself.

14. Hit ALT+F4 to close PDF XChange Viewer.




-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Creating a new folder in Windows Explorer, step-by-step:

1. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the folder location in which
you wish to create the new folder.

2. Hit ALT+F,W,F to create the new folder itself.

3. Type in the name you want for the new folder you�re creating.

4. Hit ENTER to make that new name stick, and you�re done.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------




To find a specific e-mail message in WLM, step-by-step:

1. Hit ALT+O,FI which opens the message find submenu

2. You are presented with two choices in this submenu: Find Text and
Find Message. I will cover each of these briefly.

3. Find Text presents a dialog box allows you to enter a word, words, or

phrase that you know is somewhere within the message you�re trying to find.

Simply enter that text and skip to step 5.

4. Find Message presents you with a dialog box with a number of possible

attributes of the message you might want to search on, e.g., Subject, From,

To, and others. Tab through and fill in whichever of these attributes you
wish to include in the search. After you�ve filled in whichever are
pertinent, go to step 5.

5. Hit ALT+I to activate the Find Now key. This will cause a dialog box

to come up with the list of messages that match whatever you searched on, if

any exist. These are presented very much like your inbox message list, but

are composed only of messages that match the search criteria you entered.
When you hear the one you�re interested in as you move through them, hit
ENTER to open it.













Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Charles Coe
 

Hi,

Here is a web site that one can find several shortcut key list for most
applications:
www.shortcutworld.com
Also a list of JAWS keys is found within JAWS help by using function key F1
and arrowing down until "key strokes book " is heard.

Hope this wil be of help
Charles

----Original Message-----
From: Jason White via Groups.io [mailto:jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:53 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize
when teaching

Debbie Kessler <jessesgirl@earthlink.net> wrote:
I encourage my students to take notes and we add keystrokes as needed or
wanted.


I think it makes good sense to learn to perform frequently occurring tasks
efficiently, then to expand the repertoire to include less frequent
operations. Knowing how to use online help systems effectively is
invaluable.
Searching the Web can give answers very quickly. For instance, suppose an
application gives me an error message. I can search the Web for the error
message and thereby find solutions or explanations - not always,
unfortunately, but often enough for this to be a very valuable strategy.


Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I forgot that my husband knows Control B, F, G, H, U - he's been using a plethora of them. Of course, he's a big mouser too. So, probably there are a lot of sighted people who use more commands than they'd realize that they do. Of course, they have the choice.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul D. J. Jenkins [mailto:pdjj6123@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 6:03 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

I think companies should encourage a no-mouse week in their offices! That would be great! Of course, there would need to be some exceptions, but the improvements in productivity over time are immeasurable!

-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 1:42
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Hi Brian,
With people using laptops and tablets, it is important to know the JAWS key commands when JAWS is set to laptop keyboard mode. You do not have to use the num pad at all when using JAWS, because key commands have been added to JAWS which makes it possible to not have a num pad at all. For example, caps lock + K will read the current word as well as num pad 5. It is good to know the difference between windows and JAWS key commands, because you can perform a lot of tasks, like saving a file, without speech if you know the command. Just think, sighted people would greatly benefit by knowing all of the Windows key commands, because it is much faster to press a key command then it is working with the mouse. I have shown many of my sighted friends and my wife many key commands and they use some like alt + tab. Take care and have a great one.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Brian, I'm for learning as many shortcuts as possible. If that means that you may have to emphasize what happens when you separate the six-pack key from the numpad keys and other aspects, so be it. With practice, people will get the hang of it.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 3:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello All,

What follows is a rather philosophical question but that certainly has practical implications that the cohort will know about a lot more personally than I ever can. Hence this is the place to ask.

When I tutor on using JAWS I do not focus exclusively on JAWS and its keystrokes because JAWS hovers on top of all other Windows programs and assists in using those. My philosophy is that I want my clients to know as many, if not more, keyboard shortcuts that are universally, or very close to universally, applicable in all Windows programs. I want them to know that, in almost all cases, ALT+F opens the file menu or equivalent, followed by S saves a file, followed by A does a Save as, etc.

One of my clients, with whom I had a marathon 3.25 hour tutoring session yesterday, is relatively new to using Windows Live Mail as well as using PDF XChange viewer to perform OCR on the many image PDFs that still get thrown his way. As a result, I worked him through certain tasks step-by-step and create instructions in the same format, examples of which will follow. It was only when we were conversing afterward, and he used the phrase JAWS keyboard shortcuts when talking about conventional Windows keyboard shortcuts that I thought it important that he had at least a basic understanding that keyboard shortcuts do differ in what program layer, JAWS versus a give Windows program, is responsible for the interpretation of same. I want him to understand how to apply Windows keyboard shortcuts "by extension" when he is playing around with a Windows program that's new to him. Is this a mistake to try to make this distinction? Is it unwise to not focus nearly exclusively on JAWS keyboard shortcuts for functions that also exist independently as a different Windows keyboard shortcut? I'd love to get the perspective of those who would know the pluses and minuses of leaning one way or another.

What follows are a couple of examples of the step-by-step instruction sets I've created, and they look more complicated than they actually are because I try to break things down into simple single steps.
Once you know what you're doing most of these tasks can be done in a few moments. I'll include the instructions for running OCR with PDF XChange Viewer because it may be helpful to some here who have decided to play with that program. All focus almost exclusively on using WIndows keyboard shortcuts for the program in question with JAWS serving the role of narrating what's happening while you do this.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Using PDF XChange Viewer to perform OCR on any PDF you receive that is an image PDF, step-by-step:

1. Open PDF XChange Viewer from your start menu.

2. Hit ALT+F,O to bring up the file open browsing dialog.

3. Hit ALT+I to jump directly to the Look In combo box

4. Hit down arrow to get into the area that s somewhat, but not exactly,
like the tree view in Windows Explorer.

5. Hit L until you hear, Libraries, announced.

6. Hit TAB two times, you should hear, Documents .

7. Hit SPACEBAR to select the Documents library.

8. Hit ENTER to open the documents library.

9. Hit the first character of the folder or file name you re trying to
perform OCR on. Keep doing this with the first character until you hear its name announced.

10. Hit Enter to open the file or folder. If you re
dealing with a file at this step go straight to step 11. Otherwise, do the following

a. If you know the file is in this folder then use the hit the first
character technique to locate it and jump to step 11 once you have.

b. If you need to drill down another folder level go back to step 9.

11. Hit ALT+O to open the file in PDF XChange Viewer.

12. Hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to open the OCR dialog box.
Immediately hit ENTER to initiate the OCR processing. The length of time this takes depends on the size of the file being processed. JAWS does not read the processing status box, but will announce the file s name with star after it when the processing completes. That s how you ll know it s done.

13. Hit ALT+F,S to save the file and its OCR text
into the original file itself.

14. Hit ALT+F4 to close PDF XChange Viewer.




-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Creating a new folder in Windows Explorer, step-by-step:

1. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the folder location in which
you wish to create the new folder.

2. Hit ALT+F,W,F to create the new folder itself.

3. Type in the name you want for the new folder you re creating.

4. Hit ENTER to make that new name stick, and you re done.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------




To find a specific e-mail message in WLM, step-by-step:

1. Hit ALT+O,FI which opens the message find submenu

2. You are presented with two choices in this submenu: Find Text and
Find Message. I will cover each of these briefly.

3. Find Text presents a dialog box allows you to enter a word, words, or
phrase that you know is somewhere within the message you re trying to find.
Simply enter that text and skip to step 5.

4. Find Message presents you with a dialog box with a number of possible
attributes of the message you might want to search on, e.g., Subject, From, To, and others. Tab through and fill in whichever of these attributes you wish to include in the search. After you ve filled in whichever are pertinent, go to step 5.

5. Hit ALT+I to activate the Find Now key. This will cause a dialog box
to come up with the list of messages that match whatever you searched on, if any exist. These are presented very much like your inbox message list, but are composed only of messages that match the search criteria you entered.
When you hear the one you re interested in as you move through them, hit ENTER to open it.