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Re: Seeing your download

Kimber Gardner
 

I'd like to add my thanks since I never knew about the control J
command, and now I'm finding it very useful.

Kimber

On 1/7/16, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@...> wrote:
Adrian, I think that's the key combo I was trying to find. I know I saw
something months back; thanks for the refresh.

Ted

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:00 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeing your download

Ted, am I missing something, or do you press control-j to open a window
showing download progress? This worked for me in IE11, as it has done in
earlier versions of IE. As an aside, Chrome makes this information all but
moot because it downloads even big files so incredibly fast.

From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
[mailto:Ted.Lisle@...]<mailto:[mailto:Ted.Lisle@...]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:28 AM
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Seeing your download

Pardon me for changing the thread here, but I've recently noticed something
since switching to 11, and I think I saw something about it on this list
earlier. I can no longer track the progress of my download on screen. Is
there a default to restore the older behavior? It might be right there on
the opening screen, and I didn't know to look for it.

Ted

From: Paul D. J. Jenkins [mailto:pdjj6123@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:14 PM
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Sound Extension For Downloading In Chrome

Good evening Mike!

I am sorry to have to pester you with this, but do you know of a similar
extension for Mozilla Firefox? Most unfortunately, there are still some
pages I have an easier time working with in Firefox, than in Chrome.

Take care,

Paul Jenkins

From: Mike B.
[mailto:mb69mach1@...]<mailto:[mailto:mb69mach1@...]>
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 16:55
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Fw: Sound Extension For Downloading In Chrome

Howdy Y'all,

I finally found an extension that plays a sound when a download is complete.
Info is below:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/download-notifier/gdekiloeocnfnochnkldpkmllmfiaeke?hl=en

Extension

Download Notifier
offered by ehaagwlke
(83)
Category: Productivity
4,514 users
Added to Chrome
Share

OVERVIEW
OVERVIEW
REVIEWS
REVIEWS
SUPPORT
SUPPORT
RELATED
RELATED

Compatible with your device
You get a desktop notification while your downloading finished.
0.0.5
I get the time to make the 'play a sound when download finished' feature
configurable. And you also can decide whether the default download shelf
should
display or not (though I prefer NOT).

Another change is, there will be more than one notification card displayed.

All things now could be configured via options page.

**********
V0.0.4
Here comes three new things:
1. The "Open" button now can be used
2. While one download finished, it would play a sound (not configurable for
now)
3. The icon would be visible even if you are using a pure black theme

and one more thing (might be buggy):
- sometimes Chrome thought the file downloaded would be harmful, once this
happened, this extension will prompt to ask for your confirmation, and this
will be done on the chrome://downloads page. And, this feature might be
buggy, if
you encounter any problem, contact or email me. Thank you.

**********

This extension does two things:

1. Disabled the download shelf. Yes, I personally do not like it. So when I
get the change, I just disabled it. You will get a badge while something is
downloading. Sorry no progress bar available for now.

2. Display a desktop notification when your downloading finished, and you
could find it by one simple click.

TODO(May be implemented in future, may not):

1. An animated browser action icon which could show the downloading
progress

2. A "OPEN" button on the notification card -- depends on whether Google
would allow me to do so. [V0.0.4 added]

3. A popup shows all the downloads -- actually it was almost there, if there
had not been some annoying bugs.
Report Abuse
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Updated: June 21, 2015
Size: 1.73MiB
Languages: See all 2
Take care.
Mike

--
Kimberly


Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Maria Campbell
 

The best cure for ignorance may be knowledge, but that only works if those ignorant aren't beyond reason. This is because you can not reason with the unreasonable. Sadly, there will always be those who will not listen or learn.

On 1/7/2016 1:27 PM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
When you come down to it, this kind of problem is outside of most folks’
frame of reference—they don’t think of it, because they don’t experience
it. While I agree that you can always tell a bigot, but you can’t tell
him much, most don’t understand our problems only because they were
never explained; the best cure for ignorance is knowledge.

Ted

*From:*Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:22 AM
*To:* jfw@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Cindy Ray,

You are entitled to your anger, which is justifiable, but
not to your assertion that Captchas value at thwarting hackers is
"dubious at best." They functioned (and function) brilliantly at
preventing machine-based attacks of all sorts. They were and are a
brilliant idea that had "the law of unintended consequences" attached.
They've also been modified with audio, at least genuine Captcha
captchas have, due to accessibility concerns.

Gerald's assertion is dubious, at best, as advocacy from
individuals and groups is precisely what has driven the changes that
have already occurred and continue to occur. When it comes down to it
the old adage, "It's not all about you," (and that's for the generic
you) applies here. Businesses and entities are only trying to protect
themselves and their assets, and, by extension, their clients. There is
no malicious intent and there is far more awareness, and responsiveness,
with regard to accessibility issues when those are identified.

There is no "one size fits all" solution to any problem, and
there is no utility in creating a completely permeable barrier when a
partial barrier is actually needed. Input from those negatively
affected is an incredibly valuable and necessary part of working through
some issues that really had not been anticipated.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: Need Steps For Updating Internet Explorer

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Chrome has its own issues with JAWS, or the other way round.  FS does not recommend it, and it caused me some grief earlier.  Every advance since Windows 1.X has raised the specter of losing our hard-won autonomy, but it hasn’t happened yet.

 

Ted

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:08 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Steps For Updating Internet Explorer

 

Adrian,

          No, I wasn't missing that point at all.

          There are a lot of people who pay no attention at all to the technical press, and for good reason, so they don't even know that the writing is on the wall with regard to Internet Explorer.  I wasn't sure if you might be one of those people, and there are certainly readers here who might not know.  All I was trying to do was to spread the word that Internet Explorer really is a dead end now and that something else will rise to take its place with the companies doing screen reading software.  I've been praying for Firefox or Chrome to be "the next anointed one(s)."

Brian


Re: Seeing your download

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Adrian, I think that’s the key combo I was trying to find. I know I saw something months back; thanks for the refresh.

 

Ted

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:00 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeing your download

 

Ted, am I missing something, or do you press control-j to open a window showing download progress? This worked for me in IE11, as it has done in earlier versions of IE. As an aside, Chrome makes this information all but moot because it downloads even big files so incredibly fast.

 

From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:28 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Seeing your download

 

Pardon me for changing the thread here, but I’ve recently noticed something since switching to 11, and I think I saw something about it on this list earlier.  I can no longer track the progress of my download on screen.  Is there a default to restore the older behavior?  It might be right there on the opening screen, and I didn’t know to look for it.

 

Ted

 

From: Paul D. J. Jenkins [mailto:pdjj6123@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:14 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound Extension For Downloading In Chrome

 

Good evening Mike!

 

  I am sorry to have to pester you with this, but do you know of a similar extension for Mozilla Firefox?  Most unfortunately, there are still some pages I have an easier time working with in Firefox, than in Chrome.

 

Take care,

 

Paul Jenkins

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 16:55
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Fw: Sound Extension For Downloading In Chrome

 

Howdy Y'all,

 

I finally found an extension that plays a sound when a download is complete.  Info is below:

 

Extension

 

Download Notifier
offered by ehaagwlke
(83)
Category: Productivity
4,514 users
Added to Chrome
Share

 

OVERVIEW
OVERVIEW
REVIEWS
REVIEWS
SUPPORT
SUPPORT
RELATED
RELATED

 

Compatible with your device
You get a desktop notification while your downloading finished.
0.0.5
I get the time to make the 'play a sound when download finished' feature configurable. And you also can decide whether the default download shelf should
display or not (though I prefer NOT).

 

Another change is, there will be more than one notification card displayed.

 

All things now could be configured via options page.

 

**********
V0.0.4
Here comes three new things:
1. The "Open" button now can be used
2. While one download finished, it would play a sound (not configurable for now)
3. The icon would be visible even if you are using a pure black theme

 

and one more thing (might be buggy):
- sometimes Chrome thought the file downloaded would be harmful, once this happened, this extension will prompt to ask for your confirmation, and this
will be done on the chrome://downloads page. And, this feature might be buggy, if
you encounter any problem, contact or email me. Thank you.

 

**********

 

This extension does two things:

 

1. Disabled the download shelf. Yes, I personally do not like it. So when I get the change, I just disabled it. You will get a badge while something is
downloading. Sorry no progress bar available for now.

 

2. Display a desktop notification when your downloading finished, and you could find it by one simple click.

 

TODO(May be implemented in future, may not):

 

1. An animated browser action icon which could show the downloading progress

 

2. A "OPEN" button on the notification card -- depends on whether Google would allow me to do so. [V0.0.4 added]

 

3. A popup shows all the downloads -- actually it was almost there, if there had not been some annoying bugs.
Report Abuse
Version: 0.0.5
Updated: June 21, 2015
Size: 1.73MiB
Languages: See all 2

Take care.
Mike


Re: Is There a Way For Me to Change...

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I think I remember that MM/DD/YYYY format.  It’s a loopy idea, but all I could think of at that moment.  I recall a time about 15 or 20 years ago when my master date got changed without my active (or certainly intentional) intervention, and played havoc with a  time-limited program I was testing.  I went back and use the old DOS date prompt to put back the real calendar date.

 

Ted

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:30 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Is There a Way For Me to Change...

 

Ted,

          That wouldn't work unless you did a Save As on the file, as "Date Created" literally sticks with a file and remains unchanged after the first save of that particular copy.  It's particularly interesting to see some of the "date weirdness" you can get when you copy files, as the copies have a Date Created stamp of the time of the copy but the Date Modified stamp is carried over from the file copied from.  It's odd to see a file that says it was modified at a date earlier than its date created.

           Also, the BulkFileChanger utility does allow you to tweak any of the date metadata.  However, since it was written by a European, and there is a desire to make certain that there is no ambiguity regarding what a date actually is, it requires the use of DD/MM/YYYY format for the dates.

Brian


Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

When you come down to it, this kind of problem is outside of most folks’ frame of reference—they don’t think of it, because they don’t experience it.  While I agree that you can always tell a bigot, but you can’t tell him much, most don’t understand our problems only because they were never explained; the best cure for ignorance is knowledge.

 

Ted

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

 

Cindy Ray,

           You are entitled to your anger, which is justifiable, but not to your assertion that Captchas value at thwarting hackers is "dubious at best."  They functioned (and function) brilliantly at preventing machine-based attacks of all sorts.  They were and are a brilliant idea that had "the law of unintended consequences" attached.  They've also been modified with audio, at least genuine Captcha captchas have, due to accessibility concerns.

           Gerald's assertion is dubious, at best, as advocacy from individuals and groups is precisely what has driven the changes that have already occurred and continue to occur.  When it comes down to it the old adage, "It's not all about you," (and that's for the generic you) applies here.  Businesses and entities are only trying to protect themselves and their assets, and, by extension, their clients.  There is no malicious intent and there is far more awareness, and responsiveness, with regard to accessibility issues when those are identified.

           There is no "one size fits all" solution to any problem, and there is no utility in creating a completely permeable barrier when a partial barrier is actually needed.  Input from those negatively affected is an incredibly valuable and necessary part of working through some issues that really had not been anticipated.


Re: FS Reader and Daisy Books

David Moore
 

Hi,
There is a free webinar that was done on the training page of the FS sight
that you can download and listen to. FS does free webinars and then you can
download them on their training page for free. There is a good webinar that
will teach you how to use the player. Then you can download all of the
training there is for JAWS and read and listen to it at the same time. Have
a great one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 12:31 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader and Daisy Books

Look at the manual included with your JAWS package, or have it read to you
by a member of the FS staff. I don't recall who does that one, but it’s a
good file. What's more, you'll then have full access to all the JAWS
training material your heart can desire.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:16 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader and Daisy Books

How does FS Reader work. It is on my Desktop, but I have no idea what it
does or how it does it. Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Menzies [mailto:jemenzies@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 11:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader and Daisy Books

Elise,

Ah, no worries. I’ve been a Jaws user since 2001 back with Jaws 3.7, and I
haven’t used FS Reader until now either. Always something new to learn.

From: Elise Berkley <mailto:bravaegf@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 8:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: FS Reader and Daisy Books

I am glad your problem was resolved. That is funny. I had FS Reader for a
while and just started using it. I am a little slow when it comes to using
new stuff on the computer. Happy reading!
Elise


Re: classic firefox theme

 

As Brad Martin has already mentioned, the Firefox Classic Theme Restorer is purely cosmetic in nature.  If you are accessing Firefox with JAWS it is really neither here nor there unless it were to break something with accessibility.  I can't really see what purpose it would serve if you literally can't see it.

Firefox does not, by default, show the Menu Bar on initial installation anymore.  It can, however, be toggled back on by hitting ALT+V, followed by T, followed by M.

Not that it's a perfect security measure, but the whole reason for add-on signing is to increase the security profile of a given add-on.  Firefox Classic Theme Restorer is signed and can be verified by Firefox.

Brian


Re: classic firefox theme

Robert Logue
 

Are there instruction for screen reader users? Didn't see any. Just Click on empty space and drag and drop which don't always work well with screen readers. Do we turn virtual cursor off first?

I hope it work well with Jaws. I also hope it is secure. It is not an official Mozilla add on so am not happy to ad more 3rd party plugins from unknown companies just to fixaccessibility that was broken by Mozilla.

On 1/6/2016 12:28 PM, dennis wrote:
i found this just now and thaught it might fix the wevism problem folks are having.
I recently installed Firefox 29, which added several new features to the popular browser.

These are mainly a combination of user interface-related goodies and stability improvements. For example, users can now enjoy redesigned tabs and the ability
to customize the front-end by adding more buttons and functions.

firefoxlogo

While these customization options are definitely welcomed, however, Firefox almost always seems to “break” or change something that didn’t need to be touched
in the first place.

Firefox 29 Issues

The latest Firefox 29 stops you from performing several, seemingly basic things that could frustrate those who are picky about their customization options.

Among these changes include the inability to move the Reload button from its default place or see the Status Bar the same way you used to.

The Reload button now sits to the right of the Address Bar, while the Status Bar only shows items when they are installed.

Additionally, it’s important to note that the so-called Status Bar is now called the Add-on Bar.

The issue with the latter (at least in my case) is the fact that some of my frequently-used add-ons are not yet compatible with the latest Firefox version
or its visual overhaul.

Initially, I thought the best way to restore Firefox to its former glory was to downgrade to a previous version. While this option technically works, it
is counter-intuitive.

Then I found a Firefox plugin (or add-on) called Classic Theme Restorer.

What Does Classic Theme Restorer Do?

The add-on performs a lot of the things that are shockingly unavailable in the latest Firefox update. For example, you can move the Reload button and restore
the old Status Bar (Add-on Bar) to the way it looked before. Additionally, you can place your tabs toward the very top of the browser or underneath the
Menu Bar.

Thankfully, all of my favorite features were working again when I installed Classic Theme Restorer. This includes plugins/add-ons that were no longer functioning
under the new user interface.

Note that the current Firefox version remains the same; the plugin merely restores its former visual settings.

How to Install Classic Theme Restorer

Click here
to download Classic Theme Restorer.

Click “Add to Firefox” followed by “Allow” from the subsequent pop-up menu.

theme-restorer-add

theme-restorer-install

Restart the browser when asked, and voila! You are all set with its installation.

How to Customize Firefox Options

Click the “Tools” menu from the Menu Bar, then click “Classic Theme Restorer.”

Customize any desired option as you see fit, including browser tab positioning and the inclusion of the classic Status Bar (again, now shown as the Add-on
bar.)

theme-restorer-tools-menu

As you can see, every option you modified works like a charm again – including the return of the classic Status Bar:

theme-restorer-customize-screen

How to Move Firefox Items

Simply click an empty area toward the top of the browser (such as the empty space next to the Menu Bar) and then click “Customize.” You will be greeted
with the following screen:

theme-restorer-dialog

Drag and drop any of the available items on the main screen to the top of your browser. Otherwise, drag and move any existing buttons at the top and drop
them anywhere you wish.

theme-restorer-customize-screen

I hope this helps anyone looking to move the Firefox Reload button, restore the classic Menu Bar and any other feature missing from this latest update.

~ Adrian



please change subject was: MS to cease support for IE 8, 9 and 10 next week

Robert Logue
 

I don't know what the actual topic is but am concerned as there is nothing about the original subject which could worry anyone reading just the title.   

On 1/6/2016 7:33 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Carolyn,

          Then there's some JAWS setting that's not passing standard Windows keyboard shortcuts through to IE (and probably other Windows programs).

          ALT should always cause the menu bar to appear (if it's not already visible) for any Windows program that's got one, or throw focus on the ribbon for those programs that use it.

          The H then opens up the Help Menu in IE

          The A then brings up the "About Internet Explorer" dialog

This is an interesting development, as I've never seen this happen (or not happen, in this case), in Internet Explorer when JAWS is running.

Brian



Re: FS Reader and Daisy Books

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Look at the manual included with your JAWS package, or have it read to you by a member of the FS staff. I don't recall who does that one, but it’s a good file. What's more, you'll then have full access to all the JAWS training material your heart can desire.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:16 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader and Daisy Books

How does FS Reader work. It is on my Desktop, but I have no idea what it does or how it does it. Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Menzies [mailto:jemenzies@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 11:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Reader and Daisy Books

Elise,

Ah, no worries. I’ve been a Jaws user since 2001 back with Jaws 3.7, and I haven’t used FS Reader until now either. Always something new to learn.

From: Elise Berkley <mailto:bravaegf@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 8:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: FS Reader and Daisy Books

I am glad your problem was resolved. That is funny. I had FS Reader for a while and just started using it. I am a little slow when it comes to using new stuff on the computer. Happy reading!
Elise


Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I like the semi auto mode for some programs.   Our log file, for example, performs like a champ that way, and is totally unruly on auto.  Quick settings, Personalize Web Settings, allows you to invoke what you want, when and where you want it.

 

Ted

 

From: Londa Peterson [mailto:lpeterson@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

 

 Hi Brian, I'm a bit late to this party, but here are my thoughts. I've found that with some clients, it's actually easier to teach them how to get out of forms mode than it is to teach them to remember to invoke it. I have had some students that no matter how much I drilled them, they simply couldn't remember to invoke forms mode when they needed it. Auto forms mode has saved me a lot of trouble over the years. I'm a firm believer in showing a person all the options and then letting them pick what they like. In most cases, I've found this to be the best.   

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

 

Brad,

           That is precisely what I was hoping to hear, and makes me very inclined to start encouraging my clients to turn off the auto feature for forms mode and use manual mode instead.   This seems so much cleaner and less error prone from my perspective.  Of course, ever man or woman to his or her own taste!

Brian

P.S. to the cohort:  I never mind when random readers jump in to answer a question when they see it first.  I just habitually address the question to the poster whose original post triggered it.


Re: MS to cease support for IE 8, 9 and 10 next week

 

Mike,

            Thanks for that.  Without JAWS in front of me I'm never quite certain when it's going to follow the focus of the PC or not.  Most of the time it does, but clearly it didn't this time.

            I teach my clients straight Windows shortcuts all the time, particularly those related to the File menu in Windows programs, and in that case focus has always followed each successive sub-menu, dialog box, etc.

Brian


Re: Home based employment

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Plantronics also makes a single-driver unit mixing the two sources, like the one I’m presently using.  Works pretty well, without the cauliflower ear I had with the dual unit a few years ago.

 

From: Michael Malver [mailto:mmalver@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 8:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Home based employment

 

You will need a hedset that allows you to hear JAWS in one ear, and the phone (or whatever audio source you are listening to,) in the other. Plantronics used to make such a device years ago. You will need this regardless of whether you work from home, or out of the home.

 

 

From: Laura Richardson [mailto:laurakr65@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Home based employment

 

Hi list members,

 

I’m currently searching for a customer service, medical transcription, or other home based position  but am not sure what extra equipment I might need to do these types of jobs from home.  Do I need special software, special headset and/or ear bud, etc.?  I use Windows 7 and Jaws 15.

 

Could somebody please share their current or past experience with home based employment?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Laura

 

 


Re: Mirror Display driver error

Cristóbal
 

This is for Win 7 machines by the way. Win 8 and 8.1 aren’t impacted by this.

 

From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:38 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Mirror Display driver error

 

Sounds as if going from 16 to 17, if 16 worked correctly, should be okay.  If I use the removal tool(I haven’t yet), I’ll be removing 15 only.

 

From: Michael Mote [mailto:miketmote73@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Mirror Display driver error

 

You can check in your device manager to see if the mirror display driver is installed.  If it is, I would remove it, and then run a JAWS repair.  This has resolved this issue for me in the past.  If it doesn’t, you may have to totally remove JAWS, and start from scratch.  Good luck!

 

 

From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:49 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Mirror Display driver error

 

In other words, you used a download, rather than the factory disk?  I want to follow this thread, as 17 may be in my immediate personal and professional future.

 

From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Mirror Display driver error

 

Did you by any chance run the Windows 10 tool from FS to remove older versions of Jaws? If so, then that could be what’s causing your issues. I did this thinking I’d upgrade my Windows 7 machine, but later decided against it. Running the Jaws 17 installer fixed it for me.

 

 

From: Sameer [mailto:salatey@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 7:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Mirror Display driver error

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

I had been using JAWS 16 (64-bit) on my computer with Windows 7 as the OS. I have installed the latest build of JAWS 17 (64-bit) during the weekend & since then have been receiving a Freedom Scientific Mirror Display driver error message. This error message appears whenever JAWS is started & going back to JAWS version 16 has not resolved the problem.

 

The error message says that the Freedom Scientific Mirror Display driver could not be loaded & provides a Reinstall option. Selecting the Reinstall option does not resolve the problem.

 

Request your kind assistance in resolving the above problem.

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India


Re: Mirror Display driver error

Cristóbal
 

Yes. I ran the .exe file for the latest JFW 17. This is my practice in general. I haven’t used the disk in years. Nor do I do the update through the update tool in Jaws.

 

From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:49 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Mirror Display driver error

 

In other words, you used a download, rather than the factory disk?  I want to follow this thread, as 17 may be in my immediate personal and professional future.

 

From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Mirror Display driver error

 

Did you by any chance run the Windows 10 tool from FS to remove older versions of Jaws? If so, then that could be what’s causing your issues. I did this thinking I’d upgrade my Windows 7 machine, but later decided against it. Running the Jaws 17 installer fixed it for me.

 

 

From: Sameer [mailto:salatey@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 7:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Mirror Display driver error

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

I had been using JAWS 16 (64-bit) on my computer with Windows 7 as the OS. I have installed the latest build of JAWS 17 (64-bit) during the weekend & since then have been receiving a Freedom Scientific Mirror Display driver error message. This error message appears whenever JAWS is started & going back to JAWS version 16 has not resolved the problem.

 

The error message says that the Freedom Scientific Mirror Display driver could not be loaded & provides a Reinstall option. Selecting the Reinstall option does not resolve the problem.

 

Request your kind assistance in resolving the above problem.

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India


Re: MS to cease support for IE 8, 9 and 10 next week

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I followed Mike's additional instructions to route JAWS cursor to PC, then hit Pageup, and all of the information was accessible, thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 9:33 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: MS to cease support for IE 8, 9 and 10 next week

Carolyn,

Then there's some JAWS setting that's not passing standard Windows keyboard shortcuts through to IE (and probably other Windows programs).

ALT should always cause the menu bar to appear (if it's not already visible) for any Windows program that's got one, or throw focus on the ribbon for those programs that use it.

The H then opens up the Help Menu in IE

The A then brings up the "About Internet Explorer" dialog

This is an interesting development, as I've never seen this happen (or not happen, in this case), in Internet Explorer when JAWS is running.

Brian


Re: MS to cease support for IE 8, 9 and 10 next week

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

That did work with Alt-H-A to route JAWS pc and then hit Pageup.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 9:46 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: MS to cease support for IE 8, 9 and 10 next week

The, Alt + H, then, A, keystroke does work to find your version of IE but, you need to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, Press the Page-up key, & arrow down 1 line at a time to get the information in this window. If you want the, get new versions automatically, checkbox checked / unchecked, you have to check this box with the Jaws left mouse click keystroke.
Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: MS to cease support for IE 8, 9 and 10 next week


Carolyn,

Then there's some JAWS setting that's not passing standard Windows keyboard shortcuts through to IE (and probably other Windows programs).

ALT should always cause the menu bar to appear (if it's not already visible) for any Windows program that's got one, or throw focus on the ribbon for those programs that use it.

The H then opens up the Help Menu in IE

The A then brings up the "About Internet Explorer" dialog

This is an interesting development, as I've never seen this happen (or not happen, in this case), in Internet Explorer when JAWS is running.

Brian


Re: Jaws with Learning Ally Link

Gennie Eachus <geachus@...>
 

You should just be able to press control-o and type learningally.org. The
home page comes up. You have the ability to do searches from there.
If you need more help, you can email me off list at
geachus@...
When I logged in today, it took a long time for the page to come up. This
was after I had just explored the home page. What technology are you using?

-----Original Message-----
From: Elise Berkley [mailto:bravaegf@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 3:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws with Learning Ally Link

Hey, all. Is anyone familiar with Learning Ally Link? It is an application
that works with Learning Ally to download books to read in audio format. I
am having trouble accessing the app homepage. I have to tab a number of
times and hit the pc cursor button until, I guess, it connects and then it
will read the page. Does anyone ave any suggestions that I can try so I
will not hope I can use this. It has my textbooks for next semester.
Elise


Re: Mirror Display driver error

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Sounds as if going from 16 to 17, if 16 worked correctly, should be okay.  If I use the removal tool(I haven’t yet), I’ll be removing 15 only.

 

From: Michael Mote [mailto:miketmote73@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:34 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Mirror Display driver error

 

You can check in your device manager to see if the mirror display driver is installed.  If it is, I would remove it, and then run a JAWS repair.  This has resolved this issue for me in the past.  If it doesn’t, you may have to totally remove JAWS, and start from scratch.  Good luck!

 

 

From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:49 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Mirror Display driver error

 

In other words, you used a download, rather than the factory disk?  I want to follow this thread, as 17 may be in my immediate personal and professional future.

 

From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 12:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Mirror Display driver error

 

Did you by any chance run the Windows 10 tool from FS to remove older versions of Jaws? If so, then that could be what’s causing your issues. I did this thinking I’d upgrade my Windows 7 machine, but later decided against it. Running the Jaws 17 installer fixed it for me.

 

 

From: Sameer [mailto:salatey@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 7:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Mirror Display driver error

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

I had been using JAWS 16 (64-bit) on my computer with Windows 7 as the OS. I have installed the latest build of JAWS 17 (64-bit) during the weekend & since then have been receiving a Freedom Scientific Mirror Display driver error message. This error message appears whenever JAWS is started & going back to JAWS version 16 has not resolved the problem.

 

The error message says that the Freedom Scientific Mirror Display driver could not be loaded & provides a Reinstall option. Selecting the Reinstall option does not resolve the problem.

 

Request your kind assistance in resolving the above problem.

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India