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Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

Maria, you are so right. I myself have a hearing loss, and I find it so annoying.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 8:08 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Well of course, we can't see the letters, numbers, etc., but to add
insult to injury, the audible presentation is so garbled, it's hard to
tell, what to enter what one is supposed to hears. And that doesn't
even come close to the additional problems for people with hearing loss,
such as myself.


On 1/5/2016 6:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
. . . and I ask that question in all sincerity, since I haven't yet had
a client complain to me about not being able to get past them.

The version I'm seeing these days always includes a "pronounce it"
button an a "reload another" button attached to the Captcha, and I'm
wondering if those simply don't work when working with JAWS.

I may have to include "Captcha practice" at some point in the future, as
I know they're fairly ubiquitous.

Brian

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Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Kane Brolin
 

It will be a while before CAPTCHAs are stopped. This might happen,
once compatibility with mobile browsing becomes a universal standard.
But the provider of online info related to my Visa card, for example,
requires me to verify a CAPTCHA every time I sign in. Not just to
change account settings or to do some other specialized or sensitive
task--just to log in to check my points!

The muddy/hard-to-understand nature of the audio CAPTCHA is the whole
point. They want something that requires subjective, human perception
to understand--not just a clear voice-print that dictation software
could translate automatically into text in the way that Grasshopper
does with a voicemail message.

-Kane


Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

Kane Brolin
 

Extremely helpful. I'd noticed the blockage of Webvisum in the last
few days but hadn't gotten around to researching why. This config
alteration worked for me.

-Kane


Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@...>
 

Captchas are a major headache, even when you reload or do whatever to try and get something that you can even understand.  It often sounds like an old tape where you can hear the reverse side as gibberish, and it is distracting when trying to understand what the captcha is trying to tell you!  I’ve heard there is no longer a need for these silly things and they should be stopped!

 

Kevin


Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Maria Campbell
 

Well of course, we can't see the letters, numbers, etc., but to add insult to injury, the audible presentation is so garbled, it's hard to tell, what to enter what one is supposed to hears. And that doesn't even come close to the additional problems for people with hearing loss, such as myself.

On 1/5/2016 6:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
. . . and I ask that question in all sincerity, since I haven't yet had
a client complain to me about not being able to get past them.

The version I'm seeing these days always includes a "pronounce it"
button an a "reload another" button attached to the Captcha, and I'm
wondering if those simply don't work when working with JAWS.

I may have to include "Captcha practice" at some point in the future, as
I know they're fairly ubiquitous.

Brian

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hello All.

When I had firefox 42 and 43 webvisum will not login at all because firefox version 42 and 43 wasn't compalible so here what 's Carlos give me instruction to make firefox default browser !! Here is Carlos instruction below and the lady name Ashley from microsoft disability support did helped me last week .

 

Addison

 

WebVisum works in Firefox version 42.  It will also work in version 43 if you change the following setting.

 

Type
about:config
in the Firefox address bar and press enter.  Confirm that you will be
careful if a warning page is displayed.  Find the item labeled
xpinstall.signatures.require
in the list of options.  Press Enter on the preference to toggle its value so that it is set to false.

 

To stop Firefox from updating, open the

"Tools"

menu, select

"Options"

navigate to the
"Advanced"

tab, then to the

"Update"

tab, and make sure that the

"Never check for updates"
radio button is checked.

 

Note that WebVisum may or may not work in version 44 and will almost certainly not work in version 45 if the developer does not sign the add-on.  If you want to continue using it at that point, either stop your existing installation from updating as described above or install a second copy and configure it not to update.  You can then run the second copy only when you need to use WebVisum.  A portable copy of Firefox might be better for this purpose which you can download here.

http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./

----- Original Message -----

From: O.Addison Gethers

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 9:03 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Firefox 43.1 with webvisum problem

 

Hello All,

Does anyone have problem with webvisum with latest firefox 43.1 and 42 logging in ? Because I can’t get webvisum log in firefox 42 and 43.1 so I   have try to download webvisum it won’t install the extension add-on where I can allow the software to install I went to add-on to extension ,appears and plug-in there is no webvisum disable at all!! Microsoft disability support man told me that webvisum will not work with the latest firefox 42 and 43 so he uninstalled firefox 42 on yesterday (Thursday) he installed Mozilla firefox 40 where webvisum login when he download the extension and allow the software install !! When I open firefox this tonight it was upgrading back to firefox 43.1 webvisum is not logging in at all !! How can I stop firefox updated the version when I go back to firefox 40 ? Does anyone how to webvisum to work with latest firefox ?

Addison  

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 7:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

 

I sent a request to the coders of WV to sign or have Mozilla's ADO team sign so blind users can still solve those awnery CAPTCHAs.

 

and I've recently upgraded FF to 43.0.1 and my WV was still working. I did not have to do the hack. I hope when FF 44 comes out, WV is still working.

 

 

On 1/5/2016 6:26 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

> Jean & Gerald,

>        Based on this thread I have written to the folks who code

> WebVisum to ask if they intend to create a signed version.

>        Gerald's instructions definitely work, but they also disable

> what I think is a valuable security feature that Firefox has added. 

> Any add-on coder is going to have to update their add-ons to be signed

> if they are to have any long term future.  I am hoping that the reply

> will be that a signed add-on is in the works.  If it is, and you get

> it, it's worth reversing that tweak to allow unsigned add-ons.

> Brian

>

 




Re: How to Make JAWS Speak When the Value of a Field Changes?

Gary King
 

Richard,
You could try setting Screen Echo to All using the JAWS Key s combination.  If the field you want to monitor is the only area of the screen that's changing, you should hear the changes.  Of course, if other areas of the screen are also changing, you will get too much chatter.  Screen Echo is normally set to Highlighted.
 
If the above simple solution doesn't work, and you are serious about getting the needed information, then it is time to learn about JAWS Frames.  In JAWS Help topics under Customizing JAWS for Windows, there is a book titled Frame Viewer.  You can go through this book to see how frames work to monitor areas on the screen.
 
Gary King
w4wkz@...

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 12:04 PM
Subject: How to Make JAWS Speak When the Value of a Field Changes?

Hi!

 

I use a program that has fields that contain numeric values.  These values periodically change based on information received by the program from a ham radio which the program is monitoring.  Presently, I have to tab into the field, and then the value can be read by JAWS.  How can I make JAWS report the value of these fields each time they change instead of having to tab into the field?

 

Thanks,

Richard


What is the issue with Captchas?

 

. . . and I ask that question in all sincerity, since I haven't yet had a client complain to me about not being able to get past them.

The version I'm seeing these days always includes a "pronounce it" button an a "reload another" button attached to the Captcha, and I'm wondering if those simply don't work when working with JAWS.

I may have to include "Captcha practice" at some point in the future, as I know they're fairly ubiquitous.

Brian


Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

Mario
 

I sent a request to the coders of WV to sign or have Mozilla's ADO team sign so blind users can still solve those awnery CAPTCHAs.

and I've recently upgraded FF to 43.0.1 and my WV was still working. I did not have to do the hack. I hope when FF 44 comes out, WV is still working.

On 1/5/2016 6:26 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Jean & Gerald,

Based on this thread I have written to the folks who code
WebVisum to ask if they intend to create a signed version.

Gerald's instructions definitely work, but they also disable what
I think is a valuable security feature that Firefox has added. Any
add-on coder is going to have to update their add-ons to be signed if
they are to have any long term future. I am hoping that the reply will
be that a signed add-on is in the works. If it is, and you get it, it's
worth reversing that tweak to allow unsigned add-ons.

Brian


Re: Home based employment

Adekoya Rasak
 

big thank to Charles. but please, can a visually impaired person who
lives in a country in Africa enroll for any of tis job opportunit?

regard

On 04/01/2016, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:
If you get the scissors type, they can be taped together. When I worked, I
had three of them taped together - one for Vocal Eyes; one for the main
dictation machine and one for cassettes. It worked with no problem.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 12:37 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Home based employment

I have moderate to severe, or is it the other way around hearing loss, so I
have to do everything from the left ear.

Rather uncomfortable to put the phone and headset to one ear lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 9:31 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Home based employment

I do that all the time, when I call the bank or credit card company, earbud
in right ear for computer, earbud in left for phone.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: SingingHearts [mailto:singinghearts@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 9:39 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Home based employment

I have improvised with a headset for one source and earbuds for the other
when doing medical transcription from home with one side of the headset
covering one ear and one earbud in the other. A refreshable braille
display/notetaker was very helpful, too. The companies I've worked for
provided the transcription-specific equipment (hardware and software). Many
medical references are available online. Searching them out ahead of time,
bookmarking them, and familiarizing yourself with them can be a great
timesaver.

Hth,
Tina C.


On 1/4/16, Michael Malver <mmalver@gmail.com> wrote:
You will need a hedset that allows you to hear JAWS in one ear, and
the phone (or whatever audio source you are listening to,) in the other.
Plantronics used to make such a device years ago. You will need this
regardless of whether you work from home, or out of the home.





From: Laura Richardson [mailto:laurakr65@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Home based employment



Hi list members,



I'm currently searching for a customer service, medical transcription,
or other home based position but am not sure what extra equipment I
might need to do these types of jobs from home. Do I need special
software, special headset and/or ear bud, etc.? I use Windows 7 and
Jaws 15.



Could somebody please share their current or past experience with home
based employment? Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Laura








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Opera Web Browser

 

I thought I'd post this under its own topic.

Opera, like virtually all major web browsers these days, will run on a number of platforms, including Windows, Android, and the various versions of Apple's OSX.

It is built on the same web browser engine as Chrome is.  It has been around for a very long time and has fans, and its suite of add-ons is extensive, but not nearly as extensive as either Firefox or Chrome.

Brian


Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

cecropia64
 

Good luck.  I wrote to them and got no reply at all.  Nobody seems to be home at the Web Visum site.  I doubt that they will say or do anything to repair the non-functioning addon.  But I'm glad to see that someone besides me and a few others are trying to do something.  It's kind of refreshing.

On 1/5/2016 6:26 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Jean & Gerald,

      Based on this thread I have written to the folks who code WebVisum to ask if they intend to create a signed version.

      Gerald's instructions definitely work, but they also disable what I think is a valuable security feature that Firefox has added.  Any add-on coder is going to have to update their add-ons to be signed if they are to have any long term future.  I am hoping that the reply will be that a signed add-on is in the works.  If it is, and you get it, it's worth reversing that tweak to allow unsigned add-ons.

Brian



Re: IE 11 with Jaws 17

Maria Campbell
 

This is just something to try. Check that your forms mode is set to manual in the insert v quick settings for IE.

On 1/5/2016 6:13 PM, Jean Menzies wrote:
I just upgraded to Windows 10, but I don’t think that’s the issue here.
Using Jaws 17 and IE in Windows 10. When I go to a site like the Manage
my apple ID page, I am finding it virtually impossible to navigate
outside of edit fields. I can’t explain exactly what’s happening, but
it’s like I can only read parts of the page, and old arrowing options
aren’t working. One thing I remember is that in a combo edit field, the
arrow keys actually are inserting numbers. Just strange behaviour all
around.
IE 11 isn’t new. Jaws 17 is quite new for me, and Windows 10 is brand
new. Any ideas what might be going on here?
Jean
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Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hello Jean,

The Lady from Microsoft disability support did helped me last week to get webvisum to work with firefox 43 she able get webvisum to login firefox without any problem when she was reading Carlos instruction !! If you have that instruction from Carlos it’s will work but I can not remember how did Ashley do it .

Addison  

 

From: Jean Menzies [mailto:jemenzies@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox WebVisum problem

 

I’ve just updated to Windows 10, so am updating other things as well. I don’t use Firefox often, but I do use it especially for capchas. I think I am running the latest update now, but it tells me that WebVisum could not be verified for use with Firefox and has been disabled. How do I get this back or allow it to run? 

 

Jean

 




IE 11 with Jaws 17

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

I just upgraded to Windows 10, but I don’t think that’s the issue here. Using Jaws 17 and IE in Windows 10. When I go to a site like the Manage my apple ID page, I am finding it virtually impossible to navigate outside of edit fields. I can’t explain exactly what’s happening, but it’s like I can only read parts of the page, and old arrowing options aren’t working. One thing I remember is that in a combo edit field, the arrow keys actually are inserting numbers. Just strange behaviour all around.
 
IE 11 isn’t new. Jaws 17 is quite new for me, and Windows 10 is brand new. Any ideas what might be going on here?
 
Jean


Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

Cristóbal
 

Good luck hearing back from them. As has been mentioned before, the add-on is more or less a zombi now. Dev’s aren’t supporting it or responding  to inquiries. It’ll work until it doesn’t at this point.

It would be great if you did get any sort of anser back though.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 3:27 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

 

Jean & Gerald,

      Based on this thread I have written to the folks who code WebVisum to ask if they intend to create a signed version.

      Gerald's instructions definitely work, but they also disable what I think is a valuable security feature that Firefox has added.  Any add-on coder is going to have to update their add-ons to be signed if they are to have any long term future.  I am hoping that the reply will be that a signed add-on is in the works.  If it is, and you get it, it's worth reversing that tweak to allow unsigned add-ons.

Brian


Re: Adblock Plus, How / Where To Access Settings

David Moore
 

Hi guys,
I was wondering what kind of browser Opera is? I have never heard of it. Is it for a Windows PC? I am just curious. Have a great one.
       
 

Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Adblock Plus, How / Where To Access Settings
 

Mike,

         IE was so late in the game of allowing add-ons and the implementation is different.  It's no surprise that this is done in a way "not like everyone else" in the browser world.

         I just wanted to hit on the more conventional Firefox and Chrome implementations when Firefox was mentioned.  The one in Opera is also very similar.


Re: Jaws speech and Zoomtext magnification?

Pablo Morales
 

Yes, both programs works nice.

 

 

From: Michael Mote [mailto:miketmote73@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws speech and Zoomtext magnification?

 

It does work Ok.  I have worked with several folks who use that combo as well.  From time to time, we do encounter issues with the mirror display drivers, because both programs are fighting for control, as Ron referenced in his post.  Most of the time, they will play nice though.  The only major problems that I have encountered were with Zoomtext and Internet Explorer versions 9 and 10.  I think that has been resolved now though.

 

 

 

From: Ron Worley Home [mailto:ron65@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 7:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws speech and Zoomtext magnification?

 

I am running Zoomtext 10.1 and JAWS 16 and I have not had any problems as of yet.  If you have the opportunity to do this, install JAWS first and uninstall it last.  There can always be an argument of which one keeps control of the vidio card.  You should not have any troubles with running Zoomtext without speech and having JAWS to speak for you.

 

From: Amy Bower [mailto:abower@...]
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 10:54 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws speech and Zoomtext magnification?

 

Hi – I’m wondering if anyone is using Jaws speech with Zoomtext magnification. I did use this combo for years, but then abandoned Zoomtext in favor of Magic when it seemed almost impossible to get Zoomtext and Jaws to work together. This was at least 4-5 years ago that I made the switch. Now I’m having some problems with Magic and other products, like J-Say and Matlab (latter with Magic v. 13, so had to roll back to v. 12). Before I start a trial of Zoomtext, I would like to hear about any experiences out there with this combo. I always preferred the Zoomtext product for magnification.

-Amy B.

 

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Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

 

Jean & Gerald,

      Based on this thread I have written to the folks who code WebVisum to ask if they intend to create a signed version.

      Gerald's instructions definitely work, but they also disable what I think is a valuable security feature that Firefox has added.  Any add-on coder is going to have to update their add-ons to be signed if they are to have any long term future.  I am hoping that the reply will be that a signed add-on is in the works.  If it is, and you get it, it's worth reversing that tweak to allow unsigned add-ons.

Brian


Re: Firefox WebVisum problem

Gerald Levy
 


Firefox 43, the latest version, introduced a security feature that prevents
unsigned, third-party add-ons like Webvisum from working.  If you depend on
Webvisum to solve image captchas like many of us do, follow these steps to
get it to work with Firefox 43:


1.  Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with
no spaces:
about:config
2.  You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.'
Click on  the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
3.  tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are
looking for the below item:
xpinstall.signatures.required
4.  When this item is highlighted, press the context keyh or right click and
choose toggel or press T (same thing.) 5.  The highlighted value should
change to false as in:
xpinstall.signatures.required;false

Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again,
Webvisum should work.


Gerald



 

Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 4:55 PM
Subject: Firefox WebVisum problem
 
I’ve just updated to Windows 10, so am updating other things as well. I don’t use Firefox often, but I do use it especially for capchas. I think I am running the latest update now, but it tells me that WebVisum could not be verified for use with Firefox and has been disabled. How do I get this back or allow it to run? 
 
Jean