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Re: Google Drive/Docs

David Moore
 

Hi Brian,
Yes, I use Google Drive and docs a lot. It is very accessible. You just have to learn the key commands for Google drive and docs. I can send the commands to you if you want. Freedom Scientific did two great webinars on Google drive and docs, If you go to their training page, you can download two great webinars in mp3 audio and the documentation. All of the key commands and all instructions are in those two webinars. Have a great New Year, Brian.
 
 

From: Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: Google Drive/Docs
 

I love google drive and use it more vs dropbox. Why? Not sure lol.  The only thing I can’t seem to master is sharing a folder.  I can do it but it takes a minute for me to get it done.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Drive/Docs

 

Mike & David,

          Thanks for the follow-ups.

          It's interesting to encounter a confusion on terminology because of switching between products.  I always try, no matter what product I'm tutoring on, to stick exclusively to the terminology they use in their documentation for object X.   It took me forever to call what all the rest of the world, including most web programmers, call a text box an edit field.  I also get that different products use different terms for "the same things."

          Back to the subject at hand, I've never received an answer to my earlier questions regarding whether or not anyone has tried using Google Drive for Desktop, which is available for Windows or Mac, and can be downloaded from this Drive webpage?  I actually quite love it, because it creates what appears to be a regular folder named Google Drive on your desktop and in Windows Explorer/File Explorer.  You can just drag and drop files to and from this folder and it uploads, downloads, deletes, what have you those actions are actually synchronized to your Google Drive in the cloud.  You can create folders within it, too.  It's ultra convenient, if nothing else.  It's not of much use, though, if you want to access your Google Drive on a machine that's not your own, and you would still need to be able to navigate the Google Drive webpage then.

Brian
I guess the search button works but it's not labeled well

Ryan Coverdell
 

I guess the search option works but it's not labeled with anything
more than the word edit. Right next to it it says account button. Has
any one else been annoyed by web sites and their lack of accessibility
or questionable accessibility?

Happy New Year,

Ryan Coverdell
continuation of last message

Ryan Coverdell
 

I guess the change station does work but the search for stations does
not seem to show up in my screen reader. How do you get that form to
come up in the iheart radio player? I have a station on now (klove)
and I'm wanting to launch another one which will probably not show up
on their top picks because it is a small-town iheart owned station
from Chillicothe, Ohio.

I'm still tryhing things so we'll see what happens.
Re: Google Drive/Docs

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I love google drive and use it more vs dropbox. Why? Not sure lol.  The only thing I can’t seem to master is sharing a folder.  I can do it but it takes a minute for me to get it done.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Drive/Docs

 

Mike & David,

          Thanks for the follow-ups.

          It's interesting to encounter a confusion on terminology because of switching between products.  I always try, no matter what product I'm tutoring on, to stick exclusively to the terminology they use in their documentation for object X.   It took me forever to call what all the rest of the world, including most web programmers, call a text box an edit field.  I also get that different products use different terms for "the same things."

          Back to the subject at hand, I've never received an answer to my earlier questions regarding whether or not anyone has tried using Google Drive for Desktop, which is available for Windows or Mac, and can be downloaded from this Drive webpage?  I actually quite love it, because it creates what appears to be a regular folder named Google Drive on your desktop and in Windows Explorer/File Explorer.  You can just drag and drop files to and from this folder and it uploads, downloads, deletes, what have you those actions are actually synchronized to your Google Drive in the cloud.  You can create folders within it, too.  It's ultra convenient, if nothing else.  It's not of much use, though, if you want to access your Google Drive on a machine that's not your own, and you would still need to be able to navigate the Google Drive webpage then.

Brian
How do you change stations using iheart radio?

Ryan Coverdell
 

Using windows 7, internet explorer 11, and jaws 14, how do you change
stations on the iheart radio web site on the desktop? I listen to a
station, for example, wniv am 970, and when I go to another station it
does not change but rather brings up another separate audio window
playing over the top of the audio already playing. How do you 'change"
the station? Similarly, say I want to search for a station I already
know about instead of picking their top choices? Any help would be
greatly appreciated. I have lots of time this week end to try things.
I have a lot more questions on other things as well so I might just
send them.

happy new Year,

Ryan Coverdell
Re: Google drive/docs

David Moore
 

Hi,
Here are some good short cut key commands for Google docs. These will really get you going. Here they are.
Google Drive commands first.
Go To Keys And Other Useful Commands
 
Google Drive provides shortcut keys which make navigation within the Drive interface quicker and more convenient. These commands will only work if the
virtual pc cursor is turned off. The shortcut keys (Go To keys) are composed of two-key sequences beginning with G followed by a second letter. A few other
shortcut commands use only one letter to navigate to a specific menu item within the Google Toolbar or the Drive Toolbar.
 
Summary: This table includes all of the Google Drive Go To Commands and some other useful navigation commands. The first column contains the description
of the navigation action, the second column contains the command keystroke.
table with 3 columns and 15 rows
Description |    Command | 
Go To Navigation Pane | GN or GF | 
Go To Items View (Files list) | GL | 
Change File List area between grid view and list view | V | 
Go To Details/Activity Pane | GD | 
Go To Upload Status | GU | 
Go To Download Status | GA | 
Go To Top Of Page | GT | 
Go to Toolbar | GR | 
Move Between Items In The Toolbar | TAB and SHIFT+TAB | 
Go Up One Folder In The Path | GP | 
Go to Settings Menu in the Toolbar | T | 
Go to the New menu in the Toolbar | C |  | 
Go to Search area | / | 
Go To Action menu | A |
table end
 
Google Docs Environment
 
Remember that the web interface within a Google Docs document consists of several Areas. The primary area is the Edit area. You can create, edit and read
text in this area. Other areas include:
 
list of 4 items
• Applications menu
• Top Toolbar
• Main Toolbar
• Context Sensitive Menu
list end
 
You can read through the text of your document in the Edit area using standard JAWS and Windows reading commands. You will navigate to other parts of the
Google Docs interface using shortcut keys. Remember, if you ever forget a key combination, you can open a list of keyboard shortcuts within Google Docs
by pressing
CTRL+/. Along with a list of shortcuts, the dialog contains a link to view all Google Docs shortcuts in the Help Center. To close the dialog, press ESCAPE.
 
Editing Text
 
You can easily turn text attributes on and off using Google Doc's built-in shortcuts. These work in a manner very similar to those many of us are used
to using in Microsoft Word.
 
Selecting Text, Bold, Underline and Italics commands
 
As an example of how you might select text and apply text attributes, let's select some text and change it from normal to a bolded font.
 
list of 4 items
1 Type a few lines of text into a Google Docs document.
2 Place the cursor on a line of text and press HOME to be certain that your cursor is located at the beginning of the line of text.
3 Press SHIFT+END to select the entire line of text.
4 Press CTRL+B to change the text to a bold font.
list end
 
You can also simply press CTRL+B and begin entering text into your document. The text will be bolded. To discontinue applying the Bold attribute, press
CTRL+B
again.
 
To select words in the text and underline them:
 
list of 3 items
1 Place the cursor at the beginning of the word, or string of words which you would like to italicize.
2 Press CTRL+RIGHT ARROW until the word, or all of the words in the desired text string are selected.
3 Press CTRL+I to italicize the selected text.
list end
 
You can also simply press CTRL+I and begin entering text into your document. The text will be italicized. To discontinue applying the Italic attribute,
press CTRL+I
again.
 
Underlining words or strings of text follows the same basic steps as it did for italicizing text:
 
list of 3 items
1 Place the cursor at the beginning of the word or words which you wish to underline.
2 Press CTRL+RIGHT ARROW until the word or words you wish to underline are all selected.
3 Press CTRL+U to apply the underline attribute to the selected text.
list end
 
Remember, you can also use SHIFT+LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW to select or deselect characters in the same way you use CTRL+LEFT ARROW or
CTRL+RIGHT ARROW to select or deselect words. For example: you may wish to underline only a few letters in a word, so, you might position the cursor at
the beginning of the word and arrow to the first letter in the word which you wish to underline. You could then press and hold the
SHIFT key down and begin pressing the
RIGHT ARROW key until the desired letters are selected. You could then issue the underline command to change the attribute of those characters so that
they are underlined.
 
You can also press CTRL+U and begin entering text into your document. As is the case with the Bold and Italics attributes, the text will be underlined.
To discontinue underlining the text, press
CTRL+U again.
 
Creating Headings
 
It is very easy to apply heading styles to a line of text, or create headings as you enter text.
To create a new heading as you enter text:
 
list of 4 items
1 Place the cursor on a blank line within the document.
2 Press CTRL+ALT and the number of the heading level which you wish to create, using the numbers from 1 through 6.
for example: to create a heading at level 1, you would press CTRL+ALT+1.
3 Enter the text you wish to include in the heading.
4 Press ENTER to go to a new line and cause the heading attribute to be discontinued.
list end
 
If you wish to make already existing text into a heading:
 
list of 2 items
1 Place your cursor on the line of text you wish to turn into a heading.
2 Press ctrl+alt+1 TO APPLY THE HEADING LEVEL 1 STYLE TO THE TEXT.
list end
 
To remove a formatting style from selected text, press CTRL+ALT+0
 
Justifying Text
 
Justifying text is done using the same techniques we have already explored. To set left justified text, press CTRL+SHIFT+L. After pressing this command,
the text you enter will be left justified. To Center text you can either press
CRL+SHIFT+E and begin entering text, or you can select text which you wish to be centered, such as a heading or a title, and press
CTRL+SHIFT+E. If you wish to have text right justified, use the CTRL+SHIFT+R command and begin entering text.
 
Remember, these and many other editing and formatting options are available in the Google Docs menus. Refer back to Lesson One for more information about
navigating the menus. Also, refer to the shortcut key help within Google Docs for specific shortcut commands.
 
Downloading Your Google Document in another Format
 
It can be very useful to download your Google Docs Document onto your hard drive in a format other than google Docs. This may be especially true if you
are mostly concerned with reading documents shared with you via Google Docs. You can download your currently open document in a number of formats or even
open the document immediately in Microsoft Word for instant viewing as a "read-only" document.
 
Downloading a Document into Microsoft Word Format
list of 10 items
1 Press ALT+SHIFT+F from within the open document to move to the files menu.
2 Arrow down to the "Download As" submenu.
3 Press RIGHT ARROW to open the submenu.
The available formats include :
list of 6 items nesting level 1
◦ Microsoft Word (.docx)
◦ OpenDocument format (.odt)
◦ Rich Text Format (.rtf)
◦ PDF Document (.pdf)
◦ Plain Text (.txt)
◦ Web Page (.html, zipped)
list end nesting level 1
4 Use the UP or DOWN arrow keys to select the format in which you wish to download the file.
5 Press ENTER
6 Press ALT+N to view the Toolbar notification.
7 Use TAB to move to the action you wish to take.
8 Tab to the "Save" split button if you wish to save the document to your hard drive
9 Press DOWN ARROW to select "Save As" and press ENTER.
10 Use the Save As dialog to download the document to a folder of your choice.
list end
 
Notice that the first action available to you after pressing ALT+N is to open the document. Pressing ENTER on this option will immediately open the document
in Microsoft Word. You can then read the document, and, if you wish, use Word's own Save As function to save a copy of the document.
 
Adding a Comment to a Document
 
If you are collaborating on a document, you may wish to add a question, comment or a note about the document content. These comments can be viewed by everybody
working on the document and responses and changes can be made accordingly. Google Docs lets you read through all of the comments as a thread, so you will
be able to view and respond to this running dialog as work on the document proceeds.
To add a comment to a document:
 
list of 6 items
1 Move your cursor to the line containing the text about which you wish to comment.
2 Select the text to which you are referring in your comment. If you don't select the text, the first word in the line on which your cursor is located
will appear as the "Selected text" in the comment.
3 Press CTRL+ALT+M
4 The comment dialog opens and focus is placed in an edit field where you can type your comment.
5 After entering the text of your comment, press TAB to navigate to the Comment button.
6 Press ENTER to post your comment.
list end
 
Reading Comments Within a Document
 
There are two ways to read comments. The first method is to press CTRL+ALT+N followed by C to move through the document from one comment to the next, however,
this command does not currently work with JAWS.
The second way to view comments is by reading through the Comments Discussion dialog. This dialog contains all comments, listed in order from the beginning
to the end of the document. The virtual cursor must be turned on to view this dialog. If the dialog opens and you can't read the contents, press
INSERT+Z to enable the virtual cursor.
 
list of 3 items
1 Press CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+A to open the Comments discussion dialog.
2 Use the DOWN ARROW to read through the comments.
3 Press SPACE to activate the action buttons.
list end
 
Real time Collaboration
 
When you and others are working on a document at the same time, JAWS should announce when a new collaborator joins the group. You can see who is currently
working on the document by doing the following:
 
list of 4 items
1 Press ALT+SHIFT+F to open the File menu.
2 Press SHIFT+TAB to move to the collaborators' names.
3 You will be presented with a list of all current collaborators.
4 Press ENTER on the person's name to move to the location in the document where the person is currently editing.
list end
 
Renaming a Google Docs File in Google Drive
 
We will perform this task from within Google Drive. You must be in the Files List area in order to rename a document.
To rename a Google Docs document:
 
list of 6 items
1 Use the UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW keys to select the file you wish to rename.
2 Press A to go to the Action menu.
3 Press DOWN ARROW until you reach "Rename." and press ENTER to activate the item.
4 A dialog opens and you may enter the new file name for your document.
5 The current file name is displayed in the edit field, however, when you begin to type the new name, the old name is overwritten.
6 Press TAB to move to the OK button and press ENTER to complete the rename process.
list end
 
Removing a File From Google Drive
list of 4 items
1 Select the file to be removed from the Files list.
2 Press A to open the Action menu.
3 Arrow to Remove (since it is the last item on the list, it will be quickest to use the UP ARROW key).
4 Press Enter.
list end
 
If you decide you didn't want to remove the file, you can press CTRL+Z to "undo" the removal.
 
Viewing Files Shared With You
 
You must change what is displayed in the Items area of Google Drive to view files which others have shared with you.
Press GN to go to the Navigation area. This list allows you to change what is displayed in the Items area depending upon the category of file you select.
Arrow down to "Shared With Me" and press
ENTER. Focus will return to the Items Area and only files which others have shared with you will be visible.
If you want the files which appear in the "Shared With Me" list to appear in your regular Files area, you will have to add them to your Google drive. This
task is performed from within the Action menu.
 
list of 6 items
1 After selecting the shared file you wish to add to your Google drive, press a to move focus to the Action menu.
2 Press DOWN ARROW until you select "Add to My Drive."
3 Press ENTER
4 A dialog opens.
The elements included in the dialog are:
list of 5 items nesting level 1
◦ A list of any "child" folders which your Google Drive may contain.
Use this list to select a sub-folder to which to add the shared file.
◦ A "Create folder button, which allows you to create a child folder.
◦ A Cancel button.
◦ A Move button.
◦ A Close button.
list end nesting level 1
5 If you wish, select a child folder, then press TAB. until you reach the Move button.
6 Press ENTER to add the file.
list end
 
If you press ENTER on the "Add star" item in the Actions area the document will be highlighted, or flagged with a star, setting it apart from other documents.
If you press
GN to go to the Navigation area, where you select the file category to be viewed, you will find that starred files is one of the selections, along with
"My Drive," "Shared with me," "Google Photos," "Recent" and "Trash."
 
Press GN to go to the Navigation area and select "My Drive," the first item in the list, and press ENTER. The list of files in your Google Drive folder
appears and, if you just added a file to it, the newly added file will appear in the files list.

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Google drive/docs
 
David, could you post a list of keyboard shortcuts that work with Google docs ?

Re: Accessibility of Amazon Fire TV Stick

Nermin
 

Hi,
 
as far as I know, some Fire Sticks have a screen reader built in already. The hacked ones can use Talkback if I’m not mistaken, so you could have the standard Android screenreader on them.
 
Regards,
Nermin
 

From: Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Amazon Fire TV Stick
 

Also, does anyone know if a hacked fire stick is at all accessible as well?

 

From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@...]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 6:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessibility of Amazon Fire TV Stick

 

Hi!

 

Does anyone know anything about accessibility for the Amazon Fire TV Stick?  For example, is there a web controller app for it (not for a phone but rather a PC based one)?

 

Thanks,

Richard
Re: Accessibility of Amazon Fire TV Stick

Cristóbal
 

Also, does anyone know if a hacked fire stick is at all accessible as well?

 

From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@...]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 6:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessibility of Amazon Fire TV Stick

 

Hi!

 

Does anyone know anything about accessibility for the Amazon Fire TV Stick?  For example, is there a web controller app for it (not for a phone but rather a PC based one)?

 

Thanks,

Richard
Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

Cindy Ray <cindyray@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeanette McAllister [mailto:jeanette@aheartstaffing.com]
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 7:40 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

I have a Yeah, but that is part of the problem. Why do you want a device that you need constant sighted assiance with. I got a Kindle once, not a Kindle Fire, and I called Amazon to get it going. But you had to manipulate its speech in order to make it work. It was cumbersome. I didn't think Kindle used Voice Over. I thought that was an Apple product. Of course I don't know. Of course the Kindle Fire is newer than my Kindle was.
Cindy
kindle fire that has voiceover and I love it; unfortunately someone who is sighted needs to set up voiceover, once that's done you're good to go. They're fairly inexpensive. I think mine was around $50...

Dr. Jeanette McAllister
757-346-0708

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray@gmail.com> wrote:

A lot of major titles are available on BookShare. It is still not always possible to get something you need without using iBooks or KIndl e.
Cindy


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Coverdell [mailto:rmcover74@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 4:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

I use bookshare.org and it's very easy to use. I never plan to get a kendall. To sign up you just need to provide them proof of disability and pay the applicable fees and then it's a $50.00 fee per year and the downloads are instant. No need for scanning with an openbook or anything.
MOst major titles are available.
On 12/31/15, Charles Krugman <ckrugman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
that’s nice but I don’t have an IPhone and don’t intend on getting one.
Chuck

From: Cindy Ray
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for
kendle for pc?

I use the iPhone to do Kindle. It works quite nicely.



Cindy





From: Charles Krugman [mailto:ckrugman@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for
kendle for pc?



the accessible version of Kindle for PC hasn’t been updated by
Kindle/Amazon for anything beyond Windows 7. I had a similar
experience when trying to use it a couple of months ago with Windows
10 and had to forego participating in a book discussion group as I
didn’t have time to scan the 350 page book. I contacted Amazon about
this and while a customer service rep took my complaint and escalated it there has been no action.

Chuck



From: David Ingram

Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 9:55 AM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?



Hi list members, I’d like to know if there are jaws scripts for
kindle for pc? I’ve downloaded the ap but I’m having problems with
getting things to work. I can be reached at dingram269@earthlink.net. Thank you.
Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

Jeanette McAllister
 

I have a kindle fire that has voiceover and I love it; unfortunately someone who is sighted needs to set up voiceover, once that's done you're good to go. They're fairly inexpensive. I think mine was around $50...

Dr. Jeanette McAllister
757-346-0708

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray@gmail.com> wrote:

A lot of major titles are available on BookShare. It is still not always possible to get something you need without using iBooks or KIndl e.
Cindy


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Coverdell [mailto:rmcover74@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 4:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

I use bookshare.org and it's very easy to use. I never plan to get a kendall. To sign up you just need to provide them proof of disability and pay the applicable fees and then it's a $50.00 fee per year and the downloads are instant. No need for scanning with an openbook or anything.
MOst major titles are available.
On 12/31/15, Charles Krugman <ckrugman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
that’s nice but I don’t have an IPhone and don’t intend on getting one.
Chuck

From: Cindy Ray
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for
kendle for pc?

I use the iPhone to do Kindle. It works quite nicely.



Cindy





From: Charles Krugman [mailto:ckrugman@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for
kendle for pc?



the accessible version of Kindle for PC hasn’t been updated by
Kindle/Amazon for anything beyond Windows 7. I had a similar
experience when trying to use it a couple of months ago with Windows
10 and had to forego participating in a book discussion group as I
didn’t have time to scan the 350 page book. I contacted Amazon about
this and while a customer service rep took my complaint and escalated it there has been no action.

Chuck



From: David Ingram

Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 9:55 AM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?



Hi list members, I’d like to know if there are jaws scripts for kindle
for pc? I’ve downloaded the ap but I’m having problems with getting
things to work. I can be reached at dingram269@earthlink.net. Thank you.
Re: grammatical issues

Alice Dampman Humel <alicedh@...>
 

actually, no, I did not miss his gracious apology, his apology came in after and as a reply to my comments, and I also responded to his apology in what I hope was an equally gracious manner…and I’m probably getting myself in hotter water with the mods, but sometimes, human considerations at least temporarily outweigh list rules.  

On Jan 1, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:

You must have missed Douglas Dexheimer’s gracious apology.
 
For the record, there’s always going to be a tension on a global list like this between honoring foreigners who speak English better than I, for one, speak their language, and the concerns many people have about literacy among English speakers.
 
From: Alice Dampman Humel [mailto:alicedh@...] 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:01 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: grammatical issues
 
I think I can help Mr. Dexheimer solve the mysteries of his grammatical issue. 
Karim’s messages are actually crystal clear. He asked for help finding a link to JAWS 17. He is thanking those who helped him figure something out. He went out of his way to even apologize for being a bother, which he of course was not at all, for isn’t that what this list is for, to help each other? He wished us all a good night. In other words, although the spelling might have been somewhat quirky, the tone of his messages was pleasant, friendly, and charming. 
Now we get to Mr. Dexheimer's messages, also with no capitalization and some questionable turns of phrase. Your messages, their deficiencies notwithstanding, were also clear. The tone was quite unfriendly and mean-spirited. 
Now the $64,000 question? whose messages would I rather read? 
Particularly when I read Mr. Dexheimer's sig info. 
He is in a position of some influence as the Chief of Braille Production at something called Born-Again Productions. 
I wonder how his fellow religious would feel about his decidedly uncharitable treatment of someone who has been nothing but nice to us? 
Happy New Year.  
 
On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...> wrote:


A rose by any other name would smell as sweet 

-----Original Message-----
From: Angel [mailto:angel238@...] 
Sent: December-29-15 6:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: grammatical issues

Rarely does any person on many of the lists to  which I subscribe use perfect grammar.  If we set standards for certain on the list, perhaps we all should get a dictionary and a grammar book, and take a refresher course in the proper use of the grammar of the language in which we write. 
However, as we are all adult, and aren't expected to be treated as children; it might behoove us all to learn tolerance of others without an equal grasp or appreciation of the rules of English grammar, and punctuation. 
Especially, as correct usage of grammar seems strange to the ears and to the minds of today's speakers or writers of the language.  Each on any informal list should make all to feel as comfortable as we can.
After all, we are all having to deal with blindness.  Which causes discomfort among many sighted people having to interact with us.  If we can't find among others of us with the same challenge a safe environment with which to interact, and to ask questions without negative judgment, what hope is there for us all, I ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: grammatical issues


I think that what I am saying is off topic, but I think this is rude and intolerant behavior on the part of American English speaking people. First off, English is clearly a second language for Karim, who may well be a male. 
It is possible that this person is struggling to learn the language. I can't see the treatment of this person being helpful in any way. We can all figure out what Karim wants if carefully reading the messages. If we can't, then let someone else do it.
Respectfully,
Cindy Lou Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: douglas richard dexheimer [mailto:drichardd@...]
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 11:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: grammatical issues

may i ask what language or dialect karim uses, or if she knows the correct spellings of english words?  perhaps she could get a dictionary of english words, or take a course in grammar and spelling.  her messages would be easier to understand if she learns the correct spelling of words, or someone could interpret for her.  thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/28/2015 11:38 AM, karim sidi wrote:

hi i have hard your advais from all of you i am very sory for bing a 
bother but i will lisen to all of you thank you i have got the assar 
from theose gev me the ansar thank have a good evning

from karim sidi good nite

On 12/28/15, douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:

did you reply to my message about plugins by mistake?  you could have 
just generated a new message if this is a different topic.  my 
current jaws license only made me eligible for jaws 13 or earlier.
also could you try to check your spelling when writing, to avoid 
confusion?  thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/28/2015 10:03 AM, karim sidi wrote:

hi i am ok can i ask for feiviar if sumwane has a link for jaws 17?
the one i have in my luptop is jwas 15 i am the one useing if any 
one has can you send to me?

On 12/28/15, douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:

i tried refreshing firefox and changing some about:config settings; 
but while most of the sites using flash were resolved, i can't seem 
to fix this particular one:
http://www.rezonline.org/
no matter what i change in the config settings, including disable 
protected mode, this message about adobe flash crashing persists, 
and no audio is heard.  what config changes do i need to make this 
site work again?  also the webvisum plugin got disabled after 
refreshing firefox and changing the xpinstall "required" settings 
from true to false.  is there a way to downgrade firefox to the 
version before the current 43.0, so things work normally like 
before december 16th?  if firefox is soon to become unworkable, 
what browser is most accessible with nvda or jaws?
   i can't seem to add new bookmarks in chrome, and the screen 
keeps jumping to an empty window and nvda keeps saying "unknown, 
unknown..."
ie tends to freeze or become unresponsive, and some audio sites 
that stream in chrome or ff don't stream in ie.  thanks for your help.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/22/2015 9:14 PM, Mike B. wrote:

HiBill & Douglas,
Hopefully this article will possibly help with your queries.
*Hacking Firefox: The secrets of about:config*
**
*Ever since its debut, Firefox has garnered a reputation for being 
an enormously customizable program, both through its add-on 
architecture and its internal settings. In fact, many of Firefox's 
settings aren't exposed through the Tools > Options menu; the only 
way to change them is to edit them manually. In this article, 
we'll explore some of the most useful Firefox settings that you 
can change on your own and that aren't normally available through 
the program's graphical interface. * *The closest analogy to how 
Firefox manages its internal settings is the Windows Registry.
Each setting, or preference, is given a name and stored as a 
string (text), integer (number) or Boolean (true/false) value.
However, Firefox doesn't keep its settings in the registry, but in 
a file called prefs.js. You can edit prefs.js directly, but it's 
often easier to change the settings through the browser window.* 
*Type about:config in the address bar and press Enter, and you'll 
see all the settings currently enumerated in prefs.js, listed in 
alphabetical order. To narrow down the hundreds of configuration 
preferences to just the few you need, type a search term into the
Filter: bar. (Click the Show All button or just clear the Filter:
bar to get the full list back again.)* *The about:config page.
clear.gif
The about:config page. (
Click for larger view.)*
*To edit a preference, double-click on the name and you'll be 
prompted for the new value. If you double-click on an entry that 
has a Boolean value, it'll just switch from true to false or vice 
versa; double-click again to revert to the original setting. Not 
all changes take effect immediately, so if you want to be 
absolutely certain a given change is in effect, be sure to close 
and reopen Firefox after making a change.* *Editing a preference.
clear.gif
Editing a preference. (
Click for larger view.)*
*Note that not every setting in about:config exists by default.
Some of them have to be created manually. If you want to add a new 
preference, right-click somewhere on the page and select New, then 
select the type of item to create (String, Integer or Boolean) and 
supply the name and value.* *Before you begin *
*clear.gif*
*Here are a few caveats to keep in mind as you explore and tweak:
* *Not everyone will get the same benefits by enabling these 
tweaks. This is especially true for changing the network settings.
If you habitually visit sites that don't allow a large number of 
connections per client, for instance, you won't see much benefit 
from raising the number of connections per
server.*
*Some hacks may have a limited shelf life. With each successive 
release of Firefox, the need for tweaking any of the 
performance-related config settings (like the network settings) 
may dwindle as Firefox becomes more self-tuning based on feedback 
from real-world usage scenarios. In short, what works now may not 
always work in the future -- and that might not be a bad
thing.*
*clear.gif*
*Hacking Firefox*
*The secrets of about:config*
*clear.gif
list of 6 items
• Before you begin
• Speed up page display
• Have tabbed browsing your way
• Make the user interface behave
• Hack network connections
• Stop memory hogging
list end
clear.gif *
*Keep a log of everything you change, or make backups. If you 
tweak something now and notice bizarre activity in a week, you'll 
want to be able to track back to what was altered and undo it.
Firefox does show which about:config changes have been set 
manually, but this isn't always the most accurate way to find out 
what you changed. * *To make a backup of your preferences in 
Firefox, just make a copy of the file prefs.js, which is kept in 
your Firefox profile folder. If you mess something up, you can 
always copy this file back in. (Be sure to shut down Firefox 
before making a copy of prefs.js or moving a copy back into the 
profile
folder!)*
*In Windows XP, the profile folder is* *\Documents and 
Settings\<username>\Application 
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<profile ID>.default\* *In Windows 
Vista, this folder is* 
*\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<profi
le
ID>.default\*
*Note that Application Data and AppData are hidden folders by 
default, so they may not show up unless you force Explorer to show 
hidden objects. (Open the Control Panel, double-click Folder 
Options, select the View tab, select "Show hidden files and 
folders" and click OK.)* *In Mac OS X, the profile folder is* 
*<username>/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/<profile
ID>.default/*
*and in Linux it's*
*~/.mozilla/firefox/<profile ID>.default/* *but on those platforms 
it's usually quicker simply to search for
prefs.js.*
*Alternatively, you can use the handy Firefox Extension Backup 
Extension
   (FEBE). It backs up not only the prefs.js file but just about 
every other thing in Firefox -- extensions, themes, cookies, form 
history and so on.*
**
*Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
*
Take care.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
*From:* douglas richard dexheimer <mailto:drichardd@...>
*To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: problems with firefox plugins and sites using flash

i'm afraid if i refresh firefox i may lose the add-ons that allow 
me to hear my favorite stations and other audio sites; this is the 
last thing i want to do at this time of year, as i might miss my 
holiday stuff.
would i have to install each add-on one by one, including 
webvisum, flash, vlc and other embedded players, etc.?  or would 
they all install automatically upon refreshing the browser?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 12/22/2015 9:28 AM, Robert Logue wrote:

Try refreshing Firefox. You may need to delete the config
file too.


Help>troubleshooting information>Give Firefox a tune up
Refresh Firefox…

On 12/19/2015 10:39 AM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:

happy holidays all.  recently i've been experiencing adobe flash
player crashes on certain streaming audio sites. it started last
wednesday; i've tried several different settings in
see if this would fix the issue.  sometimes it would, other
times it

wouldn't.  this crash problem only applies to certain sites
that use

flash content, not all.  also the webvisum plugin no longer
seems to

work; i don't hear any popping noises when loading a page in
firefox.

i'm not sure which about:configuration settings i need to
make all web

pages using flash behave properly, or how to reactivate the
webvisum

plugin.  worse case scenario: if i have to uninstall and
reinstall

firefox (43.0.1) to restore default plugin settings, i
wouldn't know

where to find the download link or file for reinstalling it;
what

about saving all my bookmarks and passwords, so i won't have
to start

all over from scratch, or try to select "forgot
username/password"
on

pages where i don't remember those credentials?  i know a
tech savvy

friend who lives here who could provide some feedback.  thanks.


Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe
flash player

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:02:31 -0700
From: Bill White <billwhite92701@...
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
CC: douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...

Flash protected mode is a security feature for Firefox which is
implemented
by Adobe for Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or
above).
This

feature is enabled by default, to make it difficult for
attackers to

access
your computer.



Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in
Firefox, such
as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially
true for

users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use
accessibility tools.




You can turn off Flash protected mode by following these steps:



1. Press Control plus l to open the Location bar, type
press Enter.



. The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning
page may

appear.
Click I'll be careful, I promise! to continue to the



2. Search for

dom.ipc.plugins.flash.disable-protected-mode

in the list of preferences.



3. Press Enter on the preference to toggle its value from
false to true.




4. Press CONTROL plus W to close the about:config window.



5. Close Firefox, and re-launch Firefox for the new setting
to take

effect.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw"
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."
Cc: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe
flash player




where do i find the checkbox to enable or disable flash
protection?


Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 9/21/2015 9:38 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:

Great sleuthing, astounding Adobe message.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf
Of Robert

Logue via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robert Logue
Subject: Re: latest firefox version that supports adobe
flash player


I'm curious about turning off Flash and why we should
disable it.

Didn't
know labels worked better in Youtube without it.  Thing is
do we

disable
or set to ask to activate?

I decided to look in to this.  Found a checkbox for Flash
in Firefox

that wasn't labeled so I read more and found something we
should know

about.  I'll paste it below without comment.

Adobe Flash protected mode in Firefox | Firefox Help


(Redirected from
Enable Flash Protected Mode Settings on Firefox)

Flash protected mode
  is a security feature for Firefox which is implemented by
Adobe
for

Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or above).
This feature is

enabled by
default, to make it difficult for attackers to access your
computer.


Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance
problems in Firefox,

such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is
especially true for

users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use
accessibility tools.




On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:

No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had
said you were

getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have
been the

problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with
video embedded

sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me
was installing

an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the
recommendation of a

friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems
stopped.
You

can download it at www.getadblock.com
<http://www.getadblock.com> if you want it. It has fixed

most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:

I can still listen to the stations or videos in question
on my

iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on
my
win7

computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her
browsers--sometimes

it works, other times not.  other browsers may get
unresponsive, or

show the controls but no sound is heard from the
embedded player.

I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable."
why would

flash's security diminish with later versions of
firefox--i.e., why

did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older
windows xp

computer, but not in the current version on my new
windows 7 machine?


Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:

Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago.
Trying

again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the
buttons

weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the
case with

Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a
message that

Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in
Flash and

Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of
Flash.
If

it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@... <mailto:brad@...>


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw
wrote:

did anyone get this yet?  I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:

using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that
supports

afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube,
spotify, live365,

video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players,
etc.) I get a

popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed.  the same
site may or

may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE.
uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things.  thanks
for your

feedback.


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Re: grammatical issues

Alice Dampman Humel <alicedh@...>
 

I’ve been informed this thread was shut down, which I did not know this morning, but since I made my remarks publicly, which may have also been wrong, I’ll risk censure from the mods by replying publicly and to say that your apology is happily and readily accepted, and I apologize if I, in my turn, was out of line. 
I did not make my remarks to “scold” you or chastise you, but rather to, well, what, enlighten, perhaps? 
I’m glad we’re all good again, and we all make mistakes, we all have weaknesses, and we all want to do better in every way we can, and we all  want to give help when we can and ask for help when we need it, so no hard feelings?  

On Jan 1, 2016, at 10:52 AM, douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:

my deepest apologies for being so inconsiderate and uncaring.  i'll try to be more thoughtful and tolerant of others' linguistic manners. thanks for pointing out my weaknesses in this issue, and being tolerant and understanding of my language/writing preferences.  happy new year all!  god bless everyone!

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 1/1/2016 7:01 AM, Alice Dampman Humel wrote:
I think I can help Mr. Dexheimer solve the mysteries of his grammatical
issue.
Karim’s messages are actually crystal clear. He asked for help finding a
link to JAWS 17. He is thanking those who helped him figure something
out. He went out of his way to even apologize for being a bother, which
he of course was not at all, for isn’t that what this list is for, to
help each other? He wished us all a good night. In other words, although
the spelling might have been somewhat quirky, the tone of his messages
was pleasant, friendly, and charming.
Now we get to Mr. Dexheimer's messages, also with no capitalization and
some questionable turns of phrase. Your messages, their deficiencies
notwithstanding, were also clear. The tone was quite unfriendly and
mean-spirited.
Now the $64,000 question? whose messages would I rather read?
Particularly when I read Mr. Dexheimer's sig info.
He is in a position of some influence as the Chief of Braille Production
at something called Born-Again Productions.
I wonder how his fellow religious would feel about his decidedly
uncharitable treatment of someone who has been nothing but nice to us?
Happy New Year.

On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...
<mailto:kevinthourigan@...>> wrote:

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet

-----Original Message-----
From: Angel [mailto:angel238@...]
Sent: December-29-15 6:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: grammatical issues

Rarely does any person on many of the lists to  which I subscribe use
perfect grammar.  If we set standards for certain on the list, perhaps
we all should get a dictionary and a grammar book, and take a
refresher course in the proper use of the grammar of the language in
which we write.
However, as we are all adult, and aren't expected to be treated as
children; it might behoove us all to learn tolerance of others without
an equal grasp or appreciation of the rules of English grammar, and
punctuation.
Especially, as correct usage of grammar seems strange to the ears and
to the minds of today's speakers or writers of the language.  Each on
any informal list should make all to feel as comfortable as we can.
After all, we are all having to deal with blindness.  Which causes
discomfort among many sighted people having to interact with us.  If
we can't find among others of us with the same challenge a safe
environment with which to interact, and to ask questions without
negative judgment, what hope is there for us all, I ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@... <mailto:cindyray@...>>
To: <jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: grammatical issues


I think that what I am saying is off topic, but I think this is rude
and intolerant behavior on the part of American English speaking
people. First off, English is clearly a second language for Karim, who
may well be a male.
It is possible that this person is struggling to learn the language. I
can't see the treatment of this person being helpful in any way. We
can all figure out what Karim wants if carefully reading the messages.
If we can't, then let someone else do it.
Respectfully,
Cindy Lou Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: douglas richard dexheimer [mailto:drichardd@...]
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 11:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: grammatical issues

may i ask what language or dialect karim uses, or if she knows the
correct spellings of english words?  perhaps she could get a
dictionary of english words, or take a course in grammar and spelling.
her messages would be easier to understand if she learns the correct
spelling of words, or someone could interpret for her.  thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 12/28/2015 11:38 AM, karim sidi wrote:
hi i have hard your advais from all of you i am very sory for bing a
bother but i will lisen to all of you thank you i have got the assar
from theose gev me the ansar thank have a good evning

from karim sidi good nite

On 12/28/15, douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:
did you reply to my message about plugins by mistake?  you could have
just generated a new message if this is a different topic.  my
current jaws license only made me eligible for jaws 13 or earlier.
also could you try to check your spelling when writing, to avoid
confusion?  thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/28/2015 10:03 AM, karim sidi wrote:
hi i am ok can i ask for feiviar if sumwane has a link for jaws 17?
the one i have in my luptop is jwas 15 i am the one useing if any
one has can you send to me?

On 12/28/15, douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:
i tried refreshing firefox and changing some about:config settings;
but while most of the sites using flash were resolved, i can't seem
to fix this particular one:
http://www.rezonline.org/
no matter what i change in the config settings, including disable
protected mode, this message about adobe flash crashing persists,
and no audio is heard.  what config changes do i need to make this
site work again?  also the webvisum plugin got disabled after
refreshing firefox and changing the xpinstall "required" settings
from true to false.  is there a way to downgrade firefox to the
version before the current 43.0, so things work normally like
before december 16th?  if firefox is soon to become unworkable,
what browser is most accessible with nvda or jaws?
  i can't seem to add new bookmarks in chrome, and the screen
keeps jumping to an empty window and nvda keeps saying "unknown,
unknown..."
ie tends to freeze or become unresponsive, and some audio sites
that stream in chrome or ff don't stream in ie.  thanks for your help.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/22/2015 9:14 PM, Mike B. wrote:
HiBill & Douglas,
Hopefully this article will possibly help with your queries.
*Hacking Firefox: The secrets of about:config*
**
*Ever since its debut, Firefox has garnered a reputation for being
an enormously customizable program, both through its add-on
architecture and its internal settings. In fact, many of Firefox's
settings aren't exposed through the Tools > Options menu; the only
way to change them is to edit them manually. In this article,
we'll explore some of the most useful Firefox settings that you
can change on your own and that aren't normally available through
the program's graphical interface. * *The closest analogy to how
Firefox manages its internal settings is the Windows Registry.
Each setting, or preference, is given a name and stored as a
string (text), integer (number) or Boolean (true/false) value.
However, Firefox doesn't keep its settings in the registry, but in
a file called prefs.js. You can edit prefs.js directly, but it's
often easier to change the settings through the browser window.*
*Type about:config in the address bar and press Enter, and you'll
see all the settings currently enumerated in prefs.js, listed in
alphabetical order. To narrow down the hundreds of configuration
preferences to just the few you need, type a search term into the
Filter: bar. (Click the Show All button or just clear the Filter:
bar to get the full list back again.)* *The about:config page.
clear.gif
The about:config page. (
Click for larger view.)*
*To edit a preference, double-click on the name and you'll be
prompted for the new value. If you double-click on an entry that
has a Boolean value, it'll just switch from true to false or vice
versa; double-click again to revert to the original setting. Not
all changes take effect immediately, so if you want to be
absolutely certain a given change is in effect, be sure to close
and reopen Firefox after making a change.* *Editing a preference.
clear.gif
Editing a preference. (
Click for larger view.)*
*Note that not every setting in about:config exists by default.
Some of them have to be created manually. If you want to add a new
preference, right-click somewhere on the page and select New, then
select the type of item to create (String, Integer or Boolean) and
supply the name and value.* *Before you begin *
*clear.gif*
*Here are a few caveats to keep in mind as you explore and tweak:
* *Not everyone will get the same benefits by enabling these
tweaks. This is especially true for changing the network settings.
If you habitually visit sites that don't allow a large number of
connections per client, for instance, you won't see much benefit
from raising the number of connections per
server.*
*Some hacks may have a limited shelf life. With each successive
release of Firefox, the need for tweaking any of the
performance-related config settings (like the network settings)
may dwindle as Firefox becomes more self-tuning based on feedback
from real-world usage scenarios. In short, what works now may not
always work in the future -- and that might not be a bad
thing.*
*clear.gif*
*Hacking Firefox*
*The secrets of about:config*
*clear.gif
list of 6 items
• Before you begin
• Speed up page display
• Have tabbed browsing your way
• Make the user interface behave
• Hack network connections
• Stop memory hogging
list end
clear.gif *
*Keep a log of everything you change, or make backups. If you
tweak something now and notice bizarre activity in a week, you'll
want to be able to track back to what was altered and undo it.
Firefox does show which about:config changes have been set
manually, but this isn't always the most accurate way to find out
what you changed. * *To make a backup of your preferences in
Firefox, just make a copy of the file prefs.js, which is kept in
your Firefox profile folder. If you mess something up, you can
always copy this file back in. (Be sure to shut down Firefox
before making a copy of prefs.js or moving a copy back into the
profile
folder!)*
*In Windows XP, the profile folder is* *\Documents and
Settings\<username>\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<profile ID>.default\* *In Windows
Vista, this folder is*
*\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<profi
le
ID>.default\*
*Note that Application Data and AppData are hidden folders by
default, so they may not show up unless you force Explorer to show
hidden objects. (Open the Control Panel, double-click Folder
Options, select the View tab, select "Show hidden files and
folders" and click OK.)* *In Mac OS X, the profile folder is*
*<username>/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/<profile
ID>.default/*
*and in Linux it's*
*~/.mozilla/firefox/<profile ID>.default/* *but on those platforms
it's usually quicker simply to search for
prefs.js.*
*Alternatively, you can use the handy Firefox Extension Backup
Extension
  (FEBE). It backs up not only the prefs.js file but just about
every other thing in Firefox -- extensions, themes, cookies, form
history and so on.*
**
*Take care.
Mike
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Take care.
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* douglas richard dexheimer <mailto:drichardd@...>
*To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: problems with firefox plugins and sites using flash

i'm afraid if i refresh firefox i may lose the add-ons that allow
me to hear my favorite stations and other audio sites; this is the
last thing i want to do at this time of year, as i might miss my
holiday stuff.
would i have to install each add-on one by one, including
webvisum, flash, vlc and other embedded players, etc.?  or would
they all install automatically upon refreshing the browser?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 12/22/2015 9:28 AM, Robert Logue wrote:
Try refreshing Firefox. You may need to delete the config
file too.

Help>troubleshooting information>Give Firefox a tune up
Refresh Firefox…

On 12/19/2015 10:39 AM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
happy holidays all.  recently i've been experiencing adobe flash
player crashes on certain streaming audio sites. it started last
wednesday; i've tried several different settings in
about:config to
see if this would fix the issue.  sometimes it would, other
times it
wouldn't.  this crash problem only applies to certain sites
that use
flash content, not all.  also the webvisum plugin no longer
seems to
work; i don't hear any popping noises when loading a page in
firefox.
i'm not sure which about:configuration settings i need to
make all web
pages using flash behave properly, or how to reactivate the
webvisum
plugin.  worse case scenario: if i have to uninstall and
reinstall
firefox (43.0.1) to restore default plugin settings, i
wouldn't know
where to find the download link or file for reinstalling it;
what
about saving all my bookmarks and passwords, so i won't have
to start
all over from scratch, or try to select "forgot
username/password"
on
pages where i don't remember those credentials?  i know a
tech savvy
friend who lives here who could provide some feedback.  thanks.


Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe
flash player
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:02:31 -0700
From: Bill White <billwhite92701@...
<mailto:billwhite92701@...>>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
<jfw@... <mailto:jfw@...>>
CC: douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...
<mailto:drichardd@...>>

Flash protected mode is a security feature for Firefox which is
implemented
by Adobe for Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or
above).
This
feature is enabled by default, to make it difficult for
attackers to
access
your computer.



Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in
Firefox, such
as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially
true for
users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use
accessibility tools.



You can turn off Flash protected mode by following these steps:



1. Press Control plus l to open the Location bar, type
about:config and
press Enter.



. The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning
page may
appear.
Click I'll be careful, I promise! to continue to the
about:config page.



2. Search for

dom.ipc.plugins.flash.disable-protected-mode

in the list of preferences.



3. Press Enter on the preference to toggle its value from
false to true.



4. Press CONTROL plus W to close the about:config window.



5. Close Firefox, and re-launch Firefox for the new setting
to take
effect.

Bill White billwhite92701@...
<mailto:billwhite92701@...>

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw"
<jfw@... <mailto:jfw@...>>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."
<jfw@... <mailto:jfw@...>>
Cc: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...
<mailto:drichardd@...>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe
flash player


where do i find the checkbox to enable or disable flash
protection?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 9/21/2015 9:38 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Great sleuthing, astounding Adobe message.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf
Of Robert
Logue via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robert Logue
Subject: Re: latest firefox version that supports adobe
flash player

I'm curious about turning off Flash and why we should
disable it.
Didn't
know labels worked better in Youtube without it.  Thing is
do we
disable
or set to ask to activate?

I decided to look in to this.  Found a checkbox for Flash
in Firefox
that wasn't labeled so I read more and found something we
should know
about.  I'll paste it below without comment.

Adobe Flash protected mode in Firefox | Firefox Help


(Redirected from
Enable Flash Protected Mode Settings on Firefox)

Flash protected mode
 is a security feature for Firefox which is implemented by
Adobe
for
Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or above).
This feature is
enabled by
default, to make it difficult for attackers to access your
computer.

Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance
problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is
especially true for
users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use
accessibility tools.



On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had
said you were
getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have
been the
problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with
video embedded
sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me
was installing
an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the
recommendation of a
friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems
stopped.
You
can download it at www.getadblock.com
<http://www.getadblock.com> if you want it. It has fixed
most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
I can still listen to the stations or videos in question
on my
iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on
my
win7
computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her
browsers--sometimes
it works, other times not.  other browsers may get
unresponsive, or
show the controls but no sound is heard from the
embedded player.
I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable."
why would
flash's security diminish with later versions of
firefox--i.e., why
did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older
windows xp
computer, but not in the current version on my new
windows 7 machine?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:
Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago.
Trying
again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the
buttons
weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the
case with
Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a
message that
Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in
Flash and
Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of
Flash.
If
it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@... <mailto:brad@...>


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw
wrote:
did anyone get this yet?  I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that
supports
afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube,
spotify, live365,
video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players,
etc.) I get a
popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed.  the same
site may or
may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE.
uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things.  thanks
for your
feedback.

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Re: a tool to remove sql server 2014

James Homuth
 

This would be a better question for the Blindtech list, sir.

James,
List Admin

On Fri, January 1, 2016 4:01 am, marvin hunkin wrote:
Hi. Does any one know of a tool that will completely get rid of sql server
2014 and all components?

Having a hard time trying to remove it, could not run the sql management
studio, and need to repair, but when I try to repair, cannot find the
setup
file, and so have to remove. Would not let me remove, as had a previous
uinstall, so had to do a reboot.

Any ideas.

Marvin.
Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

Cindy Ray <cindyray@...>
 

A lot of major titles are available on BookShare. It is still not always possible to get something you need without using iBooks or KIndl e.
Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Coverdell [mailto:rmcover74@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 4:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

I use bookshare.org and it's very easy to use. I never plan to get a kendall. To sign up you just need to provide them proof of disability and pay the applicable fees and then it's a $50.00 fee per year and the downloads are instant. No need for scanning with an openbook or anything.
MOst major titles are available.
On 12/31/15, Charles Krugman <ckrugman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
that’s nice but I don’t have an IPhone and don’t intend on getting one.
Chuck

From: Cindy Ray
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for
kendle for pc?

I use the iPhone to do Kindle. It works quite nicely.



Cindy





From: Charles Krugman [mailto:ckrugman@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for
kendle for pc?



the accessible version of Kindle for PC hasn’t been updated by
Kindle/Amazon for anything beyond Windows 7. I had a similar
experience when trying to use it a couple of months ago with Windows
10 and had to forego participating in a book discussion group as I
didn’t have time to scan the 350 page book. I contacted Amazon about
this and while a customer service rep took my complaint and escalated it there has been no action.

Chuck



From: David Ingram

Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 9:55 AM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?



Hi list members, I’d like to know if there are jaws scripts for kindle
for pc? I’ve downloaded the ap but I’m having problems with getting
things to work. I can be reached at dingram269@earthlink.net. Thank you.
Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

Ryan Coverdell
 

I use bookshare.org and it's very easy to use. I never plan to get a
kendall. To sign up you just need to provide them proof of disability
and pay the applicable fees and then it's a $50.00 fee per year and
the downloads are instant. No need for scanning with an openbook or
anything.
MOst major titles are available.

On 12/31/15, Charles Krugman <ckrugman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
that’s nice but I don’t have an IPhone and don’t intend on getting one.
Chuck

From: Cindy Ray
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for
pc?

I use the iPhone to do Kindle. It works quite nicely.



Cindy





From: Charles Krugman [mailto:ckrugman@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for
pc?



the accessible version of Kindle for PC hasn’t been updated by Kindle/Amazon
for anything beyond Windows 7. I had a similar experience when trying to use
it a couple of months ago with Windows 10 and had to forego participating in
a book discussion group as I didn’t have time to scan the 350 page book. I
contacted Amazon about this and while a customer service rep took my
complaint and escalated it there has been no action.

Chuck



From: David Ingram

Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 9:55 AM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?



Hi list members, I’d like to know if there are jaws scripts for kindle for
pc? I’ve downloaded the ap but I’m having problems with getting things to
work. I can be reached at dingram269@earthlink.net. Thank you.
Re: Catalan Problem Solved

Adrian Spratt
 

I'm going by what FS says in the text accompanying the language detection option in JAWS quick settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 12:23 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalan Problem Solved

It was not off in my Outlook until I unchecked it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 12:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalan Problem Solved

Language detection is off by default in Outlook, on by default in Word.



Gary’s explanation for what happened here makes the most sense. I wish there were a quick and easy way to find and remove such codes because you never know when they’re going to rear their heads again at the worst moments.



From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:31 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved



Gary:



I have always had language detect change unchecked in Jaws, but the Catalan designation was still spoken in the headings of some of my Word documents until I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.



The documents in question are some of my course syllabi, which I have created and modified myself as needed.



The involved headings are headings that I have created or modified over the years, and the Catalan designation just started showing up recently.



I think it might have something to do with the font in the documents, but since I have never gotten any complaints from students or others who use the syllabi, I guess I’ll just leave well enough alone.



It is a very curious issue, however.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





From: Gary King [mailto:w4wkz@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 5:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved



Tom,

When Language Detection is enabled in JAWS, language tags in a Word document or in the HTML code of a web page cause JAWS to speak the name of the language designated by these tags. Somehow, Catalan language tags have been introduced into your documents.



Did you enter all of the information in the documents yourself, or was some of it copied from other sources such as the Internet? If these tags were in copied material, they might have been pasted into your documents.



Keep in mind that the Catalan language tags are still in your documents even though you have stopped JAWS from reporting their presence. I guess if sighted readers of the documents haven't said anything about the headings looking strange though, the presence of the tags don't really matter.



Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net <mailto:w4wkz@bellsouth.net>

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved



Brian:



The documents in question were copies of some of my course syllabi and initial class handout materials. And, trust me, no part of them was in Spanish!! (smile)



What might have triggered the Catalan designation by Jaws is still a mystery to me, although I do wonder if it had something to do with a particular font style or something similar.



The catalan designation was spoken for various headings throughout the documents, and went away when I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.



I’m using Windows 7, Office 2010, and Jaws 16 here.



Dr. Tom Behler









From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved



Tom, just for my curiosity, do you have any idea what JAWS was detecting that it thought was in the Catalan dialect of Spanish? This seems really odd since my presumption is that the documents in question are not in any form of Spanish (and on that I could be entirely wrong).

Brian
Re: Catalan Problem Solved

Tom Behler
 

I hear you, Adrian.

 

But, at least I know how to fix it now, at least as far as reading and editing documents is concerned.

 

Happy New Year to all!

 

Dr. Tom Behler

 

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 12:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalan Problem Solved

 

Language detection is off by default in Outlook, on by default in Word.

 

Gary’s explanation for what happened here makes the most sense. I wish there were a quick and easy way to find and remove such codes because you never know when they’re going to rear their heads again at the worst moments.

 

From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:31 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Gary:

 

I have always had language detect change unchecked in Jaws, but the Catalan designation was still spoken in the headings of some of my Word documents until I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.

 

The documents in question are some of my course syllabi, which I have created and modified myself as needed.

 

The involved headings are headings that I have created or modified over the years, and the Catalan designation just started showing up recently.

 

I think it might have something to do with the font in the documents, but since I have never gotten any complaints from students or others who use the syllabi, I guess I’ll just leave well enough alone.

 

It is a very curious issue, however.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: Gary King [mailto:w4wkz@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 5:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Tom,

When Language Detection is enabled in JAWS, language tags in a Word document or in the HTML code of a web page cause JAWS to speak the name of the language designated by these tags.  Somehow, Catalan language tags have been introduced into your documents.

 

Did you enter all of the information in the documents yourself, or was some of it copied from other sources such as the Internet?  If these tags were in copied material, they might have been pasted into your documents.

 

Keep in mind that the Catalan language tags are still in your documents even though you have stopped JAWS from reporting their presence.  I guess if sighted readers of the documents haven't said anything about the headings looking strange though, the presence of the tags don't really matter.

 

Gary King
w4wkz@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Brian:

 

The documents in question were copies of some of my course syllabi and initial class handout materials.  And, trust me, no part of them was in Spanish!!  (smile)

 

What might have triggered the Catalan designation by Jaws is still a mystery to me, although I do wonder if it had something to do with a particular font style or something similar.

 

The catalan designation was spoken for various headings throughout the documents, and went away when I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.

 

I’m using Windows 7, Office 2010, and Jaws 16 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Tom, just for my curiosity, do you have any idea what JAWS was detecting that it thought was in the Catalan dialect of Spanish?   This seems really odd since my presumption is that the documents in question are not in any form of Spanish (and on that I could be entirely wrong).

Brian
Re: Catalan Problem Solved

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

It was not off in my Outlook until I unchecked it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 12:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalan Problem Solved

Language detection is off by default in Outlook, on by default in Word.



Gary’s explanation for what happened here makes the most sense. I wish there were a quick and easy way to find and remove such codes because you never know when they’re going to rear their heads again at the worst moments.



From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:31 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved



Gary:



I have always had language detect change unchecked in Jaws, but the Catalan designation was still spoken in the headings of some of my Word documents until I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.



The documents in question are some of my course syllabi, which I have created and modified myself as needed.



The involved headings are headings that I have created or modified over the years, and the Catalan designation just started showing up recently.



I think it might have something to do with the font in the documents, but since I have never gotten any complaints from students or others who use the syllabi, I guess I’ll just leave well enough alone.



It is a very curious issue, however.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





From: Gary King [mailto:w4wkz@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 5:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved



Tom,

When Language Detection is enabled in JAWS, language tags in a Word document or in the HTML code of a web page cause JAWS to speak the name of the language designated by these tags. Somehow, Catalan language tags have been introduced into your documents.



Did you enter all of the information in the documents yourself, or was some of it copied from other sources such as the Internet? If these tags were in copied material, they might have been pasted into your documents.



Keep in mind that the Catalan language tags are still in your documents even though you have stopped JAWS from reporting their presence. I guess if sighted readers of the documents haven't said anything about the headings looking strange though, the presence of the tags don't really matter.



Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net <mailto:w4wkz@bellsouth.net>

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved



Brian:



The documents in question were copies of some of my course syllabi and initial class handout materials. And, trust me, no part of them was in Spanish!! (smile)



What might have triggered the Catalan designation by Jaws is still a mystery to me, although I do wonder if it had something to do with a particular font style or something similar.



The catalan designation was spoken for various headings throughout the documents, and went away when I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.



I’m using Windows 7, Office 2010, and Jaws 16 here.



Dr. Tom Behler









From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved



Tom, just for my curiosity, do you have any idea what JAWS was detecting that it thought was in the Catalan dialect of Spanish? This seems really odd since my presumption is that the documents in question are not in any form of Spanish (and on that I could be entirely wrong).

Brian
Re: Catalan Problem Solved

Adrian Spratt
 

Language detection is off by default in Outlook, on by default in Word.

 

Gary’s explanation for what happened here makes the most sense. I wish there were a quick and easy way to find and remove such codes because you never know when they’re going to rear their heads again at the worst moments.

 

From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:31 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Gary:

 

I have always had language detect change unchecked in Jaws, but the Catalan designation was still spoken in the headings of some of my Word documents until I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.

 

The documents in question are some of my course syllabi, which I have created and modified myself as needed.

 

The involved headings are headings that I have created or modified over the years, and the Catalan designation just started showing up recently.

 

I think it might have something to do with the font in the documents, but since I have never gotten any complaints from students or others who use the syllabi, I guess I’ll just leave well enough alone.

 

It is a very curious issue, however.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: Gary King [mailto:w4wkz@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 5:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Tom,

When Language Detection is enabled in JAWS, language tags in a Word document or in the HTML code of a web page cause JAWS to speak the name of the language designated by these tags.  Somehow, Catalan language tags have been introduced into your documents.

 

Did you enter all of the information in the documents yourself, or was some of it copied from other sources such as the Internet?  If these tags were in copied material, they might have been pasted into your documents.

 

Keep in mind that the Catalan language tags are still in your documents even though you have stopped JAWS from reporting their presence.  I guess if sighted readers of the documents haven't said anything about the headings looking strange though, the presence of the tags don't really matter.

 

Gary King
w4wkz@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Brian:

 

The documents in question were copies of some of my course syllabi and initial class handout materials.  And, trust me, no part of them was in Spanish!!  (smile)

 

What might have triggered the Catalan designation by Jaws is still a mystery to me, although I do wonder if it had something to do with a particular font style or something similar.

 

The catalan designation was spoken for various headings throughout the documents, and went away when I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.

 

I’m using Windows 7, Office 2010, and Jaws 16 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Tom, just for my curiosity, do you have any idea what JAWS was detecting that it thought was in the Catalan dialect of Spanish?   This seems really odd since my presumption is that the documents in question are not in any form of Spanish (and on that I could be entirely wrong).

Brian
Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

Tom Behler
 

Gary:

 

I have always had language detect change unchecked in Jaws, but the Catalan designation was still spoken in the headings of some of my Word documents until I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.

 

The documents in question are some of my course syllabi, which I have created and modified myself as needed.

 

The involved headings are headings that I have created or modified over the years, and the Catalan designation just started showing up recently.

 

I think it might have something to do with the font in the documents, but since I have never gotten any complaints from students or others who use the syllabi, I guess I’ll just leave well enough alone.

 

It is a very curious issue, however.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: Gary King [mailto:w4wkz@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 5:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Tom,

When Language Detection is enabled in JAWS, language tags in a Word document or in the HTML code of a web page cause JAWS to speak the name of the language designated by these tags.  Somehow, Catalan language tags have been introduced into your documents.

 

Did you enter all of the information in the documents yourself, or was some of it copied from other sources such as the Internet?  If these tags were in copied material, they might have been pasted into your documents.

 

Keep in mind that the Catalan language tags are still in your documents even though you have stopped JAWS from reporting their presence.  I guess if sighted readers of the documents haven't said anything about the headings looking strange though, the presence of the tags don't really matter.

 

Gary King
w4wkz@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Brian:

 

The documents in question were copies of some of my course syllabi and initial class handout materials.  And, trust me, no part of them was in Spanish!!  (smile)

 

What might have triggered the Catalan designation by Jaws is still a mystery to me, although I do wonder if it had something to do with a particular font style or something similar.

 

The catalan designation was spoken for various headings throughout the documents, and went away when I unchecked the language detect change option in MS Word.

 

I’m using Windows 7, Office 2010, and Jaws 16 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Catalyn Problem Solved

 

Tom, just for my curiosity, do you have any idea what JAWS was detecting that it thought was in the Catalan dialect of Spanish?   This seems really odd since my presumption is that the documents in question are not in any form of Spanish (and on that I could be entirely wrong).

Brian
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