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Re: Question about the Groups.io forum

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I like it the way it is - last on top. I probably would get off the list, if I had to wade through the threads to the latest one at the bottom or jump to the bottom and work up to the first of the last message.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:45 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about the Groups.io forum

I realize that we have people participating here via e-mail list and others, like myself, using the Groups.io website specific to this forum. This would apply strictly to online forum access.

Is there any way to make threads show with messages in reverse chronological order - newest first? As threads get longer and longer it becomes more and more tedious to work through the pages, and I generally am looking only for the last several contributions since I've read the earlier ones on threads I follow anyway. This setting is available on many online forums, but I cannot seem to locate it here. But the fact that I can't locate it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

If there's a way to make the threads be presented with the newest messages first, working back to the oldest, I'd love to hear what that is.

Brian


Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Laura Richardson
 

Hi Amit,

Thank you for this information ...... I will try this later today and let you know how it works.

Laura

-----Original Message-----
From: amit aggarwal [mailto:aggarwal.amit444@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:46 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Laura,
can you see your picture located in documents?
if so, you can use these steps instead of brows button found under facebook.
1. navigate to your picture you'd like to post.
2. hold down shift and press application key.
3. use down arrow until you find copy as path.
4. hit enter and close documents window.
5. go to Facebook and click on brows button.
6. now in filename edit combo, paste the path you copyed using ctrl-v.
hope that helps.
Amit


On 1/1/16, Louise Johnson <herclouise@...> wrote:
Hi yes this answer would be a help as I would like to take pictures
and post them also. I use Jaws 16 windows 8.1 and I use the moble
Facebook sight. I can figure out some ideas but nothing works Louise
and princess Kiara


-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Richardson [mailto:laurakr65@...]
Sent: December 31, 2015 1:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Amit,

Thanks for taking the time to help me with this. I was sent a picture
as an attachment. I saved the attachment (when I save attachments it
automatically saves it to my documents). When I’m on Facebook trying
to post this picture I can’t figure out how to find it to post. I
click on browse but haven’t been able to figure out how to get to that
picture to post it. Do I need to move the picture from documents to
somewhere else in order to post it to Facebook?

Laura





-----Original Message-----
From: amit aggarwal [mailto:aggarwal.amit444@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 12:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Laura,
login to your account, edit what you want to post, and use add photos
button.
hope that helps,
Amit

On 12/30/15, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@...> wrote:
Hello,



I use Facebook from my laptop via the mobile site (m.facebook.com) as
it is much easier to navigate than the regular FB site. I have
Windows 7 and Jaws 15.



Is it possible to post pictures on Facebook through the mobile site?
If not, how do you post pictures from the computer to Facebook? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



Laura

























lists.the-jdh.com mailing list memberships reminder

douglas richard dexheimer
 

how do i stop these monthly reminders now that the old list is extinct?


Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...


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Accessibility of Amazon Fire TV Stick

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

Does anyone know anything about accessibility for the Amazon Fire TV Stick?  For example, is there a web controller app for it (not for a phone but rather a PC based one)?

 

Thanks,

Richard


order in inbox

judith bron
 

I’m sure this has been covered before but I didn’t take notice and now the problem is here.  How do I get Outlook to show messages in ascending order?  Thanks, JB


Re: underline detection, jaws

Ann Byrne
 

Go into the JAWS speech and sounds manager and check out the schemes there. Or press insert+alt+s to get a list of the speech and sound schemes. Whack enter on the one you want. If you use speech and sounds manager, the scheme will stay active till you change it; if you use insert+alt+s, it will stay active till you shut down JAWS.

good luck!

At 07:28 AM 1/1/2016, you wrote:
Hi all,
Is there a way to make jaws read underline words with a different voice when we are reading text?
I need to know witch words are underline on a text line. When I am reading lines of text. I was thinking that maybe jaws has a way to let us know when we are reading text, changing the voice or the pitch of the voice, that those words are underline. Anybody know if it is possible?
Thanks in advance and wonderful year 2016.
,



underline detection, jaws

Pablo Morales
 

Hi all,

Is there a way to make jaws read underline words  with a different voice when we are reading text?

I need to know witch words are underline on a text line. When I am reading lines of text. I was thinking that maybe jaws has a way to let us know when we are reading text, changing the voice or the pitch of the voice, that those words are underline. Anybody know if it is possible?

Thanks in advance and wonderful year 2016.

,

 

 


Re: grammatical issues

Alice Dampman Humel <alicedh@...>
 

I think I can help Mr. Dexheimer solve the mysteries of his grammatical issue. 
Karim’s messages are actually crystal clear. He asked for help finding a link to JAWS 17. He is thanking those who helped him figure something out. He went out of his way to even apologize for being a bother, which he of course was not at all, for isn’t that what this list is for, to help each other? He wished us all a good night. In other words, although the spelling might have been somewhat quirky, the tone of his messages was pleasant, friendly, and charming. 
Now we get to Mr. Dexheimer's messages, also with no capitalization and some questionable turns of phrase. Your messages, their deficiencies notwithstanding, were also clear. The tone was quite unfriendly and mean-spirited. 
Now the $64,000 question? whose messages would I rather read? 
Particularly when I read Mr. Dexheimer's sig info. 
He is in a position of some influence as the Chief of Braille Production at something called Born-Again Productions. 
I wonder how his fellow religious would feel about his decidedly uncharitable treatment of someone who has been nothing but nice to us? 
Happy New Year.  

On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...> wrote:

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet

-----Original Message-----
From: Angel [mailto:angel238@...]
Sent: December-29-15 6:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: grammatical issues

Rarely does any person on many of the lists to  which I subscribe use perfect grammar.  If we set standards for certain on the list, perhaps we all should get a dictionary and a grammar book, and take a refresher course in the proper use of the grammar of the language in which we write.
However, as we are all adult, and aren't expected to be treated as children; it might behoove us all to learn tolerance of others without an equal grasp or appreciation of the rules of English grammar, and punctuation.
Especially, as correct usage of grammar seems strange to the ears and to the minds of today's speakers or writers of the language.  Each on any informal list should make all to feel as comfortable as we can.
After all, we are all having to deal with blindness.  Which causes discomfort among many sighted people having to interact with us.  If we can't find among others of us with the same challenge a safe environment with which to interact, and to ask questions without negative judgment, what hope is there for us all, I ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: grammatical issues


I think that what I am saying is off topic, but I think this is rude and intolerant behavior on the part of American English speaking people. First off, English is clearly a second language for Karim, who may well be a male.
It is possible that this person is struggling to learn the language. I can't see the treatment of this person being helpful in any way. We can all figure out what Karim wants if carefully reading the messages. If we can't, then let someone else do it.
Respectfully,
Cindy Lou Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: douglas richard dexheimer [mailto:drichardd@...]
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 11:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: grammatical issues

may i ask what language or dialect karim uses, or if she knows the correct spellings of english words?  perhaps she could get a dictionary of english words, or take a course in grammar and spelling.  her messages would be easier to understand if she learns the correct spelling of words, or someone could interpret for her.  thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/28/2015 11:38 AM, karim sidi wrote:
hi i have hard your advais from all of you i am very sory for bing a
bother but i will lisen to all of you thank you i have got the assar
from theose gev me the ansar thank have a good evning

from karim sidi good nite

On 12/28/15, douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:
did you reply to my message about plugins by mistake?  you could have
just generated a new message if this is a different topic.  my
current jaws license only made me eligible for jaws 13 or earlier.
also could you try to check your spelling when writing, to avoid
confusion?  thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/28/2015 10:03 AM, karim sidi wrote:
hi i am ok can i ask for feiviar if sumwane has a link for jaws 17?
the one i have in my luptop is jwas 15 i am the one useing if any
one has can you send to me?

On 12/28/15, douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:
i tried refreshing firefox and changing some about:config settings;
but while most of the sites using flash were resolved, i can't seem
to fix this particular one:
http://www.rezonline.org/
no matter what i change in the config settings, including disable
protected mode, this message about adobe flash crashing persists,
and no audio is heard.  what config changes do i need to make this
site work again?  also the webvisum plugin got disabled after
refreshing firefox and changing the xpinstall "required" settings
from true to false.  is there a way to downgrade firefox to the
version before the current 43.0, so things work normally like
before december 16th?  if firefox is soon to become unworkable,
what browser is most accessible with nvda or jaws?
   i can't seem to add new bookmarks in chrome, and the screen
keeps jumping to an empty window and nvda keeps saying "unknown,
unknown..."
ie tends to freeze or become unresponsive, and some audio sites
that stream in chrome or ff don't stream in ie.  thanks for your help.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@...

On 12/22/2015 9:14 PM, Mike B. wrote:
HiBill & Douglas,
Hopefully this article will possibly help with your queries.
*Hacking Firefox: The secrets of about:config*
**
*Ever since its debut, Firefox has garnered a reputation for being
an enormously customizable program, both through its add-on
architecture and its internal settings. In fact, many of Firefox's
settings aren't exposed through the Tools > Options menu; the only
way to change them is to edit them manually. In this article,
we'll explore some of the most useful Firefox settings that you
can change on your own and that aren't normally available through
the program's graphical interface. * *The closest analogy to how
Firefox manages its internal settings is the Windows Registry.
Each setting, or preference, is given a name and stored as a
string (text), integer (number) or Boolean (true/false) value.
However, Firefox doesn't keep its settings in the registry, but in
a file called prefs.js. You can edit prefs.js directly, but it's
often easier to change the settings through the browser window.*
*Type about:config in the address bar and press Enter, and you'll
see all the settings currently enumerated in prefs.js, listed in
alphabetical order. To narrow down the hundreds of configuration
preferences to just the few you need, type a search term into the
Filter: bar. (Click the Show All button or just clear the Filter:
bar to get the full list back again.)* *The about:config page.
clear.gif
The about:config page. (
Click for larger view.)*
*To edit a preference, double-click on the name and you'll be
prompted for the new value. If you double-click on an entry that
has a Boolean value, it'll just switch from true to false or vice
versa; double-click again to revert to the original setting. Not
all changes take effect immediately, so if you want to be
absolutely certain a given change is in effect, be sure to close
and reopen Firefox after making a change.* *Editing a preference.
clear.gif
Editing a preference. (
Click for larger view.)*
*Note that not every setting in about:config exists by default.
Some of them have to be created manually. If you want to add a new
preference, right-click somewhere on the page and select New, then
select the type of item to create (String, Integer or Boolean) and
supply the name and value.* *Before you begin *
*clear.gif*
*Here are a few caveats to keep in mind as you explore and tweak:
* *Not everyone will get the same benefits by enabling these
tweaks. This is especially true for changing the network settings.
If you habitually visit sites that don't allow a large number of
connections per client, for instance, you won't see much benefit
from raising the number of connections per
server.*
*Some hacks may have a limited shelf life. With each successive
release of Firefox, the need for tweaking any of the
performance-related config settings (like the network settings)
may dwindle as Firefox becomes more self-tuning based on feedback
from real-world usage scenarios. In short, what works now may not
always work in the future -- and that might not be a bad
thing.*
*clear.gif*
*Hacking Firefox*
*The secrets of about:config*
*clear.gif
list of 6 items
• Before you begin
• Speed up page display
• Have tabbed browsing your way
• Make the user interface behave
• Hack network connections
• Stop memory hogging
list end
clear.gif *
*Keep a log of everything you change, or make backups. If you
tweak something now and notice bizarre activity in a week, you'll
want to be able to track back to what was altered and undo it.
Firefox does show which about:config changes have been set
manually, but this isn't always the most accurate way to find out
what you changed. * *To make a backup of your preferences in
Firefox, just make a copy of the file prefs.js, which is kept in
your Firefox profile folder. If you mess something up, you can
always copy this file back in. (Be sure to shut down Firefox
before making a copy of prefs.js or moving a copy back into the
profile
folder!)*
*In Windows XP, the profile folder is* *\Documents and
Settings\<username>\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<profile ID>.default\* *In Windows
Vista, this folder is*
*\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<profi
le
ID>.default\*
*Note that Application Data and AppData are hidden folders by
default, so they may not show up unless you force Explorer to show
hidden objects. (Open the Control Panel, double-click Folder
Options, select the View tab, select "Show hidden files and
folders" and click OK.)* *In Mac OS X, the profile folder is*
*<username>/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/<profile
ID>.default/*
*and in Linux it's*
*~/.mozilla/firefox/<profile ID>.default/* *but on those platforms
it's usually quicker simply to search for
prefs.js.*
*Alternatively, you can use the handy Firefox Extension Backup
Extension
   (FEBE). It backs up not only the prefs.js file but just about
every other thing in Firefox -- extensions, themes, cookies, form
history and so on.*
**
*Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
*
Take care.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
*From:* douglas richard dexheimer <mailto:drichardd@...>
*To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: problems with firefox plugins and sites using flash

i'm afraid if i refresh firefox i may lose the add-ons that allow
me to hear my favorite stations and other audio sites; this is the
last thing i want to do at this time of year, as i might miss my
holiday stuff.
would i have to install each add-on one by one, including
webvisum, flash, vlc and other embedded players, etc.?  or would
they all install automatically upon refreshing the browser?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 12/22/2015 9:28 AM, Robert Logue wrote:
Try refreshing Firefox. You may need to delete the config
file too.

Help>troubleshooting information>Give Firefox a tune up
Refresh Firefox…

On 12/19/2015 10:39 AM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
happy holidays all.  recently i've been experiencing adobe flash
player crashes on certain streaming audio sites. it started last
wednesday; i've tried several different settings in
about:config to
see if this would fix the issue.  sometimes it would, other
times it
wouldn't.  this crash problem only applies to certain sites
that use
flash content, not all.  also the webvisum plugin no longer
seems to
work; i don't hear any popping noises when loading a page in
firefox.
i'm not sure which about:configuration settings i need to
make all web
pages using flash behave properly, or how to reactivate the
webvisum
plugin.  worse case scenario: if i have to uninstall and
reinstall
firefox (43.0.1) to restore default plugin settings, i
wouldn't know
where to find the download link or file for reinstalling it;
what
about saving all my bookmarks and passwords, so i won't have
to start
all over from scratch, or try to select "forgot
username/password"
on
pages where i don't remember those credentials?  i know a
tech savvy
friend who lives here who could provide some feedback.  thanks.


Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe
flash player
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:02:31 -0700
From: Bill White <billwhite92701@...
<mailto:billwhite92701@...>>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
<jfw@... <mailto:jfw@...>>
CC: douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@...
<mailto:drichardd@...>>

Flash protected mode is a security feature for Firefox which is
implemented
by Adobe for Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or
above).
This
feature is enabled by default, to make it difficult for
attackers to
access
your computer.



Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in
Firefox, such
as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially
true for
users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use
accessibility tools.



You can turn off Flash protected mode by following these steps:



1. Press Control plus l to open the Location bar, type
about:config and
press Enter.



. The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning
page may
appear.
Click I'll be careful, I promise! to continue to the
about:config page.



2. Search for

dom.ipc.plugins.flash.disable-protected-mode

in the list of preferences.



3. Press Enter on the preference to toggle its value from
false to true.



4. Press CONTROL plus W to close the about:config window.



5. Close Firefox, and re-launch Firefox for the new setting
to take
effect.

Bill White billwhite92701@...
<mailto:billwhite92701@...>

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw"
<jfw@... <mailto:jfw@...>>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."
<jfw@... <mailto:jfw@...>>
Cc: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@...
<mailto:drichardd@...>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe
flash player


where do i find the checkbox to enable or disable flash
protection?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 9/21/2015 9:38 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Great sleuthing, astounding Adobe message.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf
Of Robert
Logue via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robert Logue
Subject: Re: latest firefox version that supports adobe
flash player

I'm curious about turning off Flash and why we should
disable it.
Didn't
know labels worked better in Youtube without it.  Thing is
do we
disable
or set to ask to activate?

I decided to look in to this.  Found a checkbox for Flash
in Firefox
that wasn't labeled so I read more and found something we
should know
about.  I'll paste it below without comment.

Adobe Flash protected mode in Firefox | Firefox Help


(Redirected from
Enable Flash Protected Mode Settings on Firefox)

Flash protected mode
  is a security feature for Firefox which is implemented by
Adobe
for
Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or above).
This feature is
enabled by
default, to make it difficult for attackers to access your
computer.

Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance
problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is
especially true for
users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use
accessibility tools.



On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had
said you were
getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have
been the
problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with
video embedded
sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me
was installing
an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the
recommendation of a
friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems
stopped.
You
can download it at www.getadblock.com
<http://www.getadblock.com> if you want it. It has fixed
most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
I can still listen to the stations or videos in question
on my
iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on
my
win7
computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her
browsers--sometimes
it works, other times not.  other browsers may get
unresponsive, or
show the controls but no sound is heard from the
embedded player.
I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable."
why would
flash's security diminish with later versions of
firefox--i.e., why
did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older
windows xp
computer, but not in the current version on my new
windows 7 machine?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:
Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago.
Trying
again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the
buttons
weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the
case with
Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a
message that
Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in
Flash and
Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of
Flash.
If
it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@... <mailto:brad@...>


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw
wrote:
did anyone get this yet?  I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@... <mailto:drichardd@...>

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that
supports
afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube,
spotify, live365,
video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players,
etc.) I get a
popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed.  the same
site may or
may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE.
uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things.  thanks
for your
feedback.

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Re: A question about ribbons

john.falter
 

Ribbons were introduced because Microsoft could think of no more enhancements to sell new versions of Word so changed the user interface.

On 12/31/2015 11:29 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
I'm retired, thus have lots of time to meander about on my laptop. Actually, I do use some shortcuts, and my menus are not all gone, as I said, using the programs that don't have ribbons.
I have nothing important to format, either; or to say, come to that.
But I do love my PC and get done what I need to do.

On 12/31/2015 10:20 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I've never understood the appeal of the ribbon system and it's a mystery
to me why it was ever introduced.  When Office 2007 came out it was as
much a tectonic shift for me as when Windows 8 came out and virtually
everything familiar about Windows disappeared with it.

I find you comment interesting in that most of my blind clients use
keyboard shortcuts, at least to bring up a menu (or enter a ribbon).  I
actually try to teach the keyboard shortcut "chains", e.g., Alt+F
followed by S for save or Alt+F followed by A for save as (and some
chains can get much longer), since for most "point and click" usage of a
menu is a non-starter.  I teach these as well in reference to the
ribbons, e.g., Alt+H followed by 1, to toggle bold formatting, for
things that a client uses really frequently and that they need to be
able to activate/deactivate with maximum speed.  I'm trying to imagine
how you go about, or went about (since full menus are long gone),
accessing the menu system where keyboard shortcuts would not be "step
one" at least.

Brian







Re: Can someone please tell me whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc!

Charles Krugman
 

to the best of my knowledge there are no JAWS scripts for the Kindle for PC. Please note correct spelling as it might help if you are trying to do a search for what you are looking for.
Chuck
 

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:22 AM
Subject: Can someone please tell me whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc!
 

Hi list members I’m using jaws 16 and I’d like to know for sure if there are jaws scripts for kindle for pc?  Where can I find them and how much are they if there is a cost associated with them?  I can be reached at dingram269@....  I am using windows 7 professional 64 bit on an amd processor.  Thank you for any information that you might have.


Re: Jaws 10 Virtual Viewer Keystroke

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Angel,
 
I changed the subject line to correspond to your question. The keystroke for virtualizing a window with Jaws 10 is, Insert / Jaws Key, Control, + W.  HTH
Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Angel
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

I do have a question about Jaws version 10.  I forgot the key stroke to turn
on the virtual viewer.  There are times when I find the virtual viewer most
useful.  I use to know the key stroke for turning it on.  But I have been
unsuccessful in finding it in the Jaws help tutorial for Jaws version 10.
So, if any of you can assist me with this I would be most greatful.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maria Campbell" <lucky1@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or
people who've used both here?


> This problem with the forms mode has been getting worse with later
> versions of JAWS.  It has gotten to the point where I leave my forms mode
> to manual, so that it is on when I press enter.  The word edit for text
> entry is heard no matter the state of the forms mode.
>
>
> On 12/31/2015 8:25 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
>> Adrian,
>>
>>          Your comment about "false enhancement" rings true, at least in
>> a way, even to me.  I can't tell you how many times I've had a client
>> land in an edit field, where that's not where I want (or they want) to
>> be and I've succumbed to saying something along the lines of, "We're
>> looking for a button, so hit 'B' and that will take you to the first
>> button on the screen."  Unfortunately, when you're in auto forms mode,
>> of course it doesn't do that and interprets the 'B' as you typing the
>> letter B.
>>
>>           Am I correct in my assumption that if the auto feature is
>> turned off, you will still get the announcement that you are indeed in
>> an edit field (or what have you), but you must hit a single Enter, which
>> switches you in to forms mode and that all typed characters after that
>> will be entered into the edit field, which you then have to hit Num Pad
>> Plus to shift out of forms mode and back to navigation mode?  Gads, but
>> that's a long-winded question that I don't quite know how to rephrase!!
>>
>>        As an unrelated aside, oldster that I am I still sometimes refer
>> to enter as  return, and I warn my clients that if they hear me say
>> return I mean enter.  I guess for anyone who ever used an electric
>> typewriter this definitely makes sense.   Thank heavens my really old
>> computer geek doesn't come out where I would say CR LF, which is short
>> for carriage return line feed!
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Sunny Day
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1@...
>
> Be patient with God:  Be patient with yourself:  Be patient with others.
>
>
>




Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

Paul D. J. Jenkins <pdjj6123@...>
 

Brian,

 

  Happy New Year!  Personally, I would recommend using E-Mail.  If a trouble ticket is submitted through the website, questions, will--or at least may--be asked of the user that do not even begin to apply to his or her situation.  Unfortunately, one must fill in such forms anyhow.

 

Good luck!

 

Paul Jenkins

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 19:15
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

 

Thanks for the continuing input, I appreciate it more than I can say.

Note to Maria:  I have not as yet even touched JAWS 17.  I've got two clients who are having some major problems with JAWS 15 and I'm slated to update both to JAWS 17 in the near future.  The one client is licensed to go up through the not-yet-in-existence JAWS 18, but JAWS 17 has been hateful about installing so I need to involve Freedom Scientific technical support on the next try.  I've typically not had this sort of crankiness with installation in the past.

Also, since this is the group that can answer this question best, do you all feel that it is a worthwhile exercise for me to teach my clients how to submit a trouble report via the Freedom Scientific website, or should I just encourage them to use e-mail and teach them "the essentials" about what must be included in a technical support request message?  Over time I have come to feel quite strongly that it is an essential skill to be able to interact with FS tech support completely independently since the end user is always going to encounter issues I never will when I'm training them and these aren't, in most cases, in the "optional to resolve" category.  What say you all?

Brian


Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

Angel
 

I do have a question about Jaws version 10. I forgot the key stroke to turn on the virtual viewer. There are times when I find the virtual viewer most useful. I use to know the key stroke for turning it on. But I have been unsuccessful in finding it in the Jaws help tutorial for Jaws version 10. So, if any of you can assist me with this I would be most greatful.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Maria Campbell" <lucky1@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?


This problem with the forms mode has been getting worse with later versions of JAWS. It has gotten to the point where I leave my forms mode to manual, so that it is on when I press enter. The word edit for text entry is heard no matter the state of the forms mode.


On 12/31/2015 8:25 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Adrian,

Your comment about "false enhancement" rings true, at least in
a way, even to me. I can't tell you how many times I've had a client
land in an edit field, where that's not where I want (or they want) to
be and I've succumbed to saying something along the lines of, "We're
looking for a button, so hit 'B' and that will take you to the first
button on the screen." Unfortunately, when you're in auto forms mode,
of course it doesn't do that and interprets the 'B' as you typing the
letter B.

Am I correct in my assumption that if the auto feature is
turned off, you will still get the announcement that you are indeed in
an edit field (or what have you), but you must hit a single Enter, which
switches you in to forms mode and that all typed characters after that
will be entered into the edit field, which you then have to hit Num Pad
Plus to shift out of forms mode and back to navigation mode? Gads, but
that's a long-winded question that I don't quite know how to rephrase!!

As an unrelated aside, oldster that I am I still sometimes refer
to enter as return, and I warn my clients that if they hear me say
return I mean enter. I guess for anyone who ever used an electric
typewriter this definitely makes sense. Thank heavens my really old
computer geek doesn't come out where I would say CR LF, which is short
for carriage return line feed!

Brian

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Louise Johnson <herclouise@...>
 

Hi thanks for this I will try it very soon Louise and princess Kiara

-----Original Message-----
From: amit aggarwal [mailto:aggarwal.amit444@...]
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:46 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Laura,
can you see your picture located in documents?
if so, you can use these steps instead of brows button found under facebook.
1. navigate to your picture you'd like to post.
2. hold down shift and press application key.
3. use down arrow until you find copy as path.
4. hit enter and close documents window.
5. go to Facebook and click on brows button.
6. now in filename edit combo, paste the path you copyed using ctrl-v.
hope that helps.
Amit


On 1/1/16, Louise Johnson <herclouise@...> wrote:
Hi yes this answer would be a help as I would like to take pictures
and post them also. I use Jaws 16 windows 8.1 and I use the moble
Facebook sight. I can figure out some ideas but nothing works Louise
and princess Kiara


-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Richardson [mailto:laurakr65@...]
Sent: December 31, 2015 1:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Amit,

Thanks for taking the time to help me with this. I was sent a picture
as an attachment. I saved the attachment (when I save attachments it
automatically saves it to my documents). When I’m on Facebook trying
to post this picture I can’t figure out how to find it to post. I
click on browse but haven’t been able to figure out how to get to that
picture to post it. Do I need to move the picture from documents to
somewhere else in order to post it to Facebook?

Laura





-----Original Message-----
From: amit aggarwal [mailto:aggarwal.amit444@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 12:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Laura,
login to your account, edit what you want to post, and use add photos
button.
hope that helps,
Amit

On 12/30/15, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@...> wrote:
Hello,



I use Facebook from my laptop via the mobile site (m.facebook.com) as
it is much easier to navigate than the regular FB site. I have
Windows 7 and Jaws 15.



Is it possible to post pictures on Facebook through the mobile site?
If not, how do you post pictures from the computer to Facebook? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



Laura

























Re: Creating column of dates in Word 2013

Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
 

Hi,

This is how I would do it.

 

Start 3 in a row for example 1/1/201, 1/8/2016, and 1/15/2016.  Then highlight the number of rows or columns that you want the series to go on.  For example a1:a52.  Once that is done do an alt+h, f, I, s.  This will put you into the fill area and into series.  When I tested it the information was already there for every 7 days and I tabbed down to ok.  I hope this helps.

 

 

Denver Dale

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Creating column of dates in Word 2013

 

Hi All,

 

Posting this for someone else hoping someone can help him:

 

Trying to create a running column  of dates edit; typed in Friday
January 1, 2016 and hit enter, hoping that Word would just insert the
next date, etc but it will not.  I've searched menus and cannot locate a
way to do this.
Isn't this possible, rather than my having to type all these dates manually?
Thanks for any help !
Danney Yates


Re: Posting photos to Facebook

amit aggarwal <aggarwal.amit444@...>
 

Hi Laura,
can you see your picture located in documents?
if so, you can use these steps instead of brows button found under facebook.
1. navigate to your picture you'd like to post.
2. hold down shift and press application key.
3. use down arrow until you find copy as path.
4. hit enter and close documents window.
5. go to Facebook and click on brows button.
6. now in filename edit combo, paste the path you copyed using ctrl-v.
hope that helps.
Amit

On 1/1/16, Louise Johnson <herclouise@...> wrote:
Hi yes this answer would be a help as I would like to take pictures and post
them also. I use Jaws 16 windows 8.1 and I use the moble Facebook sight. I
can figure out some ideas but nothing works Louise and princess Kiara


-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Richardson [mailto:laurakr65@...]
Sent: December 31, 2015 1:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Amit,

Thanks for taking the time to help me with this. I was sent a picture as an
attachment. I saved the attachment (when I save attachments it
automatically saves it to my documents). When I’m on Facebook trying to
post this picture I can’t figure out how to find it to post. I click on
browse but haven’t been able to figure out how to get to that picture to
post it. Do I need to move the picture from documents to somewhere else in
order to post it to Facebook?

Laura





-----Original Message-----
From: amit aggarwal [mailto:aggarwal.amit444@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 12:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Laura,
login to your account, edit what you want to post, and use add photos
button.
hope that helps,
Amit

On 12/30/15, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@...> wrote:
Hello,



I use Facebook from my laptop via the mobile site (m.facebook.com) as
it is much easier to navigate than the regular FB site. I have
Windows 7 and Jaws 15.



Is it possible to post pictures on Facebook through the mobile site?
If not, how do you post pictures from the computer to Facebook? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



Laura

























Re: A question about ribbons

Brad Martin
 

Brian,

I'm a little confused by the last post. Are you asking how one uses menu bars and/or ribbons without a keyboard shortcut? For menu bars at least, it was easy. You press the alt key, and JAWS says
menu bar. File
Pressing the right arrow yields things like
edit
view
insert
format
options
tools
help

If you right arrow enough times, the loop starts again with file.

(Menu taken from Thunderbird)
Pressing the down arrow opens the selected menu--file for instance, and down arrowing through the options causes JAWS to announce the selected one. "New, open, save as, etc."

Ribbons perplex me, because JAWS is happily reading the "tabs" but if I right arrow one too many times, I feel like I just stepped off a curb. In me, it creates a feeling that I'm walking across a balance beam and suddenly fall off.

Brad

On 12/31/2015 10:20 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I've never understood the appeal of the ribbon system and it's a mystery to me why it was ever introduced.  When Office 2007 came out it was as much a tectonic shift for me as when Windows 8 came out and virtually everything familiar about Windows disappeared with it.

I find you comment interesting in that most of my blind clients use keyboard shortcuts, at least to bring up a menu (or enter a ribbon).  I actually try to teach the keyboard shortcut "chains", e.g., Alt+F followed by S for save or Alt+F followed by A for save as (and some chains can get much longer), since for most "point and click" usage of a menu is a non-starter.  I teach these as well in reference to the ribbons, e.g., Alt+H followed by 1, to toggle bold formatting, for things that a client uses really frequently and that they need to be able to activate/deactivate with maximum speed.  I'm trying to imagine how you go about, or went about (since full menus are long gone), accessing the menu system where keyboard shortcuts would not be "step one" at least.

Brian



Re: A question about ribbons

Maria Campbell
 

I'm retired, thus have lots of time to meander about on my laptop. Actually, I do use some shortcuts, and my menus are not all gone, as I said, using the programs that don't have ribbons.
I have nothing important to format, either; or to say, come to that.
But I do love my PC and get done what I need to do.

On 12/31/2015 10:20 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I've never understood the appeal of the ribbon system and it's a mystery
to me why it was ever introduced. When Office 2007 came out it was as
much a tectonic shift for me as when Windows 8 came out and virtually
everything familiar about Windows disappeared with it.

I find you comment interesting in that most of my blind clients use
keyboard shortcuts, at least to bring up a menu (or enter a ribbon). I
actually try to teach the keyboard shortcut "chains", e.g., Alt+F
followed by S for save or Alt+F followed by A for save as (and some
chains can get much longer), since for most "point and click" usage of a
menu is a non-starter. I teach these as well in reference to the
ribbons, e.g., Alt+H followed by 1, to toggle bold formatting, for
things that a client uses really frequently and that they need to be
able to activate/deactivate with maximum speed. I'm trying to imagine
how you go about, or went about (since full menus are long gone),
accessing the menu system where keyboard shortcuts would not be "step
one" at least.

Brian

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: Amazon's at it again!

Gennie Eachus <geachus@...>
 

866-216-1072

 

I have not ever had this problem

 

From: Rayette Rucker [mailto:ruckerr9@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 2:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Amazon's at it again!

 

I'm having that same issue.

On 12/30/2015 2:50 PM, Sandra Streeter wrote:

Hi, everyone!

 

The same issue I wrote about previously with Amazon is recurring: a captia required when signing in, making the site entirely impossible to use. Does anyone have a phone # for Amazon so I can try to resolve this—AGAIN? Thanks!

 

 

 

Sandra
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(Les Miserables--the musical)

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Re: A question about ribbons

 

I've never understood the appeal of the ribbon system and it's a mystery to me why it was ever introduced.  When Office 2007 came out it was as much a tectonic shift for me as when Windows 8 came out and virtually everything familiar about Windows disappeared with it.

I find you comment interesting in that most of my blind clients use keyboard shortcuts, at least to bring up a menu (or enter a ribbon).  I actually try to teach the keyboard shortcut "chains", e.g., Alt+F followed by S for save or Alt+F followed by A for save as (and some chains can get much longer), since for most "point and click" usage of a menu is a non-starter.  I teach these as well in reference to the ribbons, e.g., Alt+H followed by 1, to toggle bold formatting, for things that a client uses really frequently and that they need to be able to activate/deactivate with maximum speed.  I'm trying to imagine how you go about, or went about (since full menus are long gone), accessing the menu system where keyboard shortcuts would not be "step one" at least.

Brian

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