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Re: Posting photos to Facebook

amit aggarwal <aggarwal.amit444@...>
 

Hi Laura,
can you see your picture located in documents?
if so, you can use these steps instead of brows button found under facebook.
1. navigate to your picture you'd like to post.
2. hold down shift and press application key.
3. use down arrow until you find copy as path.
4. hit enter and close documents window.
5. go to Facebook and click on brows button.
6. now in filename edit combo, paste the path you copyed using ctrl-v.
hope that helps.
Amit

On 1/1/16, Louise Johnson <herclouise@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi yes this answer would be a help as I would like to take pictures and post
them also. I use Jaws 16 windows 8.1 and I use the moble Facebook sight. I
can figure out some ideas but nothing works Louise and princess Kiara


-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Richardson [mailto:laurakr65@gmail.com]
Sent: December 31, 2015 1:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Amit,

Thanks for taking the time to help me with this. I was sent a picture as an
attachment. I saved the attachment (when I save attachments it
automatically saves it to my documents). When I’m on Facebook trying to
post this picture I can’t figure out how to find it to post. I click on
browse but haven’t been able to figure out how to get to that picture to
post it. Do I need to move the picture from documents to somewhere else in
order to post it to Facebook?

Laura





-----Original Message-----
From: amit aggarwal [mailto:aggarwal.amit444@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 12:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting photos to Facebook

Hi Laura,
login to your account, edit what you want to post, and use add photos
button.
hope that helps,
Amit

On 12/30/15, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,



I use Facebook from my laptop via the mobile site (m.facebook.com) as
it is much easier to navigate than the regular FB site. I have
Windows 7 and Jaws 15.



Is it possible to post pictures on Facebook through the mobile site?
If not, how do you post pictures from the computer to Facebook? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



Laura

























Re: A question about ribbons

Brad Martin
 

Brian,

I'm a little confused by the last post. Are you asking how one uses menu bars and/or ribbons without a keyboard shortcut? For menu bars at least, it was easy. You press the alt key, and JAWS says
menu bar. File
Pressing the right arrow yields things like
edit
view
insert
format
options
tools
help

If you right arrow enough times, the loop starts again with file.

(Menu taken from Thunderbird)
Pressing the down arrow opens the selected menu--file for instance, and down arrowing through the options causes JAWS to announce the selected one. "New, open, save as, etc."

Ribbons perplex me, because JAWS is happily reading the "tabs" but if I right arrow one too many times, I feel like I just stepped off a curb. In me, it creates a feeling that I'm walking across a balance beam and suddenly fall off.

Brad

On 12/31/2015 10:20 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I've never understood the appeal of the ribbon system and it's a mystery to me why it was ever introduced.  When Office 2007 came out it was as much a tectonic shift for me as when Windows 8 came out and virtually everything familiar about Windows disappeared with it.

I find you comment interesting in that most of my blind clients use keyboard shortcuts, at least to bring up a menu (or enter a ribbon).  I actually try to teach the keyboard shortcut "chains", e.g., Alt+F followed by S for save or Alt+F followed by A for save as (and some chains can get much longer), since for most "point and click" usage of a menu is a non-starter.  I teach these as well in reference to the ribbons, e.g., Alt+H followed by 1, to toggle bold formatting, for things that a client uses really frequently and that they need to be able to activate/deactivate with maximum speed.  I'm trying to imagine how you go about, or went about (since full menus are long gone), accessing the menu system where keyboard shortcuts would not be "step one" at least.

Brian



Re: A question about ribbons

Maria Campbell
 

I'm retired, thus have lots of time to meander about on my laptop. Actually, I do use some shortcuts, and my menus are not all gone, as I said, using the programs that don't have ribbons.
I have nothing important to format, either; or to say, come to that.
But I do love my PC and get done what I need to do.

On 12/31/2015 10:20 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I've never understood the appeal of the ribbon system and it's a mystery
to me why it was ever introduced. When Office 2007 came out it was as
much a tectonic shift for me as when Windows 8 came out and virtually
everything familiar about Windows disappeared with it.

I find you comment interesting in that most of my blind clients use
keyboard shortcuts, at least to bring up a menu (or enter a ribbon). I
actually try to teach the keyboard shortcut "chains", e.g., Alt+F
followed by S for save or Alt+F followed by A for save as (and some
chains can get much longer), since for most "point and click" usage of a
menu is a non-starter. I teach these as well in reference to the
ribbons, e.g., Alt+H followed by 1, to toggle bold formatting, for
things that a client uses really frequently and that they need to be
able to activate/deactivate with maximum speed. I'm trying to imagine
how you go about, or went about (since full menus are long gone),
accessing the menu system where keyboard shortcuts would not be "step
one" at least.

Brian

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Re: Amazon's at it again!

Gennie Eachus <geachus@...>
 

866-216-1072

 

I have not ever had this problem

 

From: Rayette Rucker [mailto:ruckerr9@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 2:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Amazon's at it again!

 

I'm having that same issue.

On 12/30/2015 2:50 PM, Sandra Streeter wrote:

Hi, everyone!

 

The same issue I wrote about previously with Amazon is recurring: a captia required when signing in, making the site entirely impossible to use. Does anyone have a phone # for Amazon so I can try to resolve this—AGAIN? Thanks!

 

 

 

Sandra
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(Les Miserables--the musical)

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Re: A question about ribbons

 

I've never understood the appeal of the ribbon system and it's a mystery to me why it was ever introduced.  When Office 2007 came out it was as much a tectonic shift for me as when Windows 8 came out and virtually everything familiar about Windows disappeared with it.

I find you comment interesting in that most of my blind clients use keyboard shortcuts, at least to bring up a menu (or enter a ribbon).  I actually try to teach the keyboard shortcut "chains", e.g., Alt+F followed by S for save or Alt+F followed by A for save as (and some chains can get much longer), since for most "point and click" usage of a menu is a non-starter.  I teach these as well in reference to the ribbons, e.g., Alt+H followed by 1, to toggle bold formatting, for things that a client uses really frequently and that they need to be able to activate/deactivate with maximum speed.  I'm trying to imagine how you go about, or went about (since full menus are long gone), accessing the menu system where keyboard shortcuts would not be "step one" at least.

Brian


Re: Question about the Groups.io forum

 

Dave,

        Uh, they don't for me.  Your reply is directly below mine, not above mine, on the Groups.io site for the JFW forum.  That's newest on the bottom.  On threads that span several pages the newest message, as they display for me, is always on the last page, so I have to go to the bottom of the first page, move to the next page, go to the bottom of that page, move to the next page, lather rinse repeat.

        If they're showing up newest first for you at least that gives me hope that there is a setting, somewhere, that I can set to make this happen for me.

Brian


a tool to remove sql server 2014

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. Does any one know of a tool that will completely get rid of sql server 2014 and all components?

Having a hard time trying to remove it, could not run the sql management studio, and need to repair, but when I try to repair, cannot find the setup file, and so have to remove. Would not let me remove, as had a previous uinstall, so had to do a reboot.

Any ideas.

Marvin.

 


Re: A question about ribbons

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Organomics and more visual appeal is all I ever heard why ribbons were introduced.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1@ct.metrocast.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:51 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: A question about ribbons

Brian, why did Microsoft, in its infinite wisdom, replace the drop-down old file, edit, view, tools, etc., menu bar with the what I consider, to be the evil ribbon system? All it seems to do is add layers that hides what used to be so much more easily accessed, at least by screen readers. I get lost in the damn layers, not knowing where I am or how to get out. Yes, I know the shortcut keys are still there, but as I said previously, I'm a menu person, not a shortcut person.
Consequently, I'll use any program that doesn't yet make use of the ribbons, such as Jart or NotePad for texting, and Thunderbird for email.
By the time ribbons take over the world, hopefully, I'll be able just to say what I want done, and it will be so.

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Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


A question about ribbons

Maria Campbell
 

Brian, why did Microsoft, in its infinite wisdom, replace the drop-down old file, edit, view, tools, etc., menu bar with the what I consider, to be the evil ribbon system? All it seems to do is add layers that hides what used to be so much more easily accessed, at least by screen readers. I get lost in the damn layers, not knowing where I am or how to get out. Yes, I know the shortcut keys are still there, but as I said previously, I'm a menu person, not a shortcut person.
Consequently, I'll use any program that doesn't yet make use of the ribbons, such as Jart or NotePad for texting, and Thunderbird for email.
By the time ribbons take over the world, hopefully, I'll be able just to say what I want done, and it will be so.

--

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@ct.metrocast.net

Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: Question about the Groups.io forum

Dave...
 


Brian,
 
If you're referring to the order of messages as they stack inside an ongoing message conversation, then they do get populated with the newest on top. Otherwise, the order of the messages in the folder or inbox is a function of the email client being used.
 
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 07:44 PM
Subject: Question about the Groups.io forum

I realize that we have people participating here via e-mail list and others, like myself, using the Groups.io website specific to this forum.  This would apply strictly to online forum access.

Is there any way to make threads show with messages in reverse chronological order - newest first?   As threads get longer and longer it becomes more and more tedious to work through the pages, and I generally am looking only for the last several contributions since I've read the earlier ones on threads I follow anyway.  This setting is available on many online forums, but I cannot seem to locate it here.  But the fact that I can't locate it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

If there's a way to make the threads be presented with the newest messages first, working back to the oldest, I'd love to hear what that is.

Brian


Question about the Groups.io forum

 

I realize that we have people participating here via e-mail list and others, like myself, using the Groups.io website specific to this forum.  This would apply strictly to online forum access.

Is there any way to make threads show with messages in reverse chronological order - newest first?   As threads get longer and longer it becomes more and more tedious to work through the pages, and I generally am looking only for the last several contributions since I've read the earlier ones on threads I follow anyway.  This setting is available on many online forums, but I cannot seem to locate it here.  But the fact that I can't locate it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

If there's a way to make the threads be presented with the newest messages first, working back to the oldest, I'd love to hear what that is.

Brian


Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

Charles Krugman
 

that’s nice but I don’t have an IPhone and don’t intend on getting one.
Chuck
 

From: Cindy Ray
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?
 

I use the iPhone to do Kindle. It works quite nicely.

 

Cindy

 

 

From: Charles Krugman [mailto:ckrugman@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

 

the accessible version of Kindle for PC hasn’t been updated by Kindle/Amazon for anything beyond Windows 7. I had a similar experience when trying to use it a couple of months ago with Windows 10 and had to forego participating in a book discussion group as I didn’t have time to scan the 350 page book. I contacted Amazon about this and while a customer service rep took my complaint and escalated it there has been no action.

Chuck

 

From: David Ingram

Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 9:55 AM

Subject: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?

 

Hi list members, I’d like to know if there are jaws scripts for kindle for pc?  I’ve downloaded the ap but I’m having problems with getting things to work.  I can be reached at dingram269@....  Thank you.


Re: Google Drive/Docs

Nermin
 

Hi Brian,
 
focus mode is just a different term used for what JAWS would call forms mode. Every screen reader has slightly differing naming conventions. So, for example, NVDA calls the virtual cursor mode, i.e. the mode for reading a webpage, browse mode, and does not refer to forms mode as such, but calls that one focus mode instead.
 
Regards,
Nermin
 
 

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Google Drive/Docs
 

David,

          For my edification, what is "focus mode," exactly?   I don't think I've ever heard that term used and I have no idea what that means.  Of course, I had no idea what Forms Mode meant, either, since it's been in "On by Default" mode in all the versions of JAWS I've touched over the last several years, but actually knew how to use it thinking what I was doing was using the Quick Navigation Keys (since a great many overlap).

          Thanks in advance.

Brian


Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

 

Brad,

           That is precisely what I was hoping to hear, and makes me very inclined to start encouraging my clients to turn off the auto feature for forms mode and use manual mode instead.   This seems so much cleaner and less error prone from my perspective.  Of course, ever man or woman to his or her own taste!

Brian

P.S. to the cohort:  I never mind when random readers jump in to answer a question when they see it first.  I just habitually address the question to the poster whose original post triggered it.


Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

Maria Campbell
 

I'll let a techie answer this question more accurately, as I never can remember when enter and/or the space bar works for sure. I first try one or the other to see which invokes the right response. However, I will say that it seems as if again inconsistency may be at work here, for sometimes the space bar will handle check boxes, but at other times the enter key is required.

On 12/31/2015 8:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Maria,

Thanks for that info, which now leads me to a closely
related question: Do you have to hit Enter on any of the object types,
e.g., radio buttons, check boxes, buttons, before the usual control
actions (space bar to toggle in those examples) will actually function,
or is the Enter limited to objects where text is expected to be entered
(and that's an edit field only, isn't it)?

I can tell I'm beginning to fade at the moment, and
midnight's still a bit over two hours away. Happy New Year to all!!!
(Pardon me if I start snoring!)

Brian

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Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
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Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.


Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I have so many saved files from this list that I should never get bored.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction

Hi Brian,

Well, maybe this will make things a little easier. Whenever you're in any application invoke the keystroke, Insert / Jaws Key + 1, on the number row above the main keyboard, to toggle Jaws Help mode on / off. With this mode on you can invoke a keystroke & Jaws will tell you what the keystroke does providing it's a Jaws keystroke. I'm sure you're aware of this but, in case you don't recall a particular keystroke this little tool comes in quite handy!
Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction


Mike,

Trust me, I take my printed list of keystrokes tied to the same release of JAWS a given client is using with me to EVERY session!! My poor head is getting so full from the information sharing here the last couple of days that it's impossible that it will all stick until I start using it!

Brian


Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?

Brad Martin
 

Brian,

I'm not Maria, but to answer your question, in manual forms mode, you must press enter to go into forms mode if the control is a text entry field (edit box) or dropdown (combo box). For radio buttons and checkboxes you can check them with space bar, but while that checks the object in question, it does not turn on forms mode. That is to say that you can check a radio button, then continue navigating as though you hadn't entered forms mode. Form submit buttons function the same way.

Brad


On 12/31/2015 8:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Maria,

           Thanks for that info, which now leads me to a closely related question:  Do you have to hit Enter on any of the object types, e.g., radio buttons, check boxes, buttons, before the usual control actions (space bar to toggle in those examples) will actually function, or is the Enter limited to objects where text is expected to be entered (and that's an edit field only, isn't it)?

            I can tell I'm beginning to fade at the moment, and midnight's still a bit over two hours away.  Happy New Year to all!!!  (Pardon me if I start snoring!)

Brian



Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Brian,
 
Well, maybe this will make things a little easier.  Whenever you're in any application invoke the keystroke, Insert / Jaws Key + 1, on the number row above the main keyboard, to toggle Jaws Help mode on / off.  With this mode on you can invoke a keystroke & Jaws will tell you what the keystroke does providing it's a Jaws keystroke.  I'm sure you're aware of this but, in case you don't recall a particular keystroke this little tool comes in quite handy!
Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction

Mike,

       Trust me, I take my printed list of keystrokes tied to the same release of JAWS a given client is using with me to EVERY session!!  My poor head is getting so full from the information sharing here the last couple of days that it's impossible that it will all stick until I start using it!

Brian


Re: Google Drive/Docs

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Brian,
 
I'm going to tell you real quick that no I don't use this program / service or whatever it's proper label is but, just so you know, drag & drop does not work worth a damn in Jaws!  LOL  LOL 
Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Google Drive/Docs

Mike & David,

          Thanks for the follow-ups.

          It's interesting to encounter a confusion on terminology because of switching between products.  I always try, no matter what product I'm tutoring on, to stick exclusively to the terminology they use in their documentation for object X.   It took me forever to call what all the rest of the world, including most web programmers, call a text box an edit field.  I also get that different products use different terms for "the same things."

          Back to the subject at hand, I've never received an answer to my earlier questions regarding whether or not anyone has tried using Google Drive for Desktop, which is available for Windows or Mac, and can be downloaded from this Drive webpage?  I actually quite love it, because it creates what appears to be a regular folder named Google Drive on your desktop and in Windows Explorer/File Explorer.  You can just drag and drop files to and from this folder and it uploads, downloads, deletes, what have you those actions are actually synchronized to your Google Drive in the cloud.  You can create folders within it, too.  It's ultra convenient, if nothing else.  It's not of much use, though, if you want to access your Google Drive on a machine that's not your own, and you would still need to be able to navigate the Google Drive webpage then.

Brian


Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction

 

Mike,

       Trust me, I take my printed list of keystrokes tied to the same release of JAWS a given client is using with me to EVERY session!!  My poor head is getting so full from the information sharing here the last couple of days that it's impossible that it will all stick until I start using it!

Brian