Re: Posting photos to Facebook
amit aggarwal <aggarwal.amit444@...>
Hi Laura,
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can you see your picture located in documents? if so, you can use these steps instead of brows button found under facebook. 1. navigate to your picture you'd like to post. 2. hold down shift and press application key. 3. use down arrow until you find copy as path. 4. hit enter and close documents window. 5. go to Facebook and click on brows button. 6. now in filename edit combo, paste the path you copyed using ctrl-v. hope that helps. Amit
On 1/1/16, Louise Johnson <herclouise@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi yes this answer would be a help as I would like to take pictures and post
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Re: A question about ribbons
Brad Martin
Brian,
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I'm a little confused by the last post. Are you asking how one uses menu bars and/or ribbons without a keyboard shortcut? For menu bars at least, it was easy. You press the alt key, and JAWS says menu bar. File Pressing the right arrow yields things like edit view insert format options tools help If you right arrow enough times, the loop starts again with file. (Menu taken from Thunderbird) Pressing the down arrow opens the selected menu--file for instance, and down arrowing through the options causes JAWS to announce the selected one. "New, open, save as, etc." Ribbons perplex me, because JAWS is happily reading the "tabs" but if I right arrow one too many times, I feel like I just stepped off a curb. In me, it creates a feeling that I'm walking across a balance beam and suddenly fall off. Brad
On 12/31/2015 10:20 PM, Brian Vogel
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Re: A question about ribbons
Maria Campbell
I'm retired, thus have lots of time to meander about on my laptop. Actually, I do use some shortcuts, and my menus are not all gone, as I said, using the programs that don't have ribbons.
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I have nothing important to format, either; or to say, come to that. But I do love my PC and get done what I need to do.
On 12/31/2015 10:20 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I've never understood the appeal of the ribbon system and it's a mystery --
Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1@ct.metrocast.net Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.
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Re: Amazon's at it again!
Gennie Eachus <geachus@...>
866-216-1072
I have not ever had this problem
From: Rayette Rucker [mailto:ruckerr9@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 2:57 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Amazon's at it again!
I'm having that same issue. On 12/30/2015 2:50 PM, Sandra Streeter wrote:
-- Check out my blog www.angellic23.wordpress.com
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Re: A question about ribbons
I've never understood the appeal of the ribbon system and it's a mystery to me why it was ever introduced. When Office 2007 came out it was as much a tectonic shift for me as when Windows 8 came out and virtually everything familiar about Windows disappeared with it. I find you comment interesting in that most of my blind clients use keyboard shortcuts, at least to bring up a menu (or enter a ribbon). I actually try to teach the keyboard shortcut "chains", e.g., Alt+F followed by S for save or Alt+F followed by A for save as (and some chains can get much longer), since for most "point and click" usage of a menu is a non-starter. I teach these as well in reference to the ribbons, e.g., Alt+H followed by 1, to toggle bold formatting, for things that a client uses really frequently and that they need to be able to activate/deactivate with maximum speed. I'm trying to imagine how you go about, or went about (since full menus are long gone), accessing the menu system where keyboard shortcuts would not be "step one" at least. Brian
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Re: Question about the Groups.io forum
Dave, Uh, they don't for me. Your reply is directly below mine, not above mine, on the Groups.io site for the JFW forum. That's newest on the bottom. On threads that span several pages the newest message, as they display for me, is always on the last page, so I have to go to the bottom of the first page, move to the next page, go to the bottom of that page, move to the next page, lather rinse repeat. If they're showing up newest first for you at least that gives me hope that there is a setting, somewhere, that I can set to make this happen for me. Brian
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a tool to remove sql server 2014
Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
Hi. Does any one know of a tool that will completely get rid of sql server 2014 and all components? Having a hard time trying to remove it, could not run the sql management studio, and need to repair, but when I try to repair, cannot find the setup file, and so have to remove. Would not let me remove, as had a previous uinstall, so had to do a reboot. Any ideas. Marvin.
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Re: A question about ribbons
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
Organomics and more visual appeal is all I ever heard why ribbons were introduced.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1@ct.metrocast.net] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:51 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: A question about ribbons Brian, why did Microsoft, in its infinite wisdom, replace the drop-down old file, edit, view, tools, etc., menu bar with the what I consider, to be the evil ribbon system? All it seems to do is add layers that hides what used to be so much more easily accessed, at least by screen readers. I get lost in the damn layers, not knowing where I am or how to get out. Yes, I know the shortcut keys are still there, but as I said previously, I'm a menu person, not a shortcut person. Consequently, I'll use any program that doesn't yet make use of the ribbons, such as Jart or NotePad for texting, and Thunderbird for email. By the time ribbons take over the world, hopefully, I'll be able just to say what I want done, and it will be so. -- Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1@ct.metrocast.net Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.
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A question about ribbons
Maria Campbell
Brian, why did Microsoft, in its infinite wisdom, replace the drop-down old file, edit, view, tools, etc., menu bar with the what I consider, to be the evil ribbon system? All it seems to do is add layers that hides what used to be so much more easily accessed, at least by screen readers. I get lost in the damn layers, not knowing where I am or how to get out. Yes, I know the shortcut keys are still there, but as I said previously, I'm a menu person, not a shortcut person.
Consequently, I'll use any program that doesn't yet make use of the ribbons, such as Jart or NotePad for texting, and Thunderbird for email. By the time ribbons take over the world, hopefully, I'll be able just to say what I want done, and it will be so. -- Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1@ct.metrocast.net Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.
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Re: Question about the Groups.io forum
Dave...
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Brian,
If you're referring to the order of messages as
they stack inside an ongoing message conversation, then they do get populated
with the newest on top. Otherwise, the order of the messages in the folder or
inbox is a function of the email client being used.
Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
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From: Brian Vogel
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 07:44 PM
Subject: Question about the Groups.io forum I realize that we have people participating here via e-mail list and others, like myself, using the Groups.io website specific to this forum. This would apply strictly to online forum access. Is there any way to make threads show with messages in reverse chronological order - newest first? As threads get longer and longer it becomes more and more tedious to work through the pages, and I generally am looking only for the last several contributions since I've read the earlier ones on threads I follow anyway. This setting is available on many online forums, but I cannot seem to locate it here. But the fact that I can't locate it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If there's a way to make the threads be presented with the newest messages first, working back to the oldest, I'd love to hear what that is. Brian
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Question about the Groups.io forum
I realize that we have people participating here via e-mail list and others, like myself, using the Groups.io website specific to this forum. This would apply strictly to online forum access. Is there any way to make threads show with messages in reverse chronological order - newest first? As threads get longer and longer it becomes more and more tedious to work through the pages, and I generally am looking only for the last several contributions since I've read the earlier ones on threads I follow anyway. This setting is available on many online forums, but I cannot seem to locate it here. But the fact that I can't locate it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If there's a way to make the threads be presented with the newest messages first, working back to the oldest, I'd love to hear what that is. Brian
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Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?
Charles Krugman
that’s nice but I don’t have an IPhone and don’t intend on getting
one.
Chuck
From: Cindy Ray
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for
kendle for pc? I use the iPhone to do Kindle. It works quite nicely.
Cindy
From: Charles Krugman [mailto:ckrugman@...]
the accessible version of Kindle for PC hasn’t been updated by Kindle/Amazon for anything beyond Windows 7. I had a similar experience when trying to use it a couple of months ago with Windows 10 and had to forego participating in a book discussion group as I didn’t have time to scan the 350 page book. I contacted Amazon about this and while a customer service rep took my complaint and escalated it there has been no action. Chuck
From: David Ingram Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 9:55 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Does anyone know whether there are jaws scripts for kendle for pc?
Hi list members, I’d like to know if there are jaws scripts for kindle for pc? I’ve downloaded the ap but I’m having problems with getting things to work. I can be reached at dingram269@.... Thank you.
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Re: Google Drive/Docs
Nermin
Hi Brian,
focus mode is just a different term used for what JAWS would call forms
mode. Every screen reader has slightly differing naming conventions. So, for
example, NVDA calls the virtual cursor mode, i.e. the mode for reading a
webpage, browse mode, and does not refer to forms mode as such, but calls that
one focus mode instead.
Regards,
Nermin
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 7:20 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Drive/Docs David, For my edification, what is "focus mode," exactly? I don't think I've ever heard that term used and I have no idea what that means. Of course, I had no idea what Forms Mode meant, either, since it's been in "On by Default" mode in all the versions of JAWS I've touched over the last several years, but actually knew how to use it thinking what I was doing was using the Quick Navigation Keys (since a great many overlap). Thanks in advance. Brian
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Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?
Brad, That is precisely what I was hoping to hear, and makes me very inclined to start encouraging my clients to turn off the auto feature for forms mode and use manual mode instead. This seems so much cleaner and less error prone from my perspective. Of course, ever man or woman to his or her own taste! Brian P.S. to the cohort: I never mind when random readers jump in to answer a question when they see it first. I just habitually address the question to the poster whose original post triggered it.
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Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?
Maria Campbell
I'll let a techie answer this question more accurately, as I never can remember when enter and/or the space bar works for sure. I first try one or the other to see which invokes the right response. However, I will say that it seems as if again inconsistency may be at work here, for sometimes the space bar will handle check boxes, but at other times the enter key is required.
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On 12/31/2015 8:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Maria, --
Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1@ct.metrocast.net Be patient with God: Be patient with yourself: Be patient with others.
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Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I have so many saved files from this list that I should never get bored.
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Bye for now, Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:06 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction Hi Brian, Well, maybe this will make things a little easier. Whenever you're in any application invoke the keystroke, Insert / Jaws Key + 1, on the number row above the main keyboard, to toggle Jaws Help mode on / off. With this mode on you can invoke a keystroke & Jaws will tell you what the keystroke does providing it's a Jaws keystroke. I'm sure you're aware of this but, in case you don't recall a particular keystroke this little tool comes in quite handy! Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com> To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction Mike, Trust me, I take my printed list of keystrokes tied to the same release of JAWS a given client is using with me to EVERY session!! My poor head is getting so full from the information sharing here the last couple of days that it's impossible that it will all stick until I start using it! Brian
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Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users" or people who've used both here?
Brad Martin
Brian,
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I'm not Maria, but to answer your question, in manual forms mode, you must press enter to go into forms mode if the control is a text entry field (edit box) or dropdown (combo box). For radio buttons and checkboxes you can check them with space bar, but while that checks the object in question, it does not turn on forms mode. That is to say that you can check a radio button, then continue navigating as though you hadn't entered forms mode. Form submit buttons function the same way. Brad
On 12/31/2015 8:49 PM, Brian Vogel
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Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
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Hi Brian,
Well, maybe this will make things a little
easier. Whenever you're in any application invoke the keystroke, Insert /
Jaws Key + 1, on the number row above the main keyboard, to toggle Jaws Help
mode on / off. With this mode on you can invoke a keystroke & Jaws
will tell you what the keystroke does providing it's a Jaws keystroke. I'm
sure you're aware of this but, in case you don't recall a particular keystroke
this little tool comes in quite handy!
Take care. Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction Mike, Trust me, I take my printed list of keystrokes tied to the same release of JAWS a given client is using with me to EVERY session!! My poor head is getting so full from the information sharing here the last couple of days that it's impossible that it will all stick until I start using it! Brian
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Re: Google Drive/Docs
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
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Hi Brian,
I'm going to tell you real quick that no I don't
use this program / service or whatever it's proper label is but, just so you
know, drag & drop does not work worth a damn in Jaws! LOL
LOL
Take care. Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Google Drive/Docs Mike & David, Thanks for the follow-ups. It's interesting to encounter a confusion on terminology because of switching between products. I always try, no matter what product I'm tutoring on, to stick exclusively to the terminology they use in their documentation for object X. It took me forever to call what all the rest of the world, including most web programmers, call a text box an edit field. I also get that different products use different terms for "the same things." Back to the subject at hand, I've never received an answer to my earlier questions regarding whether or not anyone has tried using Google Drive for Desktop, which is available for Windows or Mac, and can be downloaded from this Drive webpage? I actually quite love it, because it creates what appears to be a regular folder named Google Drive on your desktop and in Windows Explorer/File Explorer. You can just drag and drop files to and from this folder and it uploads, downloads, deletes, what have you those actions are actually synchronized to your Google Drive in the cloud. You can create folders within it, too. It's ultra convenient, if nothing else. It's not of much use, though, if you want to access your Google Drive on a machine that's not your own, and you would still need to be able to navigate the Google Drive webpage then. Brian
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Re: Virtual Cursor Keystroke Correction
Mike, Trust me, I take my printed list of keystrokes tied to the same release of JAWS a given client is using with me to EVERY session!! My poor head is getting so full from the information sharing here the last couple of days that it's impossible that it will all stick until I start using it! Brian
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