Date   

Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

 

Thanks to everyone for their responses.  I've gotten more information than I could have hoped for!!

This is being done on a client's computer, not my own, and I don't have access to it at the moment.  But my memory is half decent on good days, so . . .

We are using the Google Voice plug-in, not Hangouts.  On my own computer I have the Voice plug-in under Firefox for one GV number and the Hangouts App/extension under Chrome for another.  On the client's machine I believe it's Voice and Firefox.

I have already reported this issue as best I can to both Freedom Scientific and Google.  I am hoping that Google will take the accessibility issue seriously and look into this.

In the meantime I think the work around we'll end up using is having her Google Voice number ring her cell number on her iPhone.  I'll probably also try to assign some sort of dedicated ringtone to those calls, but I've got to figure out the best way to do that, so that she knows whether the call is coming in directly to her actual cell number or being forwarded from GV.

It will probably not be until after the holidays that we next get together and that I can do this, but her internship won't start until that time, either.  I try to avoid working "at deadline" for precisely these reasons.  Having done this sort of work for some years now I have long ago been disabused of the notion that JAWS, or any other assistive software, is likely going to behave in the way I want it to, particularly with new or obscure features.  Given the pace of change in web browsers and general web coding it's a miracle that the assistive technology companies can keep up with it at all.  I just wonder how long it will be until stuff becomes stable with Windows 10!

Thanks Again,

Brian


Re: JAWS 17 and punctuation verbosity settings.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thanks, Mike. That worked for apostrophe.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 and punctuation verbosity settings.

One thing about the apostrophe, if you nullify it altogether, you may
get some strange results on contractions. I tried that once, and had to
back off.



Ted



From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 and puntuation verbosity settings.



Hi LeDon,

Note: The apostrophy & dollar sign are only examples.

You can change how Jaws speaks the apostrophy in the Settings Centter
default all applications by doing the following. If you only want to
change the punctuation settings in a particular application just open the
Settings Center while in the particular application by pressing Insert +
6, on the number row above the main keyboard to open the Settings Center:
1. Press Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard to open
the Settings Center, & press, Control, shift, + D, to open default all
applications.
2. Arrow down to, Punctuation closed & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to customize punctuation & press the spacebar to open.
Don't press enter here, if you press enter instad of the spacebar, the
Settings Center will close.
4.A. When making changes in the customize punctuation list, if you do not
want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to
choose the " all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up
or down through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections
they work backwards than what you would think. For example; If you
choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

4.B. After you pressed the spacebar on customize punctuation, you are now
in a list of punctuation marks. Arrow down the list and when you have
the punctuation mark you want to change highlighted, tab 1 time to the
radio buttons that I mentioned earlier.
5. Keeping in mind what I mentioned earlier about these choices working
backwards, select the box in this list, in your case not wanting any
apostrophy's spoken, choose the all button.
6. Now, if you want to make a change to another punctuation mark, shift
tab back to the list and highlight a different punctuation mark, tab back
to the radio buttons and select the box you prefer.
7. After you are done making your changes tab to okay and press the
spacebar.
8. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, press the spacebar to
save your changes & close the Settings Center.

Now, I hope that you are not as confused as I am after typing all of
this.
LOL Hope this has helped.

Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim Ford <mailto:ttford@gmail.com>

To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:43 AM

Subject: JAWS 17 and puntuation verbosity settings.



Adding a subject line that is a bit more descriptive; "two questions"
does not tell us much!

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: LeDon Becker
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Two questions

I am using jaws seventeen windows ten and WLM.

I have Jaws punctuation set up to read, none, And that works except
that when jaws comes to an esclamation point it reads it. That is the
only punctuation that jaws reads. How can I get jaws to not read the,
punctuation when it comes to an esclamation point?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Two questions

Hi LeDon,

I only have an answer for question #1, actually 3 answers:
1. I have just updated to jaws seventeen and am using windows seven. .
How do I set punctuation to, none?
Answer #1:
1. If you are running Jaws from the system tray press, Insert + J, to
open the Jaws context menu.
2. Press the letter, H, to open, Help, or arrow down to Help & press
enter to open.
3. Press the letter, Z, to open the Startup Wizard...., or arrow down to,
Startup Wizard....& press enter.
4. Go through the Startup Wizard making your choices & following the
prompts.

Answer #2:
If you want your punctuation set for, None, in all applications try the
following:
1. Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main
keyboard.
B. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2, to open the, Jaws Manager, arrow down,
to Settings Center, & press enter.
With the Settings Center open press, control, shift , + D, to open the
Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Punctuation, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Punctuation Level, press the spacebar until you hear
Jaws report, None.
4. Tab to the, Apply button, press the spacebar, tab to the, Okay button,
& press enter to save & close.

And the bonus answer #3 is:
While in any application press, Insert _+ V, to open Jaws quick settings,
arrow down to Punctuation, press the spacebar until you hear the level of
punctuation you want, tab to the Okay button & press enter to save /
close quick settings.
Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: LeDon Becker
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Two questions


1. I have just updated to jaws seventeen and am using windows seven. .
How do I set punctuation to, none?
2. I have just updated to jaws seventeen and am using windows, seven, and
using WLM. all of my emails from this email list are going to the WLM
junk file,. How do I get email from this email list to go to my inbox?

Thank you for your help. LeDon.. How do I correct this?
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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How do we Change the JAWS StartUp Message

Darran Ross
 

Hi List.
 
Many many moons ago someone once gave directions on how you would go about altering the JAWS startup message. You could change it in such a way as to greet you by name and then announce the time, for example.
 
Yes, this is just a bit of a gimmick, but if there's anyone on the list who knows what changes must be made to JAWS to make this possible, I'd appreciate the directions.
 
Using version 17.
 
Many thanks.
 
Darran
 


Re: JAWS 17 and punctuation verbosity settings.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

One thing about the apostrophe, if you nullify  it altogether, you may get some strange results on contractions.  I tried that once, and had to back off.

 

Ted

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 and puntuation verbosity settings.

 

Hi LeDon,

Note: The apostrophy  & dollar sign are only examples.

You can change how Jaws speaks the apostrophy in the Settings Centter
default all applications by doing the following.  If you only want to change
the punctuation settings in a particular application just open the Settings
Center while in the particular application by pressing Insert + 6, on the
number row above the main keyboard to open the Settings Center:
1. Press Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard to open the
Settings Center, & press, Control, shift, + D, to open default all
applications.
2. Arrow down to, Punctuation closed & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to customize punctuation & press the spacebar to open.  Don't
press enter here, if you press enter instad of the spacebar, the Settings
Center will close.
4.A. When making changes in the customize punctuation list, if you do not
want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

4.B. After you pressed the spacebar on customize punctuation, you are now in
a list of punctuation marks.  Arrow down the list and when
you have the punctuation mark you want to change highlighted, tab 1 time to
the radio buttons that I mentioned earlier.
5. Keeping in mind what I mentioned earlier about these choices working
backwards, select the box in this list, in your case not wanting any
apostrophy's spoken, choose the all button.
6. Now, if you want to make a change to another punctuation mark, shift tab
back to the list and highlight a different punctuation mark, tab back to the
radio buttons and select the box you prefer.
7. After you are done making your changes tab to okay and press the
spacebar.
8. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, press the spacebar to save
your changes & close the Settings Center.

Now, I hope that you are not as confused as I am after typing all of this.
LOL  Hope this has helped.

Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim Ford

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:43 AM

Subject: JAWS 17 and puntuation verbosity settings.

 

Adding a subject line that is a bit more descriptive; "two questions" does
not tell us much!

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: LeDon Becker
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@...
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Two questions

I am using jaws seventeen windows ten and WLM.

I have Jaws punctuation  set up to read, none,  And that works except that
when jaws comes to an esclamation point it reads it. That is the only
punctuation  that jaws reads. How can I get jaws to not read the,
punctuation   when it comes to an esclamation point?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@...
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Two questions

Hi LeDon,

I only have an answer for question #1, actually 3 answers:
1. I have just updated to jaws seventeen and am using windows seven. . How
do I set punctuation to, none?
Answer #1:
1. If you are running Jaws from the system tray press, Insert + J, to open
the Jaws context menu.
2. Press the letter, H, to open, Help, or arrow down to Help & press enter
to open.
3. Press the letter, Z, to open the Startup Wizard...., or arrow down to,
Startup Wizard....& press enter.
4. Go through the Startup Wizard making your choices & following the
prompts.

Answer #2:
If you want your punctuation set for, None, in all applications try the
following:
1. Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard.
B. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2, to open the, Jaws Manager, arrow down, to
Settings Center, & press enter.
With the Settings Center open press, control, shift , + D, to open the
Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Punctuation, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Punctuation Level, press the spacebar until you hear Jaws
report, None.
4. Tab to the, Apply button, press the spacebar, tab to the, Okay button, &
press enter to save & close.

And the bonus answer #3 is:
While in any application press, Insert _+ V, to open Jaws quick settings,
arrow down to Punctuation, press the spacebar until you hear the level of
punctuation you want, tab to the Okay button & press enter to save / close
quick settings.
Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: LeDon Becker
To: jaws-users-list@...
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Two questions


1. I have just updated to jaws seventeen and am using windows seven. . How
do I set punctuation to, none?
2. I have just updated to jaws seventeen and am using windows, seven, and
using WLM.  all of my emails from this email list are going to the WLM junk
file,. How do I get email from this email list to go to my inbox?

Thank you for your help. LeDon.. How do I correct this?
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



Re: excel help

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That dropdown has always been tricky. Our time sheets work that way, so I've always required supervisory help--embarrassing!
Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Marianne Denning [mailto:marianne@denningweb.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:42 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: excel help

Ctrl page down will jump from sheet to sheet in a workbook.

On 12/1/15, Alex Stone <alex.stone@gmail.com> wrote:
I need a little bit of help with Excel 2007 please. Firstly what is
the jaws keystroke to switch between excel worksheets within a workbook?
Also, How do I navigate dropdowns within cells in a workbook?




--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


FW: More on VLC

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I'm not sure this got through the last time, due to the transition, so let's try it again. I've been away for a while on personal time. I'm more and more convinced this is one of the cooler programs around, either free or paid, so I really want to use it to the max.
Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:18 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: FW: More on VLC



-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:37 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: More on VLC

I have a follow-up question. Does anyone know how to obtain a manual for VLC; is such a thing available on the Video Lan site? Those buttons and boxes available with the touch cursor are unlabeled. This is no reflection on JAWS, as a sighted family member couldn't see any labels either, so it would help to know what the Sam Hill they are, so the user knows what he is pushing or checking.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim L via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Jim L
Subject: VLC and Jaws

Hello folks,



Am running latest VLC and Jaws 17, is there a command where I can get Jaws to tell me the remaining time on a track etc?



Cheers,



Jim

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Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

David Moore
 

Hi Brian,
I use a Gmail account, Google Docs, and Google Drive and use Google Chrome browser. How do I get started using Google Voice. Are there any customizations to make to Google Voice using JAWS 17, using win10. Thanks a lot, Brian, am so glad you tutor JAWS and have consider doing the same, because I help so many people on these lists. Have a great one.
 
 

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS
 
Hello Brian,

I use Google Voice all the time, but I don't use it to make or receive calls through my computer. So I tried what you're asking. I logged into GV, made sure calls were forwarded to the Email address in question under the phones tab. And then proceeded to try to call the number from a phone.

If there was a dialog asking me to answer the call, JAWS was not announcing it. I tried using Firefox and Internet Explorer 11, but I couldn't find any indication that a call was coming in.

You didn't mention if you were trying to use JAWS with Google Hangouts, or just the old-fashioned Google Voice. I have never tried HangOuts with JAWS because I don't want to use GV in this way.

As others have said, I too just have the calls routed to another number and set a ring schedule if I don't want the calls coming at certain times of the day.

For what it's worth, Google Voice with JAWS works pretty well, but some functions work better with Internet Explorer and others work better with Firefox. For instance, when selecting a new number, JAWS absolutely will not give you the continue button once you've checked a number. I have to use the JAWS cursor to even find the word Continue, and that only works in Internet Explorer.

Now I really want to get this to work, but like I said, I'm not even getting the dialog you're describing with the two buttons. I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is.

Brad Martin

On 12/16/2015 12:34 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Hello,
 
        My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired.  I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future.  Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience.
 
         One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number.  I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account.  Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well.  I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages.  The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message.
 
          The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14).  When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline.  Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links.  In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up.  However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it.
 
           Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice.
 
           If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it.   Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
Brian Vogel
--
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britemailto:britechguy@...            (540) 324-5032 or (540) 849-0023                           
"If it's got you screaming, I'll help you stop!!"


Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

Cristóbal
 

Do you have the Gmail window in standard view open? Google Voice will only ring in this window. Another reason why I do the call forwarding thing  instead of receiving calls vai the PC.

 

From: Brad Martin [mailto:brad@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:44 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Fwd: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

 

Hello Brian,

I use Google Voice all the time, but I don't use it to make or receive calls through my computer. So I tried what you're asking. I logged into GV, made sure calls were forwarded to the Email address in question under the phones tab. And then proceeded to try to call the number from a phone.

If there was a dialog asking me to answer the call, JAWS was not announcing it. I tried using Firefox and Internet Explorer 11, but I couldn't find any indication that a call was coming in.

You didn't mention if you were trying to use JAWS with Google Hangouts, or just the old-fashioned Google Voice. I have never tried HangOuts with JAWS because I don't want to use GV in this way.

As others have said, I too just have the calls routed to another number and set a ring schedule if I don't want the calls coming at certain times of the day.

For what it's worth, Google Voice with JAWS works pretty well, but some functions work better with Internet Explorer and others work better with Firefox. For instance, when selecting a new number, JAWS absolutely will not give you the continue button once you've checked a number. I have to use the JAWS cursor to even find the word Continue, and that only works in Internet Explorer.

Now I really want to get this to work, but like I said, I'm not even getting the dialog you're describing with the two buttons. I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is.

Brad Martin

On 12/16/2015 12:34 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Hello,

 

        My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired.  I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future.  Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience.

 

         One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number.  I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account.  Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well.  I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages.  The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message.

 

          The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14).  When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline.  Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links.  In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up.  However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it.

 

           Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice.

 

           If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it.   Thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

Brian Vogel

-- 

Bri the Tech Guy          http://britechguy.com
britechguy@...            
(540) 324-5032 or (540) 849-0023                            

"If it's got you screaming, I'll help you stop!!"

 


Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

Brad Martin
 

Hello Brian,

I use Google Voice all the time, but I don't use it to make or receive calls through my computer. So I tried what you're asking. I logged into GV, made sure calls were forwarded to the Email address in question under the phones tab. And then proceeded to try to call the number from a phone.

If there was a dialog asking me to answer the call, JAWS was not announcing it. I tried using Firefox and Internet Explorer 11, but I couldn't find any indication that a call was coming in.

You didn't mention if you were trying to use JAWS with Google Hangouts, or just the old-fashioned Google Voice. I have never tried HangOuts with JAWS because I don't want to use GV in this way.

As others have said, I too just have the calls routed to another number and set a ring schedule if I don't want the calls coming at certain times of the day.

For what it's worth, Google Voice with JAWS works pretty well, but some functions work better with Internet Explorer and others work better with Firefox. For instance, when selecting a new number, JAWS absolutely will not give you the continue button once you've checked a number. I have to use the JAWS cursor to even find the word Continue, and that only works in Internet Explorer.

Now I really want to get this to work, but like I said, I'm not even getting the dialog you're describing with the two buttons. I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is.

Brad Martin

On 12/16/2015 12:34 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Hello,

        My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired.  I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future.  Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience.

         One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number.  I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account.  Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well.  I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages.  The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message.

          The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14).  When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline.  Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links.  In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up.  However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it.

           Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice.

           If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it.   Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Brian Vogel
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Re: Blue balls announcement

James Homuth
 

Instructions for leaving this list are rather blatantly placed at the end of
every message--including this one. Failure to comprehend said instructions
on your part does not and will not constitute an emergency on mine. You will
now be removed, and permanently banned. Have a nice day.

James,
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From: John Chan via Groups.io [mailto:aznboyz4sho=yahoo.com@groups.io]
Sent: December-16-15 10:11 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Blue balls announcement

I want to get off this list,please fucking stop sending emails or else
inappropriate posts continue... Somebody report me and get me kicked off
please.i have blue balls !!!!


Blue balls announcement

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I want to get off this list,please fucking stop sending emails or else inappropriate posts continue... Somebody report me and get me kicked off please.i have blue balls !!!!


Re: Forwarding emails that have an attachment

HAMILTON
 

I believe that you can use ctrl+f to forward an e-mail from the list of messages, as long as the message, to which you wish to reply, is highlighted/selected. At least, with OUTLOOK 2007 and 2013, this works fine. Jim H


Re: how do I message a person (not a group) on facebook using my desktop computer/

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hahahaha~ You're fired.

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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 2:08 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: how do I message a person (not a group) on facebook using my desktop computer/

Oh, that's easy. Just look at their Facebook photos to make sure you're finding the right one.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

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To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 02:04 PM
Subject: Re: how do I message a person (not a group) on facebook using my desktop computer/


However, what if his name is so common that the person must sort through hundreds of results?


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From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:45 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: how do I message a person (not a group) on facebook using my
desktop computer/

Hi Ryan,
You can use the mobile site for Facebook on your computer. Here is the URL:
m.Facebook.com
When you type that URL, a easy and accessible page will come up. Type your
friend's name in the search at the top of the page. Then, arrow down to
search results and enter on his name. You will be then taken to his page.
Just arrow down the page to where it says to message this person and press
enter. The message page will open and you can just press e for edit and type
the message and press enter on send. The Mobile site of Facebook is so easy
to use, because it is so basic and no advertising or any of that. Let me
know if you have any questions. Have a great one.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Coverdell
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:17 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: how do I message a person (not a group) on Facebook using my
desktop computer/

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The facebook layout in my Pac Mate Omni is easwy to follow, with simple
basic links. my Pac mate is out for repair now though. From my desktop pc
which I am on now I would like to message my brother on Facebook, but when I
go to his name on my desktop pc web interface I can't find the message link
or a history of stuff I've written him before my Pac mate was sent back. If
you have overcome this issue please let me know what you do. I want to
contact him individually in a chat, not as part of a group. How do I do this
from a desktop pc? Is there a way to access a basic html version of
facebook? And while I'm at it what about a basic html version of Hotmail? I
can't use the current web interface because it relies on screen taps. I'm
using windows 7 and jaws 14.

merry Christmas and Happy New Year,

Ryan Coverdell


Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Have you tried routing JAWS to PC, when the phone rings? That would be more trouble, but if it works...?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Fwd: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

Hello,


My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired. I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future. Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience.

One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number. I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account. Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well. I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages. The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message.

The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14). When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline. Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links. In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up. However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it.

Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice.

If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Brian Vogel
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Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

Cristóbal
 

I used to do this back in the day, but it’s been a long time since I’ve tried as I simply have calls forwarded to my cell or Skype number as I found that way to be more efficient instead of always having to have a specific Gmail window open only for  incoming calls.

I recall it involved turning the virtual cursor off and tabbing like crazy or using the jaws cursor to click on the  answer button. Hanging  up was a simple press of the escape key.

Ingeneral though, I found IE to be an easier screen reader experience than Firefox. Mainly due to the fact that with Firefox, Jaws kept on announcing the call timer which made trying to do anything else pointless.

She’ll probably be better off just forwarding incomving GV calls to another line. She can  set the incoming caller ID to the GV number if she wants to know when an incoming call is to her actual number or the GV number.

I’m a big time GV user and find the service to be very useful.

 

From: Jonas Voll [mailto:jonas.voll@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:48 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

 

The last time I try it was not accessible!

You can probably use HSP, http://www.hotspotclicker.org/HotSpotClicker.html

 

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Fwd: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

 

Hello,

 

        My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired.  I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future.  Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience.

 

         One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number.  I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account.  Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well.  I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages.  The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message.

 

          The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14).  When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline.  Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links.  In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up.  However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it.

 

           Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice.

 

           If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it.   Thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

Brian Vogel

-- 

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Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

Jonas Voll
 

The last time I try it was not accessible!

You can probably use HSP, http://www.hotspotclicker.org/HotSpotClicker.html

 

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Fwd: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

 

Hello,

 

        My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired.  I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future.  Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience.

 

         One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number.  I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account.  Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well.  I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages.  The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message.

 

          The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14).  When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline.  Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links.  In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up.  However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it.

 

           Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice.

 

           If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it.   Thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

Brian Vogel

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Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS

 

Hello,

        My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired.  I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future.  Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience.

         One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number.  I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account.  Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well.  I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages.  The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message.

          The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14).  When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline.  Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links.  In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up.  However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it.

           Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice.

           If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it.   Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Brian Vogel
-- 
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britechguy@...            (540) 324-5032 or (540) 849-0023                            
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Google Drive/Docs

Natalia Voegele
 

Hi all,

 

     I was wondering if someone could help me with Google drive/Docs? I have listened to the FS podcasts on the subject and have a student which I need to teach these to. He reads a lot of documents using these for school. I have a hard time getting some of the commands to work and don’t know if it’s something I’m doing incorrectly, if it’s Google Drive/Docs, or a combination of both. I’ve called FS for help and I seemed to know more about Google drive/Docs than the representative I spoke to, did.

 

Thank you,

 

Natalia

 


Re: unscribe

Dave...
 

...might help first to spell it correctly. Then read how to unsubscribe at
the bottom of any of these messages.

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