Re: how do I message a person (not a group) on facebook using my desktop computer/
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
Hahahaha~ You're fired.
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From: Farfar on Laptop [mailto:dgcarlson@...] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 2:08 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: how do I message a person (not a group) on facebook using my desktop computer/ Oh, that's easy. Just look at their Facebook photos to make sure you're finding the right one. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...> To: <jfw@groups.io> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 02:04 PM Subject: Re: how do I message a person (not a group) on facebook using my desktop computer/ However, what if his name is so common that the person must sort through hundreds of results? -----Original Message----- From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@...] Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:45 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: how do I message a person (not a group) on facebook using my desktop computer/ Hi Ryan, You can use the mobile site for Facebook on your computer. Here is the URL: m.Facebook.com When you type that URL, a easy and accessible page will come up. Type your friend's name in the search at the top of the page. Then, arrow down to search results and enter on his name. You will be then taken to his page. Just arrow down the page to where it says to message this person and press enter. The message page will open and you can just press e for edit and type the message and press enter on send. The Mobile site of Facebook is so easy to use, because it is so basic and no advertising or any of that. Let me know if you have any questions. Have a great one. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Coverdell Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:17 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: how do I message a person (not a group) on Facebook using my desktop computer/ On 12/11/15, John Martyn <johnrobertmartyn@...> wrote: 30 days free. You can try the scripts for iTunes, rhapsody,The facebook layout in my Pac Mate Omni is easwy to follow, with simple basic links. my Pac mate is out for repair now though. From my desktop pc which I am on now I would like to message my brother on Facebook, but when I go to his name on my desktop pc web interface I can't find the message link or a history of stuff I've written him before my Pac mate was sent back. If you have overcome this issue please let me know what you do. I want to contact him individually in a chat, not as part of a group. How do I do this from a desktop pc? Is there a way to access a basic html version of facebook? And while I'm at it what about a basic html version of Hotmail? I can't use the current web interface because it relies on screen taps. I'm using windows 7 and jaws 14. merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Ryan Coverdell
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Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Have you tried routing JAWS to PC, when the phone rings? That would be more trouble, but if it works...?
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Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:35 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Fwd: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS Hello, My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired. I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future. Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience. One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number. I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account. Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well. I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages. The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message. The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14). When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline. Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links. In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up. However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it. Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice. If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it. Thanks in advance for your assistance. Brian Vogel -- Bri the Tech Guy http://britechguy.com brite <mailto:britechguy@...> chguy@... <mailto:britechguy@...> (540) 324-5032 <tel:%28540%29%20324-5032> or (540) 849-0023 <tel:%28540%29%20849-0023> "If it's got you screaming, I'll help you stop!!"
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Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS
Cristóbal
I used to do this back in the day, but it’s been a long time since I’ve tried as I simply have calls forwarded to my cell or Skype number as I found that way to be more efficient instead of always having to have a specific Gmail window open only for incoming calls. I recall it involved turning the virtual cursor off and tabbing like crazy or using the jaws cursor to click on the answer button. Hanging up was a simple press of the escape key. Ingeneral though, I found IE to be an easier screen reader experience than Firefox. Mainly due to the fact that with Firefox, Jaws kept on announcing the call timer which made trying to do anything else pointless. She’ll probably be better off just forwarding incomving GV calls to another line. She can set the incoming caller ID to the GV number if she wants to know when an incoming call is to her actual number or the GV number. I’m a big time GV user and find the service to be very useful.
From: Jonas Voll [mailto:jonas.voll@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:48 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS
The last time I try it was not accessible! You can probably use HSP, http://www.hotspotclicker.org/HotSpotClicker.html
Jonas Voll Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Hello,
My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired. I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future. Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience.
One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number. I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account. Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well. I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages. The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message.
The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14). When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline. Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links. In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up. However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it.
Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice.
If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Brian Vogel -- Bri the Tech Guy http://britechguy.com "If it's got you screaming, I'll help you stop!!"
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Re: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS
Jonas Voll
The last time I try it was not accessible! You can probably use HSP, http://www.hotspotclicker.org/HotSpotClicker.html
Jonas
Voll Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:35 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Fwd: Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS
Hello,
My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired. I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future. Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience.
One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number. I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account. Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well. I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages. The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message.
The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14). When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline. Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links. In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up. However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it.
Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice.
If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Brian Vogel -- Bri the Tech Guy
http://britechguy.com "If it's got you screaming, I'll help you stop!!"
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Introducing myself & question on Google Voice with JAWS
Hello, My name is Brian Vogel and one of the things I do is tutor individuals who are new to JAWS and, typically, new or new-ish to being blind or vision impaired. I think the earliest version of JAWS I ever dealt with is 10, and I have clients who are on version 16 that I will be updating to version 17 in the near future. Since I am sighted, I do not use JAWS myself on a day to day basis so it's not something that is "just like breathing" to me and I know that those who actually use it as their primary access method to their computers know infinitely more about the little tricks that make using JAWS an easier experience. One of my clients is beginning an internship and she wanted a phone number that her clients could call that was neither her home number or cell phone number. I suggested that we set up a Google Voice number for her since she has a Google account. Since I've done this before getting the Google Voice phone number set up as well as having her record her personal greeting, etc., went perfectly well. I have her set up to receive e-mail regarding missed calls as well as transcriptions of her voicemail messages. The latter messages also contain a direct link that one can click to listen to that specific voicemail message. The issue is actually answering an incoming call from Google Voice with JAWS (I should add right now we're using JAWS 14). When a call comes in a pop-up is presented at the lower left corner of the screen that has what appear to be two buttons, Answer and Decline. Those buttons, though, aren't really buttons if you listen to JAWS, but appear to be links. In any case, when the pop-up pops up JAWS clearly recognizes its presence because it announces, "Incoming call," which is the text shown near the buttons/links in the pop-up. However, I have been completely unable to determine a way to access those buttons/links while the call is ringing to allow her to actually choose to answer it or decline it. Freedom Scientific Technical Support suggested I post here, as they have no answer to this question and said they have no experience with using any version of JAWS with Google Voice. If anyone can offer me any suggestions as to what I might try, or knows the answer regarding how to actually answer or decline an incoming call from Google Voice, I would love to hear it. Thanks in advance for your assistance. Brian Vogel -- "If it's got you screaming, I'll help you stop!!"
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Google Drive/Docs
Natalia Voegele
Hi all,
I was wondering if someone could help me with Google drive/Docs? I have listened to the FS podcasts on the subject and have a student which I need to teach these to. He reads a lot of documents using these for school. I have a hard time getting some of the commands to work and don’t know if it’s something I’m doing incorrectly, if it’s Google Drive/Docs, or a combination of both. I’ve called FS for help and I seemed to know more about Google drive/Docs than the representative I spoke to, did.
Thank you,
Natalia
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Re: unscribe
Dave...
...might help first to spell it correctly. Then read how to unsubscribe at
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the bottom of any of these messages. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
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Re: unscribe
Cindy Ray <cindyray@...>
This is a weird message. I haven't been told at the bottom I have to view it
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on the web, though I have a sense it would say what the message said. Cindy
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Re: Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off?
ratshtron <northstar1950@...>
yes they are.
Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/15/2015 11:51 PM, Tim Ford said: ---------------------------------------- One more question, hopefully the last! Just to make sure, he does not have Windows 10 installed, he just wants to stop those invasive popup messages that JAWS reads, asking him to update from Windows 7 to 10. Are your instructions still appropriate?----------------------------------------
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Re: Program that is JAWS friendly to play movies on DVD.
Tim Ford
I do not know for sure, so please ask them before you buy.
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From: Kevin Wollenweber Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:10 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Program that is JAWS friendly to play movies on DVD. This sounds fantastic! Does it also play blu-ray disks? Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@...] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:51 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Fw: Program that is JAWS friendly to play movies on DVD. The only fully accessible player I know of is from IRTI, and costs $29.95 via download; $59.95 if you want them to ship you the install CD. It works on whatever DVD player you have attached to your computer or built-in. You can activate a movie's audio description track without sighted assistance. Although you can use the software player just fine with JAWS running, it has its own voice, and works best in that mode, so when you bring up the program, it is best to put JAWS to sleep by either exiting JAWS, or better yet, putting JAWS to sleep with the insert key space bar, then s. Here is the link to all the info. You will for sure want the instruction manual, which IRTI can give you, also by download or email attachment. I am using it with Windows 7. As mentioned above, any JAWS version is fine, since you can use the player's built-in speech. http://store.irti.net/eclipsemedia-server-pc-software/
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Re: Program that is JAWS friendly to play movies on DVD.
Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@...>
This sounds fantastic! Does it also play blu-ray disks?
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Kevin
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From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@...] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:51 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Fw: Program that is JAWS friendly to play movies on DVD. The only fully accessible player I know of is from IRTI, and costs $29.95 via download; $59.95 if you want them to ship you the install CD. It works on whatever DVD player you have attached to your computer or built-in. You can activate a movie's audio description track without sighted assistance. Although you can use the software player just fine with JAWS running, it has its own voice, and works best in that mode, so when you bring up the program, it is best to put JAWS to sleep by either exiting JAWS, or better yet, putting JAWS to sleep with the insert key space bar, then s. Here is the link to all the info. You will for sure want the instruction manual, which IRTI can give you, also by download or email attachment. I am using it with Windows 7. As mentioned above, any JAWS version is fine, since you can use the player's built-in speech. http://store.irti.net/eclipsemedia-server-pc-software/
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Re: looking for programs to play DVD's that are accessible with JAWS
Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@...>
Annabelle: I, too, have Cyberlink Power DVD, but honestly don't know how to
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use it. My version is supposed to also play blu-ray; this is the program that I find totally inaccessible with JAWS. How do you use it? What are the functions to make the program "talk" through JAWS at all? Kevin
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From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:46 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: looking for programs to play DVD's that are accessible with JAWS I have Cyberlink Power DVD which came with a laptop that I purchased a few years ago, but it's not exactly all the way accessible. I guess it depends on the DVD I'm playing within the program. -----Original Message----- From: Dacia Cole [mailto:dacia.luck@...] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 5:20 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: looking for programs to play DVD's that are accessible with JAWS Hi, I believe I've posted this before, but am not sure. If I did, my apologies. I'm looking for programs that play dVD's and allow you to navigate the menus including picking episodes if it's a tv show. I have JAWS 17 and windows 8.1 and am using a Lenovo laptop. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'd prefer free, but am happy to pay some if it's a good program.
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Re: Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off?
Tim Ford
One more question, hopefully the last! Just to make sure, he does not have Windows 10 installed, he just wants to stop those invasive popup messages that JAWS reads, asking him to update from Windows 7 to 10. Are your instructions still appropriate?
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Tim Ford
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From: ratshtron Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 9:14 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off? updates need to be set to download but let me install them that way when they are downloaded you should have a new updates in the task tray that you can click on and then you tab over to important updates and you press enter on that to bring up the list of downloaded updates. down arrow through the list till you find the kb:3035583 update and right mouse click on it. you should then down arrow down to hide update and you also uncheck the update with the spacebar before you right click on it. you can then tab to the ok button and press enter on the install button if there's other updates to install. Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/15/2015 10:49 PM, Tim Ford said: ---------------------------------------- Great! One follow-up question please. I am not familiar with how to hide the update file. Can you describe the steps for that?----------------------------------------
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Re: Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off?
ratshtron <northstar1950@...>
you are quite welcome. when the update comes back, be sure to unceck and hide the update.
Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/15/2015 10:49 PM, cecropia64 said: ---------------------------------------- Thanks for this. I just uninstalled it and am very greatful to you for this info.----------------------------------------
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Re: Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off?
ratshtron <northstar1950@...>
updates need to be set to download but let me install them that way when they are downloaded you should have a new updates in the task tray that you can click on and then you tab over to important updates and you press enter on that to bring up the list of downloaded updates. down arrow through the list till you find the kb:3035583 update and right mouse click on it. you should then down arrow down to hide update and you also uncheck the update with the spacebar before you right click on it. you can then tab to the ok button and press enter on the install button if there's other updates to install.
Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/15/2015 10:49 PM, Tim Ford said: ---------------------------------------- Great! One follow-up question please. I am not familiar with how to hide the update file. Can you describe the steps for that?----------------------------------------
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Re: Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off?
Tim Ford
Great! One follow-up question please. I am not familiar with how to hide the update file. Can you describe the steps for that?
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From: ratshtron Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:34 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off? he can go to the run command and type in: wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3035583 re-boot the system. this will uninstall the update and then when the update comes back he will need to hide the update and not install it. Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/15/2015 10:31 PM, Tim Ford said: ---------------------------------------- A friend of mine has this issue, and I am posting the question on his behalf. He has a Windows 7 machine, running JAWS 16 or 17. He is irritated by some sort of Microsoft message that keeps offering to update him to Windows 10, which he does not want to do. Is there a way to stop these nuisance messages?----------------------------------------
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Re: Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off?
cecropia64
Thanks for this. I just uninstalled it and am very greatful to you for this info.
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Thanks again.
On 12/15/2015 11:34 PM, ratshtron wrote:
he can go to the run command and type in:
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Re: Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off?
ratshtron <northstar1950@...>
he can go to the run command and type in:
wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3035583 re-boot the system. this will uninstall the update and then when the update comes back he will need to hide the update and not install it. Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/15/2015 10:31 PM, Tim Ford said: ---------------------------------------- A friend of mine has this issue, and I am posting the question on his behalf. He has a Windows 7 machine, running JAWS 16 or 17. He is irritated by some sort of Microsoft message that keeps offering to update him to Windows 10, which he does not want to do. Is there a way to stop these nuisance messages?----------------------------------------
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Can the Windows 10 update message be turned off?
Tim Ford
A friend of mine has this issue, and I am posting the question on his
behalf. He has a Windows 7 machine, running JAWS 16 or 17. He is
irritated by some sort of Microsoft message that keeps offering to update him to
Windows 10, which he does not want to do. Is there a way to stop these
nuisance messages?
Tim Ford
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