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Re: Looking to by a new computer

Richard Holloway
 

Apologies if I missed an earlier part of the thread, but I’m seeing "college student" and “computer" and not a lot of detail as to the intended use of a new machine….

i7’s are great as others have suggested, but they are expensive and may not be justified on a student’s budget. In a few years, when you’re out of school, i7’s will probably be middle-of the road processors, and far more affordable, and you may want to have the latest, greatest i9, or whatever comes out by then-- once you have more money to spend.

i5’s are more intended for the mainstream and even an i3 may be decent enough for your intended tasks, and as fast or faster than some competing processors.

If you have a ton of data to store, then drive space is important, but multiple TB's of drive space may well be overkill. Same thing with the RAM. “The more the better” is true up until you have a bunch of ram sitting constantly idle that you paid a few hundred dollars extra for. Look at the programs you want to run and look at that they ask for.

Sure, if you’re editing an audio project with dozens of tracks and many precessing effects applied, you’ll need a lot of RAM. Same thing if the machine will be editing video or such, but a basic audio project should not need all that much RAM for basic editing of a few channels.

Maybe the OP can clarify the needs for the system?

I have both i5 and i7 processors I use in both PC & Mac systems, generally with 8 or 16GB of ram. For most tasks, there is very little difference. Certainly a USB 3 port is faster than a USB 2, but mostly I find that the media I attach is slow enough that USB 3 is not that much faster than USB 2. Down the road, we’ll see more effective use of USB 3, but for now, may peripherals will cause the PC fall back to USB 2 speed anyhow. The same was true as we migrated from USB 1 to 1.1, and then to USB 2.

Case in point: last week I needed to transfer a couple of 4TB drives' contents to run full backups of some files. I thought it would be worth doing this over USB 3 as the computer and both drives were USB 3 compliant. What should have run in theory in a small fraction of the time, in reality ran maybe 25% faster than it would have with USB 2.

On the solid state drive issue, yes, they’re faster and more reliable, but it depends on how intense your processing needs are as to how much speed increase you’ll see, so focus on the reliability aspect. If you need a lot of storage, you will spend a lot more for a big solid state drive, but they are indeed nice. No matter what drive you get, you should still backup regularly to an external drive, especially for a laptop that could be stolen, and any machine can be lost to a break-in, surge or fire. When that happens, the only safe backup if an off-site backup to a removable drive or the cloud.

I don’t think the post suggesting that SSD’s are 99 times better was intended to be taken literally, but just to be clear, an SSD (from what I have read and those I have used) might be anywhere from 30 percent faster up to maybe 3 times faster. How long do you spend waiting on data transfers and documents to open? If you cut a one second wait down to seven-tenths of a second, or even one-teth of a second, who cares? On the other hand a 10 minute data transfer dropping to 3 or 4 minutes, is a big deal, so again, it really depends on what you need to do with the machine.

If budget is not unlimited, find a decently configured i5 on sale with a pre-black-friday sale and grab it. You’ll be fine and save a bunch of cash.

If the budget is wide open, then sure, grab a loaded i7 with all the trimmings and have fun...

On Nov 24, 2015, at 12:54 AM, Kelly Pierce via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I would focus on the processor. Intel released its new line of
Skylake processors in september. I aim for an i7 processor, usually
the fastest available. I also edit audio and have k1000 installed on
my machines. You will never be disappointed with a top end i7
processor running your machine.In fact, I search out computers with
the processor I want and the other elements of membory and disc space
seem to fall into place.

Kelly



On 11/23/15, Mario via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Tom, look at the amount of memory or what is known as Random Access
Memory or RAM. the more gigabytes the smoother the experience and
functioning of the system will be.
you can then look at the hard drive or what is known as storage of
programs, documents, music, video, etc. the more gigabytes, the more
space you'll have to save stuff.
is the hard drive an ssd (solid state drive) or the traditional platter
type? ssd's are about 99 times better, faster and more reliable than
platter hd's. ssd's are more commonly used for bootup drives that hold
the operating system and the programs you'll use, while hd's are used
for storage of docs, and other stuff.
how many and what version of USB ports are there.
3 is faster than 2.
what other ports are there, where are the ports located.
the keyboard is essential as it's the primary input peripheral,
speakers are essential, especially for us blind persons, unless you use
a refreshable braille display, which does not replace the monitor that
usually comes with the computer.
there's allot to consider without getting into the technical, and rather
confusing, stuff.
others may have more to contribute to your query.
hth



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Re: Looking to by a new computer

Kelly Pierce
 

I would focus on the processor. Intel released its new line of
Skylake processors in september. I aim for an i7 processor, usually
the fastest available. I also edit audio and have k1000 installed on
my machines. You will never be disappointed with a top end i7
processor running your machine.In fact, I search out computers with
the processor I want and the other elements of membory and disc space
seem to fall into place.

Kelly

On 11/23/15, Mario via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Tom, look at the amount of memory or what is known as Random Access
Memory or RAM. the more gigabytes the smoother the experience and
functioning of the system will be.
you can then look at the hard drive or what is known as storage of
programs, documents, music, video, etc. the more gigabytes, the more
space you'll have to save stuff.
is the hard drive an ssd (solid state drive) or the traditional platter
type? ssd's are about 99 times better, faster and more reliable than
platter hd's. ssd's are more commonly used for bootup drives that hold
the operating system and the programs you'll use, while hd's are used
for storage of docs, and other stuff.
how many and what version of USB ports are there.
3 is faster than 2.
what other ports are there, where are the ports located.
the keyboard is essential as it's the primary input peripheral,
speakers are essential, especially for us blind persons, unless you use
a refreshable braille display, which does not replace the monitor that
usually comes with the computer.
there's allot to consider without getting into the technical, and rather
confusing, stuff.
others may have more to contribute to your query.
hth



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Re: Looking to by a new computer

David Ingram
 

Are you looking to buy a desk top system or another laptop?? If you
plan to buy a desktop system, then you should know what do you plan to use
the system for? If you are in to creating music then a system geared for
music production would be more of what you want. If you plan to use a
system for word processing, then you should get an off the shelf system
which would have plenty of hard drive space, a quad coar system maybe an I 7
processor with 32gb of ram 1 or 2 tb hard drives with windows 7
professional. What ever version of jaws that you like. Hope that this will
help give some clarity to your question.

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Subject: Looking to by a new computer

HelloHello, I am looking to purchase a new laptop. I am a college
studentstudent. What should I look for when it comes to system requirements?
I am using Jaws 16. Thanks, Tom Macha
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Re: Another Win for Chrome

David Moore
 

Hi Gary,
I am so happy for you. I did make Google Chrome my default browser a week ago and have not looked back. I am so glad I tried Chrome and found how accessible it is. I reached out to all lists to tell people and backed it up with a tutorial. I get to pages that I could never open with IE or Firefox. Gary, you tried Chrome and received your reward. Take care and have a great one. Happy for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary King via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:29 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Gary King
Subject: Another Win for Chrome

I haven't yet made Google Chrome my default browser, but after my recent experience with Amazon, I am thinking about it.

As an Amazon Prime member, I can get a free Kindle book each month from a list of "Kindle First" books they send me. I tried it for the first time today and couldn't get it done with Internet Explorer 11 and the latest build of JAWS version 16. The page I needed to get the free book just wouldn't come up in the browser when I activated the link for my chosen book. The poor Amazon representative tried to help me, but we finally had to give it up with IE11. I told her that I would try Chrome to see if it would work better. Wish I had done that first! It worked perfectly, and I am currently listening to the book with the Kindle app on my iPad.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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Another Win for Chrome

Gary King
 

I haven't yet made Google Chrome my default browser, but after my recent experience with Amazon, I am thinking about it.

As an Amazon Prime member, I can get a free Kindle book each month from a list of "Kindle First" books they send me. I tried it for the first time today and couldn't get it done with Internet Explorer 11 and the latest build of JAWS version 16. The page I needed to get the free book just wouldn't come up in the browser when I activated the link for my chosen book. The poor Amazon representative tried to help me, but we finally had to give it up with IE11. I told her that I would try Chrome to see if it would work better. Wish I had done that first! It worked perfectly, and I am currently listening to the book with the Kindle app on my iPad.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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Re: Does Anyone Have a Focus 80 for Sale

James Homuth
 

Items for sale/trade really aren't very appropriate for this list.

James,
List Admin

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Molen via Jfw
Sent: November-23-15 4:55 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Van Der Molen
Subject: Does Anyone Have a Focus 80 for Sale

Does anyone have a USB-only Focus 80 braille display they'd like to get rid
of? If so, E-mail me at dvm975@gmail.com

Thanks.

Dave

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Re: need steps to enable cookies

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for these clear steps. I will try them and hope I can follow them
correctly. I am using I.E.

Barbara

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Re: Using An Alva Satellite Pro 80-Cell Display with Jaws

Debby Hill
 

Hi Dave,


As far as I know this is true. Unfortunately I have one of these displays at work and now it is a really expensive doorstop. Or I should say that with its shape, it is n expensive thick doormat!



Sent from Debby's iPad

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Re: need steps to enable cookies

Adrian Spratt
 

Barbara,

You'll need to say which browser you're using. Meanwhile, you may want to look at your browser's security settings.

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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:38 PM
To: Jfw lists
Cc: Barbara Hansen
Subject: need steps to enable cookies

Hi all,



Recently, I have not been able to get on facebook. The computer says that
"cookies" are not enabled. I googled for instructions on how to enable
"cookies", however; some of the video was explaining to "click" on symbols,
which I was not able to determine what they meant. I did go under internet
options, and tried checking some things, but still cookies are not enabled.



Any instructions for jaws users would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara Hansen



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Re: need steps to enable cookies

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Barbara,

Try the following, if you're wanting this for IE:
1. Open Internet Explorer.

2. Open the tools menu with alt t, type the letter, O, to open the options
dialog, & shift + tab one time.
3. Right arrow until you get to privacy.
4. Tab until you get to a button that says advanced settings, & press the
space bar to open.
5. You are now in a new dialog. Check the check box that says override
automatic cookie handling if it isn't already checked. Use the space bar
to check it.
6. Now, start tabbing & you will come to a field with radio buttons, If
allow isn't the radio button
that is selected, up arrow until that radio button is checked.
7. Tab once to another series of radio buttons. This series controls third
party cookies. Up or down arrow until block is checked. Third party
cookies are almost always tracking cookies.
8. Tab once more and, if the check box that says, Always allow session
cookies is
not checked, check it with the space bar.
9. Tab to the ok button and press the space bar, & follow the prompts.
Answer yes if asked if you are sure, if you are placed in another dialog,
tab until you find another ok button and activate it.

Take care.
Mike

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From: Barbara Hansen via Jfw
To: Jfw lists
Cc: Barbara Hansen
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 2:38 PM
Subject: need steps to enable cookies


Hi all,



Recently, I have not been able to get on facebook. The computer says that
"cookies" are not enabled. I googled for instructions on how to enable
"cookies", however; some of the video was explaining to "click" on symbols,
which I was not able to determine what they meant. I did go under internet
options, and tried checking some things, but still cookies are not enabled.



Any instructions for jaws users would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara Hansen



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need steps to enable cookies

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

Hi all,



Recently, I have not been able to get on facebook. The computer says that
"cookies" are not enabled. I googled for instructions on how to enable
"cookies", however; some of the video was explaining to "click" on symbols,
which I was not able to determine what they meant. I did go under internet
options, and tried checking some things, but still cookies are not enabled.



Any instructions for jaws users would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara Hansen



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Does Anyone Have a Focus 80 for Sale

Dave Van Der Molen <dvm975@...>
 

Does anyone have a USB-only Focus 80 braille display they'd like to get rid of? If so, E-mail me at dvm975@gmail.com

Thanks.

Dave


Using An Alva Satellite Pro 80-Cell Display with Jaws

Dave Van Der Molen <dvm975@...>
 

I have heard that Alva Satellite Pro braille displays work with Jaws only on 32-bit Windows PCs. Is this true? Is there any way to make this display work on a 64-bit system running Jaws?

Dave


Re: Looking to by a new computer

Mario
 

Tom, look at the amount of memory or what is known as Random Access Memory or RAM. the more gigabytes the smoother the experience and functioning of the system will be.
you can then look at the hard drive or what is known as storage of programs, documents, music, video, etc. the more gigabytes, the more space you'll have to save stuff.
is the hard drive an ssd (solid state drive) or the traditional platter type? ssd's are about 99 times better, faster and more reliable than platter hd's. ssd's are more commonly used for bootup drives that hold the operating system and the programs you'll use, while hd's are used for storage of docs, and other stuff.
how many and what version of USB ports are there.
3 is faster than 2.
what other ports are there, where are the ports located.
the keyboard is essential as it's the primary input peripheral,
speakers are essential, especially for us blind persons, unless you use a refreshable braille display, which does not replace the monitor that usually comes with the computer.
there's allot to consider without getting into the technical, and rather confusing, stuff.
others may have more to contribute to your query.
hth

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Looking to by a new computer

Tom Macha <toml614@...>
 

HelloHello, I am looking to purchase a new laptop. I am a college studentstudent. What should I look for when it comes to system requirements? I am using Jaws 16. Thanks, Tom Macha
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Re: is there a guide for working in Windows 10?

David Moore
 

Hi,
I took the tutorials for using win10 out of my Drop Box, because so many people were having trouble downloading the entire folder. However, here is a new link from my One Drive. You do not need One Drive to download these tutorials. The count is now 33, because a lot more have been added. You will learn so much about how to change settings to using many applications in win10. Here is the link. Just press enter on the link, and a page will come up with the tutorials, just enter on the tutorials and save them to your computer. Now, here is the link:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=FC08B4DECA54CB10!6398&authkey=!AOFX8osvS02oL4k&ithint=folder%2ctxt

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:10 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: DJ
Subject: RE: is there a guide for working in Windows 10?

I just saw this message. Was the folder taken out of your dropbox? It no
longer seems to be available.

Thanks,

DJ


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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 4:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: is there a guide for working in Windows 10?

Hi all.
Here is a drop box link to a folder with 24 tutorials concerning how to
install win 10 and everything you need to know how to use it and customize
it. You will learn about everything there is to know about win 10. Here is
the link and you do not need drop box to download this folder. Take care and
let me know how this works for you. Here is the link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0g6lsnu4map1lm/AADalvpAHamNco1OwroiJ7AUa?dl=0

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Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 8:10 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter tesar
Subject: Re: is there a guide for working in Windows 10?

Hello,

The best way is to search the web for Windows 10 and the word "guide" or
other words like "basic", "easy" or "beginner".

The web is your best bet and learn to use it. There is a lot of information
out there.

Peter T.

On 11/2/2015 6:06 AM, John Gurd via Jfw wrote:
Has anyone come across a gide for Jaws users to be able to quickly
familiarise themselves with Windows 10. I've just upgraded from
Windows 7 and it's taking a while to figure out where everything is.


Thanks


John


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Re: Windows Tablets

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Tom, I have a really useful case I bought from Target. My keyboard goes in
its own separate pocket, the Surface goes in front of it in its own pocket.
It's really not hard to carry around whatever I need to transport the
Surface. Remember, Bluetooth keyboards are not typically full-sized
keyboards, so they are quite light. My Logitech keyboard fits that
statement.

Les

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Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 11:16 AM
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Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Ed:

I truly appreciate these observations.

I'm now in the process of learning the IPhone 6, and like you, I'm finding
the touch screen to be a challenge and a contributor to a very slow learning
curve. I'm getting there, but can't imagine using the IPhone for
applications that would require a lot of keyboard entry.

For this reason, I definitely will factor in the cost of a keyboard when
considering my windows tablet purchase. Of course, having a keyboard will
make the device less portable, which is something else I'm going to have to
consider in the long run.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 3:16 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I would take special care before buying a tablet computer if you are totally
blind. Perhaps I should offer up a definition of a tablet. By tablet, I'm
referring to a computing device larger than a phone that has a touch screen
only, and no readily available keyboard.
Computing devices that have auxiliary keyboards are excluded from my
definition. There is NO WAY someone, going by touch alone (and no sight),
can type as efficiently or as accurately on a touch screen as one can on a
device with a physical keyboard.
I know a little about touch screen devices. I've used an iPhone for 6 years
(from a 3s to a 6s), and although I love my phones, I dictate. When I have
to type something, it is a pain.
Similarly, I have an UltraBook (a Yoga IdeaPad), a device with both a touch
screen and a real keyboard, and I've had it for 4 years (since before JAWS
had touch gestures).
I've used the touchscreen fewer than 3 times. Frustrated with typing on the
touch keyboard, I always revert to the Yoga's built-in keyboard.
Perhaps it is just me, and I am exceptionally awkward, but I'm just honestly
sharing my experience.
So, if you are totally blind, when considering a tablet, make sure to factor
in the cost of a keyboard too.



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Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Do these tablets have USB inputs for external hard drives, DVD drives, etc?
Thanks. Keith

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I have a Surface Pro and I'm very pleased with it. The prices have come
down since I purchased mine last year. You can find less expensive tablets,
but I believe at least for me, the additional cost is worth it. I initially
purchased a Dell tablet and had to return it. It was under $500 but didn't
function properly. I'm running Jaws 17 with Office 2013 and Windows 10 and
the only program that crashes on occasion is Internet Explorer, and that
will happen regardless of what you buy or what operating system you run.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:15 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

From what I hear, the Surface Pro works very well. A few months ago, I
purchased a tablet size Asus model, with a laptop style keyboard as part of
the computer itself. I got it from Amazon for around 170 bucks. Doesn't
have a lot of hard drive space, but it is pretty fast. I purchased a Micro
SD card for initial storage purposes for around 15 dollars. The computer is
very light weight, and easy to travel with. If you use something like this,
I would recommend a drop box account, so you can put your files there, and
grab them when you get back home for your big computer.

One thing to keep in mind when searching for a Tablet. Make sure it is
running a full version of Windows, and not Windows RT. The RT systems won't
run JAWS. Good luck!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Windows Tablets

Hello, everyone.



I have a question that I hope will not be considered off topic for this
list.



I would like to purchase some sort of a Windows tablet to use when
traveling, and for when I don't want to drag my laptop computer around.



I am currently using Jaws 16, but plan to upgrade to Jaws 17 at some point,
probably in the next few months.



I assume that any windows-based tablet that I might get now will
automatically come with Windows 10 installed, which I'm ok with, since I'll
eventually need to upgrade my other computers to that operating system at
some point.



Can anyone give me recommendations and approximate costs of windows tablets
that would have sufficient resources to accommodate Jaws, and basic
Microsoft software such as Microsoft Office, Outlook e-mail, etc.?



At one point, I had considered moving to an IPad, but I am quite comfortable
with the Jaws to windows interface, so would prefer to stick with a Windows
tablet if at all possible.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Google sheets and Jaws?

Marianne Denning
 

If you are running JAWS 16 latest version you should be able to read
it if accessibility is turned on in Google Drive. Do you have a
google account?

On 11/22/15, Ann Marie Medlar via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hello all,
I have a spreadsheet created in googlesheets.
It is a link on a website. I cannot read it with Jaws.
Is there a way to open this link using Excel2013 Windows10 Jaws16?
Thanks,
Ann



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Re: strange thing with windows upgrade

Debbie April Yuille
 

I'm not sure as I haven't used the media creation tool. I waited until windows 10 was available in windows update.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kristoffer Gustafsson via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2015 11:52 PM
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Subject: Re: strange thing with windows upgrade

Hi.
Ok, and when I've burned it. is it just to enter the serial on windows
7 I have on my laptop during installation?
If so it would be much easier to upgrade my computers.
/Kristoffer

2015-11-22 13:24 GMT+01:00, Debbie April Yuille via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>:
Hi Kristoffer

I believe Microsoft take a lot longer validating laptops than they do for
desktops. It has taken this long since I reserved my laptop for an upgrade
back in July for the update to say that is ready for me to get windows 10.
Yet, when I reserved my desktop for windows 10, I got a notification within
two months of my reservation.

If you really want to run windows 10 on your laptop and don't want to wait
for the update, try using the media creation tool and if you don't like
windows 10 or think that it doesn't run that well, you have a month to go
back provided you haven't deleted your windows.old folder.

HTH
Debbie
s

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kristoffer
Gustafsson via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2015 11:03 PM
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Cc: Kristoffer Gustafsson <kg.kristoffer@gmail.com>
Subject: strange thing with windows upgrade

Hi.
I've got some strange problem.
On a desktop I have it says that I can download windows 10, and on my
laptop I can not download at all. It says that I'll get an e-mail when
it is ready.
I've waited about a month for this. What can be wrong here?
/Kristoffer

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Admin: List Migration Schedule

James Homuth
 

Folks,

As announced on this list last week, we'll be moving over to a groups.io
list as of precisely next Monday (as in, 1 week from tomorrow). What does
this mean for list membership? Presently, the list we're moving to is closed
to new subscriptions. This is so I can get most things set up ahead of the
list move. The new list, however, is online and I'll include the link to
view it in this message. The following will happen, in relatively short
order, on Monday, November 30.
* Posting to this list will be turned off, and new subscriptions will be
closed. A message will be sent out to people trying to subscribe to this
list indicating where they should go instead.
* Existing members of this list will be manually added to the new groups.io
list. Posting to the new groups.io list can begin the moment you've been
informed you are subscribed to that list.
* I will be working with groups.io after everyone is moved over to have the
messages from this list transferred to the new list. There are roughly 10
years worth of messages in the current archive, and we're not going to lose
those. When the transfer is finished, the entire archive will be searchable,
publicly, on groups.io.
* this list will remain active, but in name only. It will redirect people to
the groups.io list, similar to how those of you who were with us on
Freelists will remember I set up when I moved us to where we're at now. When
it looks like most things have taken the hint, and updated their links to
point to the groups.io list, this list will be shut down.
* When the new list is up and running, your moderation team will be
announced. I've started the selection process already, and will be speaking
to those of you who will be moving forward with that process over the next
couple days. A reminder that you can still express your interest in helping
to moderate the list until the official moving date of November 30.

If you have any questions re: this process, you can reach me off-list at:
james@the-jdh.com

To get a look at what we'll be using for our new list, and to take note of
important email addresses, direct yourselves to this page:
http://groups.io/g/jfw

This should be a relatively painless transition, but as always, any issues
that crop up, your new list moderators and I will be keeping an ear out.
General ways to contact all of us, when we go live, are available on the
page I just linked. If it breaks in transition, let us know. If it breaks
badly enough, you get to keep both pieces--but still, let us know.
Otherwise, keep on doing what you do and let's make the new list as awesome
a resource as the old one, if not better.

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