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Re: strange thing with windows upgrade

Debbie April Yuille
 

I'm not sure as I haven't used the media creation tool. I waited until windows 10 was available in windows update.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2015 11:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kristoffer Gustafsson <kg.kristoffer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: strange thing with windows upgrade

Hi.
Ok, and when I've burned it. is it just to enter the serial on windows
7 I have on my laptop during installation?
If so it would be much easier to upgrade my computers.
/Kristoffer

2015-11-22 13:24 GMT+01:00, Debbie April Yuille via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>:
Hi Kristoffer

I believe Microsoft take a lot longer validating laptops than they do for
desktops. It has taken this long since I reserved my laptop for an upgrade
back in July for the update to say that is ready for me to get windows 10.
Yet, when I reserved my desktop for windows 10, I got a notification within
two months of my reservation.

If you really want to run windows 10 on your laptop and don't want to wait
for the update, try using the media creation tool and if you don't like
windows 10 or think that it doesn't run that well, you have a month to go
back provided you haven't deleted your windows.old folder.

HTH
Debbie
s

-----Original Message-----
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Gustafsson via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2015 11:03 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kristoffer Gustafsson <kg.kristoffer@gmail.com>
Subject: strange thing with windows upgrade

Hi.
I've got some strange problem.
On a desktop I have it says that I can download windows 10, and on my
laptop I can not download at all. It says that I'll get an e-mail when
it is ready.
I've waited about a month for this. What can be wrong here?
/Kristoffer

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Admin: List Migration Schedule

James Homuth
 

Folks,

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list as of precisely next Monday (as in, 1 week from tomorrow). What does
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to new subscriptions. This is so I can get most things set up ahead of the
list move. The new list, however, is online and I'll include the link to
view it in this message. The following will happen, in relatively short
order, on Monday, November 30.
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* this list will remain active, but in name only. It will redirect people to
the groups.io list, similar to how those of you who were with us on
Freelists will remember I set up when I moved us to where we're at now. When
it looks like most things have taken the hint, and updated their links to
point to the groups.io list, this list will be shut down.
* When the new list is up and running, your moderation team will be
announced. I've started the selection process already, and will be speaking
to those of you who will be moving forward with that process over the next
couple days. A reminder that you can still express your interest in helping
to moderate the list until the official moving date of November 30.

If you have any questions re: this process, you can reach me off-list at:
james@the-jdh.com

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Re: Windows Tablets

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

My husband couldn't get over how fast I could text or enter names when I
took a step backward on the phone and got a feature phone. I'm really
happy that I did, but I'm not working now and don't need a computer
on-the-go.It always seemed like things under that touch screen were
swimming.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 11:16 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Ed:

I truly appreciate these observations.

I'm now in the process of learning the IPhone 6, and like you, I'm
finding the touch screen to be a challenge and a contributor to a very
slow learning curve. I'm getting there, but can't imagine using the
IPhone for applications that would require a lot of keyboard entry.

For this reason, I definitely will factor in the cost of a keyboard when
considering my windows tablet purchase. Of course, having a keyboard
will make the device less portable, which is something else I'm going to
have to consider in the long run.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 3:16 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I would take special care before buying a tablet computer if you are
totally blind. Perhaps I should offer up a definition of a tablet. By
tablet, I'm referring to a computing device larger than a phone that has
a touch screen only, and no readily available keyboard.
Computing devices that have auxiliary keyboards are excluded from my
definition. There is NO WAY someone, going by touch alone (and no
sight), can type as efficiently or as accurately on a touch screen as one
can on a device with a physical keyboard.
I know a little about touch screen devices. I've used an iPhone for 6
years (from a 3s to a 6s), and although I love my phones, I dictate.
When I have to type something, it is a pain.
Similarly, I have an UltraBook (a Yoga IdeaPad), a device with both a
touch screen and a real keyboard, and I've had it for 4 years (since
before JAWS had touch gestures).
I've used the touchscreen fewer than 3 times. Frustrated with typing on
the touch keyboard, I always revert to the Yoga's built-in keyboard.
Perhaps it is just me, and I am exceptionally awkward, but I'm just
honestly sharing my experience.
So, if you are totally blind, when considering a tablet, make sure to
factor in the cost of a keyboard too.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger,
Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Do these tablets have USB inputs for external hard drives, DVD drives,
etc?
Thanks. Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les
Kriegler via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I have a Surface Pro and I'm very pleased with it. The prices have come
down since I purchased mine last year. You can find less expensive
tablets, but I believe at least for me, the additional cost is worth it.
I initially purchased a Dell tablet and had to return it. It was under
$500 but didn't function properly. I'm running Jaws 17 with Office 2013
and Windows 10 and the only program that crashes on occasion is Internet
Explorer, and that will happen regardless of what you buy or what
operating system you run.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Mote via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:15 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

From what I hear, the Surface Pro works very well. A few months ago, I
purchased a tablet size Asus model, with a laptop style keyboard as part
of the computer itself. I got it from Amazon for around 170 bucks.
Doesn't have a lot of hard drive space, but it is pretty fast. I
purchased a Micro SD card for initial storage purposes for around 15
dollars. The computer is very light weight, and easy to travel with. If
you use something like this, I would recommend a drop box account, so you
can put your files there, and grab them when you get back home for your
big computer.

One thing to keep in mind when searching for a Tablet. Make sure it is
running a full version of Windows, and not Windows RT. The RT systems
won't run JAWS. Good luck!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Windows Tablets

Hello, everyone.



I have a question that I hope will not be considered off topic for this
list.



I would like to purchase some sort of a Windows tablet to use when
traveling, and for when I don't want to drag my laptop computer around.



I am currently using Jaws 16, but plan to upgrade to Jaws 17 at some
point, probably in the next few months.



I assume that any windows-based tablet that I might get now will
automatically come with Windows 10 installed, which I'm ok with, since
I'll eventually need to upgrade my other computers to that operating
system at some point.



Can anyone give me recommendations and approximate costs of windows
tablets that would have sufficient resources to accommodate Jaws, and
basic Microsoft software such as Microsoft Office, Outlook e-mail, etc.?



At one point, I had considered moving to an IPad, but I am quite
comfortable with the Jaws to windows interface, so would prefer to stick
with a Windows tablet if at all possible.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Windows Tablets

Tom Behler
 

Drew:

Can you tell me what kind of tablet they have, and the approximate cost?

So as not to clutter up the list, please e-mail me privately at:

tombehler@gmail.com

I would have responded to you personally, but couldn't pull your e-mail
address out of your most recent list post.

Thank you.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 11:52 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Drew Hunthausen
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Tom,
I don't have one myself, but two of my family members have tablets with a
special keyboard case. It definitely makes the tablet larger and thicker,
but still very portable and easy to use. The tablet, like an iPad for
example, goes in one side of the case and the keyboard is in the other. You
open it just like a lap top except it is much smaller and more portable.
Hope this helps


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:16 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Ed:

I truly appreciate these observations.

I'm now in the process of learning the IPhone 6, and like you, I'm finding
the touch screen to be a challenge and a contributor to a very slow learning
curve. I'm getting there, but can't imagine using the IPhone for
applications that would require a lot of keyboard entry.

For this reason, I definitely will factor in the cost of a keyboard when
considering my windows tablet purchase. Of course, having a keyboard will
make the device less portable, which is something else I'm going to have to
consider in the long run.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 3:16 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I would take special care before buying a tablet computer if you are totally
blind. Perhaps I should offer up a definition of a tablet. By tablet, I'm
referring to a computing device larger than a phone that has a touch screen
only, and no readily available keyboard.
Computing devices that have auxiliary keyboards are excluded from my
definition. There is NO WAY someone, going by touch alone (and no sight),
can type as efficiently or as accurately on a touch screen as one can on a
device with a physical keyboard.
I know a little about touch screen devices. I've used an iPhone for 6 years
(from a 3s to a 6s), and although I love my phones, I dictate. When I have
to type something, it is a pain.
Similarly, I have an UltraBook (a Yoga IdeaPad), a device with both a touch
screen and a real keyboard, and I've had it for 4 years (since before JAWS
had touch gestures).
I've used the touchscreen fewer than 3 times. Frustrated with typing on the
touch keyboard, I always revert to the Yoga's built-in keyboard.
Perhaps it is just me, and I am exceptionally awkward, but I'm just honestly
sharing my experience.
So, if you are totally blind, when considering a tablet, make sure to factor
in the cost of a keyboard too.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger,
Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Do these tablets have USB inputs for external hard drives, DVD drives, etc?
Thanks. Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I have a Surface Pro and I'm very pleased with it. The prices have come
down since I purchased mine last year. You can find less expensive tablets,
but I believe at least for me, the additional cost is worth it. I initially
purchased a Dell tablet and had to return it. It was under $500 but didn't
function properly. I'm running Jaws 17 with Office 2013 and Windows 10 and
the only program that crashes on occasion is Internet Explorer, and that
will happen regardless of what you buy or what operating system you run.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:15 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

From what I hear, the Surface Pro works very well. A few months ago, I
purchased a tablet size Asus model, with a laptop style keyboard as part of
the computer itself. I got it from Amazon for around 170 bucks. Doesn't
have a lot of hard drive space, but it is pretty fast. I purchased a Micro
SD card for initial storage purposes for around 15 dollars. The computer is
very light weight, and easy to travel with. If you use something like this,
I would recommend a drop box account, so you can put your files there, and
grab them when you get back home for your big computer.

One thing to keep in mind when searching for a Tablet. Make sure it is
running a full version of Windows, and not Windows RT. The RT systems won't
run JAWS. Good luck!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Windows Tablets

Hello, everyone.



I have a question that I hope will not be considered off topic for this
list.



I would like to purchase some sort of a Windows tablet to use when
traveling, and for when I don't want to drag my laptop computer around.



I am currently using Jaws 16, but plan to upgrade to Jaws 17 at some point,
probably in the next few months.



I assume that any windows-based tablet that I might get now will
automatically come with Windows 10 installed, which I'm ok with, since I'll
eventually need to upgrade my other computers to that operating system at
some point.



Can anyone give me recommendations and approximate costs of windows tablets
that would have sufficient resources to accommodate Jaws, and basic
Microsoft software such as Microsoft Office, Outlook e-mail, etc.?



At one point, I had considered moving to an IPad, but I am quite comfortable
with the Jaws to windows interface, so would prefer to stick with a Windows
tablet if at all possible.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Windows Tablets

Drew Hunthausen
 

Tom,
I don't have one myself, but two of my family members have tablets with a
special keyboard case. It definitely makes the tablet larger and thicker,
but still very portable and easy to use. The tablet, like an iPad for
example, goes in one side of the case and the keyboard is in the other. You
open it just like a lap top except it is much smaller and more portable.
Hope this helps

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:16 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Ed:

I truly appreciate these observations.

I'm now in the process of learning the IPhone 6, and like you, I'm finding
the touch screen to be a challenge and a contributor to a very slow learning
curve. I'm getting there, but can't imagine using the IPhone for
applications that would require a lot of keyboard entry.

For this reason, I definitely will factor in the cost of a keyboard when
considering my windows tablet purchase. Of course, having a keyboard will
make the device less portable, which is something else I'm going to have to
consider in the long run.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 3:16 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I would take special care before buying a tablet computer if you are totally
blind. Perhaps I should offer up a definition of a tablet. By tablet, I'm
referring to a computing device larger than a phone that has a touch screen
only, and no readily available keyboard.
Computing devices that have auxiliary keyboards are excluded from my
definition. There is NO WAY someone, going by touch alone (and no sight),
can type as efficiently or as accurately on a touch screen as one can on a
device with a physical keyboard.
I know a little about touch screen devices. I've used an iPhone for 6 years
(from a 3s to a 6s), and although I love my phones, I dictate. When I have
to type something, it is a pain.
Similarly, I have an UltraBook (a Yoga IdeaPad), a device with both a touch
screen and a real keyboard, and I've had it for 4 years (since before JAWS
had touch gestures).
I've used the touchscreen fewer than 3 times. Frustrated with typing on the
touch keyboard, I always revert to the Yoga's built-in keyboard.
Perhaps it is just me, and I am exceptionally awkward, but I'm just honestly
sharing my experience.
So, if you are totally blind, when considering a tablet, make sure to factor
in the cost of a keyboard too.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger,
Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Do these tablets have USB inputs for external hard drives, DVD drives, etc?
Thanks. Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I have a Surface Pro and I'm very pleased with it. The prices have come
down since I purchased mine last year. You can find less expensive tablets,
but I believe at least for me, the additional cost is worth it. I initially
purchased a Dell tablet and had to return it. It was under $500 but didn't
function properly. I'm running Jaws 17 with Office 2013 and Windows 10 and
the only program that crashes on occasion is Internet Explorer, and that
will happen regardless of what you buy or what operating system you run.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:15 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

From what I hear, the Surface Pro works very well. A few months ago, I
purchased a tablet size Asus model, with a laptop style keyboard as part of
the computer itself. I got it from Amazon for around 170 bucks. Doesn't
have a lot of hard drive space, but it is pretty fast. I purchased a Micro
SD card for initial storage purposes for around 15 dollars. The computer is
very light weight, and easy to travel with. If you use something like this,
I would recommend a drop box account, so you can put your files there, and
grab them when you get back home for your big computer.

One thing to keep in mind when searching for a Tablet. Make sure it is
running a full version of Windows, and not Windows RT. The RT systems won't
run JAWS. Good luck!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Windows Tablets

Hello, everyone.



I have a question that I hope will not be considered off topic for this
list.



I would like to purchase some sort of a Windows tablet to use when
traveling, and for when I don't want to drag my laptop computer around.



I am currently using Jaws 16, but plan to upgrade to Jaws 17 at some point,
probably in the next few months.



I assume that any windows-based tablet that I might get now will
automatically come with Windows 10 installed, which I'm ok with, since I'll
eventually need to upgrade my other computers to that operating system at
some point.



Can anyone give me recommendations and approximate costs of windows tablets
that would have sufficient resources to accommodate Jaws, and basic
Microsoft software such as Microsoft Office, Outlook e-mail, etc.?



At one point, I had considered moving to an IPad, but I am quite comfortable
with the Jaws to windows interface, so would prefer to stick with a Windows
tablet if at all possible.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Languages

Soronel Haetir
 

To create a profile go to the jaws menu then Options -> voices ->
Voice adjustment.

To change profiles I use the jaws+ctrl+s combination.

Note that if your normal profile is based on the same synthesizer that
the new voices use and you use the windows language profile method
then jaws will automatically switch voices in programs like Word that
have support for multiple input languages. Meaning that if you switch
the windows language and start typing and the current jaws synthesizer
supports that language then jaws will simply switch to that language.

To switch the windows language (after using the region and languages
control panel to add one), use alt+left shift to toggle through the
available languages.

On 11/18/15, Keight Best via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
Thank you for your help. I appreciate it. I listened to both of those
voices and like both of them a lot, so I downloaded both of them for
when I feel like changing it up.
How do I create a language profile for them and what's the shortcut
kys to switch between profiles?
Thank you,
Caitlin

On 11/18/15, Cristóbal via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Wouldn't you know, I was curious and went to the Jaws synth page and
Japanese was an option for Vocalizer Expressive. VE voices are really
quite
good. I use American English, Spanish Mexico (Juan high premium) and play
with German as I am trying to learn that language. I'm sure Japanese is of
similar good quality. They apparently offer two options; Kyoko and Otoya.
To
my ear, they sound fine, but that's a subjective thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Nermin
Subject: Re: Languages

Hi Kate,

I believe Nuance has a voice named Kioko that you can download and use
with

JAWS.
Just go to help and more voices from within the JAWS menu.
This will open up a website where you can navigate to Japanese by heading.
You can listen to a voice sample and download the voice from there.
As far as Braille in Japanese is concerned, I don't really know much, let
alone how to enter Kanji or other symbols.
I think a Japanese version of JAWS is available, but no idea how recent it
is.

Regards,
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Re: Windows Tablets

Tom Behler
 

Ed:

I truly appreciate these observations.

I'm now in the process of learning the IPhone 6, and like you, I'm finding
the touch screen to be a challenge and a contributor to a very slow learning
curve. I'm getting there, but can't imagine using the IPhone for
applications that would require a lot of keyboard entry.

For this reason, I definitely will factor in the cost of a keyboard when
considering my windows tablet purchase. Of course, having a keyboard will
make the device less portable, which is something else I'm going to have to
consider in the long run.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 3:16 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I would take special care before buying a tablet computer if you are totally
blind. Perhaps I should offer up a definition of a tablet. By tablet, I'm
referring to a computing device larger than a phone that has a touch screen
only, and no readily available keyboard.
Computing devices that have auxiliary keyboards are excluded from my
definition. There is NO WAY someone, going by touch alone (and no sight),
can type as efficiently or as accurately on a touch screen as one can on a
device with a physical keyboard.
I know a little about touch screen devices. I've used an iPhone for 6 years
(from a 3s to a 6s), and although I love my phones, I dictate. When I have
to type something, it is a pain.
Similarly, I have an UltraBook (a Yoga IdeaPad), a device with both a touch
screen and a real keyboard, and I've had it for 4 years (since before JAWS
had touch gestures).
I've used the touchscreen fewer than 3 times. Frustrated with typing on the
touch keyboard, I always revert to the Yoga's built-in keyboard.
Perhaps it is just me, and I am exceptionally awkward, but I'm just honestly
sharing my experience.
So, if you are totally blind, when considering a tablet, make sure to factor
in the cost of a keyboard too.



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Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Do these tablets have USB inputs for external hard drives, DVD drives, etc?
Thanks. Keith

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I have a Surface Pro and I'm very pleased with it. The prices have come
down since I purchased mine last year. You can find less expensive tablets,
but I believe at least for me, the additional cost is worth it. I initially
purchased a Dell tablet and had to return it. It was under $500 but didn't
function properly. I'm running Jaws 17 with Office 2013 and Windows 10 and
the only program that crashes on occasion is Internet Explorer, and that
will happen regardless of what you buy or what operating system you run.

Les

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:15 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

From what I hear, the Surface Pro works very well. A few months ago, I
purchased a tablet size Asus model, with a laptop style keyboard as part of
the computer itself. I got it from Amazon for around 170 bucks. Doesn't
have a lot of hard drive space, but it is pretty fast. I purchased a Micro
SD card for initial storage purposes for around 15 dollars. The computer is
very light weight, and easy to travel with. If you use something like this,
I would recommend a drop box account, so you can put your files there, and
grab them when you get back home for your big computer.

One thing to keep in mind when searching for a Tablet. Make sure it is
running a full version of Windows, and not Windows RT. The RT systems won't
run JAWS. Good luck!


-----Original Message-----
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Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Windows Tablets

Hello, everyone.



I have a question that I hope will not be considered off topic for this
list.



I would like to purchase some sort of a Windows tablet to use when
traveling, and for when I don't want to drag my laptop computer around.



I am currently using Jaws 16, but plan to upgrade to Jaws 17 at some point,
probably in the next few months.



I assume that any windows-based tablet that I might get now will
automatically come with Windows 10 installed, which I'm ok with, since I'll
eventually need to upgrade my other computers to that operating system at
some point.



Can anyone give me recommendations and approximate costs of windows tablets
that would have sufficient resources to accommodate Jaws, and basic
Microsoft software such as Microsoft Office, Outlook e-mail, etc.?



At one point, I had considered moving to an IPad, but I am quite comfortable
with the Jaws to windows interface, so would prefer to stick with a Windows
tablet if at all possible.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

Ann Byrne
 

If you use Eudora, even when you move the scripts from an earlier version of JAWS, the graphics in the mailboxes--read, unread, replied--don't read unless you constantly refresh the scripts with insert-ctrl-esc.


Re: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I have upgraded to Jaws17, and am not having any problems. It is up to you as to whether or not you want to upgrade.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimberly
Subject: Re: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

I wouldn't, especially if you are happy with how jaws 16 is working. In fact I have gone back to version 16 after discovering some annoying bugs in 17.

I have found the forms mode settings to be quirky at best and totally messed up at worst. Also numpad differentiation doesn't seem to work in certain applications.

Kimber

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Nov 21, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hi,

I'm happily running JAWS 16 on my Windows 7 64-bit laptop, and using Office 2010.

Is there any reason NOT to upgrade to JAWS 17?

Thanks, Keith

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Re: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

Kimber Gardner
 

I wouldn't, especially if you are happy with how jaws 16 is working. In fact I have gone back to version 16 after discovering some annoying bugs in 17.

I have found the forms mode settings to be quirky at best and totally messed up at worst. Also numpad differentiation doesn't seem to work in certain applications.

Kimber

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Nov 21, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hi,

I'm happily running JAWS 16 on my Windows 7 64-bit laptop, and using Office 2010.

Is there any reason NOT to upgrade to JAWS 17?

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Re: Windows Tablets

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

I use my USB port on the Surface to plug in an external drive. I've had
mixed results with the USB hub I purchased a while back, as the device I
plugged in didn't function.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Jenna
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:34 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike and Jenna <schwaltze@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Hi,

I think he was wanting to know if there was a USB port so he could plug in a
DVD drive. You can have both connected to the surface however if you use a
USB hub.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

The Surface Pro has one USB port. No DVD drive, and I suspect most, if not
all the tablets won't have a DVD drive.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger,
Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Do these tablets have USB inputs for external hard drives, DVD drives, etc?
Thanks. Keith

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I have a Surface Pro and I'm very pleased with it. The prices have come
down since I purchased mine last year. You can find less expensive tablets,
but I believe at least for me, the additional cost is worth it. I initially
purchased a Dell tablet and had to return it. It was under $500 but didn't
function properly. I'm running Jaws 17 with Office 2013 and Windows 10 and
the only program that crashes on occasion is Internet Exploder, and that
will happen irregardless of what you buy or what operating system you run.

Les

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:15 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

From what I hear, the Surface Pro works very well. A few months ago, I
purchased a tablett size Asus model, with a laptop style keyboard as part of
the computer itself. I got it from Amazon for around 170 bucks. Doesn't
have a lot of hard drive space, but it is pretty fast. I purchased a Micro
SD card for initial storage purposes for around 15 dollars. The computer is
very light weight, and easy to travel with. If you use something like this,
I would recommend a drop box account, so you can put your files there, and
grab them when you get back home for your big computer.
One thing to keep in mind when searching for a Tablett. Make sure it is
running a full version of Windows, and not Windows RT. The RT systems won't
run JAWS. Good luck!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Windows Tablets

Hello, everyone.



I have a question that I hope will not be considered off topic for this
list.



I would like to purchase some sort of a Windows tablet to use when
traveling, and for when I don't want to drag my laptop computer around.



I am currently using Jaws 16, but plan to upgrade to Jaws 17 at some point,
probably in the next few months.



I assume that any windows-based tablet that I might get now will
automatically come with Windows 10 installed, which I'm ok with, since I'll
eventually need to upgrade my other computers to that operating system at
some point.



Can anyone give me recommendations and approximate costs of windows tablets
that would have sufficient resources to accommodate Jaws, and basic
Microsoft software such as Microsoft Office, Outlook e-mail, etc.?



At one point, I had considered moving to an IPad, but I am quite comfortable
with the Jaws to windows interface, so would prefer to stick with a Windows
tablet if at all possible.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Windows Tablets

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Debbie,

Jaws seems to be as responsive as it is on laptops I have run. Regarding
sound, it is fine. My only complaint would be that I'd like a little more
volume, but I also have a hearing loss now, so that likely contributes to
that issue.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Debbie April
Yuille via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

He

How responsive would you say jaws is? Is it as fast as on a laptop? Also
what's the sound of the Serfice Pro like?

Thanks
Debbie

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2015 4:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I have a Surface Pro and I'm very pleased with it. The prices have come
down since I purchased mine last year. You can find less expensive tablets,
but I believe at least for me, the additional cost is worth it. I initially
purchased a Dell tablet and had to return it. It was under $500 but didn't
function properly. I'm running Jaws 17 with Office 2013 and Windows 10 and
the only program that crashes on occasion is Internet Exploder, and that
will happen irregardless of what you buy or what operating system you run.

Les

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:15 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

From what I hear, the Surface Pro works very well. A few months ago, I
purchased a tablett size Asus model, with a laptop style keyboard as part of
the computer itself. I got it from Amazon for around 170 bucks. Doesn't
have a lot of hard drive space, but it is pretty fast. I purchased a Micro
SD card for initial storage purposes for around 15 dollars. The computer is
very light weight, and easy to travel with. If you use something like this,
I would recommend a drop box account, so you can put your files there, and
grab them when you get back home for your big computer.
One thing to keep in mind when searching for a Tablett. Make sure it is
running a full version of Windows, and not Windows RT. The RT systems won't
run JAWS. Good luck!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Windows Tablets

Hello, everyone.



I have a question that I hope will not be considered off topic for this
list.



I would like to purchase some sort of a Windows tablet to use when
traveling, and for when I don't want to drag my laptop computer around.



I am currently using Jaws 16, but plan to upgrade to Jaws 17 at some point,
probably in the next few months.



I assume that any windows-based tablet that I might get now will
automatically come with Windows 10 installed, which I'm ok with, since I'll
eventually need to upgrade my other computers to that operating system at
some point.



Can anyone give me recommendations and approximate costs of windows tablets
that would have sufficient resources to accommodate Jaws, and basic
Microsoft software such as Microsoft Office, Outlook e-mail, etc.?



At one point, I had considered moving to an IPad, but I am quite comfortable
with the Jaws to windows interface, so would prefer to stick with a Windows
tablet if at all possible.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Windows Tablets

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Hi Debbie,

I don't care to type on the keyboard cover, as the keys are too close
together for my taste. Having said that, however, it's handy to have in
case my Bluetooth keyboard doesn't function for some reason. As long as my
Bluetooth keyboard's battery hasn't died, or it doesn't connect via
Bluetooth, a rare occurrence, I use the Bluetooth keyboard exclusively. I
don't believe there is an applications key on the cover. I use Shift-F10
when I need a context menu.

Les

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Yuille via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:48 PM
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Cc: Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Hi Les

Do you find the cover that comes with the surface easy to type on? Also does
it come with an applications key?

Debbie

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Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I cannot speak to that, as I haven't attempted to disable it. I use the
Logitech k810 Bluetooth keyboard and the keyboard cover that was an optional
purchase with the Surface Pro. My hands rarely come in contact with the
touchpad, so I haven't had a need to try to disable this. If you call
Microsoft Accessibility at (800)936-5900, they should be able to ad vise you
on this matter.

Les

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Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

And, I have another question:

Is it easy to disable the touch pad on something like the Surface Pro?

I have a Dell laptop at work, and turning off the touch keypad was extremely
difficult. The IT people had to go into the bios, and take some other steps
to finally get it to happen.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Do these tablets have USB inputs for external hard drives, DVD drives, etc?
Thanks. Keith

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I have a Surface Pro and I'm very pleased with it. The prices have come
down since I purchased mine last year. You can find less expensive tablets,
but I believe at least for me, the additional cost is worth it. I initially
purchased a Dell tablet and had to return it. It was under $500 but didn't
function properly. I'm running Jaws 17 with Office 2013 and Windows 10 and
the only program that crashes on occasion is Internet Exploder, and that
will happen irregardless of what you buy or what operating system you run.

Les

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Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:15 AM
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Cc: Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

From what I hear, the Surface Pro works very well. A few months ago, I
purchased a tablett size Asus model, with a laptop style keyboard as part of
the computer itself. I got it from Amazon for around 170 bucks. Doesn't
have a lot of hard drive space, but it is pretty fast. I purchased a Micro
SD card for initial storage purposes for around 15 dollars. The computer is
very light weight, and easy to travel with. If you use something like this,
I would recommend a drop box account, so you can put your files there, and
grab them when you get back home for your big computer.
One thing to keep in mind when searching for a Tablett. Make sure it is
running a full version of Windows, and not Windows RT. The RT systems won't
run JAWS. Good luck!


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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:02 PM
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Subject: Windows Tablets

Hello, everyone.



I have a question that I hope will not be considered off topic for this
list.



I would like to purchase some sort of a Windows tablet to use when
traveling, and for when I don't want to drag my laptop computer around.



I am currently using Jaws 16, but plan to upgrade to Jaws 17 at some point,
probably in the next few months.



I assume that any windows-based tablet that I might get now will
automatically come with Windows 10 installed, which I'm ok with, since I'll
eventually need to upgrade my other computers to that operating system at
some point.



Can anyone give me recommendations and approximate costs of windows tablets
that would have sufficient resources to accommodate Jaws, and basic
Microsoft software such as Microsoft Office, Outlook e-mail, etc.?



At one point, I had considered moving to an IPad, but I am quite comfortable
with the Jaws to windows interface, so would prefer to stick with a Windows
tablet if at all possible.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Keith,

Since you can run separate versions of Jaws on your machine, there should be
no problem with upgrading to 17. You can always go back to 16 whenever you
wish. I like the new navigational tool on the web and navigating tables is
nice as you don't need to issue the layered commands any more to navigate
tables.

Les

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Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
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Subject: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

Hi,

I'm happily running JAWS 16 on my Windows 7 64-bit laptop, and using Office
2010.

Is there any reason NOT to upgrade to JAWS 17?

Thanks, Keith

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Re: Windows Tablets

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Ed, I agree that using a touch screen alone is not advisable. As long as
Bluetooth capability exists, a purchase of a Bluetooth keyboard will
eliminate this issue. By the way, I believe you use Dragon? I also use
Dragon with J-Say on my tablet. The only issue I had was that I had to
lower the screen resolution from its defaults, as my text wasn't being
echoed as I dictated until the resolution was lowered.

Les

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Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I would take special care before buying a tablet computer if you
are totally blind. Perhaps I should offer up a definition of a
tablet. By tablet, I'm referring to a computing device larger
than a phone that has a touch screen only, and no readily
available keyboard.
Computing devices that have auxiliary keyboards are excluded from
my definition. There is NO WAY someone, going by touch alone (and
no sight), can type as efficiently or as accurately on a touch
screen as one can on a device with a physical keyboard.
I know a little about touch screen devices. I've used an iPhone
for 6 years (from a 3s to a 6s), and although I love my phones, I
dictate. When I have to type something, it is a pain.
Similarly, I have an UltraBook (a Yoga IdeaPad), a device with
both a touch screen and a real keyboard, and I've had it for 4
years (since before JAWS had touch gestures).
I've used the touchscreen fewer than 3 times. Frustrated with
typing on the touch keyboard, I always revert to the Yoga's
built-in keyboard.
Perhaps it is just me, and I am exceptionally awkward, but I'm
just honestly sharing my experience.
So, if you are totally blind, when considering a tablet, make sure
to factor in the cost of a keyboard too.



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Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

Do these tablets have USB inputs for external hard drives, DVD
drives, etc? Thanks. Keith

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Kriegler via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

I have a Surface Pro and I'm very pleased with it. The prices
have come down since I purchased mine last year. You can find
less expensive tablets, but I believe at least for me, the
additional cost is worth it. I initially purchased a Dell tablet
and had to return it. It was under $500 but didn't function
properly. I'm running Jaws 17 with Office 2013 and Windows 10 and
the only program that crashes on occasion is Internet Explorer,
and that will happen regardless of what you buy or what operating
system you run.

Les

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Cc: Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Tablets

From what I hear, the Surface Pro works very well. A few months
ago, I purchased a tablet size Asus model, with a laptop style
keyboard as part of the computer itself. I got it from Amazon for
around 170 bucks. Doesn't have a lot of hard drive space, but it
is pretty fast. I purchased a Micro SD card for initial storage
purposes for around 15 dollars. The computer is very light
weight, and easy to travel with. If you use something like this,
I would recommend a drop box account, so you can put your files
there, and grab them when you get back home for your big computer.

One thing to keep in mind when searching for a Tablet. Make sure
it is running a full version of Windows, and not Windows RT. The
RT systems won't run JAWS. Good luck!


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Windows Tablets

Hello, everyone.



I have a question that I hope will not be considered off topic for
this list.



I would like to purchase some sort of a Windows tablet to use when
traveling, and for when I don't want to drag my laptop computer
around.



I am currently using Jaws 16, but plan to upgrade to Jaws 17 at
some point, probably in the next few months.



I assume that any windows-based tablet that I might get now will
automatically come with Windows 10 installed, which I'm ok with,
since I'll eventually need to upgrade my other computers to that
operating system at some point.



Can anyone give me recommendations and approximate costs of
windows tablets that would have sufficient resources to
accommodate Jaws, and basic Microsoft software such as Microsoft
Office, Outlook e-mail, etc.?



At one point, I had considered moving to an IPad, but I am quite
comfortable with the Jaws to windows interface, so would prefer to
stick with a Windows tablet if at all possible.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Google sheets and Jaws?

Ann Marie Medlar <amedlar1@...>
 

Hello all,
I have a spreadsheet created in googlesheets.
It is a link on a website. I cannot read it with Jaws.
Is there a way to open this link using Excel2013 Windows10 Jaws16?
Thanks,
Ann


Re: Windows Live Mail Auto complete

Lee Maschmeyer
 

I use Jaws with Braille and without speech. This means two things: First, I don't know what is spoken; second, I can see that auto complete works after I type (part of) a name and then press Tab, at least on my system. So you might try a SayLine after you tab and see whether Jaws just isn't saying what it should.

HTH,

--

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"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."
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Re: strange thing with windows upgrade

Kristoffer Gustafsson
 

Hi.
Ok, and when I've burned it. is it just to enter the serial on windows
7 I have on my laptop during installation?
If so it would be much easier to upgrade my computers.
/Kristoffer

2015-11-22 13:24 GMT+01:00, Debbie April Yuille via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>:

Hi Kristoffer

I believe Microsoft take a lot longer validating laptops than they do for
desktops. It has taken this long since I reserved my laptop for an upgrade
back in July for the update to say that is ready for me to get windows 10.
Yet, when I reserved my desktop for windows 10, I got a notification within
two months of my reservation.

If you really want to run windows 10 on your laptop and don't want to wait
for the update, try using the media creation tool and if you don't like
windows 10 or think that it doesn't run that well, you have a month to go
back provided you haven't deleted your windows.old folder.

HTH
Debbie
s

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Subject: strange thing with windows upgrade

Hi.
I've got some strange problem.
On a desktop I have it says that I can download windows 10, and on my
laptop I can not download at all. It says that I'll get an e-mail when
it is ready.
I've waited about a month for this. What can be wrong here?
/Kristoffer

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Re: strange thing with windows upgrade

Debbie April Yuille
 

Hi Kristoffer

I believe Microsoft take a lot longer validating laptops than they do for desktops. It has taken this long since I reserved my laptop for an upgrade back in July for the update to say that is ready for me to get windows 10. Yet, when I reserved my desktop for windows 10, I got a notification within two months of my reservation.

If you really want to run windows 10 on your laptop and don't want to wait for the update, try using the media creation tool and if you don't like windows 10 or think that it doesn't run that well, you have a month to go back provided you haven't deleted your windows.old folder.

HTH
Debbie
s

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Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2015 11:03 PM
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Cc: Kristoffer Gustafsson <kg.kristoffer@gmail.com>
Subject: strange thing with windows upgrade

Hi.
I've got some strange problem.
On a desktop I have it says that I can download windows 10, and on my
laptop I can not download at all. It says that I'll get an e-mail when
it is ready.
I've waited about a month for this. What can be wrong here?
/Kristoffer

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strange thing with windows upgrade

Kristoffer Gustafsson
 

Hi.
I've got some strange problem.
On a desktop I have it says that I can download windows 10, and on my
laptop I can not download at all. It says that I'll get an e-mail when
it is ready.
I've waited about a month for this. What can be wrong here?
/Kristoffer

--
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Salängsgatan 7a
tel:033-12 60 93
mobil: 0730-500934