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Re: Amazon issues

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

Well, unfortunately, I spoke too soon. I just tried logging in to my Amazon account, and had the same problem. This is not good!

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Amazon issues

On reading your post, which made me anxious, I went to Amazon and logged in with my username and password. I suspect Gerald may have the right answer. But as he says, Amazon should know better. And as you say, anyone who encounters this new obstacle should make their displeasure known to Amazon.

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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:20 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Sandra Streeter
Subject: Amazon issues

Hello, all:

For the first time, I am really miffed at Amazon. Has anyone visited recently? They have a new sign-in feature, which, of COURSE, involves captias with no audio equivalent! They give you a link for “having trouble or sight-impaired,” but the only thing there is options for contacting them, which I did, with an “assertive-gram”, which, if you’re experiencing this issue, you might want to follow up on with one of your own so they will listen to us, hopefully. I stated the situation is unacceptable, since many of us are Christmas shopping now, and requested that they immediately remedy things. If anyone has managed to get around the captia and still do check-out, please do email the list and let us know how you did it! Thanks!



Sandra
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Re: Another Facebook and JAWS question

Jim Portillo
 

Thank you. I appreciate your response. However, I'm curious how that relates to finding out the names of the people that like the particular page.

Sent from my iPhone 6!

On Nov 12, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Jim, if you can go into Settings on your professional Facebook and see if
you can get comments sent to your e-mail. I think that is what we did on
mine - it could be that it is called Account Settings.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Another Facebook and JAWS question

Hi there,



Let's see if I can explain my question so that it makes sense.



In addition to my personal facebook account, I have a public facebook
Page for my music band. Pages are a little different from the personal
accounts.

On this page, it says that I have 173 "likes." I'd like to know how I
can find out who has "liked" our page so far. There used to be a way a
while back, and although it was a bit challenging to get to, I found a
way.
However, I can no longer remember what that was and would like to know if
anyone on this list can help me.

I'm using the JAWS 16 or 17 versions (depending on the computer) with
Facebook and am happy to use either the mobile or the full version.



Thanks again for any help!

Jim



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Re: Amazon issues

Adrian Spratt
 

On reading your post, which made me anxious, I went to Amazon and logged in with my username and password. I suspect Gerald may have the right answer. But as he says, Amazon should know better. And as you say, anyone who encounters this new obstacle should make their displeasure known to Amazon.

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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:20 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Sandra Streeter
Subject: Amazon issues

Hello, all:

For the first time, I am really miffed at Amazon. Has anyone visited recently? They have a new sign-in feature, which, of COURSE, involves captias with no audio equivalent! They give you a link for “having trouble or sight-impaired,” but the only thing there is options for contacting them, which I did, with an “assertive-gram”, which, if you’re experiencing this issue, you might want to follow up on with one of your own so they will listen to us, hopefully. I stated the situation is unacceptable, since many of us are Christmas shopping now, and requested that they immediately remedy things. If anyone has managed to get around the captia and still do check-out, please do email the list and let us know how you did it! Thanks!



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Re: Another Facebook and JAWS question

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Jim, if you can go into Settings on your professional Facebook and see if
you can get comments sent to your e-mail. I think that is what we did on
mine - it could be that it is called Account Settings.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Portillo via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Another Facebook and JAWS question

Hi there,



Let's see if I can explain my question so that it makes sense.



In addition to my personal facebook account, I have a public facebook
Page for my music band. Pages are a little different from the personal
accounts.

On this page, it says that I have 173 "likes." I'd like to know how I
can find out who has "liked" our page so far. There used to be a way a
while back, and although it was a bit challenging to get to, I found a
way.
However, I can no longer remember what that was and would like to know if
anyone on this list can help me.

I'm using the JAWS 16 or 17 versions (depending on the computer) with
Facebook and am happy to use either the mobile or the full version.



Thanks again for any help!

Jim



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Re: Amazon issues

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I ordered something from Amazon a few weeks ago, and did not encounter this issue.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 12, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Drew Hunthausen via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

This must be withine the last week or so as I ordered several things last week with no problems signing in. I hope they do something soon if this is how it is from now on.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:20 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Sandra Streeter
Subject: Amazon issues

Hello, all:

For the first time, I am really miffed at Amazon. Has anyone visited recently? They have a new sign-in feature, which, of COURSE, involves captias with no audio equivalent! They give you a link for “having trouble or sight-impaired,” but the only thing there is options for contacting them, which I did, with an “assertive-gram”, which, if you’re experiencing this issue, you might want to follow up on with one of your own so they will listen to us, hopefully. I stated the situation is unacceptable, since many of us are Christmas shopping now, and requested that they immediately remedy things. If anyone has managed to get around the captia and still do check-out, please do email the list and let us know how you did it! Thanks!



Sandra
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Another Facebook and JAWS question

Jim Portillo
 

Hi there,



Let's see if I can explain my question so that it makes sense.



In addition to my personal facebook account, I have a public facebook Page
for my music band. Pages are a little different from the personal accounts.

On this page, it says that I have 173 "likes." I'd like to know how I can
find out who has "liked" our page so far. There used to be a way a while
back, and although it was a bit challenging to get to, I found a way.
However, I can no longer remember what that was and would like to know if
anyone on this list can help me.

I'm using the JAWS 16 or 17 versions (depending on the computer) with
Facebook and am happy to use either the mobile or the full version.



Thanks again for any help!

Jim



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Re: Key mapping question.

Brent Harding
 

I've used Sharp Keys. It works pretty good. I had to remap broken keys to unused ones that work. The only problem gets to be getting used to the broken layout too much when it doesn't exist elsewhere.

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Cc: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Key mapping question.


I use a tool called SharpKeys for that, it is available at
https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/

On 11/12/15, Michael Mote via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Good afternoon folks! I pose this question to the list because I know
they're a lot of smart folks on here who may be able to give me some
advice.
I have a new keyboard that does not have an applications key on it. I
would
like to map one of my keys on the spacebar row to serve as the apps key.
Does anyone know how I can do this? For now, I'm using shift plus F10 to
do
this, but it would be a lot easier to just have an apps key. Many thanks
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Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

What is being talked about is that when you are playing a file on the NLS Player, it must reside in a folder called audio+podcasts if there are any other talking books on the flash drive. In addition, there should not be any other files in this audio+podcasts folder besides mp3 files.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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To: "'Gerald Levy '" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: A tutorial on Google Chrome.


Gerald:

What if you are not using a "flash drive"! I had saved that MP3 tutorial in
a folder with other JAWS-related items.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.


Because the tutorial is an MP3 file, you must save it in the Audio+Podcasts
folder on your flash drive, just like any other MP3 file. If your flash
drive does not already have a folder labled Audio+Podcasts, you need to
create one.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Holdeman via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Stan Holdeman
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

How did you do that? I copied the tutorial to a drive where I have other NLS
books, but my player did not find the tutorial file .

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.


I had no problem downloading this tutorial and listening to it on my NLS
Digital Talking Book player.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Holdeman via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Stan Holdeman
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

When I try to run the tutorial Media Player gives me an error message and is
not able to run the tutorial.

Is this just me, or are others experiencing the problem?

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:34 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Moore
Subject: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

Hi all,
Here is the tutorial on Google Chrome Browser that I have promised you. It
is a Audio MP3 file that will play on about anything. I go over how to save
files, and use Surfs Up to demonstrate everything you need to know about
using different combo boxes and all you need to know when using a browser. I
hope you enjoy it. It is an hour long. The link below is a drop box link. I
fixed my drop box, so this link should work fine. Enter on the link and a
page will open up. Go to almost to the bottom of the page and enter on the
download link. You can save it to your computer. I hope you can get even
more out of Google Chrome. Here is the link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni7ydojdlehiqsc/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
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Re: Amazon issues

Gerald Levy
 

I placed an order with Amazon two days ago and did not encounter any image captcha. If you have not logged into Amazon in a long time, it is possible that they present the captcha for security purposes and treat you like a first-time shopper. But as long as you shop regularly on the site as I do, you should not encounter a captcha again after this initial log-in. Still, blind consumers should not have to deal with an image captcha under any circumstances on the site of the world's largest online merchant, and perhaps you should contact the NFB, which loves to sue companies whose web sites are not blind-friendly.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra Streeter via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Sandra Streeter
Subject: Amazon issues

Hello, all:

For the first time, I am really miffed at Amazon. Has anyone visited recently? They have a new sign-in feature, which, of COURSE, involves captias with no audio equivalent! They give you a link for “having trouble or sight-impaired,” but the only thing there is options for contacting them, which I did, with an “assertive-gram”, which, if you’re experiencing this issue, you might want to follow up on with one of your own so they will listen to us, hopefully. I stated the situation is unacceptable, since many of us are Christmas shopping now, and requested that they immediately remedy things. If anyone has managed to get around the captia and still do check-out, please do email the list and let us know how you did it! Thanks!



Sandra
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Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

David Moore
 

Hi all,
If you go directly to the folder, open it and locate the file and enter on the file, it does not matter if there are different kinds of files in the folder. For example, my downloads folder has text files, Word files, and MP3 files. If I get into my downloads folder and find a MP3 file and enter on it, it will open in my default music player. It doesn't matter if different files are in the folder with the MP3 file. I hope this clears up things. Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 4:55 PM
To: 'Maria Campbell' ; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

Does that mean that MP3 files can not be saved in folders with other kinds
of files?

If that were true, I could not listen to this one from the place where I
saved, and I can!

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1@ct.metrocast.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

You need to put this tutorial in a folder with MP3's, not with NLS books.


On 11/12/2015 12:08 PM, Stan Holdeman via Jfw wrote:
How did you do that? I copied the tutorial to a drive where I have other
NLS books, but my player did not find the tutorial file .

Stan


-----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.


I had no problem downloading this tutorial and listening to it on my NLS
Digital Talking Book player.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Stan Holdeman via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Stan Holdeman
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

When I try to run the tutorial Media Player gives me an error message
and is
not able to run the tutorial.

Is this just me, or are others experiencing the problem?

Stan


-----Original Message----- From: David Moore via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:34 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Moore
Subject: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

Hi all,
Here is the tutorial on Google Chrome Browser that I have promised you. It
is a Audio MP3 file that will play on about anything. I go over how to
save
files, and use Surfs Up to demonstrate everything you need to know about
using different combo boxes and all you need to know when using a
browser. I
hope you enjoy it. It is an hour long. The link below is a drop box link.
I
fixed my drop box, so this link should work fine. Enter on the link and a
page will open up. Go to almost to the bottom of the page and enter on the
download link. You can save it to your computer. I hope you can get even
more out of Google Chrome. Here is the link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni7ydojdlehiqsc/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
p3?dl=0

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Re: Amazon issues

Drew Hunthausen
 

This must be withine the last week or so as I ordered several things last week with no problems signing in. I hope they do something soon if this is how it is from now on.

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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:20 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Sandra Streeter
Subject: Amazon issues

Hello, all:

For the first time, I am really miffed at Amazon. Has anyone visited recently? They have a new sign-in feature, which, of COURSE, involves captias with no audio equivalent! They give you a link for “having trouble or sight-impaired,” but the only thing there is options for contacting them, which I did, with an “assertive-gram”, which, if you’re experiencing this issue, you might want to follow up on with one of your own so they will listen to us, hopefully. I stated the situation is unacceptable, since many of us are Christmas shopping now, and requested that they immediately remedy things. If anyone has managed to get around the captia and still do check-out, please do email the list and let us know how you did it! Thanks!



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Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

HAMILTON
 

Tom:

For you, it may not be a "show stopper". However, for some of us, it would
appear to be. We can not all be technical wizzes! And, such screen-reading
programmes should work for "everyone", technically inclined or not!

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Bissett, Tom [mailto:tom.bissett@bmo.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

If you recall we had the same situation going from jaws 12 to jaws 13.
Because of the number and type of changes a merge was not possible. We are
seeing the same situation again. I am sure FS will have a merge moving from
17 to 18.
I realize it is an inconvenience but really! Itss not a show stopper.
Tom Bisset
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of judith bron
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: judith bron
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

When Freedom scientific first began way back when their mission statement
was to provide a program to the blind and visually impaired world that would
allow them to work the computer using keystrokes rather than a mouse. We've
come a long way since then but it seems that part of the mission statement
has been lost in the mire. Business has to keep progressing but losing
sight of your mission eventually reduces all the economic progress. There
are other screen readers. I hope FS doesn't wake up one day to hear that
their popularity and standing in the blind community has been replaced by
another company.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:50 PM
To: 'Pablo Morales'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Pablo :

Sorry, I had replied to this in the incorrect manner; so, I am resending my
reply to your message below.

****************

Anyone wishing to complain about "no Merge Utility in JAWS 17" should send
their concerns to:

suggestions@freedomscientific.com

This was the advice, from JAWS Technical Support, that I got in response to
my sending my concerns to them. So, I took the technical support person at
his word, and sent my concerns accordingly. So far though, there has been
no reply from FS!

However, the more people who do share their concerns in this way, the more
likely that FS will do something - constructive! So, come on people, strike
a blow for those who need/want to keep access to their JAWS settings on
their PCs!

Thank you.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Morales [mailto:pablocmd2014@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 2:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Writing to where?
I need merge utility, I can't not be ,re writing all commands or
configurations every time, it is time consuming.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 1:23 PM
To: 'Tom Behler'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Dr. Tom Behler:

Thanks. Did you follow up by writing to the "suggestions" link in the body
of that generic response? I think that this is where the power-to-change
exists within FS.

"Power to the people!"

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 4:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Jim and all:

I sent my letter of discontent in early this morning, and got the generic
response.

Hopefully others will do the same.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 3:37 PM
To: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Well, I must say that it is most gratifying to see that lots of other JAWS
users are upset with losing the Merge Utility! I hate to be the only one
screaming in the wilderness. I have already used the below link to
complain, and received the typical FS reply that someone would be in touch.
I agree that the more people who let FS know about their feelings on this,
and any other, matter, makes a lot of sense. It is the noisy wheel that
gets greased! Let's keep those cards and letters coming in!

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu]
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:31 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

What's the traffic volume like on the JAWS-Users group?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B
Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi Adrian,

Believe me, I would like to rollover & stick at least 1 of my 4 legs up 1 of
someone's ass at Freedom Scientific but, it seems like, most of the time
anyways, they don't give a rats ass about what we the consumer think & go on
their merry way! I do agree that if people complained in more volume it
might make more of an impact but, if these complaints fall upon deaf ears,
so to speak, complaining won't change anything either, just as it hasn't
changed crap like this in, forever, with FS. I can tell you 1 way of making
1 of the most important people within Fs, Eric Damry, aware of how you feel,
& that is to join another email list, Jaws-Users. Eric Damry is a member of
this list & is a somewhat frequent poster depending on the topic, to the
list. Here is the necessary link to join if interested.

To join:

jaws-users-list-join@jaws-users.com

Click on the link above, put subscribe in the subject line, leave the
message body empty, & send. You'll receive a confirmation email, reply to
it & you should be good to go.

It's not a real high traffic list.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained


Mike,

Understood. The temptation to roll over and stick my four legs up in the air

is sometimes strong, but over time I've found that persistence and volume
can prevail. By persistence, I mean one person demanding a fix. By volume, I

mean the more of us who complain, the more pressure FS will be under to fix
it and ensure this kind of fiasco doesn't recur.

I do recall many versions ago that the merge utility cause havoc from one
version to the next. The people at FS remember that event. I also know that
persistence doesn't always work. I've had my own frustrations with FS over
time.

But the merge utility was basic to the transition from version to version,
and most of us JAWS users depended on it. It's bad enough that we must pay
for a SMA every two versions, which FS has ensured means every two years,
but now to go through such inconvenience as well?

As for the lister who proposed a petition, let him produce one. Otherwise,
it's simple enough to write to FS and let our voices be heard. Again, the
address is

support@freedomscientific.com

I admit I don't like being a rabble-rouser, but this really is annoying.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B
Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi Adrian,

I agree with you &, I don't find it acceptable either but, what else are we
supposed to do? We can bitch until the cows come home & it won't change the
fact, that Freedom Scientific already knows, they are not keeping up with
their own products. I've complained about various screw-ups for many years,
& when you send them a complaint you only get back an automated kiss ass
email stating how they're working to resolve the problem. It seems to me
that they have a need to stay on some kind of schedule, & that schedule is
to put out a new version of Jaws around November of each year whether it's
ready for consumer consumption or not!
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:46 PM
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained


Sorry, Mike, but I don't find this statement acceptable. Ease of transition
from version to version is important. FS should have anticipated this
concern and figured out a solution before it became our problem. As I
believe it was Aidan who pointed out, it isn't as if the new features in
JAWS 17 are exactly compelling. There are potential problems involved in
skipping a version, so I still plan to install JAWS 17 one of these days.
Once again, I encourage anyone who feels as I do to contact FS Tech Support
at

support@freedomscientific.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 9:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B
Subject: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi All,

There's no need to craft a petition or anything else. Below tells about the
Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now anyways. This comes
from What's new in Jaws 17.

Merge Utility No Longer Available

Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process. This
included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these changes,
the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as settings from prior
versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution for the future which
will replace this utility and provide an even greater benefit for our
customers.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if someone on
the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding this issue, we might
be able to get enough signitures to make an impact.

Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.

I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.

I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college teaching
semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at this point,
and I sure would like to have the use of the merge utilities feature again.
I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience and ease
of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years? Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

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Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

HAMILTON
 

Gerald:

What if you are not using a "flash drive"! I had saved that MP3 tutorial in
a folder with other JAWS-related items.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.


Because the tutorial is an MP3 file, you must save it in the Audio+Podcasts
folder on your flash drive, just like any other MP3 file. If your flash
drive does not already have a folder labled Audio+Podcasts, you need to
create one.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Holdeman via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Stan Holdeman
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

How did you do that? I copied the tutorial to a drive where I have other NLS
books, but my player did not find the tutorial file .

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.


I had no problem downloading this tutorial and listening to it on my NLS
Digital Talking Book player.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Holdeman via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Stan Holdeman
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

When I try to run the tutorial Media Player gives me an error message and is
not able to run the tutorial.

Is this just me, or are others experiencing the problem?

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:34 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Moore
Subject: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

Hi all,
Here is the tutorial on Google Chrome Browser that I have promised you. It
is a Audio MP3 file that will play on about anything. I go over how to save
files, and use Surfs Up to demonstrate everything you need to know about
using different combo boxes and all you need to know when using a browser. I
hope you enjoy it. It is an hour long. The link below is a drop box link. I
fixed my drop box, so this link should work fine. Enter on the link and a
page will open up. Go to almost to the bottom of the page and enter on the
download link. You can save it to your computer. I hope you can get even
more out of Google Chrome. Here is the link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni7ydojdlehiqsc/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
p3?dl=0
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Re: Key mapping question.

Bobb Wiley <rwiley46@...>
 

Wow, sharp keys looks really neat.

I use a utility called autohotkey to accomplish the same sort of thing.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Soronel Haetir
Subject: Re: Key mapping question.

I use a tool called SharpKeys for that, it is available at
https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/

On 11/12/15, Michael Mote via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Good afternoon folks! I pose this question to the list because I know
they're a lot of smart folks on here who may be able to give me some
advice.
I have a new keyboard that does not have an applications key on it. I
would
like to map one of my keys on the spacebar row to serve as the apps key.
Does anyone know how I can do this? For now, I'm using shift plus F10 to
do
this, but it would be a lot easier to just have an apps key. Many thanks
for any help!









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Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

HAMILTON
 

Does that mean that MP3 files can not be saved in folders with other kinds
of files?

If that were true, I could not listen to this one from the place where I
saved, and I can!

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1@ct.metrocast.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

You need to put this tutorial in a folder with MP3's, not with NLS books.


On 11/12/2015 12:08 PM, Stan Holdeman via Jfw wrote:
How did you do that? I copied the tutorial to a drive where I have other
NLS books, but my player did not find the tutorial file .

Stan


-----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.


I had no problem downloading this tutorial and listening to it on my NLS
Digital Talking Book player.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Stan Holdeman via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Stan Holdeman
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

When I try to run the tutorial Media Player gives me an error message
and is
not able to run the tutorial.

Is this just me, or are others experiencing the problem?

Stan


-----Original Message----- From: David Moore via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:34 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Moore
Subject: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

Hi all,
Here is the tutorial on Google Chrome Browser that I have promised you. It
is a Audio MP3 file that will play on about anything. I go over how to
save
files, and use Surfs Up to demonstrate everything you need to know about
using different combo boxes and all you need to know when using a
browser. I
hope you enjoy it. It is an hour long. The link below is a drop box link.
I
fixed my drop box, so this link should work fine. Enter on the link and a
page will open up. Go to almost to the bottom of the page and enter on the
download link. You can save it to your computer. I hope you can get even
more out of Google Chrome. Here is the link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni7ydojdlehiqsc/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
p3?dl=0

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Re: speaking "cell" in internet explorer tables

HAMILTON
 

How does one turn off "smart navigation" for specific sites? I thought that
you could just turn it on or off - not application specific.

Always ready to learn...

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Londa Peterson [mailto:lpeterson@vrocp.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: speaking "cell" in internet explorer tables

Turn off smart navigation for that site.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Corner
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Barbara Corner
Subject: speaking "cell" in internet explorer tables

I just upgraded to JAWS 17 and am having issues with how JAWS handles tables
in internet explorer.

I have two websites which are made up of tables, one is for our email and
JAWS used to put the name of the sender, the subject , the date etc on
separate lines so I could read it easily and click on the button to open it.
Now JFW 17 puts it all on one line and says "cell" "cell" which is pretty
annoying. Any hints for this?
Thanks!

Bar



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How to register a complaint about no Merge Utility in JAWS 17

Tim Ford
 

I changed the subject line only. Please try to avoid using a subject line that refers only to "RE: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 16"!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:44 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 16

Anyone wishing to complain about "no Merge Utility in JAWS 17" should send
their concerns to:

suggestions@freedomscientific.com

This was the advice, from JAWS Technical Support, that I got in response to
my sending my concerns to them. So, I took the technical support person at
his word, and sent my concerns accordingly. So far though, there has been
no reply from FS!

However, the more people who do share their concerns in this way, the more
likely that FS will do something - constructive! So, come on people, strike
a blow for those who need/want to keep access to their JAWS settings on
their PCs!

Thank you.

Jim H


Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

HAMILTON
 

And, I used Windows Media Player to listen to this MP3.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobb Wiley [mailto:rwiley46@twc.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

I had no problem listening to it. I used winamp.

I must say that it was a good introduction to chrome. Thanks for posting it
David.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: joseph weakland via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: joseph weakland
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

it worked for me when i hit enter after saving file first:) using pc to play
it:)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: A tutorial on Google Chrome.


Same here.
At 07:45 AM 11/12/2015, you wrote:
When I try to run the tutorial Media Player gives me an error message and
is not able to run the tutorial.

Is this just me, or are others experiencing the problem?

Stan


-----Original Message----- From: David Moore via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:34 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Moore
Subject: A tutorial on Google Chrome.

Hi all,
Here is the tutorial on Google Chrome Browser that I have promised you. It
is a Audio MP3 file that will play on about anything. I go over how to
save files, and use Surfs Up to demonstrate everything you need to know
about using different combo boxes and all you need to know when using a
browser. I hope you enjoy it. It is an hour long. The link below is a drop
box link. I fixed my drop box, so this link should work fine. Enter on the
link and a page will open up. Go to almost to the bottom of the page and
enter on the download link. You can save it to your computer. I hope you
can get even more out of Google Chrome. Here is the link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni7ydojdlehiqsc/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome
.mp3?dl=0
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What is your preferred way of scanning a printed page and sending it as an
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Re: Merge Utility - GONE!!!!!!

Soronel Haetir
 

Given that whatever they are talking about is a year away I would say
wait and see what they are actually talking about before getting
worked up about it.

On 11/12/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Ted:

In my view, "acceptable" is not good enough. There really SHOULD be an
alternative for those who do not want to/cannot use the cloud!

If users would pressure FS on this point, I believe that it will happen;
but, they will have to do so ASAP. FS does have a history of responding to
users' concerns. So, let's see if FS still takes their customers, and
their
customer service seriously!

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 11:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Merge Utility - GONE!!!!!!

If it comes to requiring, I'd agree, Jim. Having it as an alternative for
those who desire it would be acceptable though.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 12:29 PM
To: 'Aidan'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: Merge Utility - GONE!!!!!!

To be honest, I have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in storing ANYTHING in "any
cloud". The security risks outway any other factor in my decision! So, if
JAWS 17 will "require" the use of "cloud storage", I will NOT use JAWS 17!

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Aidan [mailto:aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 4:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Merge Utility - GONE!!!!!!

Jim I agree. Really, unless if they will at least allow the cloud of your
choice? Then I can safe to dropbox or google drive, that will make more
sense, but even then, really their priorities stinks.

On 05/11/2015, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:
Give me a break; that's why The Good Lord invented hard drives.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 6:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Merge Utility - GONE!!!!!!

I heard that yes, the only thing is that it should've been ready by
now. But sound intresting.

On 05/11/2015, David Moore via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
When I was listening to the latest webinar about JAWS 17, Dan Clark
said something about that that they were replacing the merge utility
with something that would allow people to save all settings in the
cloud. So, I am not sure what they are thinking about, but it will be
totally different than the merge utility.


-----Original Message-----
From: Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Merge Utility - GONE!!!!!!

Jim. Know one noes when they will bring an replacement tool back. I
suspect probibly in version 18. Because they only say they working on
something more improved for customers. I don't know what that means,
but they of the rode.

On 05/11/2015, Jim Hamilton via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
There seems to be a storm brewing regarding the fact that the Merge
Utility is not part of JAWS V: 17. Why was this problem not worked
out before JAWS
17 was released? Clearly, FS knew that previous version settings
could not be "merged" as in previous versions; so, FS should have
fixed it before it became a problem!

Can you tell us in which very early-on JAWS Version: 17 update will
this fix appear? At this time, I am planning to wait until the "fix
is in" before upgrading to Version: 17. Of course, this will mean
waiting to install Windows 10; but, it cannot be helped!

Jim H


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