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Re: Crome?

David Moore
 

Hi Carlos,
It sounds like you need a home page for Chrome to open up to. Here is what you do. When you hear JAWS Say Chrome, press the alt key. now, arrow down through the chrom menu. When you hear settings, press enter on that. Now, A web page will come up where you can adjust all of your settings in Chrome. Enter on the settings tab. Now, arrow down until you hear three radio buttons. Make sure that the third one is checked. Arrow down one more time and it will say to select pages. Press enter on that and you can type the URL of any page you want Chrome to open up to when you open it. This will be your home page. I hope that helps and let me know how that works. Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas C. DeCamp via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 9:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Douglas C. DeCamp
Subject: RE: Crome?

Carlos,
Not sure about your first situation, but on the one that just says chrome
you might try the F6 key to locate the search & address bar to type in a web
address.
Like IE F6 should move you thru the various parts of the Chrome screen.
-- hth ---
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carliss via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 4:31 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carliss
Subject: Crome?

Listers,

Need a little help here. I downloaded and installed Crome on two computers.
One of them when I open Crome I go back to where I was, on the other one
when I open Crome, I don't know where I am. Jaws just says "Crome" . Now I
know that all of this is very new but does anyone have an idea of how to
help? If so, I would greatly appreciat it a whole lot!!!

You know, I've been wanting to use google crome for a very long time.

Take care all of you.





Carliss

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Re: JAWS and speech input?

Londa Peterson
 

If all you want to do is dictate text, you could use JDictate. It's also
from Brian Hartgen. My understanding is that it can work with less expensive
versions of Dragon as well.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:50 AM
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Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: JAWS and speech input?

Ann, you can use Dragon with Jaws, but it's my understanding that you won't
receive automatic speech feedback unless you use J-Say with Dragon.

Les

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Subject: JAWS and speech input?

Is anyone using JAWS with a speech input program such as Dragon
dictate. is it still necessary to use J-say with Jaws and Dragon?


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Re: Crome?

Douglas C. DeCamp
 

Carlos,
Not sure about your first situation, but on the one that just says chrome
you might try the F6 key to locate the search & address bar to type in a web
address.
Like IE F6 should move you thru the various parts of the Chrome screen.
-- hth ---

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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 4:31 AM
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Cc: Carliss
Subject: Crome?

Listers,

Need a little help here. I downloaded and installed Crome on two computers.
One of them when I open Crome I go back to where I was, on the other one
when I open Crome, I don't know where I am. Jaws just says "Crome" . Now I
know that all of this is very new but does anyone have an idea of how to
help? If so, I would greatly appreciat it a whole lot!!!

You know, I've been wanting to use google crome for a very long time.

Take care all of you.





Carliss

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Re: Assertion that "Chrome is not ready for prime time!"

Londa Peterson
 

Thanks. That's good info.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Moore
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:34 PM
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Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: Assertion that "Chrome is not ready for prime time!"

Hi Londa,
Yes I have. It works very well in IE and Firefox, but with Chrome, it is
much better for some reason to have forms mode switched to manual. I tried
Chrome with semi forms mode, and for some reason, the search edit box is not

always there. With manual forms mode on, the search edit box is always right

there and when you press enter to go into forms mode, you can edit what you
put in the search box. Take care.


-----Original Message-----
From: Londa Peterson via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Londa Peterson
Subject: RE: Assertion that "Chrome is not ready for prime time!"

Hi David,
Have you tried the new semi-auto forms mode yet?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Moore
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 2:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: Assertion that "Chrome is not ready for prime time!"

Hi,
Chrome has changed a great deal in the past two years. It is a different
experience totally using it now compared to even a year ago. I will have my
tutorial ready this week after I look at many different web pages and work
with it in many situations. I can tell you that all the navigation html
commands in JAWS work in chrome. Navigating a web page is very similar to
working in IE or Firefox. One thing I have found out is that Chrome works
much much better if forms mode is set to manual. If forms mode is set to
automatic, JAWS keeps going into forms mode on Chrome. You can set this
temporarily in Chrome, and change it back. Take care and I will have much
more for you this week.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:36 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: RE: Assertion that "Chrome is not ready for prime time!"

I had a terrible experience with Chrome a few years back, and have been
hesitant to try again, but probably will once I review and thoroughly
understand David Moore's podcast when it becomes available.

I certainly hope FS will take Chrome on to improve its workability with
Chrome.

Does anyone have a sense of what Google's commitment to accessibility is?
I've been under the impression it's casual at best.

Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Moore
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 12:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: Assertion that "Chrome is not ready for prime time!"

Hi Dennis,
I am the original person who said that Google Chrome is totally accessible.
My name is David Moore. Well, I didn't litterly mean totally accessible, and

I was very excited after working with Chrome after two days. I got carried
away. When I saw just how much more accessible Chrome has become in the last

two years, I wondered why the blind think that it is still totally
inaccessible. A lot of Chrome is accessible, much more than the blind
realize. Dennis, It is because of what you said that I have mentioned Chrome

on so many lists, and I am encouraging the blind to try it to see for
themselves just how far its accessibility has come. It still needs work, I
know. But I am asking the same question. Why is Freedom Scientific not
putting as much work into making Chrome accessible since it is by far the
most used browser in colleges and employment. It makes me wonder and I want
the blind to think about this question. I will keep quiet and just leave it
right there. By the way, Chrome is just as accessible with NVDA as it is
with JAWS. Also, the more tools you have the better off people are. Google
Chrome may not be to the point yet to make it your default browser, but it
is a good third browser to use. It is good to have two or three screen
readers as well. When it comes to streaming TV channels and so on, Chrome
beats IE and Firefox hands down. It never crashes once on me. I use Chrome
more than IE, because IE crashes almost every time I stream video with it.
It will not even open a large web site. Chrome opens large sites twice as
fast as IE. Many web sites are accessible with Chrome. I am glad people are
realizing it. If I caused a few people to try Chrome, I have done my job
which is to help all and bring what is hidden into the light. I am
contacting Freedom Scientific on Monday and asking a lot of questions about
making Chrome totally accessible and why it hasn't been done already. I urge

all of you to do the same. Enjoy Chrome for what it can do, not for what it
can not do. Take care all, and thank you Dennis for saying what you did.


-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 7:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Pat Byrne
Subject: Re: Assertion that "Chrome is not ready for prime time!"

Dennis,
Very well said.
Pat ByrneAt 06:33 PM 11/7/2015, you wrote:
Hello Gerald and others,
At Harvard and I think Stanford, Google Chrome is used in the
programming classes for web development, so they apparently do not
share Eric Damery's opinion as presented in the email post. I would be
curious to know how recently Eric made that statement. Chrome, at least
for sighted programmers is a very important program because it can
process the HTML source code from a webpage and present it in a very
"human readable" form, as opposed to simply displaying the source code
directly in its raw form. As David Malan who teaches CS50 and other web
programming courses at Harvard explains in the first class, IE and Firefox
do not provide this capability.
He doesn't care what browsers students choose to use, he simply
explains that it will be much more difficult if one does not use Chrome
to do internet programming, because of its built-in tools.

Perhaps Eric meant that Chrome is not ready for prime time for blind
people using screen readers. If so, this is obviously very bad news for
blind programmers taking CS courses at Harvard and Stanford, since
their performance will be measured against sighted students in their
classes who are using Chrome, and the blind student's productivity will
be seriously diminished and their ability to complete their assignments
on time made almost impossible without Chrome.

Likewise, if employers are using Chrome for the same reason as David
Malan, and blind programmers can't use it, they are not going to be
hired. This isn't discrimination. The employer would be correct in
concluding that the blind programmer cannot do the job as quickly and
efficiently as a sighted programmer, so to hire the blind programmer
would mean the employer is paying the same money for less software output.

I had not looked at Chrome for almost 2 years since I tried to use it
in a programming course, and at that time I found it virtually
inaccessible using Jaws. When I downloaded it again 2 days ago after
reading an earlier email stating that it is now "totally accessible," I
was very pleased and surprised at the current level of Chrome's
accessibility. Prior to this, I believed their was something about the
way Chrome was programmed that made it inherently incompatible with
screen readers, but this is clearly not the case.

If Eric actually believes "Chrome isn't ready for prime time", then
this would explain and justify an anemic effort by Freedom Scientific
to support Chrome, since no company would spend development capital to
support a product which it believes is never going to take hold, or
won't mature for a substantial time.

But corporate decision making and assignment of priorities most times
falls somewhere between mysterious and inexplicable, and is too often
motivated by attempts to gain market advantage, or based on hidden
corporate alliances. Who can know? It has become a common practice for
salesmen to disparage products they don't sell or can't support, as
well as disparaging their own older products when they are now trying to
sell their new ones.

I hope Jaws users will download Chrome, try to systematically find its
deficiencies with Jaws, and send this information to Freedom Scientific
so that Chrome can be made as close to 100 percent accessible as is
possible using a screen reader. for us as blind people, software like
Chrome is a matter of employment instead of unemployment. When I
obtained my MS in computer science in 1984, virtually all computer jobs
were available to me, because all programming environments were 100
percent accessible to me using my Braille computer terminal and an Optacon
to fill in the gaps.

Today, so much software is inaccessible at a level necessary for
employment, that it has become increasingly difficult for us to find
and keep jobs of any sort, because most jobs involve using a computer.
And as many on this list know through personal experience, that which
is accessible today, can easily become inaccessible tomorrow simply
because a vendor chooses to release a software upgrade, with
unemployment being the result. When the blind employee can no longer
perform his job, what is the employer's alternative? The employer is
powerless to fix the problem, since they don't write the application
software or the screen reader programs.
Even if the employer doesn't wish to upgrade because of the effect it
will have on the blind employee, a small employer will ultimately have
no choice because the software vendor will stop support for the old
product to force the business to buy the new product.

I think it is critical that we as customers let Freedom Scientific know
what products we need to be made accessible, otherwise they can only guess.
This isn't their fault. By definition, they work for a small software
company, so the jobs they see and experience are in that environment,
and their priorities are established from that vantage point. If your a
blind lawyer and you cannot get or keep a job at a mega law firm
because the new law firm billing software is not accessible, this is
something FS won't experience and won't know about. Likewise, if you're
a financial advisor and you cannot get or keep a job at a Wall Street
firm or mega bank, FS will not know what job critical software must be
made accessible unless they are told. These are examples of the places
where jobs are located, and we cannot get and keep those jobs if we are
unable to use the software on which the jobs are based. Last time I
checked into this, most of the corporate networks for these large firms
are still running Windows XP, very old versions of MS Office, and the
inaccessible applications they are running are not Microsoft products.
I would be curious to know how much money and effort FS has spent on IE
11 accessibility as opposed to Google Chrome.

Just my 2 cents worth, but accounting for inflation may be worth 4
cents, though probably not quite that much.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy via Jfw"
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: Chrome and bookmarks/favorites



Which explains why Eric Damery still advises JAWS users to avoid Chrome.
As far as he is concerned, Chrome is still not ready yet for prime time.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 10:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Chrome and bookmarks/favorites

Hi.

I can't get favorites, which Chrome calls bookmarks, to work as
quickly as they do in IE. Here's what I've figured out so far. I hope
the gaps can be filled in.

You get to bookmarks by pressing alt for the menu, then arrowing down.
Press enter on bookmarks. Here, I'm told that the shortcut
control-shift-b brings up bookmarks, but that shortcut isn't working
on my system when I'm outside this menu. Each time I have to go through
the menu.

In IE, I press alt-a to bring up my favorites list, and first-letter
navigation works. I can't find anything this simple using Chrome.

One item in the bookmarks submenu allows you to import favorites settings.
I clicked on this, tabbed through the options, and was told at the end
that I was successful. However, nothing seems to have been imported.

Any ideas?
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Re: Google Chrome and Youtube

Londa Peterson
 

No, I don't use Chrome. I use Internet explorer. I'm looking forward to your
tutorial though. I plan on giving it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Moore
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: Google Chrome and Youtube

Hi all,
From what I understand, Londa is using Google Chrome to hear this
information. This is just one more advantage of using Chrome over using IE.
That is what Londa means. Take care.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Clark via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 11:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dennis Clark
Subject: Re: Google Chrome and Youtube

Hello Londa,
I'm understanding from your post that using IE on youtube, you hear Jaws
announce a button which can be pressed to stop an advertisement from
playing, as well as how long the advertisement is, and how much of it has
already played. I don't hear this with IE, and several others have said they
don't either. Which version of IE are you using, and also which version of
Jaws? These specifics will help those of us who are trying to track down the
assortment of differences in the various browsers using different versions
of Jaws. Thanks for your help.
Dennis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@vrocp.org>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:36 AM
Subject: RE: Google Chrome and Youtube


This definitely works in IE. I haven't tried it with Firefox.

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 4:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dennis Clark
Subject: Google Chrome and Youtube

Hello Everyone,
While going to several youtube videos using Chrome, I noticed something
that
I had not noticed before using IE or Firefox. When the page launched, an
advertisement started to play, but in the background I could hear Jaws
announce that an advertisement was playing and that it could be stopped.
As
I arrowed down, I could make out that there was a button to stop the
advertisement, and when I pressed the space bar, the advertisement stopped
instantly and the Youtube video immediately started playing. I am not
using
the latest IE or Firefox, so it is possible that each of these browsers
report the same information, but this is the first time I have heard the
stop option. It also reports the length of the advertisement and how much
has already played. I'm curious to know if what I have described is
present
with the current versions of IE and or Firefox.
Thanks,
Dennis
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Re: Dealing with embedded attachments in Outlook 2013 messages & JAWS 16

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Sometimes I've had success forwarding the article with the embedded attachments to myself, and the resulting message had the attachment in the usual attachment location above the message text, and below the subject line. Doesn't always work for me, though. Keith

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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
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Subject: Re: Dealing with embedded attachments in Outlook 2013 messages & JAWS 16

Have you tried going to the file tab then arrowing down to save all attachments? Sometimes that method works for me.

Kimber

On 11/6/15, Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC) via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Greetings,
I cannot access attachments when using Outlook in Office 2013. I am
guessing that they are embedded. Anyone encountered this behaviour? Any work around?

Regards
Guy


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Re: Dealing with embedded attachments in Outlook 2013 messages & JAWS 16

Kimber Gardner
 

Have you tried going to the file tab then arrowing down to save all
attachments? Sometimes that method works for me.

Kimber

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Greetings,
I cannot access attachments when using Outlook in Office 2013. I am guessing
that they are embedded. Anyone encountered this behaviour? Any work around?

Regards
Guy


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Re: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.

Tom Behler
 

This is the e-mail address I have used for roboBraille.

Dr. Tom Behler

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LaPointe via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:48 AM
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Subject: Re: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.

Hi, you can send the doc you want to convert to :
convert@robobraille.org in the subject line type txt if you want something
converted to text or doc if ms word ect.
I usually use this when I get a pdf that is images and says blank document
when I open it. It works great and so far, very quick. Hope this helps,
Andy and Shubert

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From: patatips via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:37 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: patatips
Subject: Re: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.

Hi Everyone,
The website is:

www.roboBraille.org

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat


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Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.


Dennis and all:

I believe there used to be a service called RoboBraille, that does various
file conversions.

Has anyone used RoboBraille with any success, and for what purpose?

I seem to recall using it several years ago, but am having a memory lapse
as
to what I used it for and how successful it actually was.

Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of dennis via
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Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:38 AM
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Cc: dennis
Subject: Re: importing pdf's to word.

go to http://www.convertfiles.com/
this will convert your pdf in to word or txt if you want.

On 11/8/2015 9:05 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Greg,

Look into convenient OCR. If I recall the keystrokes correctly, while
focus is on the document, press JAWS key+spacebar, then o, then d for
document. This works best, and perhaps only, in JAWS 16. Check the "What's
new" file in JAWS 16 help.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Nickel via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 9:41 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: importing pdf's to word.

All,



When opening pdf documents often times the pdf reads empty document.
I know that the document is there but not OCR formatted because can
import into open book to read it however I would like to select the
entire pdf from the pdf document and drop it into word rather than
opening
open book to do this.
Open book only allows me to select one page at a time and it doesn't
keep the same format as the pdf.



Any tips how to take non OCR pdf docs and get them into a word doc.
in as few steps as possible?



Thanks.

Greg



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Re: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi, you can send the doc you want to convert to :
convert@robobraille.org in the subject line type txt if you want something converted to text or doc if ms word ect.
I usually use this when I get a pdf that is images and says blank document when I open it. It works great and so far, very quick. Hope this helps, Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: patatips via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:37 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: patatips
Subject: Re: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.

Hi Everyone,
The website is:

www.roboBraille.org

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat


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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.


Dennis and all:

I believe there used to be a service called RoboBraille, that does various
file conversions.

Has anyone used RoboBraille with any success, and for what purpose?

I seem to recall using it several years ago, but am having a memory lapse as
to what I used it for and how successful it actually was.

Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of dennis via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: dennis
Subject: Re: importing pdf's to word.

go to http://www.convertfiles.com/
this will convert your pdf in to word or txt if you want.

On 11/8/2015 9:05 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Greg,

Look into convenient OCR. If I recall the keystrokes correctly, while
focus is on the document, press JAWS key+spacebar, then o, then d for
document. This works best, and perhaps only, in JAWS 16. Check the "What's
new" file in JAWS 16 help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Nickel via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 9:41 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: importing pdf's to word.

All,



When opening pdf documents often times the pdf reads empty document.
I know that the document is there but not OCR formatted because can
import into open book to read it however I would like to select the
entire pdf from the pdf document and drop it into word rather than opening
open book to do this.
Open book only allows me to select one page at a time and it doesn't
keep the same format as the pdf.



Any tips how to take non OCR pdf docs and get them into a word doc.
in as few steps as possible?



Thanks.

Greg



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Re: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.

Pat Seed
 

Hi Everyone,
The website is:

www.roboBraille.org

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.


Dennis and all:

I believe there used to be a service called RoboBraille, that does various
file conversions.

Has anyone used RoboBraille with any success, and for what purpose?

I seem to recall using it several years ago, but am having a memory lapse as
to what I used it for and how successful it actually was.

Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of dennis via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: dennis
Subject: Re: importing pdf's to word.

go to http://www.convertfiles.com/
this will convert your pdf in to word or txt if you want.

On 11/8/2015 9:05 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Greg,

Look into convenient OCR. If I recall the keystrokes correctly, while
focus is on the document, press JAWS key+spacebar, then o, then d for
document. This works best, and perhaps only, in JAWS 16. Check the "What's
new" file in JAWS 16 help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Nickel via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 9:41 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: importing pdf's to word.

All,



When opening pdf documents often times the pdf reads empty document.
I know that the document is there but not OCR formatted because can
import into open book to read it however I would like to select the
entire pdf from the pdf document and drop it into word rather than opening
open book to do this.
Open book only allows me to select one page at a time and it doesn't
keep the same format as the pdf.



Any tips how to take non OCR pdf docs and get them into a word doc.
in as few steps as possible?



Thanks.

Greg



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Re: JAWS and speech input?

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Ann, you can use Dragon with Jaws, but it's my understanding that you won't
receive automatic speech feedback unless you use J-Say with Dragon.

Les

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Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 6:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: JAWS and speech input?

Is anyone using JAWS with a speech input program such as Dragon
dictate. is it still necessary to use J-say with Jaws and Dragon?


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Crome?

Carliss
 

Listers,

Need a little help here. I downloaded and installed Crome on two computers.
One of them when I open Crome I go back to where I was, on the other one
when I open Crome, I don't know where I am. Jaws just says "Crome" . Now I
know that all of this is very new but does anyone have an idea of how to
help? If so, I would greatly appreciat it a whole lot!!!

You know, I've been wanting to use google crome for a very long time.

Take care all of you.





Carliss

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Re: Chrome vs firefox

Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Hi, thanks for the feedback. I also use gmail with chrome in basic
view and it work fine. I tryed to import in windows live mail but it
don't work for me. Not sure what is wrong but it cannot retreeve mail.

On 10/11/2015, David Moore via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi Aidan,
I was on my mobile Facebook account just last night, and I noticed the same

thing. At first, I was a little confused, because it says news feed right at

the top. I really like the way the page is laid out in Chrome so much
better. It is easier to like and comment. What do you like to do for fun? I

like to watch sports, Socialize a lot on FB and Twitter, Run, with my sight

wife or friends, play the piano, and read a lot. I keep my self busy in my
personal life. I wanted to ask you Aidan. Have you worked with the Gmail web

site. I have worked with it a lot and by using a lot of JAWS command for
HTML, it is not that bad to navigate. I have Gmail imported into my Windows

Live Mail account to make it faster, but the web site is not that bad.
Contact me any time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 5:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Chrome vs firefox

Hi david. The one thing I forgot to mention wich I love about chrome
is the fact that when I use facebook mobile, I can check allot of my
news feed, I don't have to press see more to get to a second and third
page and so on. Really great the way its displayed.

On 08/11/2015, David Moore via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi all.
There is a very little learning curve with using Google Chrome. You have
all

settings and all you need in just one vertical column called the Chrome
menu. Settings are displayed in a web page environment just like more and
more of Firefox is displayed that way. After getting use to it, the web
page

lay out is better to navigate. All of the same navigation key commands
work

in Chrome as in IE or Firefox. It is very fast and is great for streaming
video like Net Flicks and the like. It never Crashes. I really hope you
like

it for what it can do. Take care.


-----Original Message-----
From: Marianne Denning via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 5:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Marianne Denning
Subject: Re: Chrome vs firefox

I have used Firefox and IE for several years. I go back and forth
because some websites are better with one and some with the other.
Now that I hear Crome is accessible I plan to give it a try. I have
been using Google Drive and like it.

On 11/7/15, Drew Hunthausen via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Dear list,

I'm a life time user of IE and due to the way many of the aspects of my
job
and related software works have been advised to switch to Chrome or
Firefox.
What is the learning curve in switching from IE, and is there anything
else
I should be aware of. I haven't upgraded yet, but I do have Jaws 17.
Thanks
so much

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Braillieant BI Display now Windows 10 Ready

Debbie April Yuille
 

Hello

Please see the below information from Humanware. A new firmware for the
Brailliant BI has been released. This update contains support for windows 10
amongst other things.

Debbie

Latest Brailliant Update Brings Windows 10 Support and a Simple, Stable
Connection
HumanWare is excited to announce the release of new firmware and drivers for
the Brailliant Braille Displays. After updating to Version 2.1 you will
experience:

. Brailliant is now compatible with Windows 10 and other various
screen readers, including Jaws 17
. New support as a Human Interface Device (HID)
. Instant Connectivity: Connecting the Brailliant to your PC no longer
requires the installation of additional USB drivers to recognize the
display. Just as you connect a keyboard or mouse, the PC will instantly
identify the Brailliant enabling immediate access to your braille display.
. Improved stability for Brailliant USB connections: Regardless of the
number of connected devices that you use, the Brailliant remains connected
with your screen reader.
Click here to download the latest Brailliant drivers and firmware.

If you are a Jaws user, ensure that you install the updated Jaws driver from
the above Brailliant tool. In future versions of Jaws this will no longer be
necessary as this will be included by default.
Best Regards
The HumanWare Team

This message was sent to debbiey1982@optusnet.com.au on November 9, 2015.
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Re: calling out the admin

Stephanie Switzer
 

I agree, but thankfully I didn't start this thread. LOL. I was just trying to help.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Melissa Stott via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I agree.

-----Original Message----- From: judith bron via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 8:56 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: judith bron
Subject: RE: calling out the admin

This topic is really becoming tiresome. The admin for this list is a
volunteer. Personally there isn't enough money to get me to work 24/7 and
put up with all kinds of demands. If the admin is monitoring this list and
knocking out inappropriate messages so be it. In my opinion the forum is
running well and the volunteer admin has the right to his own life. JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 8:51 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: RE: calling out the admin

I have noticed a reoccurring theme here with an issue that came up earlier
this year and complaints that the admin. Wasn't monitoring the forum.

May I suggest a simple solution that might address this issue.


Perhaps a protocol that requires anyone wishing to catch the Admin.'s
attention to send an email to him that has a specific subject line reading
all caps URGENT ADMIN. And if need be on the admin.'s end sorting email
influx by subject specific to this protocol so that there is no reason for
an email to be unnoticed.


This way if anyone has an issue that they need admin assistance on they can
be assured to get him.

I'm not sure we really need the admin's baby sitting the content of the
forum but glad to have an authority if needed and for this an email to him
directly should suffice.

Thanks for your work as the admin...I'm sure it’s a thankless job...The
forum is invaluable.

Greg

From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: James Homuth
Subject: RE: calling out the admin

He's alive, and up to his neck in college things. If there are issues that
need sorted and I haven't responded to an email, it's because I didn't see
that email. Fix that, and I can fix you. Calling out the admin is not fixing
that. Calling out the admin when you could just as easily resend the email
is a good way to insure I fix it by removing you. You guys know better and
we all know it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal via
Jfw
Sent: November-09-15 5:30 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Cristóbal
Subject: RE: calling out the admin

HE'S ALIVE!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 12:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: James Homuth
Subject: RE: calling out the admin

If you're volunteering, feel free to speak up.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Song
via Jfw
Sent: November-09-15 3:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimsan Song
Subject: Re: calling out the admin

sounds like we need a new admin then lol

On Monday, November 9, 2015, emmanrusty--- via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Also, if you trying get a hold of him via Twitter don't spam his timeline.
That gets annoying.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2015, at 9:14 PM, Andre Jarreau via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
<javascript:;>> wrote:

For me I like realizing something is way over my head. That way I
can reason my thinking behind. I have no idea what you're talking
about.
And
feel ok about it! smile

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com <javascript:;>] On
Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 4:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: RE: calling out the admin

Thanks.
I just want to know why I can't subscribe with another email an how
no confirmation is sent when I make that change under my profile.
I'm not sure if it's an outlook.com thing or configuration of the list.

I've looked at my junk settings, the folders, can't find a spam
folder on outlook.com, so I'm flustered lol.
I prefer to have everything I am involved with go to one email, aint
nobody
got time for multiple email addresses for different groups lol.
Take care.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com <javascript:;>] On
Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:45 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
<javascript:;>>
Cc: Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net <javascript:;>>
Subject: RE: calling out the admin

If it helps. I'm not the admin but it came through here fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com <javascript:;>] On
Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 3:24 PM
To: jfw
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: calling out the admin

I'm not sure if my email is going through, but if the admin reads
this, please email me at kimsansong@gmail.com <javascript:;> <mailto:
kimsansong@gmail.com <javascript:;>> .

Yes, the address is on the homepage; however, I've emailed that
address I believe 3 times with no answer.

Thank you.





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Re: jaws 17 braille error in windows10 fixed

Debbie April Yuille
 

I'm glad I could help.

Debbie
Skype: apparating.girl

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2015 2:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mark Furness <flintman57@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: jaws 17 braille error in windows10 fixed

fixed I checked and made sure no display was picked

Thank you all for helping me.
On Nov 8, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Debbie April Yuille via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

You could also try going into your' braille settings and seeing if Remote access braille is listed as the default braille display, if it is, then select no display as the default. If that still doesn't fix it, you will need to re- install JAWS and remove support for Remote-access if you don't need it and that may help.

HTH
Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness via Jfw
Sent: Monday, 9 November 2015 4:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mark Furness <flintman57@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: jaws 17 braille error in windows10

I am not using a braille display.
Also, such folders mentioned do not exist on my PC.
At least I could not find it.’
I am using a 64bit system.
Never had a braille display. But, I will
chech if jaws says or thinks I have a display in its settings.

Thank you for your help Debbie.
On Nov 7, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Debbie April Yuille via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hi Mark

What Braille Display are you using? Also are you running a 32-bit or 64-bit
operating system? If you are running a 64-bit OS, then Braille Displays must
have signed drivers to be able to work under the OS.

Debbie
Skype: apparating.girl

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Subject: jaws 17 braille error in windows10

Every time I start my PC Jaws says the braille driver can not be loaded
because jaws could not verify its digital signature
the file is
c:\programdata\freedom scientific\jaws\17.0\settings\enu\default.jcf

How do I fix this problem?
Thank you for your help.

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Re: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. RoboBraille is still active and is great for converting pdf files to text. They also convert documents to mp3 files with audio narration of the text.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: RoboBraille: WAS importing pdf's to word.


Dennis and all:

I believe there used to be a service called RoboBraille, that does various
file conversions.

Has anyone used RoboBraille with any success, and for what purpose?

I seem to recall using it several years ago, but am having a memory lapse as
to what I used it for and how successful it actually was.

Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan



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Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:38 AM
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Cc: dennis
Subject: Re: importing pdf's to word.

go to http://www.convertfiles.com/
this will convert your pdf in to word or txt if you want.

On 11/8/2015 9:05 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Greg,

Look into convenient OCR. If I recall the keystrokes correctly, while
focus is on the document, press JAWS key+spacebar, then o, then d for
document. This works best, and perhaps only, in JAWS 16. Check the "What's
new" file in JAWS 16 help.

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Nickel via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 9:41 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: importing pdf's to word.

All,



When opening pdf documents often times the pdf reads empty document.
I know that the document is there but not OCR formatted because can
import into open book to read it however I would like to select the
entire pdf from the pdf document and drop it into word rather than opening
open book to do this.
Open book only allows me to select one page at a time and it doesn't
keep the same format as the pdf.



Any tips how to take non OCR pdf docs and get them into a word doc.
in as few steps as possible?



Thanks.

Greg



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Re: google chrome settings

Bobb Wiley <rwiley46@...>
 

I've just moved from jaws v13 to v16.
I used to dread google chrome because it just flat didn't work.

Now it seems to work great. There are still some differences that I have to
get used to, but, thus far it works as good as internet explorer.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Clark via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 9:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dennis Clark
Subject: Re: google chrome settings

Hi Adrian,
I'm not signed up with Google, but in addition to the login screen I still
get other content below the login section.
Best,
Dennis

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: google chrome settings


Or if Google needs to recognize you as a member. I did sign up at some
point. Is Pat signed up?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: Re: google chrome settings

I get that on my computer, but not my husband's machine. it just
sticks on settings and I can't get the stinker to do anything. I
wonder if there is a JAWS setting that needs to be changed.
At 08:19 PM 11/9/2015, you wrote:
Hello Ann,
I'm pasting below what I get when I press Alt, arrow down to
settings, then hit enter. This is with a computer running Windows 7,
and I think Jaws 14, but definitely much earlier than jaws 16.

Settings
document
Chrome

History
History
Extensions
Extensions
Settings
Settings
About
About
document end

Settings document
banner
Search settings

banner end
banner
Settings
banner end
region
Sign in
Sign in to get your tabs, bookmarks, history, and other settings on
all your devices. You'll also automatically be signed in to your
Google services.
Learn more
Sign in to Chrome
region end
region
On startup
Open the New Tab page
Continue where you left off
Open a specific page or set of pages.
Set pages
region end
region
Appearance
Get themes
Reset to default theme
Show Home button
Always show the bookmarks bar
region end
region
Search
Set which search engine is used when searching from the
omnibox.
Set which search engine is used when searching from the omnibox.
Google
Manage search engines...
region end
region
People
list of 1 items
Person 1 (current)
Delete this item
list end
Enable Guest browsing
Let anyone add a person to Chrome
Add person...
Edit...
Remove...
Import bookmarks and settings...
region end
region
Default browser
The default browser is currently Google Chrome.
region end
content information
Show advanced settings...
content information end
Settings document end


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Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: google chrome settings


windows 7; JAWS 16.

with google Chrome installed, I opened my homepage, then pressed
alt. There is a menu button, which I pressed, arrowing to
settings. but when I press senter on settings, JAWS says,
"settings, no links" and nothing more. If I select all, all JAWS
says is settings. If I tab, it says "settings'. If I jump up and
down, it says 'settings'. I cannot find a way to open that
stinkin' settings page.

What's the trick, please????

Thanks,

Ann


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Re: google chrome settings

Dennis Clark <dennis@...>
 

Hi Adrian,
I'm not signed up with Google, but in addition to the login screen I still get other content below the login section.
Best,
Dennis

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From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: google chrome settings


Or if Google needs to recognize you as a member. I did sign up at some point. Is Pat signed up?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: Re: google chrome settings

I get that on my computer, but not my husband's machine. it just
sticks on settings and I can't get the stinker to do anything. I
wonder if there is a JAWS setting that needs to be changed.
At 08:19 PM 11/9/2015, you wrote:
Hello Ann,
I'm pasting below what I get when I press Alt, arrow down to
settings, then hit enter. This is with a computer running Windows 7,
and I think Jaws 14, but definitely much earlier than jaws 16.

Settings
document
Chrome

History
History
Extensions
Extensions
Settings
Settings
About
About
document end

Settings document
banner
Search settings

banner end
banner
Settings
banner end
region
Sign in
Sign in to get your tabs, bookmarks, history, and other settings on
all your devices. You'll also automatically be signed in to your
Google services.
Learn more
Sign in to Chrome
region end
region
On startup
Open the New Tab page
Continue where you left off
Open a specific page or set of pages.
Set pages
region end
region
Appearance
Get themes
Reset to default theme
Show Home button
Always show the bookmarks bar
region end
region
Search
Set which search engine is used when searching from the
omnibox.
Set which search engine is used when searching from the omnibox.
Google
Manage search engines...
region end
region
People
list of 1 items
Person 1 (current)
Delete this item
list end
Enable Guest browsing
Let anyone add a person to Chrome
Add person...
Edit...
Remove...
Import bookmarks and settings...
region end
region
Default browser
The default browser is currently Google Chrome.
region end
content information
Show advanced settings...
content information end
Settings document end


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Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: google chrome settings


windows 7; JAWS 16.

with google Chrome installed, I opened my homepage, then pressed
alt. There is a menu button, which I pressed, arrowing to
settings. but when I press senter on settings, JAWS says,
"settings, no links" and nothing more. If I select all, all JAWS
says is settings. If I tab, it says "settings'. If I jump up and
down, it says 'settings'. I cannot find a way to open that
stinkin' settings page.

What's the trick, please????

Thanks,

Ann


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Re: google chrome settings

Adrian Spratt
 

But notice how some of those headings/links don't necessarily relate to Chrome? Are you already signed up for another Google service? Whether Google requires actual sign-in or recognizes a user of its services, I infer membership is involved.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Clark via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 9:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dennis Clark
Subject: Re: google chrome settings

Hi Adrian,
I also got that google login screen as you can see from the message I sent
Ann where I pasted my screen contents into the message, but if you continue
arrowing down I think there are more options below.
Best,
Dennis


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Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: google chrome settings


Ann,

I just tried your various methods of opening Chrome's settings, except for
the jumping up and down one, and found that pressing enter does have an
effect. After a pause, a webpage opens and a Google sign-up page appears.
I infer we're supposed to sign up for Google and log in in order to manage
settings. Also Win7, JAWS 16.

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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 8:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: google chrome settings

windows 7; JAWS 16.

with google Chrome installed, I opened my homepage, then pressed
alt. There is a menu button, which I pressed, arrowing to
settings. but when I press senter on settings, JAWS says, "settings,
no links" and nothing more. If I select all, all JAWS says is
settings. If I tab, it says "settings'. If I jump up and down, it
says 'settings'. I cannot find a way to open that stinkin' settings page.

What's the trick, please????

Thanks,

Ann


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