Re: Blind Tunes Translation to new languages

John Martyn

The following languages are already in process:
Dutch, finnish, hebrew, portuguese, spanish, swedish, and italian.
If you happen to know german or another language that would be great.
John
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: Blind Tunes Translation to new languages

do you have a list of languages you want it in, and/or a list of the assorted items that need translation?

elf
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From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: <blindtunesbeta@freelists.org>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:49 PM
Subject: Blind Tunes Translation to new languages

Hi all,
As for wrapping up the blind tunes project, I am focusing on the translations for it. You can translate to any language you like and I need some volunteers.
Already I have the following languages going or in process:
Dutch, finnish, hebrew, portuguese, spanish, swedish, and italian.
If uou would like to take a swing at it and would like being included in the special thanks section, please write back to Support@BlindTunes.net
Thanks so much for your contributions thus far,
John Martyn
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Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Charles Krugman

its purpose is to make the pro versions of Windows programs compatible with it. In a previous work setting where they were using XP pro and other similar programs the regular version of JAWS wouldn't work so my employer had to pay for the upgrade for me.
Chuck

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Now can someone list all the extra functions you get with the pro version for that extra $200? For$200, you must get a lot more features with the pro version, right?
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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Gerald went to the FS website and corrected what I was careful to say was a
guess. If you count the cost of SMAs for those of us who stayed current from
JAWS 7 to 12, FS's $400 price tag for JAWS 12 from 7 looks cheap. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Karen Hughes Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:40 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12 who ever said anything about fair. they do this to everyone. karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:57 AM Subject: Re: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12 Full price! You mean FS doesn't even give you a break if you are already a loyal JAWS user? So somebody who is using an older version of JAWS like JAWS 7 or 8 would pay the same$1000 for JAWS 12 as somebody who has never
used JAWS before? This just doesn't seem fair.

Gerald

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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Check with FS in the morning, but I suspect your friend would be asked to
pay full price. I suggest waiting for the release of JAWS 13, which I
believe is anticipated in November. This way if your friend bought an SMA
at
the same time, s/he would be eligible to upgrade to JAWS 14 without
12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. I'm assuming
someone using JAWS 7 hasn't yet switched to Windows 7. I still use XP
Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Brian and Denise Albriton
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:34 AM
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Subject: upgrading jaws from 7 to 12

Has anyone move from jaws 7 to 12 and if so how much did it cost?
Checking on behalf of a friend.

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Re: Help with contact to the person there has make the Windows XPUnattended Setup Kit

Hello there;

Well, the unintended setup kit, will install to the CDrive,

As for a second partition,
You will need to use a third party program such as, partition magic.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Help with contact to the person there has make the Windows
XPUnattended Setup Kit

sorry I no longer have contact with him

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<english_correspondences@boholdt-petersen.dk>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:58 PM
Subject: Help with contact to the person there has make the Windows
XPUnattended Setup Kit

Hi everyone,

Earlier I have downloaded and used the Windows XP Unattended Setup Kit
from
http://www.jfwlite.com/WinXPUnattendedSetupKit.zip
, and it working fine for me.

But I am not sure how I can modify the Windows XP Unattended Setup Kit so
they make two equal partitions and install Windows XP on the C:-drive, and
only make the D:-drive on my hard drive.

Since I via Google has found that the person there has make the Windows XP
Unattended Setup Kit (Terrill Reynolds) earlier have writen on the
Reynolds so I can write to him and ask about how I do this.

Very thanks.

Regards,
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Re: Help with contact to the person there has make the Windows XPUnattended Setup Kit

inthane <inthaneelf@...>

sorry I no longer have contact with him

elf
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen" <english_correspondences@boholdt-petersen.dk>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:58 PM
Subject: Help with contact to the person there has make the Windows XPUnattended Setup Kit

Hi everyone,

Earlier I have downloaded and used the Windows XP Unattended Setup Kit from
http://www.jfwlite.com/WinXPUnattendedSetupKit.zip
, and it working fine for me.

But I am not sure how I can modify the Windows XP Unattended Setup Kit so they make two equal partitions and install Windows XP on the C:-drive, and only make the D:-drive on my hard drive.

Since I via Google has found that the person there has make the Windows XP Unattended Setup Kit (Terrill Reynolds) earlier have writen on the JFW-list, I will ask about if the person have the mail address to Terrill Reynolds so I can write to him and ask about how I do this.

Very thanks.

Regards,
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Re: Blind Tunes Translation to new languages

inthane <inthaneelf@...>

do you have a list of languages you want it in, and/or a list of the assorted items that need translation?

elf
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: <blindtunesbeta@freelists.org>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:49 PM
Subject: Blind Tunes Translation to new languages

Hi all,
As for wrapping up the blind tunes project, I am focusing on the translations for it. You can translate to any language you like and I need some volunteers.
Already I have the following languages going or in process:
Dutch, finnish, hebrew, portuguese, spanish, swedish, and italian.
If uou would like to take a swing at it and would like being included in the special thanks section, please write back to Support@BlindTunes.net
Thanks so much for your contributions thus far,
John Martyn
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Re: Beta testing jaws 13:

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>

Good luck do you think you will see if the excel will work in Jaws 12 or is
that to risky?\it is hard to understand how something as basic as excel
could have been left out, I was speaking to a friend in Uk who was still
using jaws 7, but had Office 7 aand he can use excel, it is the oddest
oversight,for fs to make and I still think it is a bit worrying they have
not said plainly it will be fixed before jaws13 is ready to be launched..
dorothy

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On Behalf Of Kenny Peyatt
Sent: 19 September 2011 17:46
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Beta testing jaws 13:

Hi I plan to try jaws 13 beta on my vista laptop tonight. I will let you
know how it gos.
Kenny Peyatt

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Re: Beta testing jaws 13:

Bob - KA5ETA <ka5eta@...>

I have put Jaws 13 on my XP Pro desktop and also on my Windows 7 64 bit
laptop and so far it has been really stable the only thing that I have not
been able to get to work is the OCR feature. Now to be fair about it I have
only tried one pdf file and hat was on my laptop and it was an attachment of
a email. If FS does not brake something between now and the release day I
think it is going to be a good update.

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:45 AM
Subject: Beta testing jaws 13:

Hi I plan to try jaws 13 beta on my vista laptop tonight. I will let you
know how it gos.
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Beta testing jaws 13:

Kenny Peyattt jr.

Hi I plan to try jaws 13 beta on my vista laptop tonight. I will let you know how it gos.
Kenny Peyatt

Re: Jaws 13 beta.

DJ

Why do you keep asking it?

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:59 PM
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Subject: Jaws 13 beta.

What is the executable file name for Jaws 13 beta? Thanks in advance Dennis.

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Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>

Well peter, I do not have courage to beta test,also I do not need itI have
paid in December for jaws 13,but it would have beenpretty dreadful if those
who need excel now to be left guessing till whatever update for jaws 12 is
handed down from above why can't they say now? It should not be a secret,
unless the news is bad? Well maybe some clever risk taker on the list may
have a stab at it,even if not us dorothy

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On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: 19 September 2011 16:47
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

I don't need to, quite happy with everything. Just a suggestion for those

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Peter,

Still sounds risky, using scripts from a later version. But give it a try,
if you'd like.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:34
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

For those people who cannot afford to upgrade to JAWS 12 but are having
significant problems with an application and therefore are unable to use the
application.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

That sounds very risky, and what's the point? If you've got JAWS 13 running
and it works, why try to apply a "band-aid" to JAWS 12?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 23:15
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just a thought but for those people having problems such as the issue with
Excel is it worth trying to copy the Excel files from JAWS 13 beta and
pasting them in to 12. Would that work to fix some of the issues?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Bob,

I solved that by using the CardFile view. Then all you do is type the first
few letters and that section comes up.

Lack of first-letter navigation is very likely not a JAWS issue. Take for
example the add/remove programs list in XP. It has never been first-letter

Now I understand that in Windows 7 it is. And FS had nothing to do with
that -- it is all Microsoft.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob - KA5ETA" <ka5eta@swbell.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:18
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

The one thing that I have found that I wish they had fixed is the first
letter search in Outlook 2007 contacts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just to let you all know, Excel 2007 now works with JAWS 13. And that was my
biggest complaint.

They did take my favorite keystrokes for reading top 4 and leftmost 4 cells
and give them over to the new Insert+Shift, T table navigation set with a
completely unimaginative set of Alt+1 through 8 keys, so I added my own
keystrokes to these and fixed that problem.

So far JAWS 13 is behaving no worse than JAWS 12 in general situations
overall, and perhaps more responsive.

Again bear in mind that I'm still using XP Pro and the Office 2007 suite.

The Convenient OCR feature is pretty good, although I haven't tried too many
examples of it.

Of course ResearchIt is broken for some of the sites, but that's not a JAWS
issue.

Note that I copied over my JAWS 12 Place Markers, Personalized Settings, and
JAWS dictionary files. I *did not* use the merge feature.

And I definitely modified the OCR voice to something less drastic.

Pretty good so far, right out of the box.

I think my theory of odd-numbered versions of JAWS being the best is holding
up.

Dave Carlson
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Re: Using Newer Scripts on Older Versions Was: Jaws13.0 beta

Dave...

Peter,

On this list we have people who may take your suggestion seriously, and I'm
just helping them possibly avoid screwing up their installation of an
earlier version by experimenting.

Scripts developed for a later version of JAWS usually take advantage of
features that may not be available earlier, and thereby not function at all.
Particularly these experimenters should not be copying over the .jsb or .jss
files.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:46
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

I don't need to, quite happy with everything. Just a suggestion for those

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Peter,

Still sounds risky, using scripts from a later version. But give it a try,
if you'd like.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:34
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

For those people who cannot afford to upgrade to JAWS 12 but are having
significant problems with an application and therefore are unable to use the
application.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

That sounds very risky, and what's the point? If you've got JAWS 13 running
and it works, why try to apply a "band-aid" to JAWS 12?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 23:15
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just a thought but for those people having problems such as the issue with
Excel is it worth trying to copy the Excel files from JAWS 13 beta and
pasting them in to 12. Would that work to fix some of the issues?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Bob,

I solved that by using the CardFile view. Then all you do is type the first
few letters and that section comes up.

Lack of first-letter navigation is very likely not a JAWS issue. Take for
example the add/remove programs list in XP. It has never been first-letter

Now I understand that in Windows 7 it is. And FS had nothing to do with
that -- it is all Microsoft.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob - KA5ETA" <ka5eta@swbell.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:18
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

The one thing that I have found that I wish they had fixed is the first
letter search in Outlook 2007 contacts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just to let you all know, Excel 2007 now works with JAWS 13. And that was my
biggest complaint.

They did take my favorite keystrokes for reading top 4 and leftmost 4 cells
and give them over to the new Insert+Shift, T table navigation set with a
completely unimaginative set of Alt+1 through 8 keys, so I added my own
keystrokes to these and fixed that problem.

So far JAWS 13 is behaving no worse than JAWS 12 in general situations
overall, and perhaps more responsive.

Again bear in mind that I'm still using XP Pro and the Office 2007 suite.

The Convenient OCR feature is pretty good, although I haven't tried too many
examples of it.

Of course ResearchIt is broken for some of the sites, but that's not a JAWS
issue.

Note that I copied over my JAWS 12 Place Markers, Personalized Settings, and
JAWS dictionary files. I *did not* use the merge feature.

And I definitely modified the OCR voice to something less drastic.

Pretty good so far, right out of the box.

I think my theory of odd-numbered versions of JAWS being the best is holding
up.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

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Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...>

I don't need to, quite happy with everything. Just a suggestion for those who really can't upgrade.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Peter,

Still sounds risky, using scripts from a later version. But give it a try,
if you'd like.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:34
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

For those people who cannot afford to upgrade to JAWS 12 but are having
significant problems with an application and therefore are unable to use the
application.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

That sounds very risky, and what's the point? If you've got JAWS 13 running
and it works, why try to apply a "band-aid" to JAWS 12?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 23:15
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just a thought but for those people having problems such as the issue with
Excel is it worth trying to copy the Excel files from JAWS 13 beta and
pasting them in to 12. Would that work to fix some of the issues?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Bob,

I solved that by using the CardFile view. Then all you do is type the first
few letters and that section comes up.

Lack of first-letter navigation is very likely not a JAWS issue. Take for
example the add/remove programs list in XP. It has never been first-letter

Now I understand that in Windows 7 it is. And FS had nothing to do with
that -- it is all Microsoft.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob - KA5ETA" <ka5eta@swbell.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:18
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

The one thing that I have found that I wish they had fixed is the first
letter search in Outlook 2007 contacts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just to let you all know, Excel 2007 now works with JAWS 13. And that was my
biggest complaint.

They did take my favorite keystrokes for reading top 4 and leftmost 4 cells
and give them over to the new Insert+Shift, T table navigation set with a
completely unimaginative set of Alt+1 through 8 keys, so I added my own
keystrokes to these and fixed that problem.

So far JAWS 13 is behaving no worse than JAWS 12 in general situations
overall, and perhaps more responsive.

Again bear in mind that I'm still using XP Pro and the Office 2007 suite.

The Convenient OCR feature is pretty good, although I haven't tried too many
examples of it.

Of course ResearchIt is broken for some of the sites, but that's not a JAWS
issue.

Note that I copied over my JAWS 12 Place Markers, Personalized Settings, and
JAWS dictionary files. I *did not* use the merge feature.

And I definitely modified the OCR voice to something less drastic.

Pretty good so far, right out of the box.

I think my theory of odd-numbered versions of JAWS being the best is holding
up.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

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Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Dave...

Peter,

Still sounds risky, using scripts from a later version. But give it a try,
if you'd like.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:34
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

For those people who cannot afford to upgrade to JAWS 12 but are having
significant problems with an application and therefore are unable to use the
application.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

That sounds very risky, and what's the point? If you've got JAWS 13 running
and it works, why try to apply a "band-aid" to JAWS 12?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 23:15
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just a thought but for those people having problems such as the issue with
Excel is it worth trying to copy the Excel files from JAWS 13 beta and
pasting them in to 12. Would that work to fix some of the issues?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Bob,

I solved that by using the CardFile view. Then all you do is type the first
few letters and that section comes up.

Lack of first-letter navigation is very likely not a JAWS issue. Take for
example the add/remove programs list in XP. It has never been first-letter

Now I understand that in Windows 7 it is. And FS had nothing to do with
that -- it is all Microsoft.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob - KA5ETA" <ka5eta@swbell.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:18
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

The one thing that I have found that I wish they had fixed is the first
letter search in Outlook 2007 contacts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just to let you all know, Excel 2007 now works with JAWS 13. And that was my
biggest complaint.

They did take my favorite keystrokes for reading top 4 and leftmost 4 cells
and give them over to the new Insert+Shift, T table navigation set with a
completely unimaginative set of Alt+1 through 8 keys, so I added my own
keystrokes to these and fixed that problem.

So far JAWS 13 is behaving no worse than JAWS 12 in general situations
overall, and perhaps more responsive.

Again bear in mind that I'm still using XP Pro and the Office 2007 suite.

The Convenient OCR feature is pretty good, although I haven't tried too many
examples of it.

Of course ResearchIt is broken for some of the sites, but that's not a JAWS
issue.

Note that I copied over my JAWS 12 Place Markers, Personalized Settings, and
JAWS dictionary files. I *did not* use the merge feature.

And I definitely modified the OCR voice to something less drastic.

Pretty good so far, right out of the box.

I think my theory of odd-numbered versions of JAWS being the best is holding
up.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

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Robert, go to:
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Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Dorothy <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>

a good idea would be to ask Fs, if they say they are going to fix it regardless of jfw 13,at least we will know their intentions, Dave says Eric damery has told us jaws 12 will have a fix before jfw 13 is out for sale, it may be a good way of getting clear information,especially if they think clients may mess up their computers by trying themselves only a thought regards dorothy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

For those people who cannot afford to upgrade to JAWS 12 but are having significant problems with an application and therefore are unable to use the application.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

That sounds very risky, and what's the point? If you've got JAWS 13 running
and it works, why try to apply a "band-aid" to JAWS 12?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 23:15
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just a thought but for those people having problems such as the issue with
Excel is it worth trying to copy the Excel files from JAWS 13 beta and
pasting them in to 12. Would that work to fix some of the issues?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Bob,

I solved that by using the CardFile view. Then all you do is type the first
few letters and that section comes up.

Lack of first-letter navigation is very likely not a JAWS issue. Take for
example the add/remove programs list in XP. It has never been first-letter

Now I understand that in Windows 7 it is. And FS had nothing to do with
that -- it is all Microsoft.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob - KA5ETA" <ka5eta@swbell.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:18
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

The one thing that I have found that I wish they had fixed is the first
letter search in Outlook 2007 contacts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just to let you all know, Excel 2007 now works with JAWS 13. And that was my
biggest complaint.

They did take my favorite keystrokes for reading top 4 and leftmost 4 cells
and give them over to the new Insert+Shift, T table navigation set with a
completely unimaginative set of Alt+1 through 8 keys, so I added my own
keystrokes to these and fixed that problem.

So far JAWS 13 is behaving no worse than JAWS 12 in general situations
overall, and perhaps more responsive.

Again bear in mind that I'm still using XP Pro and the Office 2007 suite.

The Convenient OCR feature is pretty good, although I haven't tried too many
examples of it.

Of course ResearchIt is broken for some of the sites, but that's not a JAWS
issue.

Note that I copied over my JAWS 12 Place Markers, Personalized Settings, and
JAWS dictionary files. I *did not* use the merge feature.

And I definitely modified the OCR voice to something less drastic.

Pretty good so far, right out of the box.

I think my theory of odd-numbered versions of JAWS being the best is holding
up.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

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Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...>

For those people who cannot afford to upgrade to JAWS 12 but are having significant problems with an application and therefore are unable to use the application.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

That sounds very risky, and what's the point? If you've got JAWS 13 running
and it works, why try to apply a "band-aid" to JAWS 12?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 23:15
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just a thought but for those people having problems such as the issue with
Excel is it worth trying to copy the Excel files from JAWS 13 beta and
pasting them in to 12. Would that work to fix some of the issues?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Bob,

I solved that by using the CardFile view. Then all you do is type the first
few letters and that section comes up.

Lack of first-letter navigation is very likely not a JAWS issue. Take for
example the add/remove programs list in XP. It has never been first-letter

Now I understand that in Windows 7 it is. And FS had nothing to do with
that -- it is all Microsoft.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob - KA5ETA" <ka5eta@swbell.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:18
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

The one thing that I have found that I wish they had fixed is the first
letter search in Outlook 2007 contacts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just to let you all know, Excel 2007 now works with JAWS 13. And that was my
biggest complaint.

They did take my favorite keystrokes for reading top 4 and leftmost 4 cells
and give them over to the new Insert+Shift, T table navigation set with a
completely unimaginative set of Alt+1 through 8 keys, so I added my own
keystrokes to these and fixed that problem.

So far JAWS 13 is behaving no worse than JAWS 12 in general situations
overall, and perhaps more responsive.

Again bear in mind that I'm still using XP Pro and the Office 2007 suite.

The Convenient OCR feature is pretty good, although I haven't tried too many
examples of it.

Of course ResearchIt is broken for some of the sites, but that's not a JAWS
issue.

Note that I copied over my JAWS 12 Place Markers, Personalized Settings, and
JAWS dictionary files. I *did not* use the merge feature.

And I definitely modified the OCR voice to something less drastic.

Pretty good so far, right out of the box.

I think my theory of odd-numbered versions of JAWS being the best is holding
up.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

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Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?

Charles Krugman

I have noticed the same problem on a particular web site and it reads it as "applications Menu" in JAWS 12 latest version. This occurs where there is a menu box with a dropdown menu and an item has to be selected. once in a while I can get beyond this point by closing the menu box and selecting but I don't always remember what I did to do it.
Chuck

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Loftis" <kll2277@hotmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?

Well, unfortunately, Mike, your method didn't work for me... yes, applications mode would, in fact, go off, but keeps coming back on the next time I try to move my cursor or enter a key command. Thanks so much for trying, though! I really appreciate it. *smile*

Adrian, I sadly must agree with you regarding inconsistent methods here... I've tried everything, but to no real avail. I appreciate knowing that 11 seems to illiminate this issue, at least for you... very good to know.

I apppreciate hearing about your experiences... they mirror mine, at least as far as Jaws 10 goes. Anyway, thanks so much!

Warmest,
Kim

--------------------------------------------------
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:30 PM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?

Kim and Mike,

I hope this method works on these websites. When I used JAWS 10, I found
solutions inconsistent. On Yahoo Finance, for example, I had to locate the
toggle link for applications mode to turn it off.

For me, the problem was completely eliminated in JAWS 11. I can't speak for
all webpages, but I've never encountered applications mode after JAWS 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara In Arcadia
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?

Hi Kim,

You can disregard my last reply. I found some laptop keystrokes in my
notes. They are below. What you want is the first 1.

Laptop commands

find the laptop keys for jaws

PC Cursor

CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

JAWS Cursor

CAPS LOCK+P

Invisible Cursor

CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly

Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor

CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE

Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor

CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET

Restrict JAWS Cursor

CAPS LOCK+R

Left Mouse Button

CAPS LOCK+8

Right Mouse Button

CAPS LOCK+9

Left Mouse Button Lock

CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8

Right Mouse Button Lock

CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9

Drag and Drop

CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8

Say Active Cursor

ALT+DELETE

Mouse Down

ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW

Mouse Left

ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW

Mouse Right

ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW

Mouse Up

ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW

press capslock and P

will switch to the jaws cursor

press capslock and semi colon to switch back to the PC cursor.

Hope this helps. Take care.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Kim Loftis
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?

Hi Mike,

Many thanks for that info!! I'm using a laptop, though, so don't have a
separate number pad... any idea what the laptop keystroke may be?

Thanks again!

Warmest,
Kim

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:30 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?

> Hi Kim,
>
> Application mode is invoked by JAWS because the page is coded as an
> application. This is done through HTML codes. Pressing numpad plus
brings
> you back to
> virtual mode and makes the page readable. Hope this helps. Take
care.
> Mike
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kim Loftis
> To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:19 PM
> Subject: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> On many pages using Jaws 10 and XP Pro, I'm running into the "app
mode
on"
> message from Jaws. This is happening particularly with PayPal and on
my
> Wordpress site dashboard when editing content there. When I run into
this
> issue, it's pretty much impossible to access a page and issue any
commands,
> enter any text, etc.
>
> Is there any way to keep "app mode" from appearing, even temporarily.
I
> desperately need to get these website pages edited, and this is giving
me a
>
> Any tips, suggestions or fixes would be tremendously appreciated!
>
>
> Warmest,
> Kim

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Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Dave...

That sounds very risky, and what's the point? If you've got JAWS 13 running
and it works, why try to apply a "band-aid" to JAWS 12?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 23:15
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just a thought but for those people having problems such as the issue with
Excel is it worth trying to copy the Excel files from JAWS 13 beta and
pasting them in to 12. Would that work to fix some of the issues?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Bob,

I solved that by using the CardFile view. Then all you do is type the first
few letters and that section comes up.

Lack of first-letter navigation is very likely not a JAWS issue. Take for
example the add/remove programs list in XP. It has never been first-letter

Now I understand that in Windows 7 it is. And FS had nothing to do with
that -- it is all Microsoft.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob - KA5ETA" <ka5eta@swbell.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:18
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

The one thing that I have found that I wish they had fixed is the first
letter search in Outlook 2007 contacts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just to let you all know, Excel 2007 now works with JAWS 13. And that was my
biggest complaint.

They did take my favorite keystrokes for reading top 4 and leftmost 4 cells
and give them over to the new Insert+Shift, T table navigation set with a
completely unimaginative set of Alt+1 through 8 keys, so I added my own
keystrokes to these and fixed that problem.

So far JAWS 13 is behaving no worse than JAWS 12 in general situations
overall, and perhaps more responsive.

Again bear in mind that I'm still using XP Pro and the Office 2007 suite.

The Convenient OCR feature is pretty good, although I haven't tried too many
examples of it.

Of course ResearchIt is broken for some of the sites, but that's not a JAWS
issue.

Note that I copied over my JAWS 12 Place Markers, Personalized Settings, and
JAWS dictionary files. I *did not* use the merge feature.

And I definitely modified the OCR voice to something less drastic.

Pretty good so far, right out of the box.

I think my theory of odd-numbered versions of JAWS being the best is holding
up.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

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Re: Unscribe

Dave...

Robert,

Sorry to hear of your hospitalization. However you don't unsubscribe that
way, even if you spelled it right next time. Go here and unsubscribe:

http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 21:48
Subject: Unscribe

I hope this e-mail will get to someone who cares. I would prefer to be
removed from this mailling list. My reason is that while I was hospitalized
for a week my in box received so many e-mail from everyone who had a
commputer problem that my in box ran out of space. So full that some of my
regular email buddies have sending me their e-mails to me since their
messages were returned to them as being undeliverable.
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Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@...>

Just a thought but for those people having problems such as the issue with Excel is it worth trying to copy the Excel files from JAWS 13 beta and pasting them in to 12. Would that work to fix some of the issues?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Bob,

I solved that by using the CardFile view. Then all you do is type the first
few letters and that section comes up.

Lack of first-letter navigation is very likely not a JAWS issue. Take for
example the add/remove programs list in XP. It has never been first-letter

Now I understand that in Windows 7 it is. And FS had nothing to do with
that -- it is all Microsoft.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob - KA5ETA" <ka5eta@swbell.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:18
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

The one thing that I have found that I wish they had fixed is the first
letter search in Outlook 2007 contacts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws13.0 beta

Just to let you all know, Excel 2007 now works with JAWS 13. And that was my
biggest complaint.

They did take my favorite keystrokes for reading top 4 and leftmost 4 cells
and give them over to the new Insert+Shift, T table navigation set with a
completely unimaginative set of Alt+1 through 8 keys, so I added my own
keystrokes to these and fixed that problem.

So far JAWS 13 is behaving no worse than JAWS 12 in general situations
overall, and perhaps more responsive.

Again bear in mind that I'm still using XP Pro and the Office 2007 suite.

The Convenient OCR feature is pretty good, although I haven't tried too many
examples of it.

Of course ResearchIt is broken for some of the sites, but that's not a JAWS
issue.

Note that I copied over my JAWS 12 Place Markers, Personalized Settings, and
JAWS dictionary files. I *did not* use the merge feature.

And I definitely modified the OCR voice to something less drastic.

Pretty good so far, right out of the box.

I think my theory of odd-numbered versions of JAWS being the best is holding
up.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

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