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Re: filters in outlook 2010

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thanks. Interestingly, if I press Alt V, P, N, I cannot press O or R
afterward. It kicks me out of the menu.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 9:35 PM
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Cc: Dale Alton <blinkydale@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: filters in outlook 2010

Hi,

With the jaws cursor active go to the status line and pres the right
mouse button.once and then tab through to uncheck the items you don't
want to see, such as filter.
Not to have the preview press alt+v, p ,n, o.
Denver Dale


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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 6:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: filters in outlook 2010

The status line in outlook 2010 says 'filter applied, 10%". I don't know
what is being filtered or how to get rid of it. I went into view and
sniffed around, hit all the 'clear all' buttons I could find, and it
still says 'filtered applied, 10%". It says there are
2794 unread messages in the inbox, but I don't know how many are showing.

Any rescue would be appreciated!!!



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Re: filters in outlook 2010

Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
 

Hi,

With the jaws cursor active go to the status line and pres the right mouse
button.once and then tab through to uncheck the items you don't want to see,
such as filter.
Not to have the preview press alt+v, p ,n, o.
Denver Dale

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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 6:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: filters in outlook 2010

The status line in outlook 2010 says 'filter applied, 10%". I don't know
what is being filtered or how to get rid of it. I went into view and
sniffed around, hit all the 'clear all' buttons I could find, and it still
says 'filtered applied, 10%". It says there are
2794 unread messages in the inbox, but I don't know how many are showing.

Any rescue would be appreciated!!!



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Re: filters in outlook 2010

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

My status line, now that Microsoft Disability worked on it in Outlook
2013 says something like:

You have 16 messages in your inbox; one unread; connectivity to server;
filter applied 10 percent.

It used to just give that filter message. I hated it. I like to know how
many messages that I have read and unread. I really don't care anything
about filter and how much, as long as my computer works.

Another thing that I had to do in Outlook, and I can't remember how I
did, but when I found it by accident, I went into all my boxes and gave
the command so that if a message is unread, it continues to say unread
even if I have arrowed across it. I can't remember that command, would
have to go on a fishing expedition to do it again.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:27 PM
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Cc: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: filters in outlook 2010

The status line in outlook 2010 says 'filter applied, 10%". I don't know
what is being filtered or how to get rid of it. I went into view and
sniffed around, hit all the 'clear all' buttons I could find, and it
still says 'filtered applied, 10%". It says there are
2794 unread messages in the inbox, but I don't know how many are showing.

Any rescue would be appreciated!!!



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filters in outlook 2010

Ann Byrne
 

The status line in outlook 2010 says 'filter applied, 10%". I don't know what is being filtered or how to get rid of it. I went into view and sniffed around, hit all the 'clear all' buttons I could find, and it still says 'filtered applied, 10%". It says there are 2794 unread messages in the inbox, but I don't know how many are showing.

Any rescue would be appreciated!!!


Re: Accessible education university in US

Pablo Morales
 

Yes, I had the same experience.

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Hunthausen via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 7:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Accessible education university in US

Also, when you call a university, ask to be connected with the disabled
students survices (DSS) department. You will probably have better luck this
way even if yu don't reach anyone and have to leave a message. In my
experience, leaving a message or e-mail to a general number does not get a
response because the person that reads or listen to them doesn't have any
idea about disabled student accessibility. Good luck

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'; TechTalk@groups.io
Cc: Greg Nickel; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com; blindtech@groups.io
Subject: RE: Accessible education university in US

Pablo.

Each university has a specific department that coordinates all ADA related
issues between faculty, staff and student body. You need to ask for the
contact information of this specific department and engage of them directly.
Certainly, as you have experienced, if you don't take the initiative no one
else will. The lesson to be learned here is not to wait for anyone to call
you back rather, follow up with them based on a time line that you deem
acceptable.

Best of success...






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Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:41 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Cc: Pablo Morales; blindtech@groups.io; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com; 'The
Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Accessible education university in US

Hi all,

I am looking for a university where I can do online classes for Human
Resources Business administration and management in the US . I have been in
contact by phone with several universities but when I ask them about the
accessibility on their web sites, or accessibility in the books that I need
to buy for each class, then their answers ends. I have been in contact with
17 different universities online, and all of them said that the
accessibility department will call me back, but I have been waiting more
than one year for those calls.

Guys, are you studying in Universities online?

Does anybody know a university, where their online classes are accessible?

And also the books are accessible?

My wife is low vision, and she had a lot of accessibility problems in the
university where she was studying . I am totally blind, and I have no way to
study if I found a platform not accessible, or books not accessible either.

Does anybody here know system better, what I can do if I need to continue my
education after I lost my vision?

What are the accessible resources today?

Thanks for all,

P









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Re: Accessible education university in US

Drew Hunthausen
 

Also, when you call a university, ask to be connected with the disabled
students survices (DSS) department. You will probably have better luck this
way even if yu don't reach anyone and have to leave a message. In my
experience, leaving a message or e-mail to a general number does not get a
response because the person that reads or listen to them doesn't have any
idea about disabled student accessibility. Good luck

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'; TechTalk@groups.io
Cc: Greg Nickel; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com; blindtech@groups.io
Subject: RE: Accessible education university in US

Pablo.

Each university has a specific department that coordinates all ADA related
issues between faculty, staff and student body. You need to ask for the
contact information of this specific department and engage of them directly.
Certainly, as you have experienced, if you don't take the initiative no one
else will. The lesson to be learned here is not to wait for anyone to call
you back rather, follow up with them based on a time line that you deem
acceptable.

Best of success...






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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:41 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Cc: Pablo Morales; blindtech@groups.io; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com; 'The
Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Accessible education university in US

Hi all,

I am looking for a university where I can do online classes for Human
Resources Business administration and management in the US . I have been in
contact by phone with several universities but when I ask them about the
accessibility on their web sites, or accessibility in the books that I need
to buy for each class, then their answers ends. I have been in contact with
17 different universities online, and all of them said that the
accessibility department will call me back, but I have been waiting more
than one year for those calls.

Guys, are you studying in Universities online?

Does anybody know a university, where their online classes are accessible?

And also the books are accessible?

My wife is low vision, and she had a lot of accessibility problems in the
university where she was studying . I am totally blind, and I have no way to
study if I found a platform not accessible, or books not accessible either.

Does anybody here know system better, what I can do if I need to continue my
education after I lost my vision?

What are the accessible resources today?

Thanks for all,

P









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Re: Tunein Radio has all NFL and MLB for $7.95 a month with 10 day freetrial.

Brent Harding
 

They must have slipped the NFL stuff in there quietly. I thought all they had was MLB, audio books, and the rest of Tunein was the free stuff we all have for free with the site or app.

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Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 12:37 PM
Subject: Tunein Radio has all NFL and MLB for $7.95 a month with 10 day freetrial.


Hi All,

Back a few weeks ago, I asked what accessible web sites folks knew of that included NFL and MLB. It was mentioned how expensive and cumbersome the official MLB and NFL sites had become.

I even tried Sirius XM, the online service, but found that the NFL was not available with the online product, only if you had one of their receivers.

Today I went back to Tunein and discovered that with the $7.95 monthly premium package, you get a very clean interface to the live audio for each game. With either the tab key or going through the JAWS key plus F7 list, you just arrow down to the game you want and hit enter.

My apologies if I just did not understand that Tunein had just what I was hoping for. I wanted to pass this along in case others did not know.

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Re: Accessible education university in US

Greg Nickel
 

Pablo.

Each university has a specific department that coordinates all ADA related
issues between faculty, staff and student body. You need to ask for the
contact information of this specific department and engage of them directly.
Certainly, as you have experienced, if you don't take the initiative no one
else will. The lesson to be learned here is not to wait for anyone to call
you back rather, follow up with them based on a time line that you deem
acceptable.

Best of success...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:41 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Cc: Pablo Morales; blindtech@groups.io; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com; 'The
Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Accessible education university in US

Hi all,

I am looking for a university where I can do online classes for Human
Resources Business administration and management in the US . I have been in
contact by phone with several universities but when I ask them about the
accessibility on their web sites, or accessibility in the books that I need
to buy for each class, then their answers ends. I have been in contact with
17 different universities online, and all of them said that the
accessibility department will call me back, but I have been waiting more
than one year for those calls.

Guys, are you studying in Universities online?

Does anybody know a university, where their online classes are accessible?

And also the books are accessible?

My wife is low vision, and she had a lot of accessibility problems in the
university where she was studying . I am totally blind, and I have no way to
study if I found a platform not accessible, or books not accessible either.

Does anybody here know system better, what I can do if I need to continue my
education after I lost my vision?

What are the accessible resources today?

Thanks for all,

P









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Accessible education university in US

Pablo Morales
 

Hi all,

I am looking for a university where I can do online classes for Human
Resources Business administration and management in the US . I have been in
contact by phone with several universities but when I ask them about the
accessibility on their web sites, or accessibility in the books that I need
to buy for each class, then their answers ends. I have been in contact with
17 different universities online, and all of them said that the
accessibility department will call me back, but I have been waiting more
than one year for those calls.

Guys, are you studying in Universities online?

Does anybody know a university, where their online classes are accessible?

And also the books are accessible?

My wife is low vision, and she had a lot of accessibility problems in the
university where she was studying . I am totally blind, and I have no way to
study if I found a platform not accessible, or books not accessible either.

Does anybody here know system better, what I can do if I need to continue my
education after I lost my vision?

What are the accessible resources today?

Thanks for all,

P









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Tunein Radio has all NFL and MLB for $7.95 a month with 10 day free trial.

Tim Ford
 

Hi All,

Back a few weeks ago, I asked what accessible web sites folks knew of that included NFL and MLB. It was mentioned how expensive and cumbersome the official MLB and NFL sites had become.

I even tried Sirius XM, the online service, but found that the NFL was not available with the online product, only if you had one of their receivers.

Today I went back to Tunein and discovered that with the $7.95 monthly premium package, you get a very clean interface to the live audio for each game. With either the tab key or going through the JAWS key plus F7 list, you just arrow down to the game you want and hit enter.

My apologies if I just did not understand that Tunein had just what I was hoping for. I wanted to pass this along in case others did not know.

Tim Ford
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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Kimber Gardner
 

I'm not saying that the virtual ribbons don't have their uses, just
that I personally don't use that function. Regarding your question of
how many keystrokes we should need to remember, I don't use every
function in word every day, but I do remember the keystrokes for the
common functions (or the ones most common to me anyway). Also,
Microsoft does provide some pretty comprehensive keyboard
documentation on their web site.

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Well, I see a lot of advantages using the virtual ribbons, especially when
we are trying to teach someone how to use office with jaws. If we say to a
blind person that is not familiar with MS Excel, press tab repeatedly until
you hear "Calculate Sheet Button
It doesn't make any sense at all, they are not understanding where is it,
they are not understanding why this item is there, just they are
understanding that calculate formula button is something that is there, and
that they need to press tab many times until they hear calculate formula
button.
Now, it is very time consuming, and it reduces efficiency .
Of course, we can remember the keystrokes, but how many keystrokes do we
need to remember then?
Isn't it better that we have an idea about where something is, and we get
there with keystrokes, and just with up or down arrow we find what we need?
It is time consuming, but a lot less than pressing tab many times.
Moreover, if we are reading a manual, the manuals are created for sighted
people, they are going to say, go to clipboard and click on copy format,
the
manuals are not going to say press tab 16 times and press enter on copy
format.
I am not saying that virtual ribbons are great, because they are not that
great, but it is important to understand the structure of the ribbons, and
it would be good that we are allow to use keystrokes when we are using the
virtual ribbons, it will improve our efficiency a lot.
And efficiency is something that can give us a job, or not.



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Arnold
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Do you keep it on all? That is where mine is set.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For
anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with JAWS
key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to "access
keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is the
default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all"
was selected.

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Gardner
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?), then
jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons without
turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that lists all the
various ribbon commands and associated shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I am a
little type A that way. <g> I'd be glad to share this document with you if
you'd like. I don't use Excel enough to have a similar list, but I may get
around to making one up one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the
keystrokes associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the
ribbons, with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very
easy to get lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the
virtual ribbons on, the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I
don't know what is worse, if the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I
need to get to a place in the ribbon, I have no way to learn the
keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons and pressing tab
many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the
logic structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons
is very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons,
but the ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be
so efficient in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through
the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the
structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each
item on the ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I think that if someone could sort of break the ribbon code, that it
would make it easier for a lot of us, especially those of us who have
good memory recall most of the time. I know there has to be a sort of
pattern, just not on to it yet. It is amazing to me that with the market
going to the clickers that it is all available on the keyboard, or most
of it anyway.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Morales via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Well, I see a lot of advantages using the virtual ribbons, especially
when we are trying to teach someone how to use office with jaws. If we
say to a blind person that is not familiar with MS Excel, press tab
repeatedly until you hear "Calculate Sheet Button It doesn't make any
sense at all, they are not understanding where is it, they are not
understanding why this item is there, just they are understanding that
calculate formula button is something that is there, and that they need
to press tab many times until they hear calculate formula button.
Now, it is very time consuming, and it reduces efficiency .
Of course, we can remember the keystrokes, but how many keystrokes do we
need to remember then?
Isn't it better that we have an idea about where something is, and we
get there with keystrokes, and just with up or down arrow we find what we
need?
It is time consuming, but a lot less than pressing tab many times.
Moreover, if we are reading a manual, the manuals are created for sighted
people, they are going to say, go to clipboard and click on copy format,
the manuals are not going to say press tab 16 times and press enter on
copy format.
I am not saying that virtual ribbons are great, because they are not that
great, but it is important to understand the structure of the ribbons,
and it would be good that we are allow to use keystrokes when we are
using the virtual ribbons, it will improve our efficiency a lot.
And efficiency is something that can give us a job, or not.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:05 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Do you keep it on all? That is where mine is set.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For
anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with
JAWS
key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to
key+"access
keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is the
default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all"
was selected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?), then
jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons without
turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that lists all
the various ribbon commands and associated shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I
am a little type A that way. <g> I'd be glad to share this document with
you if you'd like. I don't use Excel enough to have a similar list, but I
may get around to making one up one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the
keystrokes associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the
ribbons, with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very
easy to get lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the
virtual ribbons on, the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I
don't know what is worse, if the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I
need to get to a place in the ribbon, I have no way to learn the
keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons and pressing tab
many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the
logic structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons
is very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons,
but the ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be
so efficient in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through
the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the
structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each
item on the ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Pablo Morales
 

Well, I see a lot of advantages using the virtual ribbons, especially when
we are trying to teach someone how to use office with jaws. If we say to a
blind person that is not familiar with MS Excel, press tab repeatedly until
you hear "Calculate Sheet Button
It doesn't make any sense at all, they are not understanding where is it,
they are not understanding why this item is there, just they are
understanding that calculate formula button is something that is there, and
that they need to press tab many times until they hear calculate formula
button.
Now, it is very time consuming, and it reduces efficiency .
Of course, we can remember the keystrokes, but how many keystrokes do we
need to remember then?
Isn't it better that we have an idea about where something is, and we get
there with keystrokes, and just with up or down arrow we find what we need?
It is time consuming, but a lot less than pressing tab many times.
Moreover, if we are reading a manual, the manuals are created for sighted
people, they are going to say, go to clipboard and click on copy format, the
manuals are not going to say press tab 16 times and press enter on copy
format.
I am not saying that virtual ribbons are great, because they are not that
great, but it is important to understand the structure of the ribbons, and
it would be good that we are allow to use keystrokes when we are using the
virtual ribbons, it will improve our efficiency a lot.
And efficiency is something that can give us a job, or not.

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Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Do you keep it on all? That is where mine is set.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For
anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with JAWS
key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to "access
keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is the
default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all"
was selected.

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?), then
jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons without
turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that lists all the
various ribbon commands and associated shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I am a
little type A that way. <g> I'd be glad to share this document with you if
you'd like. I don't use Excel enough to have a similar list, but I may get
around to making one up one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the
keystrokes associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the
ribbons, with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very
easy to get lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the
virtual ribbons on, the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I
don't know what is worse, if the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I
need to get to a place in the ribbon, I have no way to learn the
keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons and pressing tab
many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the
logic structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons
is very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons,
but the ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be
so efficient in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through
the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the
structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each
item on the ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Adrian Spratt
 

Mike B just noted that once in the ribbon, you can get JAWS to repeat a key tip, or shortcut, by pressing JAWS key+tab. There'll be extraneous verbalization, but then the shortcut is announced.

One more note. I tested the ribbon shortcut to open a file in Word, which is alt, f, o. Normally, I just press control-o, the true shortcut. But following the JAWS key tip, I pressed alt, waited for JAWS to announce where I'd landed, then f, paused again, then o. The "open" dialog appeared. So when I said earlier that the tips aren't reliable, it may be that I just needed to be more patient.

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Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with JAWS key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to "access keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is the default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all" was selected.

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Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?),
then jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons
without turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that
lists all the various ribbon commands and associated
shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I am a little type A that way. <g> I'd be
glad to share this document with you if you'd like. I don't use Excel
enough to have a similar list, but I may get around to making one up
one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the keystrokes
associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the ribbons,
with
the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very easy to get lost
navigating with the tab key only. But with the virtual ribbons on, the
keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I don't know what is worse, if the
virtual ribbons on or off. But if I need to get to a place in the ribbon, I
have no way to learn the keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons
and pressing tab many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the logic
structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons is
very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons, but the
ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be so efficient
in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through the
virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the structure
of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each item on the
ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Adrian Spratt
 

Yes.

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Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Do you keep it on all? That is where mine is set.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For
anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with
JAWS key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to
"access keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is
the default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all"
was selected.

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Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?), then
jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons without
turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that lists all
the various ribbon commands and associated shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I
am a little type A that way. <g> I'd be glad to share this document with
you if you'd like. I don't use Excel enough to have a similar list, but I
may get around to making one up one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the
keystrokes associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the
ribbons, with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very
easy to get lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the
virtual ribbons on, the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I
don't know what is worse, if the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I
need to get to a place in the ribbon, I have no way to learn the
keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons and pressing tab
many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the
logic structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons
is very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons,
but the ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be
so efficient in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through
the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the
structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each
item on the ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

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Do you keep it on all? That is where mine is set.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For
anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with
JAWS key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to
"access keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is
the default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all"
was selected.

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Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?), then
jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons without
turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that lists all
the various ribbon commands and associated shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I
am a little type A that way. <g> I'd be glad to share this document with
you if you'd like. I don't use Excel enough to have a similar list, but I
may get around to making one up one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the
keystrokes associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the
ribbons, with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very
easy to get lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the
virtual ribbons on, the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I
don't know what is worse, if the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I
need to get to a place in the ribbon, I have no way to learn the
keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons and pressing tab
many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the
logic structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons
is very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons,
but the ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be
so efficient in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through
the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the
structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each
item on the ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Adrian Spratt
 

Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with JAWS key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to "access keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is the default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all" was selected.

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Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?),
then jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons
without turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that
lists all the various ribbon commands and associated
shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I am a little type A that way. <g> I'd be
glad to share this document with you if you'd like. I don't use Excel
enough to have a similar list, but I may get around to making one up
one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the keystrokes
associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the ribbons,
with
the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very easy to get lost
navigating with the tab key only. But with the virtual ribbons on, the
keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I don't know what is worse, if the
virtual ribbons on or off. But if I need to get to a place in the ribbon, I
have no way to learn the keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons
and pressing tab many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the logic
structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons is
very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons, but the
ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be so efficient
in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through the
virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the structure
of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each item on the
ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?),
then jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons
without turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that
lists all the various ribbon commands and associated
shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I am a little type A that way. <g> I'd be
glad to share this document with you if you'd like. I don't use Excel
enough to have a similar list, but I may get around to making one up
one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the keystrokes
associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the ribbons,
with
the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very easy to get lost
navigating with the tab key only. But with the virtual ribbons on, the
keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I don't know what is worse, if the
virtual ribbons on or off. But if I need to get to a place in the ribbon, I
have no way to learn the keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons
and pressing tab many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the logic
structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons is
very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons, but the
ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be so efficient
in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through the
virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the structure
of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each item on the
ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

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Thanks for that idea, Pablo. I will start a folder with keystrokes
specific to the ribbon menus. I am thinking that if I get familiar enough
with them that some sort of pattern will emerge.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Hi, Pablo.

I have Office 2010. There are three ways I work with or around the
ribbons:

1. Use shortcuts wherever possible when I remember them. control-c for
copy is an obvious one. There are many. If you don't already have a list
of keyboard shortcuts, you can locate more than one with a Google search.

2. You may have noticed that as you tab through the ribbons, JAWS
verbalizes individual letters at many functions. They tell you which
letters to press in order to go directly to those functions in the
future. I admit they can be a little misleading. Specifically, one
sequence might begin "h," when it really means alt-h, followed by the
non-alt letters it identifies. Still, with this limitation in mind, they
are a help.

3. Explore the ribbons with the objective of figuring out how they're
organized. The one that's best laid out in Word 2010 is the alt-f "file
menu." After pressing alt-f, instead of beginning by tabbing, arrow down
through what is a general list. Once you've absorbed the list, tab from
any item that interests you for specifics.

I maintain a Word document that I constantly update where I list
functions and shortcuts, along with tricks of the trade. If I haven't yet
memorized a shortcut, this document enables me to find it with a quick
search.

I hope this gives you a slightly more positive approach to the ribbons.


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Cc: Pablo Morales; TechTalk@groups.io; blindtech@groups.io
Subject: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the keystrokes
associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the ribbons,
with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very easy to get
lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the virtual ribbons on,
the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I don't know what is worse, if
the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I need to get to a place in the
ribbon, I have no way to learn the keystrokes, only deactivating the
virtual ribbons and pressing tab many many times, and probably getting
lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the
logic structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons is
very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons, but the
ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be so
efficient in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through
the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the
structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each
item on the ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: Using Jaws with Visual Studio 2013 and Visual Micro for Arduino

John Pocs <jpocs@...>
 

Sending the link one more time.
Somehow the previous ones get broken and take you to a sign in page instead.
Hope this one is going to work.
If it doesn't work, try to copy the link and paste in your browser.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2013/12/11/making-visual-studio

John

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Sorry the previous link is not the right one.
Here is the right one:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2013/12/11/making-visual-studio
-accessible.aspx

John

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Hello E. Sakthivel,

I don't know of any tutorial about Jaws with Visual Studio, but there is an
Accessability teanm at Microsoft that is commited to make Visual Studio
compatible with Jaws.
Please check out the link below
You can find some good information here.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2013/12/11/making-visual-studio
-accessible.aspx

Good luck,

John

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Subject: Re: Using Jaws with Visual Studio 2013 and Visual Micro for Arduino

you have tutorial for visual studio with jaws note.
Please send me.
I am search for this subject. Because I want work visual basic, visual c,
visual C++ and visual c# net software using JAWS software.




On 10/8/15, John Pocs via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi all,



I'm using Jaws 16 with Visual Studio 2013 and Visual Micro Arduino
plug in extension.

Some of the combo boxes do not open the lists when pressing ALT+Down
arrow.

This might be application related or perhaps script related.

By the way, Visual Studio 2013 uses the script file for the 2010
version and there is no newer one in Jaws 16.

Is there anyone using this development environment and perhaps can
provide some feedback?

Thanks,



John



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