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Re: researcher.

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

wait one second for pressing r. Now works well for me beta 13.

-----Original Message-----
From: chris hallsworth
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

No. I am having the same problem on Windows 7 32 bit.


Chris Hallsworth
Sent from Thunderbird

On 17/09/2011 20:54, Farfar on Laptop wrote:
Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo"<holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Re: researcher.

chris hallsworth <christopherh40@...>
 

No. I am having the same problem on Windows 7 32 bit.


Chris Hallsworth
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On 17/09/2011 20:54, Farfar on Laptop wrote:
Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo"<holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Re: Research It

chris hallsworth <christopherh40@...>
 

Yes. It is still possible to open Research It from insert-f2, r, enter.


Chris Hallsworth
Sent from Thunderbird

On 17/09/2011 21:15, Adrian Spratt wrote:
In JAWS 12 you can also get to Research It by pressing insert-F2, which
brings up a list of choices. Press r, then enter, and you'll be taken into
Research It. Does this still apply in JAWS 13? If so, it might be an
alternative sequence that works for some users.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo"<holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Re: Jaws 13 beta .

chris hallsworth <christopherh40@...>
 

Do you mean jfw.exe or j13.0.097-32bit.exe or j13.0.097-64bit.exe.


Chris Hallsworth
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On 17/09/2011 21:16, Dennis Dumas wrote:
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Re: beta13

Dave...
 

Gee. That's what every single one of us was telling you to do all the time.
I guess we're not so stupid, after all?

A little patience and listening goes a long way, young man.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 13:31
Subject: beta13


It fix. I got it to work. I just made sure when I press space and insert to
wait 1 second to press r.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: Research It

Dave...
 

Adrian,

Yes, JAWS 13 still works that way, as well. (Yes I've taken the plunge).
Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 13:15
Subject: RE: Research It


In JAWS 12 you can also get to Research It by pressing insert-F2, which
brings up a list of choices. Press r, then enter, and you'll be taken into
Research It. Does this still apply in JAWS 13? If so, it might be an
alternative sequence that works for some users.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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beta13

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

It fix. I got it to work. I just made sure when I press space and insert to wait 1 second to press r.

Holger Fiallo
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removing hyperlinks from word documents with JAWS

Starner, Alicia <astarner@...>
 

Hello All,

I am preparing the reference page to a paper in APA format, and one of the
sources I used is an online article. When I typed out the citation there is
a hyperlink present. How do I get rid of this hyperlink with JAWS? I am
using JAWS 12 (latest build) with Word 2010. I also have a machine with Word
2007 handy. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Alicia

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Research It

In JAWS 12 you can also get to Research It by pressing insert-F2, which
brings up a list of choices. Press r, then enter, and you'll be taken into
Research It. Does this still apply in JAWS 13? If so, it might be an
alternative sequence that works for some users.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space followed
by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Re: researcher.

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

Yes. Yet when I do the same thing with jaws 12, it works there. So what I do with beta 13.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

Holger, you're definitely doing something wrong. When I press
numpad insert plus the letter R, I hear "not available in PC".
That's the same message you're hearing when trying to bring up
ResearchIt, is it not?
Insert+R toggles cursor restriction between six levels.

I still think you're not letting the insert key up and then pressing R.

Try this.
1. Press insert+1 to turn keyboard help on.
2. press insert+space bar and let both keys up.
3. After you hear the lower and higher pitched click sounds, press
the letter R. Keyboard help should say:
"Research It on the word or phrase you type in the edit field."
4. Press insert+1 again to turn keyboard help off.

Chris


At 03:54 PM 9/17/2011, you wrote:
Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Jaws 13 beta .

Dennis Dumas
 

What is the executable file name for Jaws 13 beta? Thanks in advance Dennis.


Re: Unassisted windows 7 install

Dennis Brown
 

Can you give the subscribe info addresses to those alternate lists for this topic, if the moderator doesn't mind?

Thanks,
Dennis Brown

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Unassisted windows 7 install


yea well dude moderate and block folks all you wish, I'm outa here

folks if you want info I have you can contact me on the blind access help list, the blind geek zone list, the windows 7 and 8 lists, and the jfw users list

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <james@the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install


Thank you for reopening this thread after I've requested it be closed. Thank
you for not sending your email off-list to the member who originated the
thread, as you were instructed. Until you can learn to follow instructions,
you can also sit on moderated status.

James,
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles
Sent: September 14, 2011 6:30 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install

Well, actually, I am interested in creating an unassisted windows install,
as quite truly, There may come a time whare I might need to reinstall it.
Saying that this has nothing to do with jaws is not true. JAWS may not
come preinstalled like VoiceOver, but that has little to do with JAWS users
needing the help. Now, I used N Lite to create my answer file, and burned
my copy of windows to a disc like you're supposed to. What is supposed to
happen if the install worked, and what should I do after I insert the CD.
Also, what about the boot file inside the original CD?
Thanks,
Darrell

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:18 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install

Well, on the bright side, I don't need to explain to you why you've just
made the moderated list. Thank you for playing.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: September-13-11 6:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install

James,

This seems like a heavy-handed solution to a thread that was seeing valuable
input from a lot of folks.

Frankly, someone else said "Chill" and I have to agree with them.

Ben

At 05:40 PM 9/13/2011, you wrote:
Your opinion is noted. This thread has been closed. If you want to
continue to take issue with it, mail me directly.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: September 13, 2011 5:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Unassisted windows 7 install

James, no offence but do you think if I wasn't a jaws user I would have
subscribed to this list just to ask this question? Yes I get what you
are saying installing windows doesn't automatically mean you're going
to install jaws but I've been on this list for a long time now and
wouldn't have been if I wasn't a jaws user. My personal opinion is that
people mustn't even open mails if the topic doesn't concern them, if I
have to open every mail coming from this list I'll go crazy.

On 9/13/11, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
The instalation of Windows, while yes is a prerequisit for the
instalation of JAWS, does not automatically lead to the instalation
of JAWS. It also
has
nothing to do with the overall functioning or operation of JAWS, due
to
the
fact that during that process, JAWS cannot and does not exist.
Therefore, this thread does not apply. You may discuss it if you
wish, however, off-list.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: September 13, 2011 5:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install

I believe this is a JAWS issue and here's why:

Because JAWS does not come pre-loaded in a Windows install like
Voiceover does, there is a "bootstrapping" process that one must
endeavor to repeat in order to install Windows so that JAWS can then
be installed.

Generally, I'm in favor of keeping the list on topic, especially
when folks abuse the priviledge. But I don't think this is the case
here and there seems to be widespread interest in the topic, as it's
a situation faced by every JAWS user sooner or later.

Or so it seems to me.

Ben


At 12:57 PM 9/13/2011, you wrote:
This isn't a jaws issue, please take it to a more appropriate list
like blindtech.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Unassisted windows 7 install

Hi want to find out if it's possible to install windows 7 without
sighted assistance? Can you switch on narrator or something with
some keystroke?

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Re: Research It

Adrian Spratt
 

In JAWS 12 you can also get to Research It by pressing insert-F2, which
brings up a list of choices. Press r, then enter, and you'll be taken into
Research It. Does this still apply in JAWS 13? If so, it might be an
alternative sequence that works for some users.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Re: researcher.

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

I know. It works well when I go to jaws 12. I am trying to see if those who have window seven home 32 aand beta 13.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:54 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Re: researcher.

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Holger, you're definitely doing something wrong. When I press numpad insert plus the letter R, I hear "not available in PC". That's the same message you're hearing when trying to bring up ResearchIt, is it not?
Insert+R toggles cursor restriction between six levels.

I still think you're not letting the insert key up and then pressing R.

Try this.
1. Press insert+1 to turn keyboard help on.
2. press insert+space bar and let both keys up.
3. After you hear the lower and higher pitched click sounds, press the letter R. Keyboard help should say:
"Research It on the word or phrase you type in the edit field."
4. Press insert+1 again to turn keyboard help off.

Chris

At 03:54 PM 9/17/2011, you wrote:
Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Re: Unassisted windows 7 install

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

yea well dude moderate and block folks all you wish, I'm outa here

folks if you want info I have you can contact me on the blind access help list, the blind geek zone list, the windows 7 and 8 lists, and the jfw users list

inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <james@the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install


Thank you for reopening this thread after I've requested it be closed. Thank
you for not sending your email off-list to the member who originated the
thread, as you were instructed. Until you can learn to follow instructions,
you can also sit on moderated status.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles
Sent: September 14, 2011 6:30 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install

Well, actually, I am interested in creating an unassisted windows install,
as quite truly, There may come a time whare I might need to reinstall it.
Saying that this has nothing to do with jaws is not true. JAWS may not
come preinstalled like VoiceOver, but that has little to do with JAWS users
needing the help. Now, I used N Lite to create my answer file, and burned
my copy of windows to a disc like you're supposed to. What is supposed to
happen if the install worked, and what should I do after I insert the CD.
Also, what about the boot file inside the original CD?
Thanks,
Darrell

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:18 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install

Well, on the bright side, I don't need to explain to you why you've just
made the moderated list. Thank you for playing.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: September-13-11 6:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install

James,

This seems like a heavy-handed solution to a thread that was seeing valuable
input from a lot of folks.

Frankly, someone else said "Chill" and I have to agree with them.

Ben

At 05:40 PM 9/13/2011, you wrote:
Your opinion is noted. This thread has been closed. If you want to
continue to take issue with it, mail me directly.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: September 13, 2011 5:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Unassisted windows 7 install

James, no offence but do you think if I wasn't a jaws user I would have
subscribed to this list just to ask this question? Yes I get what you
are saying installing windows doesn't automatically mean you're going
to install jaws but I've been on this list for a long time now and
wouldn't have been if I wasn't a jaws user. My personal opinion is that
people mustn't even open mails if the topic doesn't concern them, if I
have to open every mail coming from this list I'll go crazy.

On 9/13/11, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
The instalation of Windows, while yes is a prerequisit for the
instalation of JAWS, does not automatically lead to the instalation
of JAWS. It also
has
nothing to do with the overall functioning or operation of JAWS, due
to
the
fact that during that process, JAWS cannot and does not exist.
Therefore, this thread does not apply. You may discuss it if you
wish, however, off-list.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: September 13, 2011 5:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Unassisted windows 7 install

I believe this is a JAWS issue and here's why:

Because JAWS does not come pre-loaded in a Windows install like
Voiceover does, there is a "bootstrapping" process that one must
endeavor to repeat in order to install Windows so that JAWS can then
be installed.

Generally, I'm in favor of keeping the list on topic, especially
when folks abuse the priviledge. But I don't think this is the case
here and there seems to be widespread interest in the topic, as it's
a situation faced by every JAWS user sooner or later.

Or so it seems to me.

Ben


At 12:57 PM 9/13/2011, you wrote:
This isn't a jaws issue, please take it to a more appropriate list
like blindtech.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Unassisted windows 7 install

Hi want to find out if it's possible to install windows 7 without
sighted assistance? Can you switch on narrator or something with
some keystroke?

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Re: researcher.

Dave...
 

Holger,

Works just fine here. Installed JAWS 13 beta, with XP Pro 32-bit and works
just fine.

Remember:

The correct key sequence is to hold the Insert and the space keys down
together until you hear the click sound.
Then you release those two keys
Then you press the letter r by itself.

You've got to be doing something wrong if everyone else is having success
and you are the only one not.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:47
Subject: Re: researcher.


Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message-----
From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit" works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
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Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
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Re: research it

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

I I know how to do it. It is not working for my PC with window seven home 32 and beta 13.

-----Original Message-----
From: john.falter
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:22 PM
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Subject: Re: research it

Works on my XP home with JAWS 13.
Both JAWSKEY plus space bar and JAWSKEY plus F2 then R.


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Re: researcher.

robert hebert <roberthebert@...>
 

Improper, misleading or even subject lines from a different thread
altogether have been an issue on this list for years. I think that troll
under the bridge has been catnapping quite a bit lately--and a good thing
too!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-17-11 11:44 AM
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Subject: RE: researcher.

Magoo, you neglected to edit the subject line as well.
So when precisely does the troll under the bridge get some sleep?

At 02:36 PM 9/17/2011, you wrote:
this guy chris has been replying for several days with it called
that in the
subject now today desided to correct it go figure

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 07:40
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

OK. The point is that it does not work in my PC. Check if I made a
mistake
with my spelling and let me know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

it's called ResearchIt not Researcher.

At 06:47 AM 9/17/2011, you wrote:
Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message----- From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit"
works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available
for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Re: researcher.

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Magoo, you neglected to edit the subject line as well.
So when precisely does the troll under the bridge get some sleep?

At 02:36 PM 9/17/2011, you wrote:
this guy chris has been replying for several days with it called that in the
subject now today desided to correct it go figure

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 07:40
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

OK. The point is that it does not work in my PC. Check if I made a
mistake
with my spelling and let me know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

it's called ResearchIt not Researcher.

At 06:47 AM 9/17/2011, you wrote:
Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message----- From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit"
works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available
for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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Re: researcher.

George B
 

this guy chris has been replying for several days with it called that in the
subject now today desided to correct it go figure

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 07:40
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

OK. The point is that it does not work in my PC. Check if I made a
mistake
with my spelling and let me know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

it's called ResearchIt not Researcher.

At 06:47 AM 9/17/2011, you wrote:
Does not work for beta. That is why I put in the subject beta.

-----Original Message----- From: robert hebert
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: researcher.

Usually a critic of these copycat type messages, but "researchit"
works
great using Jaws 12 with a windows 64-bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: September-15-11 5:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: researcher.

works fine here with Jaws 12.
It's not all three keys pressed simultaneously; it's JawsKey+Space
followed by R.

Chris

At 08:03 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hi, all
I tried to do insert space r but got message not available for PC.
Does anyone else get the same message? I let FS know.
Holger Fiallo
Kind Regard
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