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Outlook check contact name

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

Hi Carolyn. I'm afraid this got buried in the discussion thread regarding
the virtual ribbon.

The MS Outlook shortcut to check names is CONTROL + K. It will pop up with a
list of names from your contacts that match the few letters you've typed in
so far.

Hope that helps.
-Paul

-----Original Message-----
Speaking of the ribbons, do yall know what commands I execute to check
names on contact list, not search, so that when I start an e-mail and
press Alt
Period, the names will appear?

Best from,

Carolyn


Re: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

I train people on the use of JAWS. Some of my clients come to me with a
rudimentary knowledge of a few of the MS ribbon UI shortcuts, as they have
previously used Window Eyes or NVDA. But their training is not complete, and
there are many MS ribbon UI shortcuts they don't know. Plus, they readily
admit that they think the ribbon UI is perhaps MS's worst design choice in
the history of computer user interfaces.

For these clients, I'd love to show them how the virtual ribbon interface
works, as it is much more like the traditional menu / submenu interface that
has dominated computing for decades, and still dominates Linux and OSX
platforms, basically everything except MS Office. When I turn on the virtual
ribbon, they almost universally prefer it to how they've been using the
ribbon UI previously.

However, they are woefully disappointed to learn that the few MS ribbon UI
commands they are familiar with, immediately cease to function as soon as
the virtual ribbon is enabled. This makes the transition difficult for them.
If only there were a hotkey to enable or disable the virtual ribbon, so that
they could easily switch back to the old interface until they figure out how
to do the same thing in the virtual ribbon. How many times I've heard this
from my clients, I can't tell you.

A hotkey to enable / disable the virtual ribbon would really ease the
transition from the MS ribbon UI to the JAWS virtual ribbon.
-Paul

-----Original Message-----
And I for one see no point in being able to switch back/forth between them
as a toggle function; you either use them or you don't. But that's just my
opinion, which is subject to criticism.\

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer


Re: Using JAWS & Dragon Naturally Speaking at the same time

HAMILTON
 

In terms of ease of use, is the J-Say product different, in any way, from
Dragon Naturally Speaking? Also, how do the prices compare?

Thanks.

Jim H

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Subject: RE: Using JAWS & Dragon Naturally Speaking at the same time

Hi Again Tom,

I use this combination with the J-Say product from Hartgen Consultancy.
With J-Say, dictation is echoed automatically. I did need to lower my
resolution on my Surface Pro, as the default setting was too high, and
dictation was not echoed. Once making this adjustment, it works well.

Les

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Subject: Using JAWS & Dragon Naturally Speaking at the same time

Is anyone using JAWS & Dragon Naturally Speaking at the same time? Is it
worth it? How well do they work together?

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Re: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Daniel, if you go into JAWS Verbosity, Insert V. Arrow down about 17 times.
You'll get to Virtual ribbon. I think that default is unchecked. Mine is
unchecked, and I intend to leave it that way. I tried checking it, and
didn't seem to manage as well. Four weeks ago, I made the big leap from XP,
Outlook Express and Office 2003 to Windows 10, Outlook 2013 and Office 2013.
I have said that I've fooled with enough ribbons to make one mighty bow.

Best from,

Carolyn

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via Jfw
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Cc: Daniel McBride <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Dave:

Quite honestly, I do not know if I have been functioning with Virtual
Ribbons, or not.

Up to September of 2011, I was using Windows XP with Microsoft Office and
JAWS 4.5. My current desktop, purchased 4 years ago, has Windows 7 and I
have Microsoft Office 2010 with JAWS 14. During these 4 years, I have never
disabled, nor enabled, Virtual Ribbons. Whatever the default setting is when
you install JAWS is what I have been functioning with.

Even after you, and others, have replied to my inquiry, I still do not know
what Virtual Ribbons is or what it does or does not do. Probably never will.
However, I will not quit trying.

Thanks so much for your reply.

Daniel

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:21 PM
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Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Daniel,

The Virtual Ribbon gives the look and feel of the traditional menu structure
that existed before the Ribbon was introduced. It is a band-aid approach to
hiding the Ribbon behind a similar interface. However the Virtual ribbon
does not have the quick key capability that existed in the old traditional
menus, so it's not an exact replacement. If you've become familiar with the
Ribbon structure, you're probably better off not bothering with the virtual
ribbon.

Another problem is that if you should be using another computer for a time,
such as in a library, and you are using virtual ribbons, you're going to be
hampered by not having that crutch available. And the virtual ribbon is only
a JAWS artifact, so NVDA and Window-Eyes would not have it, to the best of
my knowledge.

And I for one see no point in being able to switch back/forth between them
as a toggle function; you either use them or you don't. But that's just my
opinion, which is subject to criticism.\

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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Subject: RE: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager


Just curious. What is the function of the Virtual Ribbons. Why would someone
want Virtual Ribbons on, and why would someone want Virtual Ribbons off? I
have never understood Virtual Ribbons and what it does.

Daniel

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:30 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Pablo, if you'll go Insertt for JAWS Verbosity. Arrow way down past to User
Beginning or Intermediate or Advanced, right or not far after that, you'll
come to Virtual Ribbon. You can check or uncheck it, whichever you prefer.
windows-10-and-jaws@yahoogroups.co.in

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Subject: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

I read the instructions to switch the echo level, and those instructions
were very good.
Now I am trying to use a keystroke to switch the use of virtual ribbons,
but when I look for use of virtual ribbons or something like that, it
doesn't appear in the default list. There is a way to switch the virtual
ribbons on or off through a keystroke?
Maybe through a script, but I have no idea what is the function to switch
the virtual ribbon function on/off.
Thanks for any help.



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Re: Using JAWS & Dragon Naturally Speaking at the same time

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Again Tom,

I use this combination with the J-Say product from Hartgen Consultancy.
With J-Say, dictation is echoed automatically. I did need to lower my
resolution on my Surface Pro, as the default setting was too high, and
dictation was not echoed. Once making this adjustment, it works well.

Les

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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 12:30 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Tom Corboy <corboy71@gmail.com>
Subject: Using JAWS & Dragon Naturally Speaking at the same time

Is anyone using JAWS & Dragon Naturally Speaking at the same time? Is it
worth it? How well do they work together?

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Re: JAWS on a Microsoft Surface Pro

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Tom, I run Jaws on a Surface Pro Three and it works fine. I'm using the
Vocalizer Expressive synthesizer which is quite responsive. I've had my
Surface for about 9 months and have been very pleased with its performance
with Jaws and Windows 8.1.

Les

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Subject: JAWS on a Microsoft Surface Pro

I just bought JAWS for the first time and someone suggested using it on a
Microsoft Surface Pro 3. Has anyone done this? Does JAWS work as well and as
quickly as it does on a laptop? Thanks,
Tom

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JAWS on a Microsoft Surface Pro

Tom Corboy <corboy71@...>
 

I just bought JAWS for the first time and someone suggested using it on a Microsoft Surface Pro 3. Has anyone done this? Does JAWS work as well and as quickly as it does on a laptop? Thanks,
Tom

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Using JAWS & Dragon Naturally Speaking at the same time

Tom Corboy <corboy71@...>
 

Is anyone using JAWS & Dragon Naturally Speaking at the same time? Is it worth it? How well do they work together?

Sent from my iPhone


Re: language question

HAMILTON
 

Well, on my system, Judith, jump, Jack and Jill (not to mention my name,
"Jim") all start with the sound of the "regular j". In other words, the
"j"s in each name make the same sound for me. In prior/below messages on
this subject, you may have noted that "zj", as in "zjeanne" and "zjanne",
was used effectively, by a couple of people, for the "soft j" sound; but,
that does not work on my system. For me, it sounds like 2 sylables.

Clearly, this is something for which anyone, with this specific/similar
issue, will have to find a solution that works for her/him. This seems to
be related to everyone having, at least slightly, different computing/sound
devices, software, synthacizers and other such things, as part of their
configurations.

In other words, we're on our own, on this type of thing at least.

Jim H

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Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 8:27 AM
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Cc: j Bron <jbron@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: language question

I think with the soft J Jaws says it well on its own. It says my name,
Judith, without my having to play with the dictionary. Words like jump,
jack and jill all come out fine.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:39 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: language question

I am glad to hear that this works in your JAWS Dictionairy. However, when I
read, with JAWS, "Zjanne", I hear the "Z"; it's almost another sylable. At
least, this is how it sounds on my Windows 8.1, I-7, 64-git system, using
J16.

Of course, I would really be pleased if someone could tell us how to "mimic"
the "soft J" sound.

Jim H

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Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:01 PM
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Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: language question

Nice. This is the first one that works for my synthesizer. I'd only suggest
that you remove the first 'e" to get the right French vowel:

Zjanne

I'm adding it to my JAWS dictionary.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 5:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Nicole Massey
Subject: RE: language question

Zjeanne might work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Hamilton via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: language question

I too know someone by the name, Jeanne. It is almost impossible to
get the "soft" J sound. The closest that I have been able to come,
with her name, is "jian". The sound is correct, except for the
slightly harder "J" sound. At least, I recognize her name, and it's
much better than "Jeannie", or "Janine".
Give it a try.

Jim H

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Arnold via Jfw
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: language question

I suggested Zjawn, but that Jeanne is pronounced like Jee Ann by JAWS.
I have a French Canadian friend, Jeanne, who will tell you that her
name is pronounced Zjawn.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Cc: Nicole Massey <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
Subject: RE: language question

I'd probably tell it to pronounce it as zhahn or zhauhn. Thought it's
going to have difficulty in differentiating it from when it talks
about Jean Stapleton or the actress Jean Simmons, not to mention of
any blue jean pants or skirts.

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Streeter via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:54 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Sandra Streeter
Subject: language question

Hi, all:

Is there a way to get JAWS to replicate the French soft J sound, as
in
"Jean Valjean"? I was trying to change its pronunciation of that
name in the dictionary manager program, but couldn't get it to
pronounce
it
as I knew it should be pronounced. Any pointers, appreciated! Thanks!



Sandra
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Re: youtube tips

Marianne Denning
 

I do produce Youtube videos and it is always a number. If you want
people to find your video you can use some of the identifiers so they
can find it or email the link directly to them.

On 9/6/15, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Does anyone have experience working with youtube. For example, creating a
youtube channel, and out of curiosity, when creating the channel, will it
say youtube.com/ the channel name, or just a bunch of random letters and
numbers after the youtube.com slash.



Any experiences would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: language question

judith bron
 

I think with the soft J Jaws says it well on its own. It says my name,
Judith, without my having to play with the dictionary. Words like jump,
jack and jill all come out fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:39 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: language question

I am glad to hear that this works in your JAWS Dictionairy. However, when I
read, with JAWS, "Zjanne", I hear the "Z"; it's almost another sylable. At
least, this is how it sounds on my Windows 8.1, I-7, 64-git system, using
J16.

Of course, I would really be pleased if someone could tell us how to "mimic"
the "soft J" sound.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: language question

Nice. This is the first one that works for my synthesizer. I'd only suggest
that you remove the first 'e" to get the right French vowel:

Zjanne

I'm adding it to my JAWS dictionary.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 5:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Nicole Massey
Subject: RE: language question

Zjeanne might work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Hamilton via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: language question

I too know someone by the name, Jeanne. It is almost impossible to
get the "soft" J sound. The closest that I have been able to come,
with her name, is "jian". The sound is correct, except for the
slightly harder "J" sound. At least, I recognize her name, and it's
much better than "Jeannie", or "Janine".
Give it a try.

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 3:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: language question

I suggested Zjawn, but that Jeanne is pronounced like Jee Ann by JAWS.
I have a French Canadian friend, Jeanne, who will tell you that her
name is pronounced Zjawn.

Best from,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 10:03 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Nicole Massey <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
Subject: RE: language question

I'd probably tell it to pronounce it as zhahn or zhauhn. Thought it's
going to have difficulty in differentiating it from when it talks
about Jean Stapleton or the actress Jean Simmons, not to mention of
any blue jean pants or skirts.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sandra
Streeter via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:54 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Sandra Streeter
Subject: language question

Hi, all:

Is there a way to get JAWS to replicate the French soft J sound, as
in
"Jean Valjean"? I was trying to change its pronunciation of that
name in the dictionary manager program, but couldn't get it to
pronounce
it
as I knew it should be pronounced. Any pointers, appreciated! Thanks!



Sandra
"To love another person is to se the face of God."
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Re: youtube tips

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

With youtube in that respect is duable for me, but so far after playing on
youtube itself with an account created, I have figured out how to upload a
video, but it's the name of the channel I'm trying to fix I created.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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Subject: RE: youtube tips

My only experience working with youtube is just searching for a particular
song, kind of music, or some funny clip, etc. I enjoy listening to the free
music without dealing with Pandora. The only problem listening to their
music is the ads, however; sometimes, I am able to find the "skip ad"
button.

Barbara H.

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Re: youtube tips

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

My only experience working with youtube is just searching for a particular
song, kind of music, or some funny clip, etc. I enjoy listening to the free
music without dealing with Pandora. The only problem listening to their
music is the ads, however; sometimes, I am able to find the "skip ad"
button.

Barbara H.

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youtube tips

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Does anyone have experience working with youtube. For example, creating a
youtube channel, and out of curiosity, when creating the channel, will it
say youtube.com/ the channel name, or just a bunch of random letters and
numbers after the youtube.com slash.



Any experiences would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: language question

HAMILTON
 

I am glad to hear that this works in your JAWS Dictionairy. However, when I
read, with JAWS, "Zjanne", I hear the "Z"; it's almost another sylable. At
least, this is how it sounds on my Windows 8.1, I-7, 64-git system, using
J16.

Of course, I would really be pleased if someone could tell us how to "mimic"
the "soft J" sound.

Jim H

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Nice. This is the first one that works for my synthesizer. I'd only suggest
that you remove the first 'e" to get the right French vowel:

Zjanne

I'm adding it to my JAWS dictionary.

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Zjeanne might work.

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I too know someone by the name, Jeanne. It is almost impossible to get
the "soft" J sound. The closest that I have been able to come, with
her name, is "jian". The sound is correct, except for the slightly
harder "J" sound. At least, I recognize her name, and it's much better
than "Jeannie", or "Janine".
Give it a try.

Jim H

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I suggested Zjawn, but that Jeanne is pronounced like Jee Ann by JAWS.
I have a French Canadian friend, Jeanne, who will tell you that her
name is pronounced Zjawn.

Best from,

Carolyn

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I'd probably tell it to pronounce it as zhahn or zhauhn. Thought it's
going to have difficulty in differentiating it from when it talks about
Jean Stapleton or the actress Jean Simmons, not to mention of any blue
jean pants or skirts.

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Hi, all:

Is there a way to get JAWS to replicate the French soft J sound, as
in
"Jean Valjean"? I was trying to change its pronunciation of that name
in the dictionary manager program, but couldn't get it to pronounce
it
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Re: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

HAMILTON
 

This is the first, clear, not to mention short and concise, answer I have
seen to "why ribbon menus". Thanks.

With this turned off, will the menus look like the kind of menu set-ups that
we used to see - oh so many years ago? You know - headings and a simple
list of menu items under each heading, instead of "strings"? I am certain
that I could get used to that again!

Jim H

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Hi, Daniel. The Virtual Ribbon is supposed to make the ribbon menus more
accessible to blind users of JAWS. The disadvantage, though, is that they
block the use of some of the Microsoft shortcut letter combinations. When
the Virtual Ribbon is turned off, these shortcut letter combinations become
available again.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Just curious. What is the function of the Virtual Ribbons. Why would
someone
want Virtual Ribbons on, and why would someone want Virtual Ribbons off? I
have never understood Virtual Ribbons and what it does.

Daniel

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Pablo, if you'll go Insertt for JAWS Verbosity. Arrow way down past to
User
Beginning or Intermediate or Advanced, right or not far after that, you'll
come to Virtual Ribbon. You can check or uncheck it, whichever you prefer.
windows-10-and-jaws@yahoogroups.co.in

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I read the instructions to switch the echo level, and those instructions
were very good.
Now I am trying to use a keystroke to switch the use of virtual ribbons,
but when I look for use of virtual ribbons or something like that, it
doesn't appear in the default list. There is a way to switch the virtual
ribbons on or off through a keystroke?
Maybe through a script, but I have no idea what is the function to switch
the virtual ribbon function on/off.
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Re: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Daniel McBride
 

Dave:

Quite honestly, I do not know if I have been functioning with Virtual
Ribbons, or not.

Up to September of 2011, I was using Windows XP with Microsoft Office and
JAWS 4.5. My current desktop, purchased 4 years ago, has Windows 7 and I
have Microsoft Office 2010 with JAWS 14. During these 4 years, I have never
disabled, nor enabled, Virtual Ribbons. Whatever the default setting is when
you install JAWS is what I have been functioning with.

Even after you, and others, have replied to my inquiry, I still do not know
what Virtual Ribbons is or what it does or does not do. Probably never will.
However, I will not quit trying.

Thanks so much for your reply.

Daniel

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Subject: Re: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Daniel,

The Virtual Ribbon gives the look and feel of the traditional menu structure
that existed before the Ribbon was introduced. It is a band-aid approach to
hiding the Ribbon behind a similar interface. However the Virtual ribbon
does not have the quick key capability that existed in the old traditional
menus, so it's not an exact replacement. If you've become familiar with the
Ribbon structure, you're probably better off not bothering with the virtual
ribbon.

Another problem is that if you should be using another computer for a time,
such as in a library, and you are using virtual ribbons, you're going to be
hampered by not having that crutch available. And the virtual ribbon is only
a JAWS artifact, so NVDA and Window-Eyes would not have it, to the best of
my knowledge.

And I for one see no point in being able to switch back/forth between them
as a toggle function; you either use them or you don't. But that's just my
opinion, which is subject to criticism.\

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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Just curious. What is the function of the Virtual Ribbons. Why would someone
want Virtual Ribbons on, and why would someone want Virtual Ribbons off? I
have never understood Virtual Ribbons and what it does.

Daniel

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via Jfw
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Subject: RE: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Pablo, if you'll go Insertt for JAWS Verbosity. Arrow way down past to User
Beginning or Intermediate or Advanced, right or not far after that, you'll
come to Virtual Ribbon. You can check or uncheck it, whichever you prefer.
windows-10-and-jaws@yahoogroups.co.in

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Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@gmail.com>
Subject: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

I read the instructions to switch the echo level, and those instructions
were very good.
Now I am trying to use a keystroke to switch the use of virtual ribbons,
but when I look for use of virtual ribbons or something like that, it
doesn't appear in the default list. There is a way to switch the virtual
ribbons on or off through a keystroke?
Maybe through a script, but I have no idea what is the function to switch
the virtual ribbon function on/off.
Thanks for any help.



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Re: Need Recommendation for an Accessible and Powerful Media Player

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Mario.

I will definitely give this a try on both my home and work computer.

Tom Behler

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Subject: Re: Need Recommendation for an Accessible and Powerful Media Player

Tom, you need to tell Winamp to take over for playing a video/audio.
merely installing it doesn't work like it used to in XP.

start Winamp, press control+p.
press the home key and down arrow to file types.
press tab to a button named associate file types, all, and press enter.
alt+f4 and that should be it.
now entering on a video/audio should start playing in Winamp.


On 9/3/2015 10:15 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Marcia:

What is the winamp agent, and how do I get access to it?

Is this something that must be installed on my computers to make
things work properly?

Sorry for the elementary questions, but this is the first I have heard
of winamp agent.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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Hi
If you use the Winamp Agent, It will keep Winamp as your default
player.

Marsha

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Re: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Pablo Morales
 

Hi Carolyn,
Yes, but I was looking something quicly, and easyer. The number of steps to
get to the ribbon option are around 3, when the options are just 2, yes or
no. Would be easyer to switch this binary value with just a keystroke
instead 3.
Because of that I was thinking that probably through a script or through the
keyboard manager fits the possibility to do it.
Thanks

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Subject: RE: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Pablo, if you'll go Insert V for JAWS Verbosity. Arrow way down past to User
Beginning or Intermediate or Advanced, right or not far after that, you'll
come to Virtual Ribbon. You can check or uncheck it, whichever you prefer.

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Pablo, if you'll go Insert V for JAWS Verbosity. Arrow way down past to User
Beginning or Intermediate or Advanced, right or not far after that, you'll
come to Virtual Ribbon. You can check or uncheck it, whichever you prefer.
windows-10-and-jaws@yahoogroups.co.in

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Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@gmail.com>
Subject: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

I read the instructions to switch the echo level, and those instructions
were very good.
Now I am trying to use a keystroke to switch the use of virtual ribbons,
but when I look for use of virtual ribbons or something like that, it
doesn't appear in the default list. There is a way to switch the virtual
ribbons on or off through a keystroke?
Maybe through a script, but I have no idea what is the function to switch
the virtual ribbon function on/off.
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Re: language question

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

The soft French J sound, the one they use with the d in front of it, can
often be simulated with a zj, as it's got a lot of the soft z sound to the
beginning of it, a z sound they don't use much, instead preferring the hard
Z of zed.

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Nice. This is the first one that works for my synthesizer. I'd only
suggest that you remove the first 'e" to get the right French vowel:

Zjanne

I'm adding it to my JAWS dictionary.

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Zjeanne might work.

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I too know someone by the name, Jeanne. It is almost impossible to
get the "soft" J sound. The closest that I have been able to come,
with her name, is "jian". The sound is correct, except for the
slightly harder "J" sound. At least, I recognize her name, and it's
much better than "Jeannie", or "Janine".
Give it a try.

Jim H

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I suggested Zjawn, but that Jeanne is pronounced like Jee Ann by
JAWS.
I have a French Canadian friend, Jeanne, who will tell you that her
name is pronounced Zjawn.

Best from,

Carolyn

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I'd probably tell it to pronounce it as zhahn or zhauhn. Thought it's
going to have difficulty in differentiating it from when it talks
about Jean Stapleton or the actress Jean Simmons, not to mention of
any blue jean pants or skirts.

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Sandra
Streeter via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:54 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Sandra Streeter
Subject: language question

Hi, all:

Is there a way to get JAWS to replicate the French soft J sound, as
in
"Jean Valjean"? I was trying to change its pronunciation of that
name in the dictionary manager program, but couldn't get it to
pronounce
it
as I knew it should be pronounced. Any pointers, appreciated!
Thanks!



Sandra
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