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Re: Firefox 40 question

Gennie Eachus <geachus@...>
 

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; 'The Jaws for Windows
support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com>
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter. I'm then able to
open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Carolyn,

The dollar sign was only used as an example, but the explanation goes for
any punctuation mark.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I guess that dollar sign thing makes since to somebody.

Best from,

Carolyn


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Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager. They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is
most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most? Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different
levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Firefox 40 question

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter. I'm then able to
open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I guess that dollar sign thing makes since to somebody.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager. They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is
most. To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most? Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different
levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Re: Contacting Netflix about accessibility issues.

cecropia64
 

Not that it'll help with the accessibility issue which I've written to and spoke to them on the phone about, but you can always call them and order the discs you want. They are more than happy to do this for you. I've done it myself a few times and they were very helpful.
I know it doesn't help accessibility but at least you can get what you want. Hope this helps a little.

Stew8/31/2015 5:13 PM, Gudrun Brunot via Jfw wrote:

Hi Tim: I wrote. Come on, folks, Tim's letter is good. You can modify it to address what your beef is. Mine was that when I want to order discs from a series, I can click on the series but not on the episodes themselves. I could never order disc 2, or 3, without sighted assistance. I haven't checked out the website too recently, but I've also chimed in on the audio description bit.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 6:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Contacting Netflix about accessibility issues.

Hi All,

I took Genni's advice, and called Netflix at 877-742-1480. As I expected, the person answering the general call line had no suggestions. She did however give me the email address for posting questions to their engineer group. The address is:
technicalresearch@netflix.com

I also recommend anyone who wishes to use Netflix contact them, either at the phone number below, or the email address above.

In case anyone is interested, below is what I wrote to Netflix. I am not claiming this as anything more than it is, a quick note of frustration, with some ideas for them. Here is what I wrote:


Dear Netflix,


I am blind, and use a Windows 7 laptop. Up until a week or so ago, your web site was extremely hard to navigate, but at least I could start a video.
Now, after your web page design changes implemented a few days ago, I cannot even start a video.

I am using the latest update of JAWS version 16; JAWS is the world’s most widely used screen reading software for the blind. I tried accessing your service with IE, Firefox, and Chrome, but could not get a video to start.
With IE, I cannot even activate my profile.

I am a reasonably experienced Internet user, and if there is a way to navigate your site with a screen reader, I have not figured it out. I am using the recommended common settings for JAWS, and I have no problems with some other video streaming services.

Back a few weeks ago, Netflix announced the addition of audio description.
That is a great move, and I applaud you for that. However, in a very ironic twist, it is not possible for a blind person to select the audio described version, even though one is on the part of your site that contains only audio described programs. Why add that extra step? If one is on the audio description page, the user obviously wants the audio described version, so why not make that the default?

In general, there seems to be a huge gap between your marketing department and the technology group. Netflix marketing is advertising this new and wonderful audio description service, but a blind person simply cannot navigate the site, especially after the rollout of your new web page design.

In closing, I am using a Windows laptop, and I do not have a smart phone.
The issues I am asking you to please fix are just for us old-fashioned blind folks using a Windows computer.

I know from experience that screen reader accessibility is a very narrow specialty and skill set, so if you do not have such an expert on staff, you could either hire one or contract with one of the accessibility consultant experts that will help you become and stay accessible.

I am happy to volunteer by helping you test any changes; I have done that in the past for a number of web service companies. Please advise, and much thanks.

Sincerely,
Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Gennie Eachus via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Gennie Eachus
Subject: RE: Netflix

I also am having trouble with Netflix. I can no longer access the search field. I have spoken to both the DVD customer service line and to the streaming customer service line.

The customer service number is
(877) 742-1480
You will be asked to go online to get a service code to speed things up. Not necessary. Just stay on the line and someone will answer.

We all need to call Netflix about this issue.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of carman mccauley via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: carman mccauley
Subject: RE: Netflix

Hi,

A couple of things that may help. On the profile page use the jaws cursor to click on the profile you want. Use insert f7 to use the links list on the movies page. I agree they messed it up.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via Jfw
Sent: June-19-15 6:45 PM
To: Jaws User Group
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: Netflix

Dear Group:

I am new to this JAWS User Group. I am a subscriber to Netflix, who seems to want to make it darned difficult for screen readers to navigate.

I am operating with JAWS 14, Windows 7 and Internet Explorer. Netflix changed things about 4 months ago that made navigation difficult without a sighted person to use the mouse. Then, they changed again yesterday and I cannot navigate their site at all.

Any others out there with this issue?

Daniel
Texas


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Re: Issue with creating accessible PDF files.

Gudrun Brunot
 

I have that problem, too. Often when I open pdf files I've downloaded from a
service. What I sometimes get away with is having a sighted person open the
file, so that JAWS doesn't get a chance to process it. Then, the sightling
highlights all the text, copies it, pastes it into Notepad, and the text is
improved.

Same thing happens with some pdf files opened in Braillenote. It does matter
more than you'd think, for the reading gets really affected.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 6:04 AM
To: 'Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Issue with creating accessible PDF files.

I would be very interested to know if this resolves your issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:03 AM
To: Dave Carlson; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Issue with creating accessible PDF files.

I've been bugged by that for years. The other day I was looking at such a
problem document, and decided to bring it into Word 13 to clean it up. Lo
and behold, the problem disappeared. It'll be interesting to see what
happens when I resave it to PDF.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 6:23 PM
To: Michael Mote; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Issue with creating accessible PDF files.

Mike,

I've seen this with PDF files created by others, so it's not necessarily
something you're doing wrong. Reading the rendered document very often does
result in words being glued together, and I'm not sure if they were
originally separated by line breaks.

Best solution I've found is to use Freedom Import Printer to render into
text.

But again I think your document is fine, even if it reads weird. Have you
printed it and checked with Openbook, or showed to a sighted person?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Mote via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 01:36 PM
Subject: Issue with creating accessible PDF files.


Hi folks! I'm having an issue with creating an accessible PDF document. I
am able to create the document, and save it as a PDF file. When I pull up
the PDF file, JAWS reads it, but I'm noticing that the words are run
together, and JAWS tries to pronounce the words as one word, because there
is no space between the two or three words. It appears that JAWS is reading
this correctly. My concern is that somehow in the translation, the words
are being run together. How do you keep this from happening? Is there a
way to make these words have spaces between them?







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Re: newest emails on top

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

And if you Press Control A to high light them and Shift Delete, they won't
even be in the trash folder.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: newest emails on top

Actually, it wouldn't take any time at all to delete all the emails. All you
must do is to go to the list of emails in the particular folder, press
CONTROL plus the letter A to select all the emails, then press delete, and
they will all be gone, no matter whether you are in conversation thread mode
or not.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: newest emails on top


I know where it is at. Originally it was on ascending.
I'm not thinking its you and not "explaining" well, instead I think
there is more to it. I'm thinking the ascending/descending not
working applies to the emails in this case in the conversation view.
I wonder if it will work if I removed the conversation view, but that
would take 40 days and 40 nights to delete all the emails I have
coming in lol.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Did you press Alt V, V, S and then Tab to Sort. I had a problem about
arrowing and tabbing, but arrowing got me to Sort, I believe, then
Tabbing got me to the Option, where Ascending and Descending were. On
mine, Descending was checked; I checked Ascending. Right now I am not
good enough in Outlook 2013 to give the clearest instructions, but it
is annoying, if you want your messages with the oldest first and are
getting them with the newest first. I hope you can get it done this
time.

Best from,

Carolyn

P.S. Kimsan, I tried while in an e-mail, but that command in a message
runs Spell Check like F 7. I thought I'd check it before sending. I
did find out that that first V puts you on the upper Ribbon, so when
you get to the S, Tab to Assending and Descending.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Didn't work, emails are not coming on top of the thread...


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Right, huh? It's Alt V V s - sorry.

Best from,

Carolyn

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:49 AM
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Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Huh? Insert V plus V plus S?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

If you want your newest e-mail on top, Hit Insert V plus V plus S,
that is for sort. Tab through the fields. If you check desdending, the
newest one will be on top. If you check ascending like I do, your
oldest one will be on top. Tab to OK. Isn't that grand? You could do
that in OE too, but I have forgotten how, would have to fool around in
it, if I had it back.

Best from,

Carolyn

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:57 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: newest emails on top

Using outlook 2013, when having emails grouped in conversations, I'm
wondering is it duable to have the latest reply at the top?

Let me give an example.

On this other list, there is a conversation with 40 emails, but when a
reply comes in, I have to go to the email in the conversation it's
replying to in order to read it.

That could be like email number 26 and that is tons of down arrowing;
however, with outlook 2013 there is the unread button to list all of
your unread emails but just wondering if what I'm trying to ask is
possible.



Kimsan Song

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Re: office 365

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I feel for you, Kimsan. I am having similar problems with 2013. I called
Microsoft Disability line. At least I know what to do to keep jump starting
the thing.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: office 365

No matter what I do, nothing is working.
I'll call tech tomorrow, as it's the first day back for the school.

When I sign in and the steps state to click settings, don't remember off
hand the rest, but one thing is when I click the light version, the page
freezes.
From memory, I log in, I don't find a settings link, or anything when using
the jaws curser, but there is this button menu to press for settings an aps.
I click that, I tab over to general, it expands, then I see the light
version and press enter on it. Then it freezes.
This is driving me bonkers lol. No check boxes, or nothing of the sort.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Niall
Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: office 365

Hi,


Follow the steps as listed, but login using the below link first.


www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:53 AM, Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I clicked on the link in my previous email, and it brought me to a generic
Outlook login.
I inserted my student username and password, and I was logged into the lite
version of the email interface.

If your account is similar to mine, which I think it is, you should be able
to follow the steps in the below link to activate the more accessible view

http://tinyurl.com/qzvs2y7

Due to the differences in our time zones, it is night time here in Ireland.
So I probably won't see your reply for 9 or 10 hours, but let me know how it
goes.

Kind regards,

Niall

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I logged in, and it's still the same. Lol, I just realized I can navigate
by buttons to go from email to email, instead of pressing h.

Pressed x or A nothing was found. Since I have this email open, let me open
up one email and see if it makes me light up a cigarette, just a second...
Ok, I pressed enter on the email, it made the formsmode sound and I couldn't
down arrow, nothing. I can't find the body of the email to read about the
update to the strike lol.
I'm going to go smoke now...

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: office 365

Put a period in place of the second slash, and you should be brought to a
login page.

www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:21 PM, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

So, I could type, www.outlook.com/staffemail/psd1.org?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: office 365

Hi,

That is the usual procedure,
However, depending on the type of account, you may be able to login via
www.outlook.com.

In the case of my student email, I login via outlook.com/studentmail.ul.ie.

Maybe you could replace my information with what is after the @ sign in your
email address.

Kind regards,

Niall

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 24, 2015, at 9:19 PM, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:


I just go to the district website from home, click the email link,

then click staff log in and enter the user name and password...?

Did I answer that correctly?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----

From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>
<jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com>] On Behalf Of Niall

Gallagher via Jfw

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:09 PM

To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Cc: Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: office 365


Hi,


Do you access your email via outlook.com?

If so, there is a lite version of the email interface which is just

check boxes, links end headings.


http://tinyurl.com/qzvs2y7


There is also an Outlook app for iOS which might work.


Hope this helps.


Kind regards,


Niall


Sent from my iPod


On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

wrote:


At my job, we switched over to office 365, using the web based email

I'm unable to quickly navigate through the interface.


I can't remember what we used before lol, but I used to be able to

sign in, press x, to navigate from checkbox to checkbox and there was

a link for the subject, click it, read it, reply, rinse and repeat.

Now

I'm clueless!




All I can do is navigate heading-by-heading, and at times I get

lucky, am able to open up an email, but there is when the fun begins.

Reading the email, trying to forward, reply, even locating the send

button is a

chure!


I work for the school district, so I'm off for the summer and they

just switched over to office 365, and I'm trying to check emails from

home to get info about the possible strikes the teachers are

preparing for. Any tips on how to resolve this email issue?


Thank you!


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Re: newest emails on top

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I don't know. I did mine, but there might be some differences in something
in our computers. I have Outlook 2013, Office 2013 and Windows 10. I hope
you get it the way you want it.

Best from,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:00 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

I know where it is at. Originally it was on ascending.
I'm not thinking its you and not "explaining" well, instead I think there is
more to it. I'm thinking the ascending/descending not working applies to
the emails in this case in the conversation view. I wonder if it will work
if I removed the conversation view, but that would take 40 days and 40
nights to delete all the emails I have coming in lol.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Did you press Alt V, V, S and then Tab to Sort. I had a problem about
arrowing and tabbing, but arrowing got me to Sort, I believe, then Tabbing
got me to the Option, where Ascending and Descending were. On mine,
Descending was checked; I checked Ascending. Right now I am not good enough
in Outlook 2013 to give the clearest instructions, but it is annoying, if
you want your messages with the oldest first and are getting them with the
newest first. I hope you can get it done this time.

Best from,

Carolyn

P.S. Kimsan, I tried while in an e-mail, but that command in a message runs
Spell Check like F 7. I thought I'd check it before sending. I did find out
that that first V puts you on the upper Ribbon, so when you get to the S,
Tab to Assending and Descending.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Didn't work, emails are not coming on top of the thread...


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Right, huh? It's Alt V V s - sorry.

Best from,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Huh? Insert V plus V plus S?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

If you want your newest e-mail on top, Hit Insert V plus V plus S, that is
for sort. Tab through the fields. If you check desdending, the newest one
will be on top. If you check ascending like I do, your oldest one will be on
top. Tab to OK. Isn't that grand? You could do that in OE too, but I have
forgotten how, would have to fool around in it, if I had it back.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:57 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: newest emails on top

Using outlook 2013, when having emails grouped in conversations, I'm
wondering is it duable to have the latest reply at the top?

Let me give an example.

On this other list, there is a conversation with 40 emails, but when a reply
comes in, I have to go to the email in the conversation it's replying to in
order to read it.

That could be like email number 26 and that is tons of down arrowing;
however, with outlook 2013 there is the unread button to list all of your
unread emails but just wondering if what I'm trying to ask is possible.



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@gmail.com



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Re: Focus 14 blue and Capital Letters

Gudrun Brunot
 

Brian, are you using the Focus with an iOs device? If so, select 8-dot
braille as the input. (space 2-3-6 for the input setting which toggles
between 6-dot, 8-dot, contracted.)



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:56 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Focus 14 blue and Capital Letters

Hi, folks.

Writing in uncontracted braille with the focus 14 blue, how do you make a
capital letter.

Holding down dot 7 and pressing the letter still is making a lower case
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Re: Contacting Netflix about accessibility issues.

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hi Tim: I wrote. Come on, folks, Tim's letter is good. You can modify it to address what your beef is. Mine was that when I want to order discs from a series, I can click on the series but not on the episodes themselves. I could never order disc 2, or 3, without sighted assistance. I haven't checked out the website too recently, but I've also chimed in on the audio description bit.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 6:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Contacting Netflix about accessibility issues.

Hi All,

I took Genni's advice, and called Netflix at 877-742-1480. As I expected, the person answering the general call line had no suggestions. She did however give me the email address for posting questions to their engineer group. The address is:
technicalresearch@netflix.com

I also recommend anyone who wishes to use Netflix contact them, either at the phone number below, or the email address above.

In case anyone is interested, below is what I wrote to Netflix. I am not claiming this as anything more than it is, a quick note of frustration, with some ideas for them. Here is what I wrote:


Dear Netflix,


I am blind, and use a Windows 7 laptop. Up until a week or so ago, your web site was extremely hard to navigate, but at least I could start a video.
Now, after your web page design changes implemented a few days ago, I cannot even start a video.

I am using the latest update of JAWS version 16; JAWS is the world’s most widely used screen reading software for the blind. I tried accessing your service with IE, Firefox, and Chrome, but could not get a video to start.
With IE, I cannot even activate my profile.

I am a reasonably experienced Internet user, and if there is a way to navigate your site with a screen reader, I have not figured it out. I am using the recommended common settings for JAWS, and I have no problems with some other video streaming services.

Back a few weeks ago, Netflix announced the addition of audio description.
That is a great move, and I applaud you for that. However, in a very ironic twist, it is not possible for a blind person to select the audio described version, even though one is on the part of your site that contains only audio described programs. Why add that extra step? If one is on the audio description page, the user obviously wants the audio described version, so why not make that the default?

In general, there seems to be a huge gap between your marketing department and the technology group. Netflix marketing is advertising this new and wonderful audio description service, but a blind person simply cannot navigate the site, especially after the rollout of your new web page design.

In closing, I am using a Windows laptop, and I do not have a smart phone.
The issues I am asking you to please fix are just for us old-fashioned blind folks using a Windows computer.

I know from experience that screen reader accessibility is a very narrow specialty and skill set, so if you do not have such an expert on staff, you could either hire one or contract with one of the accessibility consultant experts that will help you become and stay accessible.

I am happy to volunteer by helping you test any changes; I have done that in the past for a number of web service companies. Please advise, and much thanks.

Sincerely,
Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Gennie Eachus via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Gennie Eachus
Subject: RE: Netflix

I also am having trouble with Netflix. I can no longer access the search field. I have spoken to both the DVD customer service line and to the streaming customer service line.

The customer service number is
(877) 742-1480
You will be asked to go online to get a service code to speed things up. Not necessary. Just stay on the line and someone will answer.

We all need to call Netflix about this issue.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of carman mccauley via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: carman mccauley
Subject: RE: Netflix

Hi,

A couple of things that may help. On the profile page use the jaws cursor to click on the profile you want. Use insert f7 to use the links list on the movies page. I agree they messed it up.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via Jfw
Sent: June-19-15 6:45 PM
To: Jaws User Group
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: Netflix

Dear Group:

I am new to this JAWS User Group. I am a subscriber to Netflix, who seems to want to make it darned difficult for screen readers to navigate.

I am operating with JAWS 14, Windows 7 and Internet Explorer. Netflix changed things about 4 months ago that made navigation difficult without a sighted person to use the mouse. Then, they changed again yesterday and I cannot navigate their site at all.

Any others out there with this issue?

Daniel
Texas


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Re: newest emails on top

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

It was rather a shame. The messages were from this list, and I had no idea the darn thing was sending them to Junk for months on end; There were too many to catch up on. I thought I'd been dropped, and couldn't figure out why.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: newest emails on top

Yeah, I had that a couple of times. What I did then was to go to the top of the message list, hold down the Shift key and press and hold the Down Arrow for a few seconds. This would select maybe fifty messages. Then I hit delete, and repeated the process.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: newest emails on top


That depends, Bill. I once had to empty a junk folder, that had been
saving messages without my knowledge. It took a while, and JAWS
clammed up until it was finished. I'm talking several hundred messages
I didn't even know I had.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: newest emails on top

Actually, it wouldn't take any time at all to delete all the emails.
All you must do is to go to the list of emails in the particular
folder, press CONTROL plus the letter A to select all the emails, then
press delete, and they will all be gone, no matter whether you are in
conversation thread mode or not.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: newest emails on top


I know where it is at. Originally it was on ascending.
I'm not thinking its you and not "explaining" well, instead I think
there is more to it. I'm thinking the ascending/descending not
working applies to the emails in this case in the conversation view.
I wonder if it will work if I removed the conversation view, but
that would take 40 days and 40 nights to delete all the emails I have
coming in lol.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Did you press Alt V, V, S and then Tab to Sort. I had a problem about
arrowing and tabbing, but arrowing got me to Sort, I believe, then
Tabbing got me to the Option, where Ascending and Descending were. On
mine, Descending was checked; I checked Ascending. Right now I am not
good enough in Outlook 2013 to give the clearest instructions, but it
is annoying, if you want your messages with the oldest first and are
getting them with the newest first. I hope you can get it done this
time.

Best from,

Carolyn

P.S. Kimsan, I tried while in an e-mail, but that command in a
message runs Spell Check like F 7. I thought I'd check it before
sending. I did find out that that first V puts you on the upper
Ribbon, so when you get to the S, Tab to Assending and Descending.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Didn't work, emails are not coming on top of the thread...


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Right, huh? It's Alt V V s - sorry.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Huh? Insert V plus V plus S?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

If you want your newest e-mail on top, Hit Insert V plus V plus S,
that is for sort. Tab through the fields. If you check desdending,
the newest one will be on top. If you check ascending like I do, your
oldest one will be on top. Tab to OK. Isn't that grand? You could do
that in OE too, but I have forgotten how, would have to fool around
in it, if I had it back.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:57 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: newest emails on top

Using outlook 2013, when having emails grouped in conversations, I'm
wondering is it duable to have the latest reply at the top?

Let me give an example.

On this other list, there is a conversation with 40 emails, but when
a reply comes in, I have to go to the email in the conversation it's
replying to in order to read it.

That could be like email number 26 and that is tons of down
arrowing; however, with outlook 2013 there is the unread button to
list all of your unread emails but just wondering if what I'm trying
to ask is possible.



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@gmail.com



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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager. They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of
punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is most. To
hear less
punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most? Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different
levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Re: newest emails on top

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Yeah, I had that a couple of times. What I did then was to go to the top of the message list, hold down the Shift key and press and hold the Down Arrow for a few seconds. This would select maybe fifty messages. Then I hit delete, and repeated the process.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: newest emails on top


That depends, Bill. I once had to empty a junk folder, that had been saving messages without my knowledge. It took a while, and JAWS clammed up until it was finished. I'm talking several hundred messages I didn't even know I had.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: newest emails on top

Actually, it wouldn't take any time at all to delete all the emails. All you must do is to go to the list of emails in the particular folder, press CONTROL plus the letter A to select all the emails, then press delete, and they will all be gone, no matter whether you are in conversation thread mode or not.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: newest emails on top


I know where it is at. Originally it was on ascending.
I'm not thinking its you and not "explaining" well, instead I think
there is more to it. I'm thinking the ascending/descending not
working applies to the emails in this case in the conversation view.
I wonder if it will work if I removed the conversation view, but that
would take 40 days and 40 nights to delete all the emails I have
coming in lol.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Did you press Alt V, V, S and then Tab to Sort. I had a problem about
arrowing and tabbing, but arrowing got me to Sort, I believe, then
Tabbing got me to the Option, where Ascending and Descending were. On
mine, Descending was checked; I checked Ascending. Right now I am not
good enough in Outlook 2013 to give the clearest instructions, but it
is annoying, if you want your messages with the oldest first and are
getting them with the newest first. I hope you can get it done this
time.

Best from,

Carolyn

P.S. Kimsan, I tried while in an e-mail, but that command in a message
runs Spell Check like F 7. I thought I'd check it before sending. I
did find out that that first V puts you on the upper Ribbon, so when
you get to the S, Tab to Assending and Descending.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Didn't work, emails are not coming on top of the thread...


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Right, huh? It's Alt V V s - sorry.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Huh? Insert V plus V plus S?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

If you want your newest e-mail on top, Hit Insert V plus V plus S,
that is for sort. Tab through the fields. If you check desdending, the
newest one will be on top. If you check ascending like I do, your
oldest one will be on top. Tab to OK. Isn't that grand? You could do
that in OE too, but I have forgotten how, would have to fool around in
it, if I had it back.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:57 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: newest emails on top

Using outlook 2013, when having emails grouped in conversations, I'm
wondering is it duable to have the latest reply at the top?

Let me give an example.

On this other list, there is a conversation with 40 emails, but when a
reply comes in, I have to go to the email in the conversation it's
replying to in order to read it.

That could be like email number 26 and that is tons of down arrowing;
however, with outlook 2013 there is the unread button to list all of
your unread emails but just wondering if what I'm trying to ask is possible.



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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Dave...
 

Kimsan,

Give it a try. Creating a test paragraph is actually a mind-stimulating
activity. As to Window-Eyes, well that is another choice, and you're welcome
to use it, just as Narrator or the other one that starts with "N".

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kimsansong--- via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 08:25 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation


I must do all that? Lol
Window eyes tells me which punctuation is spoken before i change the
punctuation levels.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Dave Carlson via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Kimsan,

Create a test paragraph, using many of your more common punctuations. Then
read it using the different settings.
Use all of those punctuations above the number row key, as well.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


The most, some, all and none. We all know what none will do along with
all,
but what about most and some.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different
levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level
If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then
down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be
used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear
the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the
above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v
to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow
past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-----Original Message-----
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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are the practical differences between all, some, most? Even none lets one or two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Now might not be a good time to mention this, and Mike told us how to reverse any changes, but saving an unaltered DEFAULT.JKM in a convenient place never hurts.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:42 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes "punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Re: newest emails on top

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That depends, Bill. I once had to empty a junk folder, that had been saving messages without my knowledge. It took a while, and JAWS clammed up until it was finished. I'm talking several hundred messages I didn't even know I had.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: newest emails on top

Actually, it wouldn't take any time at all to delete all the emails. All you must do is to go to the list of emails in the particular folder, press CONTROL plus the letter A to select all the emails, then press delete, and they will all be gone, no matter whether you are in conversation thread mode or not.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: newest emails on top


I know where it is at. Originally it was on ascending.
I'm not thinking its you and not "explaining" well, instead I think
there is more to it. I'm thinking the ascending/descending not
working applies to the emails in this case in the conversation view.
I wonder if it will work if I removed the conversation view, but that
would take 40 days and 40 nights to delete all the emails I have
coming in lol.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Did you press Alt V, V, S and then Tab to Sort. I had a problem about
arrowing and tabbing, but arrowing got me to Sort, I believe, then
Tabbing got me to the Option, where Ascending and Descending were. On
mine, Descending was checked; I checked Ascending. Right now I am not
good enough in Outlook 2013 to give the clearest instructions, but it
is annoying, if you want your messages with the oldest first and are
getting them with the newest first. I hope you can get it done this
time.

Best from,

Carolyn

P.S. Kimsan, I tried while in an e-mail, but that command in a message
runs Spell Check like F 7. I thought I'd check it before sending. I
did find out that that first V puts you on the upper Ribbon, so when
you get to the S, Tab to Assending and Descending.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Didn't work, emails are not coming on top of the thread...


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Right, huh? It's Alt V V s - sorry.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Huh? Insert V plus V plus S?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:37 AM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

If you want your newest e-mail on top, Hit Insert V plus V plus S,
that is for sort. Tab through the fields. If you check desdending, the
newest one will be on top. If you check ascending like I do, your
oldest one will be on top. Tab to OK. Isn't that grand? You could do
that in OE too, but I have forgotten how, would have to fool around in
it, if I had it back.

Best from,

Carolyn

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:57 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: newest emails on top

Using outlook 2013, when having emails grouped in conversations, I'm
wondering is it duable to have the latest reply at the top?

Let me give an example.

On this other list, there is a conversation with 40 emails, but when a
reply comes in, I have to go to the email in the conversation it's
replying to in order to read it.

That could be like email number 26 and that is tons of down arrowing;
however, with outlook 2013 there is the unread button to list all of
your unread emails but just wondering if what I'm trying to ask is possible.



Kimsan Song

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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

kimsansong@...
 

I must do all that? Lol
Window eyes tells me which punctuation is spoken before i change the punctuation levels.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Dave Carlson via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Kimsan,

Create a test paragraph, using many of your more common punctuations. Then
read it using the different settings.
Use all of those punctuations above the number row key, as well.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


The most, some, all and none. We all know what none will do along with all,
but what about most and some.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different
levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Dave...
 

Kimsan,

Create a test paragraph, using many of your more common punctuations. Then
read it using the different settings.
Use all of those punctuations above the number row key, as well.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


The most, some, all and none. We all know what none will do along with all,
but what about most and some.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Different
levels of what? I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none. That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter. Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level. So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

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