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Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

Mario
 

what I do when the need arises is to use a single earpiece headset (headphone plus a built in mic) connected to the phone and one earbud plugged into the computer. now I'd be interested in the adaptor the engineer comes up with, as I'd like to have a more elegant headpiece in attempt to eliminate all the wires.



On 8/14/2015 11:50 AM, Brent Harding via Jfw wrote:
I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long
ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days?
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Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

Michael Mote
 

You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does
exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product
page below.
https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie
r-for-the-visually-impaired/

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Subject: dual source headsets, where to get?

I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to
hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better,
it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I
tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who
answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a
cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had
the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was
going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which
uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes
thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only
had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to
be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with
Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has
been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The
guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually
switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you
switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you
missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days?
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dual source headsets, where to get?

Brent Harding
 

I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days?
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Re: Learning JAWS scripting

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Paul,
Thank you, this sounds terrific . Could you please post your blog address
again?
Cheers Kevin.

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Sent: August-13-15 3:51 PM
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Cc: Paul Martz <skewmatrix@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Learning JAWS scripting

Thanks, Mario. I like your idea of a sort of, "let's learn how to program -
using JAWS scripting". It makes a lot of sense to teach basic programming,
using JSL as an example. The idea has a lot of merit.

While looking for Kenneth Gould article, I found this:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/jawsscripting.html
Looks like some valuable information. But if you know where the Gould
article is, could you email the address? Or post it here? Or to my blog? Or
all of the above... LOL

I'll put in as much time on this as I can, but it's one of those big
projects. I need to review all the available information first. Then
actually become competent with JSL, otherwise I'm just blowing hot air.
Finally, I can move forward with some kind of wikibook. Anyhow, I'll blog as
I go.

Thanks for the feedback.
-Paul




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via
Jfw

Paul, since no one has responded, here's my thought:

in addition to your ideas, what the blind user who wants to get into
writing
JAWS scripts really needs is to learn basic concepts of programming in
order
to do the nifty stuff, like using functions, arrays, etc.

about 12 years ago when I tried my hand at scripting,there was a
document called "Everything you wanted to know about scripting, ...",
written by Kenneth A. Gould. I think it's still on FS's website or
some where
else... it
was divided into two parts.

the first part dealt with the basic stuff, like how to get started,
syntax, etc.
but the second part dealt with stuff that assumed that the user had
prior programming knowledge about concepts, techniques, etc.
like the knowledge one would attain after programming for a while... a
good while.

since you've programmed for about 3 decades,... I think it was you, ...
you could fill in the missing explanation that a newbie would need to
comprehend before attempting to try their hand at scripting.

creating a wiki sounds like a good idea, this way other experienced
programmers could also contribute to the cause, working out
explainations of different concepts, and whatever else would be
important. but it should be that a newbie needs to register and login
in order to read and/or contribute. and I'd also suggest that only the
experienced programmers have the right to add/modify these materials
that teach the needed concepts and explainations, effectively
preventing mis information by any newbie. the experienced programmer
who would want to contribute would have to send an email request , to
you?, to be approved. if this last part doesn't sit well with you,
something has to be done to ensure that the newbie is not mis informed
of explainations and whatever else would be important to understand.

your thoughts?


On 8/12/2015 2:53 PM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
Hi all. A few days ago, there was some discussion on learning JAWS
scripting. I've started learning it myself, and wanted to post some
thoughts.

First, I've decided to blog about JSL as I learn it. My blog page is
here:
https://skewmatrix.wordpress.com/ . No advertisements or popups,
just straight information about JSL whenever I learn something
interesting.
The "JSL #1" post enumerates the available JAWS Scripting Language
resources that I've found. Please post comments if you know of other
resources.

Second, I'm toying with the idea of starting an online book project
about JSL, for example at wikibooks.com. The advantage of putting
this book online as a wikibook is that the information would be much
more likely to stay up-to-date and relevant; people could
immediately correct any typos or mistakes; and of course the book
would be free to all and readily available online. I have written
technical books in the past, so this wouldn't be too much of a
stretch for me. (I just need to learn it first. Ha ha.)

The question is: In light of the wonderful documentation from
Freedom Scientific that is already available, what kind of content
would I / we need to provide in this new online resource in order to
make it worthwhile? What would you like to know about JSL that you
can't already learn from the FS docs? Would we want something like a
brief overview of JAWS scripting? Or maybe a "quick start guide" to
get you up and running with the basics? Or possibly a "scripting
gems" kind of book, with several examples of JAWS scripts? Or a language
reference?
Or all of the above? Of course, "we don't need this, the FS docs are
fine" is
also an acceptable response.

Any thoughts or comments... Thanks...
-Paul



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Re: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That's never worked on this list, Carolyn, something the JAWS help never thought about.

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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:29 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Daniel, I did the Insert Shift R, hope this is off list. I'm still a bit on the crippled side since getting Outlook Saturday night with my new computer.


Thanks for your encouragement.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Carolyn:

Absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Also, would you please contact me off list again.

Daniel McBride
dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net

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Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was very embarrassed that this came up in this list.

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Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.



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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM
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Subject: Disappointing news.

Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history, as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate for inpatient treatment at their facility.



They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone.



It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did, but those were a nice couple of months.



Please keep her in your prayers.



Best from,



Carolyn



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Re: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Pablo Morales
 

Hi Mike,

Well, I am not getting the same problem that you are getting with your jaws
cursor. Even though, I have found other problems, but curiously the problems
are different in 4 different computers. Would be interesting to know why
jaws is working differently in 4 different computers, when all windows 10
installation are new, and all jaws installation are new also. A couple of
hours ago, I installed jwindows 10 in a new computer, Lenovo desktop, and
jaws has been working very good. I am noticing a problem when I press alt
tab when I want to go to other window, but it doesn't happen always. I am
still noticing that when the computer is in the log in window, jaws is not
able to read the text field where we should type the password. If I press
tab, nothing happen, if I try to use insert tab to read where is the Pc
cursor, nothing happen. I have to press alt tab two times to make jaws catch
the control where is the password field.
I really don't understand why all these problems are different in each
computer.
P

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Hi folks! Not sure if this is a JAWS thing or not, but it seems like I
cannot use my JAWS cursor to read things in Windows 10. Is there some
setting that I need to adjust for this to happen? I have really enjoyed the
helpful information that has been passed along by those of you who are
running Windows 10. Thanks a lot for the feedback!





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Re: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Unfortunate that it does not, since it says it does - guess that makes our
computers liars, huh?

Best from,

Carolyn

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Subject: Re: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Insert Shift R hasn't worked for me for a very long time.

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From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:28 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address,so without
sounding like a mod,please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Daniel, I did the Insert Shift R, hope this is off list. I'm still a bit on
the crippled side since getting Outlook Saturday night with my new computer.


Thanks for your encouragement.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Carolyn:

Absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Also, would you please contact
me off list again.

Daniel McBride
dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was
very embarrassed that this came up in this list.

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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:12 PM
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Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.



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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: Disappointing news.

Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for
evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history,
as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate
for inpatient treatment at their facility.



They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her
medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has
already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone.



It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did,
but those were a nice couple of months.



Please keep her in your prayers.



Best from,



Carolyn



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Re: disabling forms mode

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That's more or less what the recent forms mode changes are meant to do. With the proper settings, you should be able to tab around, going in and out as needed. I enter data on Internet apps every day, and it's something that works for me with minimal effort most of the time. You can even tune your settings for individual sights. JAWS help, or a review of what's new in recent releases, covers this well.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:03 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: disabling forms mode

You have a good idea, that I think would be good to be shared with Freedom Scientific. I don't mean to insinuate that they haven't given the problem thought, but your idea sounds like the ideal one.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:54 PM
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Cc: Sandra Streeter <sandrastreeter381@gmail.com>
Subject: disabling forms mode

Hello all:

I am a JAWS 16 user who has used JAWS for years. I’ve always found myself frustrated to have to press Enter anytime I want to start or stop entries in Forms Mode; sighted people can just type their info in, without the extra steps. Is there a way I could disable Forms Mode so that I could just type in the needed info? I am a fast typist and find that I go faster than the field can appear or disappear! It would be nice if, upon reaching a form field, JAWS could just say, “to field,” then you immediately type a person’s name, for instance... I’ve always been mystified about the purpose of Forms Mode: what issues was it designed to address? Any responses are appreciated.


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Re: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Michael Mote
 

I'm going to make an educated guess that it may have to do with the types of
video drivers that are installed in the different computers. I have
experienced JAWS not identifying the password field at start-up. It never
reads that to me correctly either. So far, not a big fan of Windows 10.
I'm hopeful it will get better. I seem to remember Windows 8 starting out
like this too.

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Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:56 AM
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Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Hi Mike,

Well, I am not getting the same problem that you are getting with your jaws
cursor. Even though, I have found other problems, but curiously the problems
are different in 4 different computers. Would be interesting to know why
jaws is working differently in 4 different computers, when all windows 10
installation are new, and all jaws installation are new also. A couple of
hours ago, I installed jwindows 10 in a new computer, Lenovo desktop, and
jaws has been working very good. I am noticing a problem when I press alt
tab when I want to go to other window, but it doesn't happen always. I am
still noticing that when the computer is in the log in window, jaws is not
able to read the text field where we should type the password. If I press
tab, nothing happen, if I try to use insert tab to read where is the Pc
cursor, nothing happen. I have to press alt tab two times to make jaws catch
the control where is the password field.
I really don't understand why all these problems are different in each
computer.
P
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Hi folks! Not sure if this is a JAWS thing or not, but it seems like I
cannot use my JAWS cursor to read things in Windows 10. Is there some
setting that I need to adjust for this to happen? I have really enjoyed the
helpful information that has been passed along by those of you who are
running Windows 10. Thanks a lot for the feedback!





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Re: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

judith bron
 

Yes this is a jaws support list and all of us benefit immeasurably from the
information we gain. But we're human beings first and this has been
demonstrated throughout this thread. How can you not react to someone's
medical difficulties and traumas? I know we all wish Carolyn and her family
good health and pray her family member has a complete recovery. Now back to
our regularly scheduled programming.

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Carolyn:

Please email me off list. The address is below.

Daniel
dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:29 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Daniel, I did the Insert Shift R, hope this is off list. I'm still a bit on
the crippled side since getting Outlook Saturday night with my new computer.


Thanks for your encouragement.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Daniel McBride <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Carolyn:

Absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Also, would you please contact
me off list again.

Daniel McBride
dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was
very embarrassed that this came up in this list.

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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:12 PM
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Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.



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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: Disappointing news.

Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for
evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history,
as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate
for inpatient treatment at their facility.



They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her
medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has
already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone.



It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did,
but those were a nice couple of months.



Please keep her in your prayers.



Best from,



Carolyn



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Re: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Carolyn, sounds as if the mistake is working out pretty well.

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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was very embarrassed that this came up in this list.

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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:12 PM
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Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: Disappointing news.

Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history, as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate for inpatient treatment at their facility.



They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone.



It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did, but those were a nice couple of months.



Please keep her in your prayers.



Best from,



Carolyn



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Re: VLC media player

majno <alfred.hl@...>
 

You should first press jaws key and 3. then up arrow or left arrow. is how i use vlc to control the volume.

El 14/08/2015 a las 2:29, Jim L via Jfw escribió:
Heya folks,

Am running windows 7 64bit and Jaws 16 and Am familiar with VLC shortcut
keys but unfortunately for some reason I cannot control the volume with any
keyboard keys except for the mouse scroller wheel. I have checked all
settings and control up arrow doesn't do anything for me and ignore keyboard
shortcuts is unchecked as well.

Is there a way I can have a shortcut key for volume up and down on my
keyboard?

Any help will be appreciated.

Cheers,

Jim



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Re: disabling forms mode

De Miguel Carballo, María Ángeles
 

Hi
You can select automatically Forms Mode in the Jaws Settings Center , there is an option named Forms Mode.
This is the explanation that FS gives.
Hope that helps

Use radio buttons in this group to automatically or manually enter Forms Mode. Select Auto to automatically enter Forms Mode when you press TAB, SHIFT+TAB, or the ARROW Keys to move to a control. Auto Forms Mode means that you can freely type in the edit field without having to first press ENTER. When you exit the control, Forms Mode turns off. This functionality can be very useful for new and sighted JAWS users. Auto Forms Mode is on by default. Select Manual to manually control Forms Mode operation. Manual Forms Mode is used by default when using Navigation Quick Keys to jump to a form control, such as F or E for the next form field or edit box. This means that when you move into an edit field or combo box control, you must press ENTER first to type text or select a value. To manually exit Forms Mode, press NUM PAD PLUS or ESC. Manually controlling Forms Mode may be better suited for experienced users. Note: When Forms Mode is on, Say Line or Say All reads all text on the current line. This includes labels and descriptions.



-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] En nombre de Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Enviado el: viernes, 14 de agosto de 2015 1:35
Para: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
CC: Carolyn Arnold
Asunto: RE: disabling forms mode

That does clarify - will share that one with my husband.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Subject: RE: disabling forms mode

Hello Sandra,

Forms Mode is an absolutely necessary JAWS feature because without it, there would be no way to distinguish between typing on a web page and using navigation quick keys. For instance, if there were no forms mode, JAWS wouldn't know how to respond when you press the letter "h" because it wouldn't know whether you want to type an "h" or if you wish to move to the next heading on the page. This obviously is not an issue for sighted people because they navigate the web visually. I hope this clarifies why Forms Mode is an essential component of JAWS and other screen readers.

Michal

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:54 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Sandra Streeter <sandrastreeter381@gmail.com>
Subject: disabling forms mode

Hello all:

I am a JAWS 16 user who has used JAWS for years. I’ve always found myself frustrated to have to press Enter anytime I want to start or stop entries in Forms Mode; sighted people can just type their info in, without the extra steps. Is there a way I could disable Forms Mode so that I could just type in the needed info? I am a fast typist and find that I go faster than the field can appear or disappear! It would be nice if, upon reaching a form field, JAWS could just say, “to field,” then you immediately type a person’s name, for instance... I’ve always been mystified about the purpose of Forms Mode: what issues was it designed to address? Any responses are appreciated.


Sandra
Sandra
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VLC media player

Jim L
 

Heya folks,

Am running windows 7 64bit and Jaws 16 and Am familiar with VLC shortcut
keys but unfortunately for some reason I cannot control the volume with any
keyboard keys except for the mouse scroller wheel. I have checked all
settings and control up arrow doesn't do anything for me and ignore keyboard
shortcuts is unchecked as well.

Is there a way I can have a shortcut key for volume up and down on my
keyboard?

Any help will be appreciated.

Cheers,

Jim


Re: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Russell Solowoniuk
 

These settings are still available in Windows 10.

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Did you use JAWS KEY plus the letter R to switch between Application Window
Restriction, Real Window Restriction, Current Window Restriction, Focus
Window Restriction and Frame Restriction?

If these focus settings are unavailable once switching to your JAWS Cursor,
the JAWS Cursor may not be available in Windows 10. I hope this is not the
case.

There was some talk about removing the Unrestricted Window focus from the
JAWS Cursor.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michael Mote" <miketmote73@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:54 AM
Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 issue


Hi folks! Not sure if this is a JAWS thing or not, but it seems like I
cannot use my JAWS cursor to read things in Windows 10. Is there some
setting that I need to adjust for this to happen? I have really enjoyed
the
helpful information that has been passed along by those of you who are
running Windows 10. Thanks a lot for the feedback!





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Re: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Ted,

You can actually try System Access for free by going to the following site.
Note that System Access will come up speaking when you first open the page
and, I think Jaws will be unloaded. I'm not sure exactly how things work if
you don't have a licensed copy of SA, because I think you are presented with
a login screen. Try it and see how it goes...

http://www.satogo.com

HTH

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Okay, I know this is a JAWS list, but, over time, I've seen references to
System Access. I've flirted with free programs before, and always found them
lacking. Could I find out more by entering System Access as a search term?

Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Russell and All,

I encountered the same accessibility barrier when trying to disable this
feature. I assumed that "checked" means "on, while no status indication
signifies "off." Can anyone confirm if this is in fact correct? I don't
have System Access to verify myself. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank
you in advance for your help.

Best Wishes,

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hi Mark,

Wow! I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but MS nevver ceases to amaze me with
some of the choices they make! Why would this, to use the term loosely,
feature, be turned on by default? If you hadn't brought it up here, I would
have unwittingly been sharing my bandwidth with who knows who! Amazing!
Another confirmation that switching to the Mac as my main home computer 6
years agowas the right choice!

Just as an aside to this... when I followed your instructions to turn off
this feature, Jaws only read the On/Off switch button as "checked" so it was
really unclear as to what I was checking or unchecking. I unloaded Jaws and
loaded System Access. System Access announced "Switch button On" and "Switch
button Off", which helped me to know for sure that I was actually turning
this feature off.

Thanks Mark for bringing this to our attention! You saved me much bandwidth,
I'm sure! :)

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'Jaws for Windows' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mark <facebookmark@candleshoreblog.com>
Subject: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO)

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service.

1.
Click the Windows 10 "Start Button" and select Settings

2.
Select Update & security from the Settings menu.

3.
Click Advanced options

4.
Click Choose how updates are delivered

5.
Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off

6.
All done!


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Re: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Daniel McBride
 

Carolyn:

Please email me off list. The address is below.

Daniel
dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:29 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Daniel, I did the Insert Shift R, hope this is off list. I'm still a bit on
the crippled side since getting Outlook Saturday night with my new computer.


Thanks for your encouragement.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Daniel McBride <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Carolyn:

Absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Also, would you please contact
me off list again.

Daniel McBride
dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was
very embarrassed that this came up in this list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: Disappointing news.

Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for
evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history,
as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate
for inpatient treatment at their facility.



They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her
medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has
already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone.



It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did,
but those were a nice couple of months.



Please keep her in your prayers.



Best from,



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Re: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

Insert Shift R hasn't worked for me for a very long time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:28 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address,so without sounding like a mod,please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Daniel, I did the Insert Shift R, hope this is off list. I'm still a bit on
the crippled side since getting Outlook Saturday night with my new computer.


Thanks for your encouragement.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Daniel McBride <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Carolyn:

Absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Also, would you please contact
me off list again.

Daniel McBride
dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was
very embarrassed that this came up in this list.

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Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for
evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history,
as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate
for inpatient treatment at their facility.



They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her
medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has
already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone.



It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did,
but those were a nice couple of months.



Please keep her in your prayers.



Best from,



Carolyn



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Re: Learning JAWS scripting

Mario
 

Paul, to get a copy, I Google "Everything you wanted to know about scripting but didn't know who to ask." by Kenneth A. Gould, and the 7th result is a download of the file.

upon looking for it, I came across a couple of references that the document was produced in the early days before JAWS version 6, probably before 3.0, when information about writing scripts was scarce, and for that time, was the best for getting newbees started. But over the years, it was superseded by another document named "the basics of scripting" that combines Gould's document with the improvements in the JSL. but is still considered a good document to help get newbees started. there was also a mention of a repository called FSDN which contains help references to the various commands used in the JSL.

the other resources you mentioned also would be useful as the utilities that were mentioned was made by seasoned scripters.

but like I previously mentioned, I still maintain that in order to do meaty scripting needs knowledge of programming concepts, and in Gould's document, between the first part and the second part, something is missing, maybe not for a programmer, but for a newbee there certainly is.

On 8/13/2015 6:50 PM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
Thanks, Mario. I like your idea of a sort of, "let's learn how to program -
using JAWS scripting". It makes a lot of sense to teach basic programming,
using JSL as an example. The idea has a lot of merit.

While looking for Kenneth Gould article, I found this:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/jawsscripting.html
Looks like some valuable information. But if you know where the Gould
article is, could you email the address? Or post it here? Or to my blog? Or
all of the above... LOL

I'll put in as much time on this as I can, but it's one of those big
projects. I need to review all the available information first. Then
actually become competent with JSL, otherwise I'm just blowing hot air.
Finally, I can move forward with some kind of wikibook. Anyhow, I'll blog as
I go.

Thanks for the feedback.
-Paul




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Paul, since no one has responded, here's my thought:

in addition to your ideas, what the blind user who wants to get into
writing
JAWS scripts really needs is to learn basic concepts of programming in
order
to do the nifty stuff, like using functions, arrays, etc.

about 12 years ago when I tried my hand at scripting,there was a document
called "Everything you wanted to know about scripting, ...", written by
Kenneth A. Gould. I think it's still on FS's website or some where
else... it
was divided into two parts.

the first part dealt with the basic stuff, like how to get started,
syntax, etc.
but the second part dealt with stuff that assumed that the user had prior
programming knowledge about concepts, techniques, etc.
like the knowledge one would attain after programming for a while... a
good while.

since you've programmed for about 3 decades,... I think it was you, ...
you could fill in the missing explanation that a newbie would need to
comprehend before attempting to try their hand at scripting.

creating a wiki sounds like a good idea, this way other experienced
programmers could also contribute to the cause, working out explainations
of different concepts, and whatever else would be important. but it should
be that a newbie needs to register and login in order to read and/or
contribute. and I'd also suggest that only the experienced programmers
have the right to add/modify these materials that teach the needed
concepts and explainations, effectively preventing mis information by any
newbie. the experienced programmer who would want to contribute would
have to send an email request , to you?, to be approved. if this last part
doesn't sit well with you, something has to be done to ensure that the
newbie is not mis informed of explainations and whatever else would be
important to understand.

your thoughts?


On 8/12/2015 2:53 PM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
Hi all. A few days ago, there was some discussion on learning JAWS
scripting. I've started learning it myself, and wanted to post some
thoughts.

First, I've decided to blog about JSL as I learn it. My blog page is
here:
https://skewmatrix.wordpress.com/ . No advertisements or popups, just
straight information about JSL whenever I learn something interesting.
The "JSL #1" post enumerates the available JAWS Scripting Language
resources that I've found. Please post comments if you know of other
resources.

Second, I'm toying with the idea of starting an online book project
about JSL, for example at wikibooks.com. The advantage of putting this
book online as a wikibook is that the information would be much more
likely to stay up-to-date and relevant; people could immediately
correct any typos or mistakes; and of course the book would be free to
all and readily available online. I have written technical books in
the past, so this wouldn't be too much of a stretch for me. (I just
need to learn it first. Ha ha.)

The question is: In light of the wonderful documentation from Freedom
Scientific that is already available, what kind of content would I /
we need to provide in this new online resource in order to make it
worthwhile? What would you like to know about JSL that you can't
already learn from the FS docs? Would we want something like a brief
overview of JAWS scripting? Or maybe a "quick start guide" to get you
up and running with the basics? Or possibly a "scripting gems" kind of
book, with several examples of JAWS scripts? Or a language reference?
Or all of the above? Of course, "we don't need this, the FS docs are
fine" is
also an acceptable response.

Any thoughts or comments... Thanks...
-Paul



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Re: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Unfortunately, that command hasn't worked in many moons.

I've been kicked off lists so many times by making that mistake, only
because my emails were rated r...

Colorful language lol...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:29 PM
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Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without
sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.

Daniel, I did the Insert Shift R, hope this is off list. I'm still a bit on
the crippled side since getting Outlook Saturday night with my new computer.


Thanks for your encouragement.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Carolyn:

Absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Also, would you please contact
me off list again.

Daniel McBride
dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net

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I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was
very embarrassed that this came up in this list.

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Subject: Disappointing news.

Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for
evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history,
as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate
for inpatient treatment at their facility.



They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her
medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has
already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone.



It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did,
but those were a nice couple of months.



Please keep her in your prayers.



Best from,



Carolyn



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