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Re: How To Stop Windows 10's Prying Eyes

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Speaking of privacy issues, Good Computer Guy told us Sunday that their
company already had six calls for service, where Edge was contaminated by
viruses.


Best from,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:06 PM
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Cc: Mark <facebookmark@candleshoreblog.com>
Subject: How To Stop Windows 10's Prying Eyes

Hello Everyone,

I strongly suggest that anyone who has already installed or is considering
installing Windows 10, read this article, the link to which may be found at
the bottom of the text.

Mark

How To Stop Windows 10's Prying Eyes

Windows 10 is here, and Microsoft's latest operating system is designed for
a mobile-first, cloud-first future, as CEO Satya Nadella puts it. But that
future relies on big data - your data - and by default, Windows 10 can track
and share the websites you visit, the purchases you make, the places you go,
the words you type, the things you say and more.

You have the ability to control Windows 10's data collection, but it takes
some doing. The installation process lets you customize privacy settings at
the end or go with the defaults in "express settings." We'd suggest taking
the extra two minutes to forgo the latter and make your own choices here, or
adjusting the options after installation, because Microsoft's default
privacy settings might not be as private as you'd like.

The first page of settings lists four options that you can toggle on or off,
while the second page lists five items. All of them are on by default.

Under "Personalization," the first setting tailors your "speech, typing and
inking input" to the way you talk, type and write ... "by sending contacts
and calendar details, along with other associated input data to Microsoft."
The next setting sends typing and inking data to Microsoft to "improve the
recognition and suggestion platform."


Must Read
Windows 10 may do the impossible: help Microsoft win back the hearts of PC
gamers Some people may be comfortable with this usage; after all,
third-party smartphone keyboards like SwiftKey improve their autocorrect
functionality by learning how you type. But for others, sharing "contacts
and calendar details" may be a bridge too far.

Next is a rather nebulous entry: "Let apps use your advertising ID for
experiences across apps." What this sentence doesn't quite explain is that
Windows 10 generates a unique advertising ID for each user. If this option
is enabled, it allows app developers and ad networks to profile you using
that ID and serve you ads based on how you use your PC.

The final part of the first settings page concerns location. Your computer
may not have a GPS radio in it like your smartphone does, but if you're
connected to the internet, your location can be tracked through your IP
address. With this option enabled, you're allowing Windows and apps to
request your location, including your location history. That's useful for
location-based services like, say, telling a retailer's website where you
are so it can give you the address of the nearest store.

However, the location setting also lets Windows 10 "send Microsoft and
trusted partners some location data to improve location services." That part
of the equation may give you pause, especially since you have no say in what
Microsoft's "trusted partners" might be. (ExtremeTech reports that the
Windows 8 installation process included a similar setting, but without the
sharing of your data with so-called trusted partners.)

Let's move to page two. The first toggle in the browser section enables
Microsoft's SmartScreen Filter, which protects you against "malicious
content and downloads" in Windows browsers - Microsoft Edge, which debuts in
Windows 10, and Internet Explorer - and Windows Store apps. That sounds
pretty good! Next is a setting for page prediction, which sends your
browsing data to Microsoft to "improve reading, speed up browsing, and make
your overall experience better in Windows browsers." You may have a similar
feature enabled in your existing web browser, such as Google Chrome.


The next two options govern the way your PC connects to wireless networks,
as part of a new Windows 10 feature called Wi-Fi Sense. The first setting
lets you automatically connect to "suggested open hotspots," while the
second does the same for "networks shared by your contacts."

According to Microsoft's Wi-Fi Sense FAQ, the former setting relies on
Microsoft's crowdsourced database of open Wi-Fi hotspots. If enough people
get a good-quality connection from a hotspot, it'll be added to the
database.

The second setting is meant to eliminate the hassle of asking a friend for
their Wi-Fi password when you visit their place. If enabled, the setting
does two things: (1) allows you to select Wi-Fi networks to share with your
Outlook.com contacts, Skype contacts or Facebook friends, and (2) lets your
PC automatically connect to networks people have shared with you.

The way this works is that Wi-Fi passwords are shared through Wi-Fi Sense.
The passwords are encrypted, and Wi-Fi Sense only provides internet access,
not file sharing access. But those encrypted passwords are stored on a
Microsoft server somewhere. And there's no granularity: If you click the
Facebook check box, Wi-Fi Sense will allow all of your Facebook friends to
connect to networks you've selected for sharing.

The final setting during Windows 10's installation process lets your
computer "send error and diagnostic information to Microsoft." So if
something goes wrong with your PC in the future, it can send details of the
situation to Microsoft, and the company can hopefully use that data to help
find you a solution to the issue.


Adjusting privacy after installing Windows 10 If you did just click "express
settings" during the Windows 10 installation, that's OK: You can still
change any of these settings whenever you want.
Microsoft offers a guide with a laughable lack of specifics on how to do
this, so here are some details.

Instead of visiting the Control Panel, like you might be accustomed to
doing, open the Start menu (yes, it's back!) and click on Settings in the
lower left area. (You can also reach the system settings by opening up
Windows 10's new Action Center - click on the speech bubble near the right
end of the taskbar, then click "All settings.")

Most of the aforementioned toggles can be found under Privacy. That section
also contains a host of other privacy settings, like options for which apps
are allowed to access your PC's location, camera, microphone, contacts,
calendar and more. To get to the Wi-Fi Sense options, click Network &
Internet in the system settings, then hit "Manage Wi-Fi settings" below the
list of available networks.

Hey, Cortana
Cortana, Microsoft's voice-powered digital assistant - and yes, she's named
after the Halo character - is integrated directly into Windows 10. She's
undeniably useful, able to search your computer and the internet through
voice commands initiated with the phrase "hey, Cortana." She also offers
Google Now-like features such as presenting you with news, sports scores,
alerts, reminders and more.

But like Google with Google Now, Apple with Siri and Amazon with the Echo,
Microsoft needs to collect a lot of data about you and how you use the
internet in order to deliver that magical-seeming functionality. Here's a
relevant excerpt from Microsoft's privacy statement:

To enable Cortana to provide personalized experiences and relevant
suggestions, Microsoft collects and uses various types of data, such as your
device location, data from your calendar, the apps you use, data from your
emails and text messages, who you call, your contacts and how often you
interact with them on your device. Cortana also learns about you by
collecting data about how you use your device and other Microsoft services,
such as your music, alarm settings, whether the lock screen is on, what you
view and purchase, your browse and Bing search history, and more.
Cortana also analyzes your speech data, of course, and that information is
"sent to Microsoft to build personalized speech models and improve speech
recognition." Again, this kind of tracking is common to all these services,
because they couldn't function without it. But if you're not comfortable
with it, you can click the search bar that's embedded in the Windows 10
taskbar, then click the gear icon on the left side to access your Cortana
settings. There, you can turn Cortana on or off, and manage the information
about you that Cortana keeps in the cloud.

Personalized advertising
The last piece of the privacy puzzle isn't in Windows 10 at all; it's
located on a website, as Rock, Paper, Shotgun points out. On that site,
Microsoft makes the case for tailoring ads to your interests, and indeed,
that's something you may want. But the company lets you opt out of ad
personalization in two separate situations: in your browser, and "wherever I
use my Microsoft account," which includes Windows, Xbox and other Microsoft
services.

Read the fine print
As we've noted above, online services that rely on the collection of mounds
of user data are only becoming more ubiquitous. These services look to make
our lives easier by learning how we live, work and play so they can
anticipate our next move, satisfying our desires before we even express
them.

it's worth knowing what you're signing up for There's a larger conversation
to be had about whether, or to what extent, we should be entrusting our
ever-growing digital footprints to corporations like Microsoft, Apple,
Google, Facebook and Amazon. But whichever side of the debate you fall on,
it's worth knowing what you're signing up for when you scroll past the next
end-user license agreement you see.

Article at:
http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/31/9075531/windows-10-privacy-how-to





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Re: stop the "clickable"

Michael B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Mario,

You can try the following:
In "Settings Center"
under the "Web / HTML / PDFs"
category, there is a subcategory labeled
"Miscellaneous"
Under "Miscellaneous"
there is a setting labeled
"Indicate Element Attribute"
Unchecking this setting will stop Jaws from saying
"Clickable"
Although it's not recommended since there are times when you will miss
out on elements of webpages that may be useful and are clickable.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iGoDodgersBarstool.

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Subject: stop the "clickable"


I recall this issue being discussed but don't recall if a definite
solution was given:
for future reference, what is a "clickable" item and how is it
activated, because pressing enter or the space bar doesn't seam to do
anything? and how to stop JAWS from announcing "clickable" when
reviewing the contents of web pages in either using Firefox or Internet
Explorer(or any other browser)?


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How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

Mark <facebookmark@...>
 

Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO)

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service.

1.
Click the Windows 10 "Start Button" and select Settings

2.
Select Update & security from the Settings menu.

3.
Click Advanced options

4.
Click Choose how updates are delivered

5.
Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off

6.
All done!


How To Stop Windows 10's Prying Eyes

Mark <facebookmark@...>
 

Hello Everyone,

I strongly suggest that anyone who has already installed or is considering
installing Windows 10, read this article, the link to which may be found at
the bottom of the text.

Mark

How To Stop Windows 10's Prying Eyes

Windows 10 is here, and Microsoft's latest operating system is designed for
a mobile-first, cloud-first future, as CEO Satya Nadella puts it. But that
future relies on big data - your data - and by default, Windows 10 can track
and share the websites you visit, the purchases you make, the places you go,
the words you type, the things you say and more.

You have the ability to control Windows 10's data collection, but it takes
some doing. The installation process lets you customize privacy settings at
the end or go with the defaults in "express settings." We'd suggest taking
the extra two minutes to forgo the latter and make your own choices here, or
adjusting the options after installation, because Microsoft's default
privacy settings might not be as private as you'd like.

The first page of settings lists four options that you can toggle on or off,
while the second page lists five items. All of them are on by default.

Under "Personalization," the first setting tailors your "speech, typing and
inking input" to the way you talk, type and write ... "by sending contacts
and calendar details, along with other associated input data to Microsoft."
The next setting sends typing and inking data to Microsoft to "improve the
recognition and suggestion platform."


Must Read
Windows 10 may do the impossible: help Microsoft win back the hearts of PC
gamers Some people may be comfortable with this usage; after all,
third-party smartphone keyboards like SwiftKey improve their autocorrect
functionality by learning how you type. But for others, sharing "contacts
and calendar details" may be a bridge too far.

Next is a rather nebulous entry: "Let apps use your advertising ID for
experiences across apps." What this sentence doesn't quite explain is that
Windows 10 generates a unique advertising ID for each user. If this option
is enabled, it allows app developers and ad networks to profile you using
that ID and serve you ads based on how you use your PC.

The final part of the first settings page concerns location. Your computer
may not have a GPS radio in it like your smartphone does, but if you're
connected to the internet, your location can be tracked through your IP
address. With this option enabled, you're allowing Windows and apps to
request your location, including your location history. That's useful for
location-based services like, say, telling a retailer's website where you
are so it can give you the address of the nearest store.

However, the location setting also lets Windows 10 "send Microsoft and
trusted partners some location data to improve location services." That part
of the equation may give you pause, especially since you have no say in what
Microsoft's "trusted partners" might be. (ExtremeTech reports that the
Windows 8 installation process included a similar setting, but without the
sharing of your data with so-called trusted partners.)

Let's move to page two. The first toggle in the browser section enables
Microsoft's SmartScreen Filter, which protects you against "malicious
content and downloads" in Windows browsers - Microsoft Edge, which debuts in
Windows 10, and Internet Explorer - and Windows Store apps. That sounds
pretty good! Next is a setting for page prediction, which sends your
browsing data to Microsoft to "improve reading, speed up browsing, and make
your overall experience better in Windows browsers." You may have a similar
feature enabled in your existing web browser, such as Google Chrome.


The next two options govern the way your PC connects to wireless networks,
as part of a new Windows 10 feature called Wi-Fi Sense. The first setting
lets you automatically connect to "suggested open hotspots," while the
second does the same for "networks shared by your contacts."

According to Microsoft's Wi-Fi Sense FAQ, the former setting relies on
Microsoft's crowdsourced database of open Wi-Fi hotspots. If enough people
get a good-quality connection from a hotspot, it'll be added to the
database.

The second setting is meant to eliminate the hassle of asking a friend for
their Wi-Fi password when you visit their place. If enabled, the setting
does two things: (1) allows you to select Wi-Fi networks to share with your
Outlook.com contacts, Skype contacts or Facebook friends, and (2) lets your
PC automatically connect to networks people have shared with you.

The way this works is that Wi-Fi passwords are shared through Wi-Fi Sense.
The passwords are encrypted, and Wi-Fi Sense only provides internet access,
not file sharing access. But those encrypted passwords are stored on a
Microsoft server somewhere. And there's no granularity: If you click the
Facebook check box, Wi-Fi Sense will allow all of your Facebook friends to
connect to networks you've selected for sharing.

The final setting during Windows 10's installation process lets your
computer "send error and diagnostic information to Microsoft." So if
something goes wrong with your PC in the future, it can send details of the
situation to Microsoft, and the company can hopefully use that data to help
find you a solution to the issue.


Adjusting privacy after installing Windows 10
If you did just click "express settings" during the Windows 10 installation,
that's OK: You can still change any of these settings whenever you want.
Microsoft offers a guide with a laughable lack of specifics on how to do
this, so here are some details.

Instead of visiting the Control Panel, like you might be accustomed to
doing, open the Start menu (yes, it's back!) and click on Settings in the
lower left area. (You can also reach the system settings by opening up
Windows 10's new Action Center - click on the speech bubble near the right
end of the taskbar, then click "All settings.")

Most of the aforementioned toggles can be found under Privacy. That section
also contains a host of other privacy settings, like options for which apps
are allowed to access your PC's location, camera, microphone, contacts,
calendar and more. To get to the Wi-Fi Sense options, click Network &
Internet in the system settings, then hit "Manage Wi-Fi settings" below the
list of available networks.

Hey, Cortana
Cortana, Microsoft's voice-powered digital assistant - and yes, she's named
after the Halo character - is integrated directly into Windows 10. She's
undeniably useful, able to search your computer and the internet through
voice commands initiated with the phrase "hey, Cortana." She also offers
Google Now-like features such as presenting you with news, sports scores,
alerts, reminders and more.

But like Google with Google Now, Apple with Siri and Amazon with the Echo,
Microsoft needs to collect a lot of data about you and how you use the
internet in order to deliver that magical-seeming functionality. Here's a
relevant excerpt from Microsoft's privacy statement:

To enable Cortana to provide personalized experiences and relevant
suggestions, Microsoft collects and uses various types of data, such as your
device location, data from your calendar, the apps you use, data from your
emails and text messages, who you call, your contacts and how often you
interact with them on your device. Cortana also learns about you by
collecting data about how you use your device and other Microsoft services,
such as your music, alarm settings, whether the lock screen is on, what you
view and purchase, your browse and Bing search history, and more.
Cortana also analyzes your speech data, of course, and that information is
"sent to Microsoft to build personalized speech models and improve speech
recognition." Again, this kind of tracking is common to all these services,
because they couldn't function without it. But if you're not comfortable
with it, you can click the search bar that's embedded in the Windows 10
taskbar, then click the gear icon on the left side to access your Cortana
settings. There, you can turn Cortana on or off, and manage the information
about you that Cortana keeps in the cloud.

Personalized advertising
The last piece of the privacy puzzle isn't in Windows 10 at all; it's
located on a website, as Rock, Paper, Shotgun points out. On that site,
Microsoft makes the case for tailoring ads to your interests, and indeed,
that's something you may want. But the company lets you opt out of ad
personalization in two separate situations: in your browser, and "wherever I
use my Microsoft account," which includes Windows, Xbox and other Microsoft
services.

Read the fine print
As we've noted above, online services that rely on the collection of mounds
of user data are only becoming more ubiquitous. These services look to make
our lives easier by learning how we live, work and play so they can
anticipate our next move, satisfying our desires before we even express
them.

it's worth knowing what you're signing up for
There's a larger conversation to be had about whether, or to what extent, we
should be entrusting our ever-growing digital footprints to corporations
like Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook and Amazon. But whichever side of
the debate you fall on, it's worth knowing what you're signing up for when
you scroll past the next end-user license agreement you see.

Article at:
http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/31/9075531/windows-10-privacy-how-to


Re: Upgraded to Windows 10 And Have a Question

 

Hi Jim,
They're buried in various places such as Settings/Privacy category (that's where you should start).
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Portillo via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:41:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Upgraded to Windows 10 And Have a Question

Oh wow. I wasn't aware of this settings thing. Now that I have it, where can I go to customize my privacy settings? I'd like to do that ASAP!
Jim


Sent from my iPhone 6!

On Aug 11, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Mark via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I decided to take the plunge and upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10
Enterprise.

I am delighted to say that all seems well, so far. I had to use Narrator
during the installation because I began the upgrade process before reading
the Freedom Scientific Windows updating page. I'm certain the process would
have gone much more smoothly if I had but, what's done is done. During the
upgrade process, I was careful to use the custom settings path, as opposed
to the express setup, to insure that Windows 10 Privacy settings were
adjusted to my comfort level. Left unchallenged, Windows 10 will attempt to
tap into virtually everything you do and share that info with Microsoft.

My question:

Is there a specific Jaws user email list or forum for those using Windows
10? Or is this still the best place to discuss Windows 10/Jaws.

Oh, one more thing, as yet, I have not installed any third-party apps on my
notebook aside from Office 2007, which was installed prior to the update to
Windows 10.

While I own both Office 2010 professional and Office 2013 Professional, I
see no reason to update to either since 2007 Professional works just fine
for me.

I hope you are all having a great day.

Mark


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Re: Upgraded to Windows 10 And Have a Question

Jim Portillo
 

Oh wow. I wasn't aware of this settings thing. Now that I have it, where can I go to customize my privacy settings? I'd like to do that ASAP!
Jim


Sent from my iPhone 6!

On Aug 11, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Mark via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I decided to take the plunge and upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10
Enterprise.

I am delighted to say that all seems well, so far. I had to use Narrator
during the installation because I began the upgrade process before reading
the Freedom Scientific Windows updating page. I'm certain the process would
have gone much more smoothly if I had but, what's done is done. During the
upgrade process, I was careful to use the custom settings path, as opposed
to the express setup, to insure that Windows 10 Privacy settings were
adjusted to my comfort level. Left unchallenged, Windows 10 will attempt to
tap into virtually everything you do and share that info with Microsoft.

My question:

Is there a specific Jaws user email list or forum for those using Windows
10? Or is this still the best place to discuss Windows 10/Jaws.

Oh, one more thing, as yet, I have not installed any third-party apps on my
notebook aside from Office 2007, which was installed prior to the update to
Windows 10.

While I own both Office 2010 professional and Office 2013 Professional, I
see no reason to update to either since 2007 Professional works just fine
for me.

I hope you are all having a great day.

Mark


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stop the "clickable"

Mario
 

I recall this issue being discussed but don't recall if a definite solution was given:
for future reference, what is a "clickable" item and how is it activated, because pressing enter or the space bar doesn't seam to do anything? and how to stop JAWS from announcing "clickable" when reviewing the contents of web pages in either using Firefox or Internet Explorer(or any other browser)?


Re: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Can''t imagine that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@bmo.com>
Subject: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

Hi, I posted this once before but didn't get any feedback. When I am on
gmail, it seems when I have cleaned up a bunch of old emails suddenly jaws
starts speaking French but only when typing. When I read back what I have
typed it is read in English. I have language detection off. It is only
when on the browser that this is happening. If I alt tab away and back the
issue remains. If I switch to another program jaws behaves normally but
begins again when I switch back to the browser.
The only way to correct this is to unload and reload jaws.
I just wondered if any one else has seen this very strange behaviour.
Tom Bisset

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Re: shutting down.....

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Mine does that too and no musical sound coming or going.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mark Furness <flintman57@gmail.com>
Subject: shutting down.....

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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Re: shutting down.....

Mark <facebookmark@...>
 

Hello,

The announcement does not occur when I shut down my Windows 10 computer.

Please keep in mind that since Windows 8, unless one specifically disables
the Fast User Switching option, the computer does not shut down in the sense
that we have come to understand the term in prior versions of Windows.
Instead, the default shut down option in both Windows 8.x and 10 places the
computer in a kind of hibernation mode preserving certain settings.

In order to truly shut down the computer, in the classic meaning of the
phrase, one must disable the fast-user switching located in the power
options settings of the OS. Once done, (1) Jaws will no longer announce
itself and (2) the computer will truly be shut down as it was in Windows 7
and earlier.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Londa Peterson
Subject: RE: shutting down.....

This is normal. It's been doing that since Windows 8.1. It surprised me at
first as well.

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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: shutting down.....

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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Re: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. Why not go into the Settings Center of JAWS while in your browser, find Language Detection, and turn it off. I know you said Language Detection is off, but possibly not in both applications.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@bmo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:43 PM
Subject: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH


Hi, I posted this once before but didn't get any feedback. When I am on gmail, it seems when I have cleaned up a bunch of old emails suddenly jaws starts speaking French but only when typing. When I read back what I have typed it is read in English. I have language detection off. It is only when on the browser that this is happening. If I alt tab away and back the issue remains. If I switch to another program jaws behaves normally but begins again when I switch back to the browser.
The only way to correct this is to unload and reload jaws.
I just wondered if any one else has seen this very strange behaviour.
Tom Bisset

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Re: shutting down.....

Michael Mote
 

If you're running Windows 10, yes. My computer does that as well.

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Subject: shutting down.....

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

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Re: shutting down.....

Londa Peterson
 

This is normal. It's been doing that since Windows 8.1. It surprised me at
first as well.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
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Subject: shutting down.....

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

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shutting down.....

Mark Furness
 

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark


MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

Hi, I posted this once before but didn't get any feedback. When I am on gmail, it seems when I have cleaned up a bunch of old emails suddenly jaws starts speaking French but only when typing. When I read back what I have typed it is read in English. I have language detection off. It is only when on the browser that this is happening. If I alt tab away and back the issue remains. If I switch to another program jaws behaves normally but begins again when I switch back to the browser.
The only way to correct this is to unload and reload jaws.
I just wondered if any one else has seen this very strange behaviour.
Tom Bisset


Re: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I'd give them five stars.

-----Original Message-----
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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:29 PM
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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

They've got a bunch of good ones, all right, and it's been that way
throughout my tenure as a customer. The mail support folks are good too.

Ted

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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

We needed to call them this morning, because my Num Lock kept knocking on.
We got Eric, and he was as nice as Customer Service there has been to me in
the past - cheers, I'm thankful for that.



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Re: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

They've got a bunch of good ones, all right, and it's been that way throughout my tenure as a customer. The mail support folks are good too.

Ted

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We needed to call them this morning, because my Num Lock kept knocking on.
We got Eric, and he was as nice as Customer Service there has been to me in the past - cheers, I'm thankful for that.



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Upgraded to Windows 10 And Have a Question

Mark <facebookmark@...>
 

Hello Everyone,

I decided to take the plunge and upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10
Enterprise.

I am delighted to say that all seems well, so far. I had to use Narrator
during the installation because I began the upgrade process before reading
the Freedom Scientific Windows updating page. I'm certain the process would
have gone much more smoothly if I had but, what's done is done. During the
upgrade process, I was careful to use the custom settings path, as opposed
to the express setup, to insure that Windows 10 Privacy settings were
adjusted to my comfort level. Left unchallenged, Windows 10 will attempt to
tap into virtually everything you do and share that info with Microsoft.

My question:

Is there a specific Jaws user email list or forum for those using Windows
10? Or is this still the best place to discuss Windows 10/Jaws.

Oh, one more thing, as yet, I have not installed any third-party apps on my
notebook aside from Office 2007, which was installed prior to the update to
Windows 10.

While I own both Office 2010 professional and Office 2013 Professional, I
see no reason to update to either since 2007 Professional works just fine
for me.

I hope you are all having a great day.

Mark


Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Lile,

I think if the help tutorial wasn't updated, it will be present in later
versions of Jaws. I will probably go and revisit that tutorial again, as
it's been a couple of years since I listened to it.

Les

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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

And the best part is JAWS help for Office 2007 has a really good short
course on using the ribbon. I haven't checked to see if it's duplicated for
later versions of office, but 2007 was the ribbon's initial debut.

Ted

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:53 PM
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS
ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means
we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online
solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems
regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the
virtual ribbon.

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the
keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are
given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with
the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because
virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the
ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that
was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more
trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but
for now, I won't be using that feature.

Les

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or
where I am?

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Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys
plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS
instructions while navigating.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate
for ribbon information?

Carolyn


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White via Jfw
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Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this:
JAWS put in the "Virtual Ribbon" for those who wanted to manually
navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed
to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true
in most instances.

Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon
without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual
Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to
check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the
function of some of the shortcuts.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I
followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are
easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing
this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks.

Les

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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which
is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually
impaired users.
Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you
get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking
this option need to be aware of the consequences.

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White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to
Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that
this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and
Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You
want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to
work
properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and
press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

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White via Jfw
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Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

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Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013,
and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

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Barbara Hansen via Jfw
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Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the
suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this.
The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up
the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It
just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Bill, you're good. I had phone calls, all kind of interruptions, but finally
got it sent, then proven in sent messages.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Hi, Carolyn. I wanted to explain a little more in depth how to send an
attachment in Outlook.

1. Find the file you want to attach to your letter.
2. Copy it to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.
3. Open Outlook, and open a new message to the person you want to send it
to.
4. Once the new message is open, use CONTROL plus V to paste the attachment
directly into the message.
5. Press Enter, and begin composing the body of your e-mail message.
6. Send the message.

That's it. The attachment will be in the message. If you want to verify
this, go to your Sent Messages folder, open the message you sent, SHIFT plus
tab until you hear it say Attachments, and check your attachment.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws


Thanks, finally did figure that one out.

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook?

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Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add.

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It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another
problem solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to
the dictionary I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold



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When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to
other portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have
unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total,
then give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though.

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the
e-mail to Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I
attempted to send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to
block it.

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook,
but does apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary,
since Control A is not doing that; also I want to know what commands
to give Spell Check to make the change I want.

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Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the
number of messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole
ribbon just doesn't make much sense to me. Is there another, more
accessible, and hopefully free mail client I can switch to?



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