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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I
followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier
to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it
matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks.

Les

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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the
FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users.
Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get
used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option
need to be aware of the consequences.

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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
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Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open
Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this
setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter
D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down
Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to
be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press
Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

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Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual
Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under
Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed
by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws
speaks.

Les

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Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and
pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up "Current
view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

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Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
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Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion
to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The
suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the
ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just
says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I down arrow to list the results.
I think it would be annoying if jaws read hundreds of results
automatically...

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Cc: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Subject: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

Dear List,



I wanted to let you all know that the latest version of WindowEyes (9.2.1)
does read search results automatically in Windows 10. So, if you have
Office 2010 or later, you can take advantage of this by installing
WindowEyes for Office users, at least until FS releases a fix.



Michal

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Re: repairing jaws

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi,

Can you provide the syntax for repairing Jaws from the command line? I
tried the syntax provided on this ist, but all I heard was Jaws
Professional. I did some troubleshooting with an FS rep last week and I was
able to type in Jaws16 followed by another syntax and that worked, so I
think Jaws16 is being seen. Thanks.

Les

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Cc: Nicki keck <jesusgirl71@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

I am not the one who tried to connect to his computer, but I did get him
afterward. Whenever he calls in, we groan because honestly, the man cannot
hear what you say to him. If you connect to him via tandem, the way you
have to give him the code is he will say,
"1, 2, 3" and you stop him at the right number/letter. H knows how many
letters and numbers, but still.

When I got him, he asked me if it was hard to repair JAWS. I told him it
might be or might not, as that is subjective, but I did think it would be
hard for me to try to explain to him how to do it. I knew I'd never get
across to him how to do it with his hearing problems. He didn't understand
and just kept asking if it is hard to repair JAWS. I finally told him it
might or might not be depending on his computer abilities and I don't know
if he understood, but he hung up. That is why whoever it was probably told
him he needed a sighted person because if she couldn't stay connected, then
trying to walk him through it would be impossible, and I am not
exaggerating. Usually, if you try to explain something to him, he will
eventually try to get one of his family members on the phone and have you
explain it to them and then they will yell loudly to him and try to get him
to understand. Usually they will tell him something bluntly like Addison
you can't do it or Addison you have to upgrade JAWS or whatever and tell him
they'll come over and help him later. He doesn't necessarily need a sighted
person, but he does need someone who can hear. Doubt anyone who could come
to help him would be blind and hearing so in that case a sighted person
would be necessary. He is really hard to work with. If you can get
connected via tandem, what Keith has done, and it was actually a good idea,
is to open his notepad and type to him what he wanted to say and then have
JAWS read it to him. He seems to be able to understand JAWS better. But he
needs to be using relay, and if there are connection problems with tandem
then it's hopless, literally. I might have tried to help him with tandem
but he just kept asking is it hard to repair JAWS and I couldn't get
anything at all across to him.


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Gethers via Jfw
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Subject: FW: repairing jaws



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: FW: repairing jaws



-----Original Message-----
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Hello there,
I need to know how to repaired Jaws 16 ? I never know how to repaired jaws
and download from fs website but I have jaws 16 disc !! One of FS support
was trying to do it for me but when she try to jaws tandem she couldn't stay
connect because jaws crashed so she told me that I need to repaired jaws and
download from FS website ! Here what she say in e-mail below !!
Hi,

Here is what I was trying to say on the phone. It seems to me that your jaws
needs to be repaired. when I tried to do tandem while we were on the phone,
jaws stopped speaking and then the tandem crashed, and I could not stay
connected to your computer. it would be helpful if there was a sighted
person on hand to help do the repair since I cannot stay connected to your
computer through tandem. In order to repair jaws, we need to download jaws
from the freedom scientific web site, and then run a repair.

Is it hard for me to repaired jaws without sighter help and I'm hard of
hearing ?
Addison


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 11:06 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Hi,

I typed from the run dialog, jaws16 /type repair and only heard Jaws
Professional. Can you provide the syntax again? Thanks.

Les

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via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 10:25 PM
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Cc: Mike and Jenna
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Hi,

I am not sure if this has been responded to or not but if you go to the run
box brous to ware you have your jaws.exe then hitand hit space and at the
end do /type repair and that will work as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:56 AM
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Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Mark, I think if you run the jfw.exe file, you will eventually be given an
option to perform a repair of Jaws.

Les

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:52 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: repairing jaws

Every time I start my computer, jaws keeps on saying there is 2 things that
are not installed correctly. I have tried a reboot as it suggested. But,
that did not fix the problem. It also suggested to do a repair. All I haave
is the downloaded filees. How then do I do a repair?

Thank you for getting me out of this mess!!!

Mark
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

There is a Santa Claus!!! And, in August, too!

Many, many, many thanks.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:52 PM
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Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Keith. There is also a very good pdf document with all Outlook2010
keyboard shortcuts.
On Google, Look up the following:

Outlook2010 from the keyboard, pdf, Karlen

If you put those terms into the Google search box exactly as typed, you will
get a page with a pdf document which gives all shortcuts for Outlook2010.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Office 2010 laptop (if that matters). Thanks.

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:08 PM
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Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or
what?
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard
shortcuts? Thank, Keith

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White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM
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Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you
have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are
easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the
Virtual Ribbon.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which
is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually
impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which
is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people
considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
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Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to
Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that
this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and
Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You
want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to
work properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and
press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

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Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

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Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
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Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013,
and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

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Barbara Hansen via Jfw
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Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the
suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this.
The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up
the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It
just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Keith. There is also a very good pdf document with all Outlook2010 keyboard shortcuts.
On Google, Look up the following:

Outlook2010 from the keyboard, pdf, Karlen

If you put those terms into the Google search box exactly as typed, you will get a page with a pdf document which gives all shortcuts for Outlook2010.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Office 2010 laptop (if that matters). Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or what?
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard
shortcuts? Thank, Keith

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White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you
have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are
easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which
is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually
impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which
is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people
considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to
Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that
this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and
Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You
want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to
work properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and
press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013,
and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Barbara Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the
suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this.
The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up
the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It
just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Try this link, Keith.

https://help.rnib.org.uk/help/daily-living/technology/shortcuts-office

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Office 2010 laptop (if that matters). Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or what?
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard
shortcuts? Thank, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you
have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are
easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which
is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually
impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which
is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people
considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to
Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that
this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and
Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You
want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to
work properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and
press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013,
and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Barbara Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the
suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this.
The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up
the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It
just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Office 2010 laptop (if that matters). Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or what?
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard
shortcuts? Thank, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you
have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are
easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which
is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually
impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which
is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people
considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to
Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that
this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and
Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You
want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to
work properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and
press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013,
and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Barbara Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the
suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this.
The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up
the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It
just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Which Keyboard shortcuts are you looking for? Office 2007, Office 2010, or what?
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard shortcuts? Thank, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which
is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually
impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is
fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people
considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to
Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this
setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and
Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You
want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and
press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and
pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Barbara Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion
to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The
suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the
ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just
says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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submitting tickets to Zendesk sites

Brent Harding
 

I need to submit a ticket to a site that uses Zendesk. However, whether I use JFW with Chrome or Firefox, or even try to do it on my phone with iOS, I can't get past the drop down boxes to select the category. They don't identify as any link or combo box for me to use them, and turning virtual cursor off lands me on the wrong category most of the time. Apple and Uber are just two examples of sites that use this. How can I get my ticket submitted?

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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Any ideas where I can get a document that shows all the keyboard shortcuts? Thank, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which
is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually
impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is
fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people
considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to
Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this
setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and
Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You
want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and
press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and
pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Barbara Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion
to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The
suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the
ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just
says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Adrian Spratt
 

Agreed. But that is our preference. I worry that sometimes on this list, as well as at FS tech support, suggestions are made to change or remove this or that setting without alerting users to potential side-effects that we might overlook in the moment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have
access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than
trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is
the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired
users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once
you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking
this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open
Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this
setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter
D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down
Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to
be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press
Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White
via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual
Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under
Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed
by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws
speaks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and
pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up "Current
view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara
Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion
to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The
suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the
ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just
says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: stubborn remnances

Adrian Spratt
 

If I were you, I'd send this query to FS Support.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mario
Subject: stubborn remnances

after running the tool from fs to remove prior versions of JAWS, I
checked the programs and features applett and found:

Freedom Scientific Synthesizer Eloquence Freedom Scientific 7/ 13/ 2015
10.9 MB 6.1.004
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 28/
2012 15.3 MB 13.0.1006.400
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 14.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/
2013 35.2 MB 14.0.6005.400
Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013
12.6.305.0


opting to uninstall the 13 talking installer, I got the following which
also happens with the 14 talking installer:

The feature you are trying to use is on a
network resource that is unavailable.

Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a
folder containing the installation package
'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in the box below.
C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\
OK


The path
'C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\RuntimeJAWS.msi'
cannot be fo und. Verify that you have access to this
location and try again, or try to find the installation package
'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in a folder from which you can install
the product Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0.
Cancel


The installation source for this product is not
available. Verify that the source exists and that you
can access it.

I figure the Eloquence driver and Video Intercept are needed components,
so left those alone.

how to cleanly remove both talking installers?

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Re: stubborn remnances

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Brad. Often, if you go to the Add/Remove and try to uninstall the dead entry, it will tell you that the program is not currently installed, and it will offer to remove it from the Add/Remove list.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: stubborn remnances


It sounds like they're gone; the entries are just listed in Add/Remove Programs? If you look in your Program Files (Or Program Files x86) folders, can you find the actual programs themselves, or are those just dead entries in the Programs & Features Control Panel? If they're just dead entries, they're annoying to look at but shouldn't hurt anything.

Brad

On 8/9/2015 2:42 PM, Mario via Jfw wrote:
after running the tool from fs to remove prior versions of JAWS, I checked the programs and features applett and found:

Freedom Scientific Synthesizer Eloquence Freedom Scientific 7/ 13/ 2015 10.9 MB 6.1.004
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 28/ 2012 15.3 MB 13.0.1006.400
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 14.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013 35.2 MB 14.0.6005.400
Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013 12.6.305.0


opting to uninstall the 13 talking installer, I got the following which also happens with the 14 talking installer:

The feature you are trying to use is on a
network resource that is unavailable.

Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a
folder containing the installation package
'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in the box below.
C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\
OK


The path
'C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\RuntimeJAWS.msi'
cannot be fo und. Verify that you have access to this
location and try again, or try to find the installation package
'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in a folder from which you can install
the product Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0.
Cancel


The installation source for this product is not
available. Verify that the source exists and that you
can access it.

I figure the Eloquence driver and Video Intercept are needed components, so left those alone.

how to cleanly remove both talking installers?

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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

My view is that, if you know all the keyboard shortcuts, or if you have access to a document that shows all of them, the shortcuts are easier than trying to navigate the ribbon, whether or not it is the Virtual Ribbon.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open
Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this
setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter
D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down
Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to
be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press
Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White
via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual
Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under
Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed
by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws
speaks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and
pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up "Current
view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara
Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion
to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The
suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the
ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just
says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: stubborn remnances

Brad Martin
 

It sounds like they're gone; the entries are just listed in Add/Remove Programs? If you look in your Program Files (Or Program Files x86) folders, can you find the actual programs themselves, or are those just dead entries in the Programs & Features Control Panel? If they're just dead entries, they're annoying to look at but shouldn't hurt anything.

Brad

On 8/9/2015 2:42 PM, Mario via Jfw wrote:
after running the tool from fs to remove prior versions of JAWS, I checked the programs and features applett and found:

Freedom Scientific Synthesizer Eloquence Freedom Scientific 7/ 13/ 2015 10.9 MB 6.1.004
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 28/ 2012 15.3 MB 13.0.1006.400
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 14.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013 35.2 MB 14.0.6005.400
Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013 12.6.305.0


opting to uninstall the 13 talking installer, I got the following which also happens with the 14 talking installer:

The feature you are trying to use is on a
network resource that is unavailable.

Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a
folder containing the installation package
'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in the box below.
C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\
OK


The path
'C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\RuntimeJAWS.msi'
cannot be fo und. Verify that you have access to this
location and try again, or try to find the installation package
'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in a folder from which you can install
the product Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0.
Cancel


The installation source for this product is not
available. Verify that the source exists and that you
can access it.

I figure the Eloquence driver and Video Intercept are needed components, so left those alone.

how to cleanly remove both talking installers?

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Possibly Off Topic: Strange Outlook 2010 problem

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.



I have a strange Outlook 2010 problem on my work laptop that I could use
some help with. It is a Windows 7 laptop with Jaws 16.0.4350.



To give a bit of background, I have Outlook 2010 running with two e-mail
accounts. One is my work e-mail account, and the other is my personal
g-mail account for which I use the IMAP interface.



Most of the time, when I write an e-mail in my g-mail IMAP account, two
copies of my note end up in my sent file. I have always thought this to be
a bit strange, but never worried about it too much since most of my e-mails
are simple text messages that don't take up much space. Recently, I have
noticed that sometimes, when I write an e-mail in my personal g-mail
account, one copy of the message goes into my sent file, but the other copy
winds up in the sent file for my work account. I know that the e-mails go
out, but I'm just not sure why this is happening. Furthermore, I can't
find a consistent explanation for, or patterning to this behavior.



Any thoughts on this issue would be appreciated.



If this quiry is considered to be off topic for this list, feel free to
respond to me at:



tombehler@gmail.com



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Pablo Morales
 

Russell, yes you are right. I installed on a old computer and it didn't work
well with any program, it took for ever to open outlook, or just to restart,
jaws wasn't able to read the start menu, and some times crashed. Now I have
on a ACER laptop windows 10 installed, and it is working perfectly. Now I am
installing windows 10 on a dell desktop with an i7 processor, and I will see
how it works, but I believe that the hardware too old, could be a problem on
windows 10, like in whatever operating system or software.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi Adrian,

I think it's more the age of the computer being updated than whether it's
Windows 7 or 8.1... I have an old Lenovo laptop... 10 years old, and I don't
think I'd like to update it to Windows 10... I had Windows 7 on it and
updated it to Windows 8.1 and was sorry because it ran so slow with Windows
8.1.

If you have a relatively new laptop or desktop running Windows 7 I wouldn't
hesitate updating to Windows 10, if you're so inclined.

Cheers,

Russell
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Russell,

To me, you make an argument for Win7 users to stay with Win7 but for Win8
and Win8.1 users maybe to think about it. Nothing I've read suggests any
immediate gains for Win7 users and several negatives. In time, upgrading to
Win10 will be unavoidable.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:20 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi Brad,

I purchased a new laptop last November, a Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 running Windows
8.1. While I did get accustomed to Windows 8.1, I wasn't crazy about it. I
updated to Windows 10, and like the fact that the start menu is back. When I
press the Windows key, I am placed in a search field, similar to Windows 7.
If I down arrow, I am placed in a list of my 6 most used programs, which is
really convenient. I am finding Cortana to work quite well... when she isn't
able to answer my query, she opens up a search page in Bing... wish the
search results could be switched to Google, but at least for now, Bing is
the only choice.

I am looking forward to trying Edge once Jaws support is available for it.

I think whether or not to update to Windows 10 is a very personal choice,
and, I also feel that we shouldn't be advised not to update just because we
use Jaws. Having said that though, I don't think I would have updated if my
laptop wasn't fairly new.

I've been reading the various forums and many people are experiencing
troubles with the Windows 10 update, not only users of assistive technology,
so, as I say, the choice to update is a personal one.

For me, I'm glad I updated, but we'll see how things go once Microsoft
starts pushing out those updates! Ha ha.

Like you say, fun, fun, fun! :)

Russell
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org>
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I
just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing
that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should
use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows
7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate
that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know
if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that
I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that
Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will
not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to
want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't
fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in
particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just
something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still
function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall?
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stubborn remnances

Mario
 

after running the tool from fs to remove prior versions of JAWS, I checked the programs and features applett and found:

Freedom Scientific Synthesizer Eloquence Freedom Scientific 7/ 13/ 2015 10.9 MB 6.1.004
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 28/ 2012 15.3 MB 13.0.1006.400
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 14.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013 35.2 MB 14.0.6005.400
Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013 12.6.305.0


opting to uninstall the 13 talking installer, I got the following which also happens with the 14 talking installer:

The feature you are trying to use is on a
network resource that is unavailable.

Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a
folder containing the installation package
'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in the box below.
C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\
OK


The path
'C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\RuntimeJAWS.msi'
cannot be fo und. Verify that you have access to this
location and try again, or try to find the installation package
'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in a folder from which you can install
the product Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0.
Cancel


The installation source for this product is not
available. Verify that the source exists and that you
can access it.

I figure the Eloquence driver and Video Intercept are needed components, so left those alone.

how to cleanly remove both talking installers?


Re: repairing jaws

Nicki keck <jesusgirl71@...>
 

I am not the one who tried to connect to his computer, but I did get him
afterward. Whenever he calls in, we groan because honestly, the man cannot
hear what you say to him. If you connect to him via tandem, the way you
have to give him the code is he will say,
"1, 2, 3" and you stop him at the right number/letter. H knows how many
letters and numbers, but still.

When I got him, he asked me if it was hard to repair JAWS. I told him it
might be or might not, as that is subjective, but I did think it would be
hard for me to try to explain to him how to do it. I knew I'd never get
across to him how to do it with his hearing problems. He didn't understand
and just kept asking if it is hard to repair JAWS. I finally told him it
might or might not be depending on his computer abilities and I don't know
if he understood, but he hung up. That is why whoever it was probably told
him he needed a sighted person because if she couldn't stay connected, then
trying to walk him through it would be impossible, and I am not
exaggerating. Usually, if you try to explain something to him, he will
eventually try to get one of his family members on the phone and have you
explain it to them and then they will yell loudly to him and try to get him
to understand. Usually they will tell him something bluntly like Addison
you can't do it or Addison you have to upgrade JAWS or whatever and tell him
they'll come over and help him later. He doesn't necessarily need a sighted
person, but he does need someone who can hear. Doubt anyone who could come
to help him would be blind and hearing so in that case a sighted person
would be necessary. He is really hard to work with. If you can get
connected via tandem, what Keith has done, and it was actually a good idea,
is to open his notepad and type to him what he wanted to say and then have
JAWS read it to him. He seems to be able to understand JAWS better. But he
needs to be using relay, and if there are connection problems with tandem
then it's hopless, literally. I might have tried to help him with tandem
but he just kept asking is it hard to repair JAWS and I couldn't get
anything at all across to him.

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Subject: FW: repairing jaws



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:13 PM
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Subject: FW: repairing jaws



-----Original Message-----
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Hello there,
I need to know how to repaired Jaws 16 ? I never know how to repaired jaws
and download from fs website but I have jaws 16 disc !! One of FS support
was trying to do it for me but when she try to jaws tandem she couldn't stay
connect because jaws crashed so she told me that I need to repaired jaws and
download from FS website ! Here what she say in e-mail below !!
Hi,

Here is what I was trying to say on the phone. It seems to me that your jaws
needs to be repaired. when I tried to do tandem while we were on the phone,
jaws stopped speaking and then the tandem crashed, and I could not stay
connected to your computer. it would be helpful if there was a sighted
person on hand to help do the repair since I cannot stay connected to your
computer through tandem. In order to repair jaws, we need to download jaws
from the freedom scientific web site, and then run a repair.

Is it hard for me to repaired jaws without sighter help and I'm hard of
hearing ?
Addison


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Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 11:06 PM
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Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Hi,

I typed from the run dialog, jaws16 /type repair and only heard Jaws
Professional. Can you provide the syntax again? Thanks.

Les

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Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 10:25 PM
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Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Hi,

I am not sure if this has been responded to or not but if you go to the run
box brous to ware you have your jaws.exe then hitand hit space and at the
end do /type repair and that will work as well.

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Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Mark, I think if you run the jfw.exe file, you will eventually be given an
option to perform a repair of Jaws.

Les

-----Original Message-----
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Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: repairing jaws

Every time I start my computer, jaws keeps on saying there is 2 things that
are not installed correctly. I have tried a reboot as it suggested. But,
that did not fix the problem. It also suggested to do a repair. All I haave
is the downloaded filees. How then do I do a repair?

Thank you for getting me out of this mess!!!

Mark
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Adrian Spratt
 

Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
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Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open
Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this
setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter
D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down
Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to
be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press
Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

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Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual
Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under
Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed
by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws
speaks.

Les

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Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and
pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up "Current
view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

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Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion
to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The
suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the
ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just
says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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