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Re: HP Printers
Adrian Spratt
Here's how Brother lists it here in the U.S.:
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Brother HL-2270DW Compact Laser Printer with Wireless Networking and Duplex
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Owen Palamountain via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 9:00 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Owen Palamountain Subject: RE: HP Printers Hi Adrian, What sourt of Brother printer do you have? Kind Regards Owen Palamountain Email: owen72b@gmail.com Skype: owen6510820 Mobile: +64 21 390 750 -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Friday, 24 July 2015 3:22 p.m. To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: RE: HP Printers Kevin, I'm not sure you've gone to the right area. Start typing "devices" (as in, devices and printers) into the Windows search field. Pres enter on the first item, and the list will appear. When I had an HP printer, I had a hard time isolating it on that list and had to resort to the JAWS cursor and the insert-PC key combo. I don't have this difficulty with my new Brother printer, so in my experience it's something about HP products. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: Hp Printers Hello Listers, I have a hp laserjet pro mfp m127 fn, Jaws 16, Windows 7, 64 bit, and have installed it’s program, at least it shows up on my hard drive, but it does not show up in the control panel, nor when I press control P, on a word document,and arrow around to select a printer. A sighted friend got the printer to work manually, but I can not direct it to print using Jaws. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Kevin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150723/a4fef1c0/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?
Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
I have noticed that sending directly to sender does not work at all for me.
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Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
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Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
That is my problem - try as I might, I can't find a sender's address, which is why in a couple of instances I have provided mine in the e-mail. Thanks for clarification. The strange thing is that JAWS says it is going directly to the sender. I guess it thinks that, that is if JAWS thinks.
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Best to you from, Carolyn
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From: "Michal Nowicki via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 9:01 PM Subject: RE: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9? Carolyn and All,
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Re: Spelling on word 2013
Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
Microsoft unfortunately introduced some accessibility issues in Word 2013,
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and navigating the spell checker is probably the biggest of these problems. For instance, JAWS no longer announces spelling errors automatically every time; sometimes you must press Tab and Shift Tab to accomplish this task. Additionally, the spellcheck hotkeys (ignore, change, ignore all, etc.) no longer work, though pressing them without the Alt key (I = ignore, c = change, etc.) does the trick sometimes. I hope Microsoft addresses these accessibility barriers in Office 2016. Meanwhile, I hope the above observations help.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 11:18 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@gmail.com> Subject: Spelling on word 2013 Hi all, Probably this question is a little bit stupid, but I don't see the way to get what I need. On Microsoft Word 2015, specifically on Office 365, when I press F7, to use the spelling features, the dialog that opens is very different than that appears on Outlook 2013. In the dialog on word 2013, doesn't appear the list of suggestions. I tried to search the dialog using the OCR, even though it didn't see anything like list of suggestions in this window. It doesn't exist, or exist a keystroke to go to the list of suggestions? Thanks for any advice. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: bounces
Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
When I studied at the Illinois School for the Visually Impaired, a
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residential school specializing in teaching adaptive skills, I was in one of the most restrictive computer environments imaginable. Students were prohibited from visiting any site that requires them to enter their personal information (e.g. online stores and all sites requiring users to log in), and many web pages, including Google, were completely blocked. As for e-mail, all attachments with nontextual extensions (photos, music, videos, etc.) were filtered out to prevent school computers from catching a virus. Moreover, all traffic from outside the state network was marked as spam, unless the address was in the user's contacts. That being said, I strongly suspect your e-mail administrator's settings interfere with your communication on this list. While there may be a setting you can change yourself, I'm afraid the matter lies in the hands of the state, which may have to work with the list administrator. I'm sorry I can't be of greater assistance, but I hope your issues get resolved quickly.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 10:58 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. (jfw@lists.the-jdh.com) <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> Subject: bounces This is really for the administrator, so I'd be happy to go off list. I just had to resubscribe, due to too many bounces. Anybody care to elaborate on that? This is my state e-mail account. I just process them-read them, delete them, respond to them, whatever. Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening? I've had some strange experiences. A certain number of these messages wind up in quarantine, or in junk mail. Once everything was funneled to junk for several months; I thought I'd been dropped, and couldn't figure out why. Now this. Ted Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X 2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201507 24/72ae6259/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: reading a file with insertions & deletions in Word
Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...>
Well, I am not entirely sure what you are wanting to do.
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If you want to see a document that has been edited as if there had never been any edits, you can "reject" all the changes, assuming the document was edited with "track changes" turned on. That, will, however, permanently reverse all of the changes
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 11:02 AM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com. So, you are better make a back-up of the file first. You can temporarily hide the changes by putting the document in "final" view. That, however, is like pretending all the changes were "accepted." There is also a view called "Original," but I think it shows the changes in a kind of reverse though I confess I've never tried this "Original" view. Perhaps it does what you want, shows the document as though no changes have been made, but without, in fact, affecting the structure of the file. Try Alt and then r followed by tab. Arrow right until you get past comments. Then tab until you come to the list of four views: final, final showing mark-up, original, and something I don't remember. I'm going from memory. Cc: Lauren Subject: reading a file with insertions & deletions in Word Hi, What is the best way for me to see the text as is if another person has made insertions and or deletions in Word 2013? I don't want to see the changes I made when I emailed it to the other person. Is there a way to read what the document contains as if it was never tampered with, but has the changes incorporated into the document? Thanks. Sincerely, Lauren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachme nts/20150724/50000bb7/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?
Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
Carolyn and All,
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Unfortunately, the "reply to sender" command no longer works in messages posted to this list. I suspect this is for security reasons, as members' e-mail addresses now seem to be hidden. Perhaps the list moderator can confirm this? Michal
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 4:34 PM To: Daniel McBride via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> Subject: Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9? Daniel, Control Shift R says I am replying directly to sender; I hope so. My e-mail address is 4carolyna@windstream.net. Sorry list if this went to everybody. Best to you from, Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel McBride via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:15 PM Subject: RE: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9? Carolyn: _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: HP Printers
Owen Palamountain <owen72b@...>
Hi Adrian,
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What sourt of Brother printer do you have? Kind Regards Owen Palamountain Email: owen72b@gmail.com Skype: owen6510820 Mobile: +64 21 390 750
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Friday, 24 July 2015 3:22 p.m. To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: RE: HP Printers Kevin, I'm not sure you've gone to the right area. Start typing "devices" (as in, devices and printers) into the Windows search field. Pres enter on the first item, and the list will appear. When I had an HP printer, I had a hard time isolating it on that list and had to resort to the JAWS cursor and the insert-PC key combo. I don't have this difficulty with my new Brother printer, so in my experience it's something about HP products. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: Hp Printers Hello Listers, I have a hp laserjet pro mfp m127 fn, Jaws 16, Windows 7, 64 bit, and have installed it’s program, at least it shows up on my hard drive, but it does not show up in the control panel, nor when I press control P, on a word document,and arrow around to select a printer. A sighted friend got the printer to work manually, but I can not direct it to print using Jaws. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Kevin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150723/a4fef1c0/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: bounces
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Ted, I'm not having problem either. The only problem I have is that Insert, Shift R goes to the list instead of to the e-mail sender.
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Best to you from, Carolyn
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From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:04 PM Subject: RE: bounces Ted, I'm having none of these problems with list messages. Very occasionally, a list message ends up in my junk folder, but a lot less often than the messages from other services. I wonder if it's worth a call to your spam protection or server company.
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Re: How do I get Convenient OCR to work?
Dave...
Mike,
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A couple points... First the "D" is only relevant for PDF documents. Second, there are two other letters - S for screen and C for Control (i.e. button, label, etc.). Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer
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From: "Michael B. via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Michael B." <mb69mach1@charter.net> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 02:31 PM Subject: Re: How do I get Convenient OCR to work? Hi Keith, Insert + spacebar, then, press, O, for OCR then, press, D, for document Or, press, W, for window. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Milton Ota via Jfw To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Milton Ota Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:33 PM Subject: Re: How do I get Convenient OCR to work? You need to press and hold the Insert-key and spacebar to start and then follow it with the letter O. If you pres and hold the insert key and spacebar then pressing the letter O and follow that with the question mark you will get the help for convenient OCR. HTH Original message: Hi, I'm trying to read from a website what I believe is a scanned PDF image I do caps lock plus spacebar and then o, but nothing happens apparently Any help appreciated. Keith ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150724/bb588623/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Daniel, Control Shift R says I am replying directly to sender; I hope so. My e-mail address is
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4carolyna@windstream.net. Sorry list if this went to everybody. Best to you from, Carolyn
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From: "Daniel McBride via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:15 PM Subject: RE: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9? Carolyn:
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Re: How do I get Convenient OCR to work?
Michael B. <mb69mach1@...>
Hi Keith,
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Insert + spacebar, then, press, O, for OCR then, press, D, for document Or, press, W, for window. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
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From: Milton Ota via Jfw To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Milton Ota Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:33 PM Subject: Re: How do I get Convenient OCR to work? You need to press and hold the Insert-key and spacebar to start and then follow it with the letter O. If you pres and hold the insert key and spacebar then pressing the letter O and follow that with the question mark you will get the help for convenient OCR. HTH Original message: Hi, I'm trying to read from a website what I believe is a scanned PDF image I do caps lock plus spacebar and then o, but nothing happens apparently Any help appreciated. Keith ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150724/bb588623/attachment.html>
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Re: How do I get Convenient OCR to work?
Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
You need to press and hold the Insert-key and spacebar to start and then follow it with the letter O.
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If you pres and hold the insert key and spacebar then pressing the letter O and follow that with the question mark you will get the help for convenient OCR. HTH Original message:
Hi, I'm trying to read from a website what I believe is a scanned PDF image of a release form for an outdoor activity. I do caps lock plus spacebar and then o, but nothing happens apparently at that point. Any help appreciated. Keith _______________________________________________
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How do I get Convenient OCR to work?
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Hi,
I'm trying to read from a website what I believe is a scanned PDF image of a release form for an outdoor activity. I do caps lock plus spacebar and then o, but nothing happens apparently at that point. Any help appreciated. Keith
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Re: Navigating the New York Times
Stan Holdeman
Keith: Firstly, as Adrian pointed out, I should have said placemarker, not bookmark.
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It has been awhile since I have worked with this, but I think you can start the process by finding the text in the web site, then shift control K, then work the dialogue. Hope this helps. Stan
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From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 2:39 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Subject: RE: Navigating the New York Times How do you set a bookmark for text like this? Sounds like a good tool. Thanks, Keith -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:32 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Stan Holdeman Subject: Re: Navigating the New York Times Adrian and all: The best help I have found is to set a bookmark for the text that says, "share this page". In an article I hit K then n once or twice and the article begins. This does not work in blogs. Stan -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: Navigating the New York Times Hi. Some time ago, there was a thread about changes to the NY Times website that made navigation difficult and the "print" versions of articles impossible to find. The Times promised me, and presumably others, that they were working on making fixes. The problem has only become worse since then. I'm posting this query to find out if others are experiencing a particular problem. Unlike in the past, there is no "print" link in an article. However, there is a "more" link. After clicking on this link, sighted readers can see a link to "print." I can click on the "more" link, but the "print" link is still elusive. I found it just now, but once I managed to click on it (I had to go into links list), all I got was a printer dialog. Escaping out of the dialog, I found the page was laid out exactly the way the main article page is. So, is anyone doing better at finding and using the "print" versions of NY Times articles? If so, would you explain how? Any other suggestions? (I know about the NFB version, but it lacks the links within articles that can be invaluable.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150724/6ea099e3/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Navigating the New York Times
Stan Holdeman
Yes, Adrian, I do mean placemarker, and I like the way it serves my purpose in NYT articles.
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And, yes, you are right that it is still quite irksome to work through the article. Stan
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From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 2:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: RE: Navigating the New York Times Stan, I think you mean placemarker, right? I find pressing 1 for heading at level 1, then one or two presses of n for skip links serves the same purpose of getting to the start of an article. However, neither method enables screenreader users to read through the article itself without either listening to a slew of extraneous material or continuous pressing of quick navigation keys. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 2:32 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Stan Holdeman Subject: Re: Navigating the New York Times Adrian and all: The best help I have found is to set a bookmark for the text that says, "share this page". In an article I hit K then n once or twice and the article begins. This does not work in blogs. Stan -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: Navigating the New York Times Hi. Some time ago, there was a thread about changes to the NY Times website that made navigation difficult and the "print" versions of articles impossible to find. The Times promised me, and presumably others, that they were working on making fixes. The problem has only become worse since then. I'm posting this query to find out if others are experiencing a particular problem. Unlike in the past, there is no "print" link in an article. However, there is a "more" link. After clicking on this link, sighted readers can see a link to "print." I can click on the "more" link, but the "print" link is still elusive. I found it just now, but once I managed to click on it (I had to go into links list), all I got was a printer dialog. Escaping out of the dialog, I found the page was laid out exactly the way the main article page is. So, is anyone doing better at finding and using the "print" versions of NY Times articles? If so, would you explain how? Any other suggestions? (I know about the NFB version, but it lacks the links within articles that can be invaluable.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150724/6ea099e3/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Navigating the New York Times
Adrian Spratt
Stan, I think you mean placemarker, right? I find pressing 1 for heading at level 1, then one or two presses of n for skip links serves the same purpose of getting to the start of an article. However, neither method enables screenreader users to read through the article itself without either listening to a slew of extraneous material or continuous pressing of quick navigation keys.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 2:32 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Stan Holdeman Subject: Re: Navigating the New York Times Adrian and all: The best help I have found is to set a bookmark for the text that says, "share this page". In an article I hit K then n once or twice and the article begins. This does not work in blogs. Stan -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: Navigating the New York Times Hi. Some time ago, there was a thread about changes to the NY Times website that made navigation difficult and the "print" versions of articles impossible to find. The Times promised me, and presumably others, that they were working on making fixes. The problem has only become worse since then. I'm posting this query to find out if others are experiencing a particular problem. Unlike in the past, there is no "print" link in an article. However, there is a "more" link. After clicking on this link, sighted readers can see a link to "print." I can click on the "more" link, but the "print" link is still elusive. I found it just now, but once I managed to click on it (I had to go into links list), all I got was a printer dialog. Escaping out of the dialog, I found the page was laid out exactly the way the main article page is. So, is anyone doing better at finding and using the "print" versions of NY Times articles? If so, would you explain how? Any other suggestions? (I know about the NFB version, but it lacks the links within articles that can be invaluable.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150724/6ea099e3/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Navigating the New York Times
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
How do you set a bookmark for text like this? Sounds like a good tool. Thanks, Keith
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:32 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Stan Holdeman Subject: Re: Navigating the New York Times Adrian and all: The best help I have found is to set a bookmark for the text that says, "share this page". In an article I hit K then n once or twice and the article begins. This does not work in blogs. Stan -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: Navigating the New York Times Hi. Some time ago, there was a thread about changes to the NY Times website that made navigation difficult and the "print" versions of articles impossible to find. The Times promised me, and presumably others, that they were working on making fixes. The problem has only become worse since then. I'm posting this query to find out if others are experiencing a particular problem. Unlike in the past, there is no "print" link in an article. However, there is a "more" link. After clicking on this link, sighted readers can see a link to "print." I can click on the "more" link, but the "print" link is still elusive. I found it just now, but once I managed to click on it (I had to go into links list), all I got was a printer dialog. Escaping out of the dialog, I found the page was laid out exactly the way the main article page is. So, is anyone doing better at finding and using the "print" versions of NY Times articles? If so, would you explain how? Any other suggestions? (I know about the NFB version, but it lacks the links within articles that can be invaluable.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150724/6ea099e3/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Navigating the New York Times
Stan Holdeman
Adrian and all: The best help I have found is to set a bookmark for the text that says, "share this page". In an article I hit K then n once or twice and the article begins. This does not work in blogs.
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From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: Navigating the New York Times Hi. Some time ago, there was a thread about changes to the NY Times website that made navigation difficult and the "print" versions of articles impossible to find. The Times promised me, and presumably others, that they were working on making fixes. The problem has only become worse since then. I'm posting this query to find out if others are experiencing a particular problem. Unlike in the past, there is no "print" link in an article. However, there is a "more" link. After clicking on this link, sighted readers can see a link to "print." I can click on the "more" link, but the "print" link is still elusive. I found it just now, but once I managed to click on it (I had to go into links list), all I got was a printer dialog. Escaping out of the dialog, I found the page was laid out exactly the way the main article page is. So, is anyone doing better at finding and using the "print" versions of NY Times articles? If so, would you explain how? Any other suggestions? (I know about the NFB version, but it lacks the links within articles that can be invaluable.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150724/6ea099e3/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Navigating the New York Times
Adrian Spratt
Yes, I use all these techniques except for flexible web partly because the NYT's webpages change from time to time and partly because the method is just too cumbersome if used across the many websites I visit. In addition to the minor annoyance of skipping links, etc., with n and other quick navigation keys, the NYT format alters as I progress down each page. Eventually lines break up, and I need to refresh. When I refresh, I often find my focus has shifted elsewhere. I avoid "say all" on the NYT website because I don't like to sit here as JAWS plows through ads, promotions of other articles, photo captions, etc.
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Navigation just shouldn't be this complicated. It's too distracting, as well as time-consuming.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:24 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Douglas C. DeCamp Subject: RE: Navigating the New York Times Adrian, I too miss the print feature. However, I have just gotten used to using my navigation keys to quickly get around articles. I generally use the 1 key to skip to the first level heading (usually the main article title), then use the n (next) key a couple of times to skipp past the various option info. This will generally get me close to the main text. I then use Say All or the read paragraph keys to go through the article. I also have set up flexible web to delete as many of the advertisements as I can. While a little more cumbersome than the old print function I have found I can get by pretty well. I also like to use the H (next heading) key on main pages (such as national news) to skip through the article headings. -- hope some of this helps -- -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 11:01 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Adrian Spratt Subject: Navigating the New York Times Hi. Some time ago, there was a thread about changes to the NY Times website that made navigation difficult and the "print" versions of articles impossible to find. The Times promised me, and presumably others, that they were working on making fixes. The problem has only become worse since then. I'm posting this query to find out if others are experiencing a particular problem. Unlike in the past, there is no "print" link in an article. However, there is a "more" link. After clicking on this link, sighted readers can see a link to "print." I can click on the "more" link, but the "print" link is still elusive. I found it just now, but once I managed to click on it (I had to go into links list), all I got was a printer dialog. Escaping out of the dialog, I found the page was laid out exactly the way the main article page is. So, is anyone doing better at finding and using the "print" versions of NY Times articles? If so, would you explain how? Any other suggestions? (I know about the NFB version, but it lacks the links within articles that can be invaluable.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201507 24/6ea099e3/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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