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Re: 12.0.1167

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

myself I always run two versions a last stable and the new one, so this way your double covered.
I'm currently running the last of 11 and the newest 12 myself

laters,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167


Hi,
I suppose this is as good a time as any to ask this.
I have a new HP Notebook on the way with W7 64 bit and I will run Office
2007.
Now, were you I would you load the most current version of Jaws 11 or take
the chance and go for JAWS 12 latest version?
From all I have seen it sure seems to me that we got ripped off with 12.
Hopefully 13 will finally fix the JAWS 12 problems and not create a myriad
of new ones.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Hi,
It isn't a lot better.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Off hand, I can't recall a more problematic JFW rollout than version 12 and
all its subsequent updates. The patches to fix this or that issue and not to
mention the over all performance issues some of which have somewhat been
addressed, but others are still waiting to get fixed.

I'm downloading the update out of habit, but considering that there's not
much addressed here, I'm not sure I'm going to bother installing it. I'll
maybe give it a shot to see if by any chance over all performance is better
then those other v12 editions from earlier in the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Jim.Denham@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Barry.J.Campbell@...; jfw@...
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

I find it very interesting that while one ResearchIt source was fixed in
12.1167, MLB was not. Not sure about other sports providers as I have not
tested them yet.
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Barry J. Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

not much in this release as far as I can read. a fix for research it. a
website fix for rehab for alabama

and a word 2010 fix.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:09 PM
To: Jaws List
Subject: 12.0.1167

Greetings: Without further comment, I got an automatic update notification
just now about the subject version of JAWS.
Carry on, Mitch



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jaws 12.0.1167:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi I remember when I had jaws 4.0 on my uncle's dell and it messed up his computer something fierce. He told me I wasn't installing jaws version 4 on his computer again.
Kenny Peyatt

Re: 12.0.1167

Cy Selfridge
 

Oops, I guess I should have paid attention to the subject line? (red face)
Cy, The Anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:30 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Hi,
I presume you are speaking of 12.1167?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of ohio1803@q.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: 12.0.1167

I have had my share of troubles with JAWS, over the years.
But I have to say, I am not having near the trouble some of you all are
talking about with version 12.
I installed the latest update this morning, it seems to work just great. I
don't know all the specifics of what was changed.
But my navigation is mostly all good. The responsiveness is good. On my
Windows 7 Home Premium Dell desktop, outside of my still going bonkers when
I try to get deep into the ribbon nightmares, the recent version of JAWS
seems to be working quite well.

Some of you I am sure are not making it up, the things you are describing.
But I just thought I would put in my 2 cents, lest everyone get all hepped
up and a scared of 12.

Thanks.
Rik



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reading jfw digest using windows mail with jaws 12

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

hi.
had jaws 12.0.5.61, now got the 67 version.
when i was using the 61 version, with windows mail and windows vista home premium sp2, on a toshiba laptop.
the digest would crash with jaws?
has any one still using vista, had this same problem.
will reading it in the gmail interface using firefox or internet explorer fix this?
thank you.
marvin.
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Re: 12.0.1167

Cy Selfridge
 

Hi,
I presume you are speaking of 12.1167?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of ohio1803@q.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: 12.0.1167

I have had my share of troubles with JAWS, over the years.
But I have to say, I am not having near the trouble some of you all are
talking about with version 12.
I installed the latest update this morning, it seems to work just great. I
don't know all the specifics of what was changed.
But my navigation is mostly all good. The responsiveness is good. On my
Windows 7 Home Premium Dell desktop, outside of my still going bonkers when
I try to get deep into the ribbon nightmares, the recent version of JAWS
seems to be working quite well.

Some of you I am sure are not making it up, the things you are describing.
But I just thought I would put in my 2 cents, lest everyone get all hepped
up and a scared of 12.

Thanks.
Rik



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Re: REMOVE AND REPLACE

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

hi.
can you remove me, then i can then subscribe my self and set the digest mode.
tried changing the digest mode via e-mail.
but did not work.
so please unsubscribe me.
marvin.

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To: <Jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 1:18 PM
Subject: REMOVE AND REPLACE


Hello James, may I ask you to remove evillafuerte@... from this
mailing list and replace it for esperanza.villafuerte@... that's
because of my invox size, thanks in advance for this.
Best regards.

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Re: 12.0.1167

ohio1803@...
 

I have had my share of troubles with JAWS, over the years.
But I have to say, I am not having near the trouble some of you all are talking about with version 12.
I installed the latest update this morning, it seems to work just great. I don't know all the specifics of what was changed.
But my navigation is mostly all good. The responsiveness is good. On my Windows 7 Home Premium Dell desktop, outside of my still going bonkers when I try to get deep into the ribbon nightmares, the recent version of JAWS seems to be working quite well.

Some of you I am sure are not making it up, the things you are describing.
But I just thought I would put in my 2 cents, lest everyone get all hepped up and a scared of 12.

Thanks.
Rik

REMOVE AND REPLACE

Lic. Esperanza Villafuerte <evillafuerte@...>
 

Hello James, may I ask you to remove evillafuerte@... from this
mailing list and replace it for esperanza.villafuerte@... that's
because of my invox size, thanks in advance for this.
Best regards.

________________________
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Re: 12.0.1167

Cy Selfridge
 

In my opinion FS should count 12 as a free version and give us credit for
it. Thus, if you were supposed to get 12 and 13 I think you should get 13
and 14.
12 does remind me of the infamous version 4.0. (LOLLLOLLOLLOL)
Cy, The Anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:52 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

I have both 11 and 12 on my lap top right now and am currently using 11. I
think FS should fix all these bugs in version 12 for free and make us pay
for 13 only when they come out with something new.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Hi,
I suppose this is as good a time as any to ask this.
I have a new HP Notebook on the way with W7 64 bit and I will run Office
2007.
Now, were you I would you load the most current version of Jaws 11 or take
the chance and go for JAWS 12 latest version?
From all I have seen it sure seems to me that we got ripped off with 12.
Hopefully 13 will finally fix the JAWS 12 problems and not create a myriad
of new ones.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Hi,
It isn't a lot better.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Off hand, I can't recall a more problematic JFW rollout than version 12 and
all its subsequent updates. The patches to fix this or that issue and not to
mention the over all performance issues some of which have somewhat been
addressed, but others are still waiting to get fixed.

I'm downloading the update out of habit, but considering that there's not
much addressed here, I'm not sure I'm going to bother installing it. I'll
maybe give it a shot to see if by any chance over all performance is better
then those other v12 editions from earlier in the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Jim.Denham@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Barry.J.Campbell@...; jfw@...
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

I find it very interesting that while one ResearchIt source was fixed in
12.1167, MLB was not. Not sure about other sports providers as I have not
tested them yet.
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Barry J. Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

not much in this release as far as I can read. a fix for research it. a
website fix for rehab for alabama

and a word 2010 fix.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:09 PM
To: Jaws List
Subject: 12.0.1167

Greetings: Without further comment, I got an automatic update notification
just now about the subject version of JAWS.
Carry on, Mitch



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Re: 12.0.1167

Drew Hunthausen
 

I have both 11 and 12 on my lap top right now and am currently using 11. I
think FS should fix all these bugs in version 12 for free and make us pay
for 13 only when they come out with something new.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Hi,
I suppose this is as good a time as any to ask this.
I have a new HP Notebook on the way with W7 64 bit and I will run Office
2007.
Now, were you I would you load the most current version of Jaws 11 or take
the chance and go for JAWS 12 latest version?
From all I have seen it sure seems to me that we got ripped off with 12.
Hopefully 13 will finally fix the JAWS 12 problems and not create a myriad
of new ones.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Hi,
It isn't a lot better.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Off hand, I can't recall a more problematic JFW rollout than version 12 and
all its subsequent updates. The patches to fix this or that issue and not to
mention the over all performance issues some of which have somewhat been
addressed, but others are still waiting to get fixed.

I'm downloading the update out of habit, but considering that there's not
much addressed here, I'm not sure I'm going to bother installing it. I'll
maybe give it a shot to see if by any chance over all performance is better
then those other v12 editions from earlier in the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Jim.Denham@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Barry.J.Campbell@...; jfw@...
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

I find it very interesting that while one ResearchIt source was fixed in
12.1167, MLB was not. Not sure about other sports providers as I have not
tested them yet.
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Barry J. Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

not much in this release as far as I can read. a fix for research it. a
website fix for rehab for alabama

and a word 2010 fix.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:09 PM
To: Jaws List
Subject: 12.0.1167

Greetings: Without further comment, I got an automatic update notification
just now about the subject version of JAWS.
Carry on, Mitch



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Re: greetings

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

make sure all "preview" pains are turned off



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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:04 AM
Subject: greetings


hi.
how do i set digest mode via e-mail.
and also, why does it keep chrashing with jaws,when reading in windows mail, using windows vista.
marvin.
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Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

jaws used to read automatically when i delete msgs but not no more

mike mcglashon
 

hi guys:
the subject says it all, when I am in windows-live-mail in windows 7 and using jaws 12, I used to hear the reading of the next msg automatically when I hit ctrl-d to delete one. now, all of a sudden in the last couple of days, when I hit ctrl-d to delete a msg, I then have to hit insert-escape to refresh the screen before it will read the next msg? any one else seen this?
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Re: office 2010:

Lisa D Porter <lisaporter429@...>
 

Hi all,
Let's try sending a message again. I use Office 2010 with JAWS and have no real issues. Good luck to you if you decide to upgrade.
Lisa D Porter

On 6/29/2011 6:46 PM, Kenny Peyatt wrote:
How well does jaws work with office 2010 Is it worth the upgrade? I am
using office 2007.
Kenny Peyatt happy jaws user.

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Re: JAWS 12.0.1167

Cristóbal
 

Eric from FS wrote to teh list earlier explainign the Sports score issue. It
appears to be an issue with ESPN's disceminating the information. He
suggested we write to ESPN directly to try to get their help to restore this
function.

It seems kind of a hastle to have to download and go through the whole
install process for such minor patches. I guess if you're someone who is
inconvenienced by the problems noted below it would of course make sense,
but from what I saw, there's really not much in the update that addresses
the various issues I and others on the lists have been experiencing.
Sluggishness, crashes, Excel, etc. Software in general seems to be speeding
up along with all the cloud based stuff, I'm curious to see how well FS's
going to be able to keep up as well. Patches every month? Who knows. Anyway,
that’s probably a discussion for another day...

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:20 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: JAWS 12.0.1167

Is it just me, or did FS just release a minor update?

Here's the list of things they fixed, and looks like the sports fans will
have to wait longer for ResearchIt to be fixed.

Enhancements in JAWS 12.0.1167 (June 2011)

The following is a list of items addressed or added between the final JAWS
12.0.1161 and

the JAWS 12.0.1167 posting.

list of 4 items
. Resolved an issue with the People Search lookup source in Research It
failing if the
results contained only one item.
. Addressed an issue reported in Microsoft Word 2010 when navigating in a
numbered list.
The braille cursor will now always be at the same location as the
active cursor.
. Resolved an issue where information was not being shown on the braille
display as
expected in some applications.
. JAWS now correctly speaks the buttons on the
https://giftstest.rehab.state.al.us/bepnet/main/beplogin.aspx Web page.
list end



Dave Carlson
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Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.


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Re: 12.0.1167

Cy Selfridge
 

Hi,
I suppose this is as good a time as any to ask this.
I have a new HP Notebook on the way with W7 64 bit and I will run Office
2007.
Now, were you I would you load the most current version of Jaws 11 or take
the chance and go for JAWS 12 latest version?
From all I have seen it sure seems to me that we got ripped off with 12.
Hopefully 13 will finally fix the JAWS 12 problems and not create a myriad
of new ones.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Hi,
It isn't a lot better.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

Off hand, I can't recall a more problematic JFW rollout than version 12 and
all its subsequent updates. The patches to fix this or that issue and not to
mention the over all performance issues some of which have somewhat been
addressed, but others are still waiting to get fixed.

I'm downloading the update out of habit, but considering that there's not
much addressed here, I'm not sure I'm going to bother installing it. I'll
maybe give it a shot to see if by any chance over all performance is better
then those other v12 editions from earlier in the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Jim.Denham@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Barry.J.Campbell@...; jfw@...
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

I find it very interesting that while one ResearchIt source was fixed in
12.1167, MLB was not. Not sure about other sports providers as I have not
tested them yet.
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Barry J. Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: 12.0.1167

not much in this release as far as I can read. a fix for research it. a
website fix for rehab for alabama

and a word 2010 fix.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:09 PM
To: Jaws List
Subject: 12.0.1167

Greetings: Without further comment, I got an automatic update notification
just now about the subject version of JAWS.
Carry on, Mitch



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Re: office 2010:

Shane Davidson <shane@...>
 

Kenny;
Office 2010 isn't much different from 2007.
Feel free to upgrade.

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How well does jaws work with office 2010 Is it worth the upgrade? I am using
office 2007.
Kenny Peyatt happy jaws user.

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JAWS 12.0.1167

Dave...
 

Is it just me, or did FS just release a minor update?

Here's the list of things they fixed, and looks like the sports fans will
have to wait longer for ResearchIt to be fixed.

Enhancements in JAWS 12.0.1167 (June 2011)

The following is a list of items addressed or added between the final JAWS
12.0.1161 and

the JAWS 12.0.1167 posting.

list of 4 items
. Resolved an issue with the People Search lookup source in Research It
failing if the
results contained only one item.
. Addressed an issue reported in Microsoft Word 2010 when navigating in a
numbered list.
The braille cursor will now always be at the same location as the
active cursor.
. Resolved an issue where information was not being shown on the braille
display as
expected in some applications.
. JAWS now correctly speaks the buttons on the
https://giftstest.rehab.state.al.us/bepnet/main/beplogin.aspx Web page.
list end



Dave Carlson
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.

office 2010:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

How well does jaws work with office 2010 Is it worth the upgrade? I am using office 2007.
Kenny Peyatt happy jaws user.