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when using thunderbird I am having to tabb several times to move out of the mail message. what are the short cutto get out of mail after reading the message.
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Re: Scanners.

Daniel McBride
 

Carolyn:

Space for a flatbed scanner is always a consideration. I do not share
Marshall's problem because I have a very nice computer desk with a cabinet
in the lower right area of the desk that nicely accommodates my
printer/scanner and sits on a sliding pad. When I need to print, copy or
scan, I simply open the cabinet door, slide the printer out and perform the
necessary task. When completed, it easily slides back into the cabinet.

I am not 100% sure about scanning photographs, but my sighted wife believes
the HP 3820 does scan photos.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

Now, there is a point worth consideration. Will this scanner scan pictures
into the computer?

I am making a scanner file and compiling all of these greatly appreciated
responses to my question.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Scott via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Marshall Scott" <mfscott@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi Carolyn,
I purchased an all-in-one printer last year and found out a couple of
things. The first is that in order to place a document on the scanner
bed;I had to put the scanner directly in front of me on my desk. This
took up a lot of useful space. I also found that placing a document on
the scanner while sitting down required stretching uncomfortably.
Also, if you don't do a lot of printing and don't need color printing.
I'd get a laser printer. While the cartridge is more expensive than one
for an inkjet printer, it lasts longer
Marshall

On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
<jfw@...> wrote:

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that
or something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Now, there is a point worth consideration. Will this scanner scan pictures into the computer?

I am making a scanner file and compiling all of these greatly appreciated responses to my question.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Scott via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Marshall Scott" <mfscott@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi Carolyn,
I purchased an all-in-one printer last year and found out a couple of things. The first is that in order to place a document on the scanner bed;I had to put the scanner directly in front of me on my desk. This took up a lot of useful space. I also found that placing a document on the scanner while sitting down required stretching uncomfortably.
Also, if you don't do a lot of printing and don't need color printing. I'd get a laser printer. While the cartridge is more expensive than one for an inkjet printer, it lasts longer
Marshall

On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Interesting. So this system will read material that you feed to the scanner? If it does, then, at a little less than half price, when there is a sighted person here all the time . . . ?

I will save your information as well as the information about Open Book and Pearl. However, I tended to lean toward something like you're talking about. Just a little uncertain here.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel McBride via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Cc: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:50 PM
Subject: RE: Scanners.


Carolyn:

I have Open Book with the Pearl Camera Scanner. I rarely use it due to its
limitations. I recently purchased an HP Office Jet Pro 8620
printer/copier/scanner and Adobe Pro X software to be able to edit and read
the scans. This works much better than the Open Book & Pearl Camera.

Mitchell is correct about my need to have a sighted person assist me with
the scanning, but I simply accept that as part of life.

My HP unit was $279, on sale, at Best Buy, and the Adobe Pro X will run
about $450. However, when I obtained the Open Book & Pearl system 3 years
ago, it was near $1000. I have no idea what it would cost today, but I
prefer the flat bed HP scanner with Adobe Pro X. I, too, will be getting a
new PC soon and I do not intend to download my Open Book & Pearl system on
my new PC. That's just me. Others might disagree.

Daniel


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well. It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR. Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Mitchell and others, That does get me started.

So, if I get a scanner, what does that involve? Is there hardware that is involved there? I am not that savvy about operating systems and the like, just, if it works and I can do it, I use it or learn it.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michal Nowicki via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Scanners.


Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: JFW 16 with IE 11 crashing with Amazon

Luis Difut
 

Switch to using Firefox with Amazon.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of rhs--- via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: rhs@q.com
Subject: JFW 16 with IE 11 crashing with Amazon

Hi,

Running JFW 16, IE 11, Windows 7. IE crashes and Jaws goes silent when I
attempt to use the Amazon web site. Any ideas?

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Re: Scanners.

Marshall Scott <mfscott@...>
 

Hi Carolyn,
I purchased an all-in-one printer last year and found out a couple of things. The first is that in order to place a document on the scanner bed;I had to put the scanner directly in front of me on my desk. This took up a lot of useful space. I also found that placing a document on the scanner while sitting down required stretching uncomfortably.
Also, if you don't do a lot of printing and don't need color printing. I'd get a laser printer. While the cartridge is more expensive than one for an inkjet printer, it lasts longer
Marshall

On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Daniel McBride
 

Carolyn:

I have Open Book with the Pearl Camera Scanner. I rarely use it due to its
limitations. I recently purchased an HP Office Jet Pro 8620
printer/copier/scanner and Adobe Pro X software to be able to edit and read
the scans. This works much better than the Open Book & Pearl Camera.

Mitchell is correct about my need to have a sighted person assist me with
the scanning, but I simply accept that as part of life.

My HP unit was $279, on sale, at Best Buy, and the Adobe Pro X will run
about $450. However, when I obtained the Open Book & Pearl system 3 years
ago, it was near $1000. I have no idea what it would cost today, but I
prefer the flat bed HP scanner with Adobe Pro X. I, too, will be getting a
new PC soon and I do not intend to download my Open Book & Pearl system on
my new PC. That's just me. Others might disagree.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well. It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR. Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell

On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

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Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

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JFW 16 with IE 11 crashing with Amazon

Ralph Supernaw
 

Hi,

Running JFW 16, IE 11, Windows 7. IE crashes and Jaws goes silent when I
attempt to use the Amazon web site. Any ideas?

Thanks.


Re: Jaws 16 issue with touch screen at login

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

not sure if this will help. On a standard keyboard you can press insert- 1 on the number row above the keyboard. In this mode pressing any key will not activate the keystroke. JAWS will only announce what the key function is. Insert-1 is a toggle on and off. Perhaps your laptop keyboard has a similar insert-1 toggle and it is stuck. However it seems a power down and reboot would clear this command and boot up as usual. Though it could be worth checking out. Just a thought.

Andre

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Jaws 16 issue with touch screen at login

Hi everyone,

I am running Jaws 16 on a Lenovo Yoga Pro2 laptop. It has a touch screen, which I hardly ever use. I am running into an issue when my laptop goes to sleep. It goes to the Windows lockscreen. In the past all I had to do was press the power button on my laptop and I would be taken to the Windows lock screen where I could simply tab to the password field, enter my password, and I’d be right where I left off when my laptop went to sleep.

Now, however, every time my laptop goes to sleep, when I press the power button nothing seems to happen. If I touch the screen though, Jaws is running and I can swipe to the various choices, i.e. password, shutdown, etc. but I cannot do anything. Double-tapping on the password field does nothing. Double-tapping on the shutdown button does nothing. And, nothing happens when I try to use the keyboard. It’s as if Jaws is in touch screen mode and the keyboard is not at all active. I called FS, and the guy there didn’t have a clue as to what to do. He suggested that I turn off the lock screen. I may do this, but at the moment I cannot get in to Windows at all. I press and hold the power button to turn off my laptop, but, when I turn it on, nothing happens… not evenwhen I touch the screen.

So, my question… is there a keystroke I may have accidentally pressed to put Jaws in some sort of touch screen mode?

Thanks for any and all ideas!

Russell
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Re: Jaws 16 issue with touch screen at login

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Did you try enabling the touch cursor? When enabled, the touch cursor allows you to simulate touch gestures using keyboard commands. For instance, pressing the left and right arrow keys is equivalent to swiping left and right, respectively. While the touch cursor was developed primarily to facilitate navigation in modern apps, it may help you get into Windows. Let us know if it does.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Jaws 16 issue with touch screen at login

Hi everyone,

I am running Jaws 16 on a Lenovo Yoga Pro2 laptop. It has a touch screen, which I hardly ever use. I am running into an issue when my laptop goes to sleep. It goes to the Windows lockscreen. In the past all I had to do was press the power button on my laptop and I would be taken to the Windows lock screen where I could simply tab to the password field, enter my password, and I’d be right where I left off when my laptop went to sleep.

Now, however, every time my laptop goes to sleep, when I press the power button nothing seems to happen. If I touch the screen though, Jaws is running and I can swipe to the various choices, i.e. password, shutdown, etc. but I cannot do anything. Double-tapping on the password field does nothing. Double-tapping on the shutdown button does nothing. And, nothing happens when I try to use the keyboard. It’s as if Jaws is in touch screen mode and the keyboard is not at all active. I called FS, and the guy there didn’t have a clue as to what to do. He suggested that I turn off the lock screen. I may do this, but at the moment I cannot get in to Windows at all. I press and hold the power button to turn off my laptop, but, when I turn it on, nothing happens… not evenwhen I touch the screen.

So, my question… is there a keystroke I may have accidentally pressed to put Jaws in some sort of touch screen mode?

Thanks for any and all ideas!

Russell
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Jaws 16 issue with touch screen at login

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi everyone,

I am running Jaws 16 on a Lenovo Yoga Pro2 laptop. It has a touch screen, which I hardly ever use. I am running into an issue when my laptop goes to sleep. It goes to the Windows lockscreen. In the past all I had to do was press the power button on my laptop and I would be taken to the Windows lock screen where I could simply tab to the password field, enter my password, and I’d be right where I left off when my laptop went to sleep.

Now, however, every time my laptop goes to sleep, when I press the power button nothing seems to happen. If I touch the screen though, Jaws is running and I can swipe to the various choices, i.e. password, shutdown, etc. but I cannot do anything. Double-tapping on the password field does nothing. Double-tapping on the shutdown button does nothing. And, nothing happens when I try to use the keyboard. It’s as if Jaws is in touch screen mode and the keyboard is not at all active. I called FS, and the guy there didn’t have a clue as to what to do. He suggested that I turn off the lock screen. I may do this, but at the moment I cannot get in to Windows at all. I press and hold the power button to turn off my laptop, but, when I turn it on, nothing happens… not evenwhen I touch the screen.

So, my question… is there a keystroke I may have accidentally pressed to put Jaws in some sort of touch screen mode?

Thanks for any and all ideas!

Russell


Re: Keeping Up With Technology

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I remember the switch from DOS to Windows, wondering if this would imperil our hard-won gains in accessibility. Somewhere along the line I started rolling with the punches. Back then PDF's were a dead loss, unless you could import them; how things have changed, often for the better!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology

Well said. Dollars Make Sense. Nothing can happen without them. People have to get paid.

Yes we lag behind. We must all do work arounds until the tech can catch up.
It's the nature of the beast. Greatfully no matter how difficult, at least there is a beast to work with.

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology

I can't really fault Freedom Scientific for this. Designers do crazier and crazier things with software and websites every day, and the people at FS aren't psychic. It's been this way since before I got into computers I'm sure, and that was 1992. You can't redesign software to fix a problem until the problem exists. So what happens. A new version of Windows comes out, and then JAWS has to be rewritten to handle the new stuff. A new version of Office comes out replacing menus with ribbons, and again, the software has to be rewritten to deal with the new layout. Netflix changes their website, and again something has to be tweaked to handle the new wrinkle. If the site designer would use Alt tags on their graphics, graphical links wouldn't be an issue.

The other side of that coin is that you have to do your part, and that means updating to the latest version of JAWS if you want the latest fixes to the latest problems. I don't generally update to every new release, because for what I do, I can usually skip five or so versions.
It's cheaper that way, and I don't feel like I'm missing out. If you're more on the cutting edge of technology, you may have to update more frequently.

Which brings me to my final point of the night. People gripe about the cost of assistive technology, but as rapidly as things change, programmers are always having to work writing code to accommodate those new features and problems. And unlike, say, Microsoft Office, which people use by the millions and millions of copies, assistive technology has an extremely small market share. People want the very latest and greatest, and they want the software authors to work for free.

Is what we have perfect? No. But if you were using JAWS back in the days of Internet Explorer 3.0, you remember when the only way to read a news article was with the JAWS cursor (there was no virtual cursor), and you had to read three or four columns of articles at one time with all the stories mixed together. We've come soooooo far since 1997 when I started teaching people how to use the Internet. When you step back eighteen years, it's really quite amazing how rapidly our technology catches up with the rest of the world compared to how long it used to take.

Brad

On 6/22/2015 6:25 PM, Kevin Wollenweber via Jfw wrote:
You know, with all the hardships that I read within this EList,
especially regarding Netflix and other such sites-I know I'm having my
share of woes regarding these-I think the fault lay not only with
sites like Netflix
that
change configurations as often as they change their underwear, but
also
with
Freedom Scientific for not keeping the programs compatible and current
with
a lot of new programs and changing graphics. If screenreaders were
able
to
recognize changing graphics, I think things would be a lot more
accessible.
No one saw this Netflix change coming; I mean, the site is definitely
changed completely to the point where I cannot find my DVD queue; if
they were phasing out the DVD queue, news of this should have been
announced to subscribers long ago, but if this is merely a
configuration issue where
more
is made of graphics, well, then I guess that, right now, they'll lose
a
lot
of subscribers who can't figure out the situation, but my hope is that
screenreading software is keeping up with the times, because they're
certainly *NOT* slowing down for us.



Kevin

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Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Tom Behler
 

Ted:

Another list member and I worked on that strategy yesterday, and although it
fixed the problem in Firefox, the problem in IE 11 is still there.

Am waiting on a return call from FS tech support, hopefully later this
morning.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Tom, this is weird, but it may work. Try redoing your forms mode settings.
I don't mean they're wrong, or not what you want. Just try fiddling with
them again, and see if it helps. Sounds weird, but experience tells me it
might work

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

I thought I had tried the space bar before, but just to be sure, I tried it
again. Still no luck.

Again, I get the higher click that indicates I'm in forms mode, but no text
gets entered when I type.

Hitting F5 to refresh the screen doesn't help either.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: j Bron
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

This might sound stupid but for the past year I hit the space bar instead of
the enter key to get forms mode. Good luck!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the
internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type,
nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms
mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I have
tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to
be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Lisle. Something tells me this isn't going to work. This is for two reasons. First, Tom did several JAWS repairs. Second, the forms mode settings would need to be wrong in two files (the one for IE and the one for Firefox) for this to be an effective remedy.
Bill White billwhite92701@...

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:17 AM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Tom, this is weird, but it may work. Try redoing your forms mode settings. I don't mean they're wrong, or not what you want. Just try fiddling with them again, and see if it helps. Sounds weird, but experience tells me it might work

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

I thought I had tried the space bar before, but just to be sure, I tried it again. Still no luck.

Again, I get the higher click that indicates I'm in forms mode, but no text gets entered when I type.

Hitting F5 to refresh the screen doesn't help either.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: j Bron
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

This might sound stupid but for the past year I hit the space bar instead of the enter key to get forms mode. Good luck!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type, nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I have tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan











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Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Tom, this is weird, but it may work. Try redoing your forms mode settings. I don't mean they're wrong, or not what you want. Just try fiddling with them again, and see if it helps. Sounds weird, but experience tells me it might work

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

I thought I had tried the space bar before, but just to be sure, I tried it again. Still no luck.

Again, I get the higher click that indicates I'm in forms mode, but no text gets entered when I type.

Hitting F5 to refresh the screen doesn't help either.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: j Bron
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

This might sound stupid but for the past year I hit the space bar instead of the enter key to get forms mode. Good luck!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type, nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I have tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

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