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Re: need help with thunderbird

douglas richard dexheimer
 

I use nvda on a windows 7 machine; in thunderbird control+w gets me out of the message back to the message listview.

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Re: Scanners.

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

The scanner (and any accessories) is the hardware.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:30 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

Mitchell and others, That does get me started.

So, if I get a scanner, what does that involve? Is there hardware that is
involved there? I am not that savvy about operating systems and the like,
just, if it works and I can do it, I use it or learn it.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Scanners.


Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces
of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

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Arnold
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that
or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: need help with thunderbird

Ward Dudley
 

Shift plus F6

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Re: JFW 16 with IE 11 crashing with Amazon

Adrian Spratt
 

Amazon's website has changed in the past few days. Although it doesn't crash my system, as I navigate down a page, some areas start JAWS jabbering away and I can do nothing to shut it up until it's done. I've learned to avoid those areas. Perhaps more helpfully, there's a link you should find right at the top that will take you to what Amazon says is its accessible version. I don't use that version, but it might be a workaround.

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Subject: JFW 16 with IE 11 crashing with Amazon

Hi,

Running JFW 16, IE 11, Windows 7. IE crashes and Jaws goes silent when I
attempt to use the Amazon web site. Any ideas?

Thanks.


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Re: Scanners.

Adrian Spratt
 

I think there are several loose ends here, and I'll leave one or two dangling, but here goes:

Scanning involves both hardware and software. The hardware is typically a flatbed device that takes up a lot of room. I use the Hovercam, which has a tiny footprint and can easily be moved out of the way. It consists of a small base, a tallish stand, and a piece you pull out from the stand and raise above the desk surface. When purchased from IRTI, an adaptive products company in California, it comes with a mat that you unfold and lay out when you're ready to scan. The mat has raised lines that show you where to position the Hovercam and where to place the paper.

OCR (optical character recognition) software converts images on paper to digital text. You can obtain OCR software from a variety of places. IRTI has its own software, and its tech support staff will take you by phone, at no extra cost and no matter how much time it takes, through the setup process and associate the software with the Hovercam. The software you mention is FS's OpenBook. There are others.

The software you'd need to copy photographs, etc., is different. One example is Photoshop, which I believe is owned by Adobe. But this software is not OCR software. I don't know if both can be run on the same system, but I imagine they can. It just gets more expensive.

Going back to the Hovercam, although it can't do automatic feeding, you can pile a stack of pages neatly on the mat, scan the top page, remove that page, scan the next, and so on. The photographing of each page is done in literally a moment (a second or less). When you finish photographing the stack, you press a single key to start the recognition process, where the OCR software takes over and converts the pictures into text. This takes longer than scanning, but it's still fast.

As I finish, I realize I'm promoting IRTI's combination of software and the Hovercam, which I don't really mean to. For anyone needing to conserve space, the combination is ideal and IRTI makes the process simple. Obviously, other options also work. In fact, you have lots of choices, and they aren't all dependent on adaptive product suppliers. But by explaining my experience, I hope I get across the concepts involved.

One last point. There is no need of sighted assistance in the OCR process. I do it all the time on my own. Even the setup process can be done without sighted assistance, but at least for me, the help I got at that stage save me a lot of time.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

Mitchell and others, That does get me started.

So, if I get a scanner, what does that involve? Is there hardware that is
involved there? I am not that savvy about operating systems and the like,
just, if it works and I can do it, I use it or learn it.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Scanners.


Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be
operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces
of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners
with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that
or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I have a goot place on a table or on the desk, which would place it between my computer and my husband's - the more likely place. Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: Scanners.


Carolyn:

Space for a flatbed scanner is always a consideration. I do not share
Marshall's problem because I have a very nice computer desk with a cabinet
in the lower right area of the desk that nicely accommodates my
printer/scanner and sits on a sliding pad. When I need to print, copy or
scan, I simply open the cabinet door, slide the printer out and perform the
necessary task. When completed, it easily slides back into the cabinet.

I am not 100% sure about scanning photographs, but my sighted wife believes
the HP 3820 does scan photos.

Daniel

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

Now, there is a point worth consideration. Will this scanner scan pictures
into the computer?

I am making a scanner file and compiling all of these greatly appreciated
responses to my question.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Marshall Scott" <mfscott@me.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi Carolyn,
I purchased an all-in-one printer last year and found out a couple of
things. The first is that in order to place a document on the scanner
bed;I had to put the scanner directly in front of me on my desk. This
took up a lot of useful space. I also found that placing a document on
the scanner while sitting down required stretching uncomfortably.
Also, if you don't do a lot of printing and don't need color printing.
I'd get a laser printer. While the cartridge is more expensive than one
for an inkjet printer, it lasts longer
Marshall

On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that
or something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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need help with thunderbird

elayneh
 

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Re: Scanners.

Daniel McBride
 

Carolyn:

Space for a flatbed scanner is always a consideration. I do not share
Marshall's problem because I have a very nice computer desk with a cabinet
in the lower right area of the desk that nicely accommodates my
printer/scanner and sits on a sliding pad. When I need to print, copy or
scan, I simply open the cabinet door, slide the printer out and perform the
necessary task. When completed, it easily slides back into the cabinet.

I am not 100% sure about scanning photographs, but my sighted wife believes
the HP 3820 does scan photos.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Scanners.

Now, there is a point worth consideration. Will this scanner scan pictures
into the computer?

I am making a scanner file and compiling all of these greatly appreciated
responses to my question.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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From: "Marshall Scott via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Marshall Scott" <mfscott@me.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi Carolyn,
I purchased an all-in-one printer last year and found out a couple of
things. The first is that in order to place a document on the scanner
bed;I had to put the scanner directly in front of me on my desk. This
took up a lot of useful space. I also found that placing a document on
the scanner while sitting down required stretching uncomfortably.
Also, if you don't do a lot of printing and don't need color printing.
I'd get a laser printer. While the cartridge is more expensive than one
for an inkjet printer, it lasts longer
Marshall

On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out
there more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that
or something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Now, there is a point worth consideration. Will this scanner scan pictures into the computer?

I am making a scanner file and compiling all of these greatly appreciated responses to my question.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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From: "Marshall Scott via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Marshall Scott" <mfscott@me.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi Carolyn,
I purchased an all-in-one printer last year and found out a couple of things. The first is that in order to place a document on the scanner bed;I had to put the scanner directly in front of me on my desk. This took up a lot of useful space. I also found that placing a document on the scanner while sitting down required stretching uncomfortably.
Also, if you don't do a lot of printing and don't need color printing. I'd get a laser printer. While the cartridge is more expensive than one for an inkjet printer, it lasts longer
Marshall

On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Interesting. So this system will read material that you feed to the scanner? If it does, then, at a little less than half price, when there is a sighted person here all the time . . . ?

I will save your information as well as the information about Open Book and Pearl. However, I tended to lean toward something like you're talking about. Just a little uncertain here.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:50 PM
Subject: RE: Scanners.


Carolyn:

I have Open Book with the Pearl Camera Scanner. I rarely use it due to its
limitations. I recently purchased an HP Office Jet Pro 8620
printer/copier/scanner and Adobe Pro X software to be able to edit and read
the scans. This works much better than the Open Book & Pearl Camera.

Mitchell is correct about my need to have a sighted person assist me with
the scanning, but I simply accept that as part of life.

My HP unit was $279, on sale, at Best Buy, and the Adobe Pro X will run
about $450. However, when I obtained the Open Book & Pearl system 3 years
ago, it was near $1000. I have no idea what it would cost today, but I
prefer the flat bed HP scanner with Adobe Pro X. I, too, will be getting a
new PC soon and I do not intend to download my Open Book & Pearl system on
my new PC. That's just me. Others might disagree.

Daniel


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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well. It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR. Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Mitchell and others, That does get me started.

So, if I get a scanner, what does that involve? Is there hardware that is involved there? I am not that savvy about operating systems and the like, just, if it works and I can do it, I use it or learn it.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Scanners.


Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: JFW 16 with IE 11 crashing with Amazon

Luis Difut
 

Switch to using Firefox with Amazon.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of rhs--- via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:35 PM
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Subject: JFW 16 with IE 11 crashing with Amazon

Hi,

Running JFW 16, IE 11, Windows 7. IE crashes and Jaws goes silent when I
attempt to use the Amazon web site. Any ideas?

Thanks.


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Re: Scanners.

Marshall Scott
 

Hi Carolyn,
I purchased an all-in-one printer last year and found out a couple of things. The first is that in order to place a document on the scanner bed;I had to put the scanner directly in front of me on my desk. This took up a lot of useful space. I also found that placing a document on the scanner while sitting down required stretching uncomfortably.
Also, if you don't do a lot of printing and don't need color printing. I'd get a laser printer. While the cartridge is more expensive than one for an inkjet printer, it lasts longer
Marshall

On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Daniel McBride
 

Carolyn:

I have Open Book with the Pearl Camera Scanner. I rarely use it due to its
limitations. I recently purchased an HP Office Jet Pro 8620
printer/copier/scanner and Adobe Pro X software to be able to edit and read
the scans. This works much better than the Open Book & Pearl Camera.

Mitchell is correct about my need to have a sighted person assist me with
the scanning, but I simply accept that as part of life.

My HP unit was $279, on sale, at Best Buy, and the Adobe Pro X will run
about $450. However, when I obtained the Open Book & Pearl system 3 years
ago, it was near $1000. I have no idea what it would cost today, but I
prefer the flat bed HP scanner with Adobe Pro X. I, too, will be getting a
new PC soon and I do not intend to download my Open Book & Pearl system on
my new PC. That's just me. Others might disagree.

Daniel

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi,

If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well. It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR. Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

HTH

Russell

On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Re: Scanners.

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner). OpenBook is not a
scanner. Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner. While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually. For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer. That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it. I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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Scanners.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or something like that?

Thanks.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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JFW 16 with IE 11 crashing with Amazon

Ralph Supernaw
 

Hi,

Running JFW 16, IE 11, Windows 7. IE crashes and Jaws goes silent when I
attempt to use the Amazon web site. Any ideas?

Thanks.


Re: Jaws 16 issue with touch screen at login

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

not sure if this will help. On a standard keyboard you can press insert- 1 on the number row above the keyboard. In this mode pressing any key will not activate the keystroke. JAWS will only announce what the key function is. Insert-1 is a toggle on and off. Perhaps your laptop keyboard has a similar insert-1 toggle and it is stuck. However it seems a power down and reboot would clear this command and boot up as usual. Though it could be worth checking out. Just a thought.

Andre

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Jaws 16 issue with touch screen at login

Hi everyone,

I am running Jaws 16 on a Lenovo Yoga Pro2 laptop. It has a touch screen, which I hardly ever use. I am running into an issue when my laptop goes to sleep. It goes to the Windows lockscreen. In the past all I had to do was press the power button on my laptop and I would be taken to the Windows lock screen where I could simply tab to the password field, enter my password, and I’d be right where I left off when my laptop went to sleep.

Now, however, every time my laptop goes to sleep, when I press the power button nothing seems to happen. If I touch the screen though, Jaws is running and I can swipe to the various choices, i.e. password, shutdown, etc. but I cannot do anything. Double-tapping on the password field does nothing. Double-tapping on the shutdown button does nothing. And, nothing happens when I try to use the keyboard. It’s as if Jaws is in touch screen mode and the keyboard is not at all active. I called FS, and the guy there didn’t have a clue as to what to do. He suggested that I turn off the lock screen. I may do this, but at the moment I cannot get in to Windows at all. I press and hold the power button to turn off my laptop, but, when I turn it on, nothing happens… not evenwhen I touch the screen.

So, my question… is there a keystroke I may have accidentally pressed to put Jaws in some sort of touch screen mode?

Thanks for any and all ideas!

Russell
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