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Re: Alt key stops working

T. Civitello
 

This happens to me on a PC. I think it is a Jaws problem. Usually unloading Jaws and restarting Jaws fixes it but at times it requires re booting the PC to fix it. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Alt key stops working

Hi everyone,

Has anyone ever run into the issue where the alt key stops working?
This is happening on a Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 and Jaws 16.
What will happen is all of a sudden the alt key just does nothing. In
a Word document, pressing the alt key will not bring up the menubar.
The same thing happens in every program, including the Jaws Window.
Alt tab will still work, but no luck bringing up the menubar in any
program. The only way to fix the problem is to re-boot the laptop.
This is happening on a regular basis. It will work after a re-boot,
but will stop again at random times.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Russell

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Alt key stops working

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi everyone,

Has anyone ever run into the issue where the alt key stops working?
This is happening on a Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 and Jaws 16.
What will happen is all of a sudden the alt key just does nothing. In
a Word document, pressing the alt key will not bring up the menubar.
The same thing happens in every program, including the Jaws Window.
Alt tab will still work, but no luck bringing up the menubar in any
program. The only way to fix the problem is to re-boot the laptop.
This is happening on a regular basis. It will work after a re-boot,
but will stop again at random times.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Russell


bookmarks in Mozilla

Gennie Eachus <eachusgm@...>
 

Hi,



I have to use Mozilla for my bank and grocery store. I have tried to create
bookmarks. I can't retrieve the bookmarks. Has anyone had any success with
using bookmarks?



Thanks.



Gennie

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Re: JAWS and Hotwire

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Annabelle,
Could you either click on the links, or have a sighted friend identify them, and then use graphic labeler?
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison via Jfw
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:02 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: JAWS and Hotwire

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I wonder if any of you fellow JAWS members have run into the scenario I'm
currently in as of this moment. As of now, I can't fully access
http://www.hotwire.com. I can search for a flight, but I can't show the
flight details. I tried talking to someone at Hotwire's reservation desk,
but they said that there are no issues with their website, and that I simply
need to restart my machine. This woman, Rose, had no idea that I was blind,
and even when I told her, she still didn't understand what I mean. For
example, when I receive emails from the Hotwire Tripwatcher, the details of
the trips I'm watching used to be plain text within the body of the Email.
Now, they've put links in the email, which are apparently pictures. Does
anybody have any suggestions or ideas?
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JAWS and Hotwire

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I wonder if any of you fellow JAWS members have run into the scenario I'm
currently in as of this moment. As of now, I can't fully access
http://www.hotwire.com. I can search for a flight, but I can't show the
flight details. I tried talking to someone at Hotwire's reservation desk,
but they said that there are no issues with their website, and that I simply
need to restart my machine. This woman, Rose, had no idea that I was blind,
and even when I told her, she still didn't understand what I mean. For
example, when I receive emails from the Hotwire Tripwatcher, the details of
the trips I'm watching used to be plain text within the body of the Email.
Now, they've put links in the email, which are apparently pictures. Does
anybody have any suggestions or ideas?
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Re: bookmarks in Mozilla

Maggi Ostrowski <mio528@...>
 

Hi Gennie,

Once you open Firefox, Ctrl-Shft-B will bring up bookmark options. Or, you
could just go to the Bookmarks button if Mozilla is your home page. Ctrl-F
while in Firefox will bring up menus and you can arrow right to Bookmarks
then down arrow for options.

Maggi

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gennie Eachus
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@...
Subject: bookmarks in Mozilla

Hi,



I have to use Mozilla for my bank and grocery store. I have tried to create
bookmarks. I can't retrieve the bookmarks. Has anyone had any success with
using bookmarks?



Thanks.



Gennie

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Re: bookmarks in Mozilla

Maria Campbell
 

Are you using control plus shift plus b to show all bookmarks? Or are you looking at alt plus b for bookmarks in general?
There is an application to sync your Internet Explorer bookmarks to Mozilla, but I forgot how it's done.
Sorry.


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On 2/27/2015 2:27 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw wrote:
Hi,


I have to use Mozilla for my bank and grocery store. I have tried to create
bookmarks. I can't retrieve the bookmarks. Has anyone had any success with
using bookmarks?


Thanks.


Gennie

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Re: Avast disabling JAWS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Do results vary between the free and paid versions?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via Jfw
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:24 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Avast disabling JAWS

Just changing the subject line to be more descriptive, since "Food for thought" just makes me hungry!

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:52 AM
To: Maria Campbell ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought

Hello ,
I had purchased Avast, and a few weeks later took my laptop into "Mothers,"
(a well respected computer shop in Victoria, BC.) for another issue. As the technician worked on my machine he proceeded to unload Avast saying that Microsoft Essentials performed the same tasks, and when there are multiple protection programs at work they tend to fight with each other.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Food for thought

Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone mum on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some of my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by virus protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?

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Re: Avast disabling JAWS

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Avira used to be accessible, but it no longer is. The problem is that it
now runs from the system tray, and JAWS seems to be unable to access its
user interface.

As for Norton, it depends a lot on how much ram you have.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:24 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Avast disabling JAWS

Just changing the subject line to be more descriptive, since "Food for
thought" just makes me hungry!

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:52 AM
To: Maria Campbell ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought

Hello ,
I had purchased Avast, and a few weeks later took my laptop into "Mothers,"
(a well respected computer shop in Victoria, BC.) for another issue. As the
technician worked on my machine he proceeded to unload Avast saying that
Microsoft Essentials performed the same tasks, and when there are multiple
protection programs at work they tend to fight with each other.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Food for thought

Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone mum
on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any
thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely
affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as
being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some of
my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by virus
protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?

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Avast disabling JAWS

Tim Ford
 

Just changing the subject line to be more descriptive, since "Food for thought" just makes me hungry!

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:52 AM
To: Maria Campbell ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought

Hello ,
I had purchased Avast, and a few weeks later took my laptop into "Mothers,"
(a well respected computer shop in Victoria, BC.) for another issue. As the
technician worked on my machine he proceeded to unload Avast saying that
Microsoft Essentials performed the same tasks, and when there are multiple
protection programs at work they tend to fight with each other.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Food for thought

Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone mum
on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any
thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely
affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as
being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some of
my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by virus
protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?

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Re: Food for thought

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello ,
I had purchased Avast, and a few weeks later took my laptop into "Mothers," (a well respected computer shop in Victoria, BC.) for another issue. As the technician worked on my machine he proceeded to unload Avast saying that Microsoft Essentials performed the same tasks, and when there are multiple protection programs at work they tend to fight with each other.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Food for thought

Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone mum
on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any
thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely
affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as
being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some of
my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by virus
protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?

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Avast and JAWS

Tim Ford
 

Changing subject line to be more descriptive.

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: Ariel via Jfw
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:06 AM
To: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought

I have been using Avast Free since late 2009, I've never had any issues
as far as screen readers being detected as threats.
On 2/27/2015 8:56 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw wrote:
Amen. I'm in the market right now, so I'll put that on my "given-up--for-Lent" list.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:51 PM
To: Brad Martin; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought


Remind me not to mess around with Avast. Smile.


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On 2/26/2015 7:42 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
I had this happen with Avast on three different computers, but only
one time on each machine. I booted up, and Avast promptly deleted the
jfw.exe file. It happened on all three computers around the same time,
so I assumed an update to Avast definitions prevented the problem from
recurring. When JAWS quit working, I went into Safe Mode, did a
system restore, and JAWS came back. I never had that problem again on
the same machine.

Brad



On 2/26/2015 6:40 PM, Peter Donahue via Jfw wrote:
Maria Campbell via Jfw wrote:
Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone
mum on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any
thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely
affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as
being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some
of my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by
virus protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?
Good evening Maria and everyone,
All worked well for a week until we came home one evening. Avast said
it detected a threat. Later we discovered that it removed JAWS.
Freedom Scientific told me that this is a know issue with Avast. It
can only be remedied with assistance from Avast. It sounds like we
need to urge developers of antivirus and other computer protection
pacakges to redesign their products so they will not detect assistive
software as threats. Avast works well with JFW under Windows XP.

Peter Donahue


We recently had this happen on my wife's computer running Windows
7 and Avast.

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Re: Food for thought

Ariel
 

I have been using Avast Free since late 2009, I've never had any issues as far as screen readers being detected as threats.

On 2/27/2015 8:56 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw wrote:
Amen. I'm in the market right now, so I'll put that on my "given-up--for-Lent" list.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:51 PM
To: Brad Martin; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought


Remind me not to mess around with Avast. Smile.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
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On 2/26/2015 7:42 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
I had this happen with Avast on three different computers, but only
one time on each machine. I booted up, and Avast promptly deleted the
jfw.exe file. It happened on all three computers around the same time,
so I assumed an update to Avast definitions prevented the problem from
recurring. When JAWS quit working, I went into Safe Mode, did a
system restore, and JAWS came back. I never had that problem again on
the same machine.

Brad



On 2/26/2015 6:40 PM, Peter Donahue via Jfw wrote:
Maria Campbell via Jfw wrote:
Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone
mum on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any
thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely
affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as
being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some
of my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by
virus protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?
Good evening Maria and everyone,
All worked well for a week until we came home one evening. Avast said
it detected a threat. Later we discovered that it removed JAWS.
Freedom Scientific told me that this is a know issue with Avast. It
can only be remedied with assistance from Avast. It sounds like we
need to urge developers of antivirus and other computer protection
pacakges to redesign their products so they will not detect assistive
software as threats. Avast works well with JFW under Windows XP.

Peter Donahue


We recently had this happen on my wife's computer running Windows
7 and Avast.

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Re: Food for thought

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

In what way is Avira unusable. I used it for a few years (see earlier post), and only quit using it in 2012 because the last time I tried to get a new database it wouldn't install; it downloaded, but would not install. I found Norton to be a resource hog under 98, but never had any trouble with it once I got my hands on a multi-core processor under XP

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Food for thought

I have used several antivirus programs, and fortunately none of them treated JAWS as a virus. I am not surprised, however, that others have encountered such incidents, for most antivirus and antispyware applications continue to be either partially or completely inaccessible; for instance, JAWS doesn't seem to interact at all with Avira.

As for Sharon's comment, Norton doesn't just slow down JAWS. It impacts the entire operating system because it uses up an unusually large amount of memory. For that reason, I don't recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted alike.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Food for thought

Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone mum on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some of my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by virus protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?

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Re: Food for thought

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Amen. I'm in the market right now, so I'll put that on my "given-up--for-Lent" list.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:51 PM
To: Brad Martin; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought


Remind me not to mess around with Avast. Smile.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
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On 2/26/2015 7:42 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
I had this happen with Avast on three different computers, but only
one time on each machine. I booted up, and Avast promptly deleted the
jfw.exe file. It happened on all three computers around the same time,
so I assumed an update to Avast definitions prevented the problem from
recurring. When JAWS quit working, I went into Safe Mode, did a
system restore, and JAWS came back. I never had that problem again on
the same machine.

Brad



On 2/26/2015 6:40 PM, Peter Donahue via Jfw wrote:
Maria Campbell via Jfw wrote:
Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone
mum on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any
thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely
affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as
being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some
of my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by
virus protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?
Good evening Maria and everyone,
All worked well for a week until we came home one evening. Avast said
it detected a threat. Later we discovered that it removed JAWS.
Freedom Scientific told me that this is a know issue with Avast. It
can only be remedied with assistance from Avast. It sounds like we
need to urge developers of antivirus and other computer protection
pacakges to redesign their products so they will not detect assistive
software as threats. Avast works well with JFW under Windows XP.

Peter Donahue


We recently had this happen on my wife's computer running Windows
7 and Avast.

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Re: Food for thought

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Weirdest thing that ever happened to me was when Avira put my volume control in Quarantine. If that happened now, I'd be up the creek, as I had to do a restore to fix it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Robin Frost via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 7:16 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought

Hi,
In my experience portions of things related to screen readers being flagged by antivirus packages has been few and far between, have more often than not been false positives I.E. not really a problem just a false flag and more often than not happened with antivirus packages that are free or at lower price points. I've never had any that caused damage that couldn’t easily be rectified in short order once the antivirus maker or screen reader manufacturer was made aware of the issue.
and the few times it did happen it wasn't JFW that was flagged it was another screen reader package.

Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Food for thought

Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone mum on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some of my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by virus protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?

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Re: Food for thought

Brad Martin <brad@...>
 

Oh, I totally didn't. I had my roommate read the screen for me at home, and someone at work read for me there. I just find that System Restore is vastly more successful if done in safe mode.

Brad

On 2/26/2015 8:12 PM, James Malone wrote:
Hi Brad,
How did you do this in safe mode without speech?
James

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:42 PM
To: Peter Donahue; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought

I had this happen with Avast on three different computers, but only one time
on each machine. I booted up, and Avast promptly deleted the jfw.exe file.
It happened on all three computers around the same time, so I assumed an
update to Avast definitions prevented the problem from recurring. When JAWS
quit working, I went into Safe Mode, did a system restore, and JAWS came
back. I never had that problem again on the same machine.

Brad



On 2/26/2015 6:40 PM, Peter Donahue via Jfw wrote:
Maria Campbell via Jfw wrote:
Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone
mum on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any
thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely
affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as
being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some
of my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by
virus protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?
Good evening Maria and everyone,
All worked well for a week until we came home one evening. Avast said
it detected a threat. Later we discovered that it removed JAWS.
Freedom Scientific told me that this is a know issue with Avast. It
can only be remedied with assistance from Avast. It sounds like we
need to urge developers of antivirus and other computer protection
pacakges to redesign their products so they will not detect assistive
software as threats. Avast works well with JFW under Windows XP.

Peter Donahue


We recently had this happen on my wife's computer running Windows
7 and Avast.

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Re: Food for thought

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

I have used several antivirus programs, and fortunately none of them treated
JAWS as a virus. I am not surprised, however, that others have encountered
such incidents, for most antivirus and antispyware applications continue to
be either partially or completely inaccessible; for instance, JAWS doesn't
seem to interact at all with Avira.

As for Sharon's comment, Norton doesn't just slow down JAWS. It impacts the
entire operating system because it uses up an unusually large amount of
memory. For that reason, I don't recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted
alike.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Food for thought

Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone mum on
the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any
thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely affected
by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some of my
JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by virus
protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?

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Maria Campbell
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Re: Food for thought

James Malone
 

Hi Brad,
How did you do this in safe mode without speech?
James

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:42 PM
To: Peter Donahue; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Food for thought

I had this happen with Avast on three different computers, but only one time
on each machine. I booted up, and Avast promptly deleted the jfw.exe file.
It happened on all three computers around the same time, so I assumed an
update to Avast definitions prevented the problem from recurring. When JAWS
quit working, I went into Safe Mode, did a system restore, and JAWS came
back. I never had that problem again on the same machine.

Brad



On 2/26/2015 6:40 PM, Peter Donahue via Jfw wrote:
Maria Campbell via Jfw wrote:
Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone
mum on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any
thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely
affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as
being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some
of my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by
virus protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?
Good evening Maria and everyone,
All worked well for a week until we came home one evening. Avast said
it detected a threat. Later we discovered that it removed JAWS.
Freedom Scientific told me that this is a know issue with Avast. It
can only be remedied with assistance from Avast. It sounds like we
need to urge developers of antivirus and other computer protection
pacakges to redesign their products so they will not detect assistive
software as threats. Avast works well with JFW under Windows XP.

Peter Donahue


We recently had this happen on my wife's computer running Windows
7 and Avast.

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Re: Food for thought

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yes

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Feb 2015, at 1:50 am, Maria Campbell via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:


Remind me not to mess around with Avast. Smile.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Blaise Pascal

On 2/26/2015 7:42 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
I had this happen with Avast on three different computers, but only one time on each machine. I booted up, and Avast promptly deleted the jfw.exe file. It happened on all three computers around the same time, so I assumed an update to Avast definitions prevented the problem from recurring. When JAWS quit working, I went into Safe Mode, did a system restore, and JAWS came back. I never had that problem again on the same machine.

Brad



On 2/26/2015 6:40 PM, Peter Donahue via Jfw wrote:
Maria Campbell via Jfw wrote:
Well I sent a message to the other list, which has absolutely gone mum on the subject I put out there.
As many of us are on both list, I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the possibility that versions of JAWS can be adversely affected by virus protection that might think of aspects of JAWS as being malware.
I believe this has happened to me in the past, thus messing up some of my JAWS versions and possibly passing on any corruption caused by virus protection deleting any files considered suspect.
Yes, no, maybe so?
Good evening Maria and everyone,
All worked well for a week until we came home one evening. Avast said it detected a threat. Later we discovered that it removed JAWS. Freedom Scientific told me that this is a know issue with Avast. It can only be remedied with assistance from Avast. It sounds like we need to urge developers of antivirus and other computer protection pacakges to redesign their products so they will not detect assistive software as threats. Avast works well with JFW under Windows XP.

Peter Donahue


We recently had this happen on my wife's computer running Windows 7 and Avast.

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