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Re: google chrome?

Kirsten Edmondson <kirsten.edmondson@...>
 

It is basically accessible. It's fine for reading webpages and doing google
stuff, one problem with it is that sometimes edit boxes don't work that
well, sometimes it doesn't read what you've written.

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Hi, how accessible is google chrome with jaws?
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Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way

Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@...>
 

Control panel, and Windows explorer.

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Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


HI
I didn't know about the classic menue either. I like the XP start menue.
What is the other one that can either be XP or classic?

Marsha


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Re: Bank Websites with Jaws

ohio1803@...
 

Hi there,

I sure hope this is JAWS related, alright.
At least I have been glad to read how each of you are finding the e-banking world using a screen reading software, in this case, and mine, Job Access With Speech, or JAWS.

I can still see the screen some, and each month for years now I've been doing my main e-banking and credit card transaction downloads and payments using IE9 and JAWS, and Quicken Deluxe 2009. I do not yet enjoy the process, but can do it. I just sigh relief and go have a plate of cookies and mile when I am finished. Highly recommended as a motivator!

For me it is a mixed bag. I sometimes do pretty well. And other times I get hung up and scared to death I am going to make a mistake.
I wish it were easier. But it is better than it was a couple years ago now. I think the screen reading software, for me latest update in JAWS 12, and the websites have improved. Quicken has not improved all that much but I can using it still pretty well with keyboard shortcuts for all the basics. I hope to get around to setting up the APH product, Money Talks, but as yet have not transitioned there.

One of the nightmares for me is that I have to really watch out because JAWS will echo something that has just passed. Or I will think I am on this or that button, only to find out by going back and forth or up and down arrow, that in fact, JAWS was NOT on the button or field that it has spoken.

It has been stated on this list that this is a known issue with JAWS. And I don't mind having to put up with it, except when it is as important as it is when doing important online functions like this!

On each of the sites that I regularly use, Chase Visa, Bank of America, American Express, and my local banking institution, I am good about half to three-quarter of the time. But when I get myself all hung up, I am glad I can still see just enough to get myself out of the jam, to sort things out. But that is not either a reliable thing as my peepers are pretty much not always able to make things out as I would like, and not for so very long as I like many others have a degenerative eye condition for which there is fix or upgrade.

I am sure you also have each noticed that it is the case where invariably you just get fairly adept and comfortable with using these websites, and they go and change the security and redesign the website with another layer you have to learn all over again. I am sure in some ways, it is very necessary to keep our accounts secure. But sometimes, the old paper checkbook and a check writing guide and a talking calculator look mighty fine again to this nervous Nellie.

Any more tips some of you may have for navigating these aforementioned types of e-banking places, I am all ears and fingers.
And good luck to you.

Thanks.
Rik


Re: google chrome?

Adi Kushnir <adikushnir@...>
 

Hi,
The newest version - the beta one is accessibile.



Regards,

Adi.

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 7:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: google chrome?

As far as I know, it is not accessible
Regards.
Angela from Italy.


"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless
of disability is an essential aspect". (slogan del WAI).

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Re: recommendation for disk clone software

Gerald Levy
 

Unfortunately, there is no disk imaging program I am aware of that is totally JAWS accessible. One imaging program that is partially JAWS accessible is Image for Windows, which is only accessible during the backup procedure. With this and every other imaging program I have looked at, you need sighted help to restore the image from an external hard drive because there is no speech accompanying the rescue CD that all these programs require you to create. There is a series of audio tutorials on the JAWS Users audio page that explains how to use Image for Windows to back up and restore a hard drive, but some sighted assistance and/or technical expertise is required, because you have to be able to open the case of your computer to swap out the internal drive. Just this morning, I was exploring Seagate Disk Wizard, which is a free version of the highly-acclaimedAcronis TrueImage program, but it turned out to be unusable with JAWS

Gerald

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From: "Eric Caron" <ecaron1@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:24 AM
Subject: recommendation for disk clone software


hello list,

Is there a simple possibly free, program to make a bootable backup of my windows hard disk.

I'm looking for a way to back up my internal disk so that in case of disaster I can restore it from a external disk and have it revert back to a earlier state.
Simple to use and Jaws friendly would be very helpful!

Anyone have any tips?


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Re: recommendation for disk clone software

Gerald Levy
 

In XP, you can only use the built-in Windows Backup utility to back up your documents and settings. You cannot realistically use it to back up and restore an entire local hard drive because it requires booting from floppy disk, and most computers produced within the last few years no longer include built-in floppy drives. And using a program like Casper requires a fair amount of technical expertise.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: recommendation for disk clone software


many people are using Windows Backup as well - that one's free.


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Re: recommendation for disk clone software

Eric Caron <ecaron1@...>
 

Chris and others,

Do either of these or both of these create a bootable clone?

Can you give me a little more detail. is the Windows backup part of my windows 7 OS? If so where do I find it?

Is Casper something I will Google Casper but again does it make a bootable clone?

Again tips are greatly appreciated.
I have had several crashes with my system recently and am tired of getting sighted help each time JAWS stops talking. My plan would be to keep a fairly recent bootable clone to revert to when this happens.

Thanks again for tips and leads.

Eric Caron

On Sep 3, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

many people are using Windows Backup as well - that one's free.


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Re: google chrome?

Angela Delicata <angeladelicata@...>
 

As far as I know, it is not accessible
Regards.
Angela from Italy.


"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless
of disability is an essential aspect". (slogan del WAI).

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Re: google chrome?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

AFAIK it isn't.

At 11:54 AM 9/3/2011, you wrote:
Hi, how accessible is google chrome with jaws?
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Re: recommendation for disk clone software

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

many people are using Windows Backup as well - that one's free.


google chrome?

daniel <gutz2020@...>
 

Hi, how accessible is google chrome with jaws?
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Re: recommendation for disk clone software

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Eric, many of us are using Casper.
Chris


recommendation for disk clone software

Eric Caron <ecaron1@...>
 

hello list,

Is there a simple possibly free, program to make a bootable backup of my windows hard disk.

I'm looking for a way to back up my internal disk so that in case of disaster I can restore it from a external disk and have it revert back to a earlier state.
Simple to use and Jaws friendly would be very helpful!

Anyone have any tips?


Eric Caron


Re: Bank Websites with Jaws

Steve <k8sp@...>
 

As far as I know, most of them should work well; I use Chase and a regional bank site and they both work well with either IE8/9 or Firefox. Most financial institutions have close to the same standards.

ONe thing some banks require, which you won't be able to do, is that they do a "security check" where they show a picture you previously selected and a pass-phrase. If you go to their page and the picture or phrase doesn't match what you initially specified, then you know it was hijacked and you shouldn't transact anything. The phrase is visible, but the picture obviously is not accessible. Chase does not do this, though and neither does Comerica..

I recall when I got started on iBanking, I had an issue with my security settings that wasn't letting me pay my bill. I called up my regional bank's customer support and spoke to a lady. I said as I was making an adjustment to IE's security settings that I used a screen reader. She said "Do you use Jaws?" I said as a matter of fact I did, and she said they made sure their site was optimized with Jaws before theyp put it on-line.

Steve
Lansing, MI

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Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 6:03 PM
Subject: Bank Websites with Jaws


Hi friends,

I'm looking to set up a new bank account and wondered if anyone can give me
some insights into their experience with their bank's website accessibility
with Jaws. Whatever bank I go to must have a website that will work well
with Jaws. By the way, I'm using Jaws 12.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Michael



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Re: Bank Websites with Jaws

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

I am told most do have decent websites for vips,but you need to think
further ahead than that, of the 17 banks being sued by the way 3 are the
best known we have in Uk,rest most likely in Usa,hope james will forgive
that observation

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Sent: 02 September 2011 23:03
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Bank Websites with Jaws

Hi friends,

I'm looking to set up a new bank account and wondered if anyone can give me
some insights into their experience with their bank's website accessibility
with Jaws. Whatever bank I go to must have a website that will work well
with Jaws. By the way, I'm using Jaws 12.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Michael



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Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

yes as I have mentioned several times now!

good night!
"do not mess in the affairs of dragons!
for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!"
- Draconous Cerulean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


That is the answer. I just switched over and it disappeared. Personally, I like the xp start menu, but I switched control panel to classic.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


Hi Dave,

I found the reason I am not showing the pin to start menu option. It is
because I am running the Classic Start Menu. It does show if I run the XP
Start
Menu. Take care.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Scrimenti
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


I decided to respond on-list because I know this is something others are
interested in, and might be making the same mistake. The problem is that
you're not on a file, you're on a folder. That's why you have the
"explore"
item in the context menu. You need to be on the actual jfw.exe file. on my
system, the full path is:
C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\11.0\jfw.exe
Obviously, I have Jaws 11. So when you get to the Jaws folder, don't press
applications. Press enter. Then go to whatever number version you have and
press enter. You'll find the jfw.exe file in there. Now you can press
applications, and find "pin to start menu".
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


> Hi Dave,
>
> Following your steps this is what is in my context menu;Open
> Explore
> Delete
> Rename
> Sort by Name
> Properties
>
> If you have a fix for this, would you please email me off list, since
this
> is no longer a Jaws issue? Thank you very much for giving me a heads
up
> on
> this potential problem. Take care.
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Scrimenti
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way
>
>
> Strange. I'm running XP, and I have that option in the context menu.
For
> example, go to JFW.exe in the freedom scientific folder in the
programs
> folder. Hit the applications key. The 1st item should be "open". Down
> arrow
> and the next option is "run as". Down arrow once more and the 3rd
item
is
> "pin to start menu".
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way
>
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > In XP there is not a, pin to start menu, option in the context
menu.
> At
> > least I have never seen that option on my computers. Also, not
> everybody
> > has a, start menu, option in their, Send To, folder. At least, I
> didn't
> &
> > had to add it. Take care.
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dave Scrimenti
> > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way
> >
> >
> > Again, not sure why you're doing so many steps for such a simple
> > operation.
> > I know some folks like to take the scenic rout when they travel,
but
> > there's
> > nothing to see here. Just go to the item you want to add, press
> > applications, and use the pin to start menu command. done.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
> > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way
> >
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Below is a different way to use the applications / context menu
to
> add
> > > items
> > > to the start menu if you are running XP.
> > >
> > > 1. Open Documents & Settings in Local Disc C.
> > > 2. Open your name folder and press the letter " S " until you
land
> on
> "
> > > Start Menu ."
> > > 3. Press the applications / context menu key.
> > > 4. Arrow up or down until you get to " Create Shortcut " and
press
> > enter.
> > > 5. Now, you have a Start Menu shortcut at the bottom of your
list.
> Cut
> > > this
> > > shortcut and paste it into the Send To folder. If it reads
> "Shortcut
> > to
> > > Start Menu ", highlight it, press the F2 key to edit it, and
delete
> > > shortcut
> > > to, so it reads Start Menu only, and press enter to save the
change.
> > Now,
> > > cut this and paste it into the Send To folder.
> > > Now, if there is a icon on your desktop or a program you want to
> have
> > in
> > > your
> > > Start Menu, just highlight it, press the applications / context
menu
> > key,
> > > arrow to Send To and press enter or press the letter " N " for
the
> Send
> > To
> > > folder and press enter, Now, arrow up or down to the Start
Menu
> > > selection
> > > or press the letter " S " until you have the Start Menu
selection
> > > highlighted, then press enter. You now have this program / Icon
in
> > your
> > > Start Menu.
> > > With a new addition to the Start Menu another thing to do is
make
> sure
> > > everything is in order. You do this by pressing the Windows key
to
> > open
> > > the
> > > Start Menu, pressing the applications / context menu key,
arrowing
> up
> > to
> > "
> > > Sort By Name ", and pressing enter.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps. Take care.
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Dave Scrimenti
> > > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:57 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS
13
be
> > out?
> > >
> > >
> > > I also use XP.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:21 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS
13
be
> > out?
> > >
> > >
> > > > She's using XP, not Vista or Windows7.
> > > > Dave Carlson
> > > > From my Dell Latitude 630.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
> > > > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 23:15
> > > > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS
13
> be
> > > out?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to do, but I
don't
> > know
> > > why
> > > > you're going through so many steps. If you want to add a
program
> to
> > the
> > > > start menu, just go to the program, press the applications
key,
> and
> > > choose
> > > > the "pin to start menu" command.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@gmail.com>
> > > > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13
be
> out?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >> Somebody wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hello there;
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Someone was asking how to add item to the start menu?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Are we asking for windows XP?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I wasn't sure about that. If using Windows 7, the previous
> > directions
> > > >> about pinning items to the Start Menu are correct. If we're
> > talking
> > > >> about
> > > >> XP, the procedure is almost as simple.
> > > >> 1. Find the program that you want to add to the Start Menu.
> > > >> 2. Press the Application key or Shift-f10, then arrow down
to
> Copy
> > > and
> > > >> press Enter.
> > > >> 3. Go to the Start button and use the application key again.
> Arrow
> > > down
> > > >> to Explore All Users and press Enter.
> > > >> 4. The Start Menu tree view will be open in Windows
Explorer.
> Press
> > > Tab
> > > >> once, then ctrl+v.
> > > >> 5. Press Alt+F4 to close Windows Explorer.
> > > >> 6. Open the Start menu as you normally do and you should
find
> the
> > new
> > > >> entry.
> > > >>
> > > >> Tom
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

I knew that but thanks, I found this out about an hour ago when I had some time to look into it. and I stated that it might have to do with the view used in a prior message as well, way earlier today, as in the second reply to Dave's messages!
I'm a hardware tech, I knew my machines weren't "messed up" and I even mentioned that it might be that view difference in my prior set, but no'o'o'o'o! I'm totally wrong according to a number of folks out here

well they can stuff it

I do have a good idea what I am talking about, and I will research things if there is a definite discrepancy!

elf
"do not mess in the affairs of dragons!
for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!"
- Draconous Cerulean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


HI Inthane,

You don't have messed up XP computers. If you run your start menu in the
Classic menu it doesn't show the pin to start menu option, but if you use
the XP Start menu it will show it. I am speaking of using the classic menu
in Task bar & staart menu properties. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
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To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


please exchange hmmmm for the word ham in that last message, my spell
checker got a little over exuberant and I miss keyed it automatically
before
the stop command made it from the brain to the fingers!

anyway
elf
"do not mess in the affairs of dragons!
for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!"
- Draconous Cerulean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


> Strange. I'm running XP, and I have that option in the context menu.
For
> example, go to JFW.exe in the freedom scientific folder in the programs
> folder. Hit the applications key. The 1st item should be "open". Down
> arrow and the next option is "run as". Down arrow once more and the 3rd
> item is "pin to start menu".
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way
>
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> In XP there is not a, pin to start menu, option in the context menu.
At
>> least I have never seen that option on my computers. Also, not
everybody
>> has a, start menu, option in their, Send To, folder. At least, I
didn't
>> &
>> had to add it. Take care.
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dave Scrimenti
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way
>>
>>
>> Again, not sure why you're doing so many steps for such a simple
>> operation.
>> I know some folks like to take the scenic rout when they travel, but
>> there's
>> nothing to see here. Just go to the item you want to add, press
>> applications, and use the pin to start menu command. done.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way
>>
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Below is a different way to use the applications / context menu to
add
>> > items
>> > to the start menu if you are running XP.
>> >
>> > 1. Open Documents & Settings in Local Disc C.
>> > 2. Open your name folder and press the letter " S " until you land
on
>> "
>> > Start Menu ."
>> > 3. Press the applications / context menu key.
>> > 4. Arrow up or down until you get to " Create Shortcut " and press
>> enter.
>> > 5. Now, you have a Start Menu shortcut at the bottom of your list.
>> Cut
>> > this
>> > shortcut and paste it into the Send To folder. If it reads
"Shortcut
>> to
>> > Start Menu ", highlight it, press the F2 key to edit it, and delete
>> > shortcut
>> > to, so it reads Start Menu only, and press enter to save the
change.
>> Now,
>> > cut this and paste it into the Send To folder.
>> > Now, if there is a icon on your desktop or a program you want to
have
>> in
>> > your
>> > Start Menu, just highlight it, press the applications / context
menu
>> key,
>> > arrow to Send To and press enter or press the letter " N " for the
>> Send
>> To
>> > folder and press enter, Now, arrow up or down to the Start Menu
>> > selection
>> > or press the letter " S " until you have the Start Menu selection
>> > highlighted, then press enter. You now have this program / Icon in
>> your
>> > Start Menu.
>> > With a new addition to the Start Menu another thing to do is make
sure
>> > everything is in order. You do this by pressing the Windows key to
>> open
>> > the
>> > Start Menu, pressing the applications / context menu key, arrowing
up
>> to
>> "
>> > Sort By Name ", and pressing enter.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps. Take care.
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Dave Scrimenti
>> > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:57 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13
be
>> out?
>> >
>> >
>> > I also use XP.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
>> > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:21 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13
be
>> out?
>> >
>> >
>> > > She's using XP, not Vista or Windows7.
>> > > Dave Carlson
>> > > From my Dell Latitude 630.
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
>> > > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 23:15
>> > > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13
be
>> > out?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to do, but I don't
>> know
>> > why
>> > > you're going through so many steps. If you want to add a program
to
>> the
>> > > start menu, just go to the program, press the applications key,
and
>> > choose
>> > > the "pin to start menu" command.
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@gmail.com>
>> > > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:21 PM
>> > > Subject: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be
>> out?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >> Somebody wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hello there;
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Someone was asking how to add item to the start menu?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Are we asking for windows XP?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> I wasn't sure about that. If using Windows 7, the previous
>> directions
>> > >> about pinning items to the Start Menu are correct. If we're
>> talking
>> > >> about
>> > >> XP, the procedure is almost as simple.
>> > >> 1. Find the program that you want to add to the Start Menu.
>> > >> 2. Press the Application key or Shift-f10, then arrow down to
>> Copy
>> > and
>> > >> press Enter.
>> > >> 3. Go to the Start button and use the application key again.
>> Arrow
>> > down
>> > >> to Explore All Users and press Enter.
>> > >> 4. The Start Menu tree view will be open in Windows Explorer.
>> Press
>> > Tab
>> > >> once, then ctrl+v.
>> > >> 5. Press Alt+F4 to close Windows Explorer.
>> > >> 6. Open the Start menu as you normally do and you should find
the
>> new
>> > >> entry.
>> > >>
>> > >> Tom
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

read on, there is a difference that changes it, as I and mike will explain to you...

elf
"do not mess in the affairs of dragons!
for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!"
- Draconous Cerulean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Onward Bob" <onwardbob@roadrunner.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?


Sorry, but it's there/here, on XP as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@roadrunner.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?


since pin to start menu is a windows vista and 7 only item I see a bit of a problem here as well!

thus Farfar's statement

elf
"do not mess in the affairs of dragons!
for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!"
- Draconous Cerulean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?


I also use XP.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?


She's using XP, not Vista or Windows7.
Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 23:15
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?


Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to do, but I don't know why
you're going through so many steps. If you want to add a program to the
start menu, just go to the program, press the applications key, and choose
the "pin to start menu" command.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:21 PM
Subject: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?


Hi,
Somebody wrote:


Hello there;

Someone was asking how to add item to the start menu?

Are we asking for windows XP?

I wasn't sure about that. If using Windows 7, the previous directions
about pinning items to the Start Menu are correct. If we're talking about
XP, the procedure is almost as simple.
1. Find the program that you want to add to the Start Menu.
2. Press the Application key or Shift-f10, then arrow down to Copy and
press Enter.
3. Go to the Start button and use the application key again. Arrow down
to Explore All Users and press Enter.
4. The Start Menu tree view will be open in Windows Explorer. Press Tab
once, then ctrl+v.
5. Press Alt+F4 to close Windows Explorer.
6. Open the Start menu as you normally do and you should find the new
entry.

Tom



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Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

no I don't ... list rules won't let me answer your snydeness in a fitting manor !
I know what I am talking about, and in a prior message I showed you the bloody difference,

those using "classic view" for there start menu don't get that option you...

stuff it in your pipe and smoke it
the elf
I'll try to be NICER!
If you, will try to be SMARTER!

the elf----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


Then you have 5 screwed up versions of XP. Read directly from Microsoft.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279767
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


because that does not "normally exist in windows XP, I have five machines here each with its own version of XP on it and none of them have that!

elf
"do not mess in the affairs of dragons!
for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!"
- Draconous Cerulean

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


Again, not sure why you're doing so many steps for such a simple operation. I know some folks like to take the scenic rout when they travel, but there's nothing to see here. Just go to the item you want to add, press applications, and use the pin to start menu command. done.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


Hi All,

Below is a different way to use the applications / context menu to add items
to the start menu if you are running XP.

1. Open Documents & Settings in Local Disc C.
2. Open your name folder and press the letter " S " until you land on "
Start Menu ."
3. Press the applications / context menu key.
4. Arrow up or down until you get to " Create Shortcut " and press enter.
5. Now, you have a Start Menu shortcut at the bottom of your list. Cut this
shortcut and paste it into the Send To folder. If it reads "Shortcut to
Start Menu ", highlight it, press the F2 key to edit it, and delete shortcut
to, so it reads Start Menu only, and press enter to save the change. Now,
cut this and paste it into the Send To folder.
Now, if there is a icon on your desktop or a program you want to have in
your
Start Menu, just highlight it, press the applications / context menu key,
arrow to Send To and press enter or press the letter " N " for the Send To
folder and press enter, Now, arrow up or down to the Start Menu selection
or press the letter " S " until you have the Start Menu selection
highlighted, then press enter. You now have this program / Icon in your
Start Menu.
With a new addition to the Start Menu another thing to do is make sure
everything is in order. You do this by pressing the Windows key to open the
Start Menu, pressing the applications / context menu key, arrowing up to "
Sort By Name ", and pressing enter.

Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Scrimenti
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?


I also use XP.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?


> She's using XP, not Vista or Windows7.
> Dave Carlson
> From my Dell Latitude 630.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 23:15
> Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be
out?
>
>
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to do, but I don't
know
why
> you're going through so many steps. If you want to add a program to
the
> start menu, just go to the program, press the applications key, and
choose
> the "pin to start menu" command.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@gmail.com>
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:21 PM
> Subject: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be out?
>
>
>> Hi,
>> Somebody wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello there;
>>>
>>> Someone was asking how to add item to the start menu?
>>>
>>> Are we asking for windows XP?
>>
>>
>> I wasn't sure about that. If using Windows 7, the previous
directions
>> about pinning items to the Start Menu are correct. If we're
talking
>> about
>> XP, the procedure is almost as simple.
>> 1. Find the program that you want to add to the Start Menu.
>> 2. Press the Application key or Shift-f10, then arrow down to Copy
and
>> press Enter.
>> 3. Go to the Start button and use the application key again. Arrow
down
>> to Explore All Users and press Enter.
>> 4. The Start Menu tree view will be open in Windows Explorer. Press
Tab
>> once, then ctrl+v.
>> 5. Press Alt+F4 to close Windows Explorer.
>> 6. Open the Start menu as you normally do and you should find the
new
>> entry.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

nonono, I was on the file... and I tried after receiving your message to which this is the reply

I also tried your method after navigating to the exact file in the program files folder and sitting on the jfw.exe file and still got exactly what you see below! from both locations, the jaws 11 menu/jaws shortcut in the classic start menu and the jfw.exe file in program files\freedom scientific\jaws\jaws11\jfw.exe

from the applications menu:
Open
Run as...
Copy Path
Scan with Microsoft Security Essentials...
WinRAR
WinZip
Send To
Cut
Copy
Create Shortcut
Delete
Rename
Properties

from the file menu:
Open
Run as...
Copy Path
Scan with Microsoft Security Essentials...
WinRAR
WinZip
Send To
New
Create Shortcut
Delete
Rename
Properties
Close

I think, as I said before, that the difference may be in the options provided along side the view used for the start menu!

in fact... I know it is due to that very difference, since I went and changed back to the standard XP menu and got this when I found jaws 11 in the first menu and hit the applications key on it:
Open
Run as...
Copy Path
Scan with Microsoft Security Essentials...
WinRAR
WinZip
Pin to Start menu
Send To
Copy
Remove from This List
Rename
Properties

so strangeness resolved if you want the automated option and the *gruff* new start menu that most of us avoided like the plague, then switch to the "start menu" option, if you don't mind fixing it for yourself like we have shown how to out here, then stick with your "classic view" menu's

nuff said
inthaneelf
"do not mess in the affairs of dragons!
for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!"
- Draconous Cerulean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


I decided to respond on-list because I know this is something others are interested in, and might be making the same mistake. The problem is that you're not on a file, you're on a folder. That's why you have the "explore" item in the context menu. You need to be on the actual jfw.exe file. on my system, the full path is:
C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\11.0\jfw.exe
Obviously, I have Jaws 11. So when you get to the Jaws folder, don't press applications. Press enter. Then go to whatever number version you have and press enter. You'll find the jfw.exe file in there. Now you can press applications, and find "pin to start menu".
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


Hi Dave,

Following your steps this is what is in my context menu;Open
Explore
Delete
Rename
Sort by Name
Properties

If you have a fix for this, would you please email me off list, since this
is no longer a Jaws issue? Thank you very much for giving me a heads up on
this potential problem. Take care.
Mike




----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Scrimenti
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


Strange. I'm running XP, and I have that option in the context menu. For
example, go to JFW.exe in the freedom scientific folder in the programs
folder. Hit the applications key. The 1st item should be "open". Down
arrow
and the next option is "run as". Down arrow once more and the 3rd item is
"pin to start menu".
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way


> Hi Dave,
>
> In XP there is not a, pin to start menu, option in the context menu.
At
> least I have never seen that option on my computers. Also, not
everybody
> has a, start menu, option in their, Send To, folder. At least, I
didn't
&
> had to add it. Take care.
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Scrimenti
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way
>
>
> Again, not sure why you're doing so many steps for such a simple
> operation.
> I know some folks like to take the scenic rout when they travel, but
> there's
> nothing to see here. Just go to the item you want to add, press
> applications, and use the pin to start menu command. done.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... another way
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Below is a different way to use the applications / context menu to
add
> > items
> > to the start menu if you are running XP.
> >
> > 1. Open Documents & Settings in Local Disc C.
> > 2. Open your name folder and press the letter " S " until you land
on
"
> > Start Menu ."
> > 3. Press the applications / context menu key.
> > 4. Arrow up or down until you get to " Create Shortcut " and press
> enter.
> > 5. Now, you have a Start Menu shortcut at the bottom of your list.
Cut
> > this
> > shortcut and paste it into the Send To folder. If it reads
"Shortcut
> to
> > Start Menu ", highlight it, press the F2 key to edit it, and delete
> > shortcut
> > to, so it reads Start Menu only, and press enter to save the
change.
> Now,
> > cut this and paste it into the Send To folder.
> > Now, if there is a icon on your desktop or a program you want to
have
> in
> > your
> > Start Menu, just highlight it, press the applications / context
menu
> key,
> > arrow to Send To and press enter or press the letter " N " for the
Send
> To
> > folder and press enter, Now, arrow up or down to the Start Menu
> > selection
> > or press the letter " S " until you have the Start Menu selection
> > highlighted, then press enter. You now have this program / Icon in
> your
> > Start Menu.
> > With a new addition to the Start Menu another thing to do is make
sure
> > everything is in order. You do this by pressing the Windows key to
> open
> > the
> > Start Menu, pressing the applications / context menu key, arrowing
up
> to
> "
> > Sort By Name ", and pressing enter.
> >
> > Hope this helps. Take care.
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dave Scrimenti
> > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13
be
> out?
> >
> >
> > I also use XP.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13
be
> out?
> >
> >
> > > She's using XP, not Vista or Windows7.
> > > Dave Carlson
> > > From my Dell Latitude 630.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Scrimenti" <dscrimenti@comcast.net>
> > > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 23:15
> > > Subject: Re: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13
be
> > out?
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to do, but I don't
> know
> > why
> > > you're going through so many steps. If you want to add a program
to
> the
> > > start menu, just go to the program, press the applications key,
and
> > choose
> > > the "pin to start menu" command.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@gmail.com>
> > > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > Subject: Adding items to Start Menu... was When will JAWS 13 be
out?
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >> Somebody wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hello there;
> > >>>
> > >>> Someone was asking how to add item to the start menu?
> > >>>
> > >>> Are we asking for windows XP?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I wasn't sure about that. If using Windows 7, the previous
> directions
> > >> about pinning items to the Start Menu are correct. If we're
> talking
> > >> about
> > >> XP, the procedure is almost as simple.
> > >> 1. Find the program that you want to add to the Start Menu.
> > >> 2. Press the Application key or Shift-f10, then arrow down to
Copy
> > and
> > >> press Enter.
> > >> 3. Go to the Start button and use the application key again.
Arrow
> > down
> > >> to Explore All Users and press Enter.
> > >> 4. The Start Menu tree view will be open in Windows Explorer.
Press
> > Tab
> > >> once, then ctrl+v.
> > >> 5. Press Alt+F4 to close Windows Explorer.
> > >> 6. Open the Start menu as you normally do and you should find
the
> new
> > >> entry.
> > >>
> > >> Tom
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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