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Re: microsoft protective view

Sharon
 

I didn't see anything under trust center. Thoughts? Windows 7; Outlook 2010.
Sharon

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Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:23 AM
To: Jerry hathaway; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: microsoft protective view

You can go into options with alt+f, then t, and set it so that Outlook no
longer puts documents into protected view. it's maybe under trust center in
options.

I sometimes get attachments and when I open them they come up as
protective view. How can I change the view so I can have access to the
document. I am running Windows 7, jaws 15, and Microsoft 2010.
Any help will be appreciated.

Jerry
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Re: microsoft protective view

Ann Byrne
 

You can go into options with alt+f, then t, and set it so that Outlook no longer puts documents into protected view. it's maybe under trust center in options.

I sometimes get attachments and when I open them they come up as protective view. How can I change the view so I can have access to the document. I am running Windows 7, jaws 15, and Microsoft 2010. Any help will be appreciated.

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Re: microsoft protective view

Ann Byrne
 

With the document open, press alt+f, then i, then e.

I sometimes get attachments and when I open them they come up as protective view. How can I change the view so I can have access to the document. I am running Windows 7, jaws 15, and Microsoft 2010. Any help will be appreciated.

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Jaws and Zendesk

Paul Price
 

Hi all,

Does anyone know if Jaws works with Zendesk helpdesk software?

Thanks,


Regards,
Paul Price
Email and mSN Messenger:
pprice72@optusnet.com.au
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Finally a solution to Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi Everyone,

Thanks to all for the suggestions and ideas.

Debby's instructions contained the solution that finally worked for
me. Her reply is below in its entirety for those who would like to
read it.

However, let me say that I was only able to reach the format tab by
forwarding the message (with the attachment) to myself. The message
was, as Debby suspected, in rtf and so when I changed the format to
html I was able to shift tab to the attachment area and open the
attachment in the usual way.

Again, thanks everyone and especially Debby.

Kim

On 10/21/14, Debby Hill via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi All,

I think I might have the answer to this mystery. The message
might be in rich text format (RTF); and therefore, the attachment
is embedded within the message. In my archives, I found
information on two ways to handle this situation. The first one I
don't believe, I have tried, so I am not sure it will work. (I
did not have an email to play with at work today.) The second set
of instructions, I remember using and they work. I am sorry, but
I do not know who submitted these to the list. Hope this helps!
Here goes:

If an e-mail is formatted in Rich Text format, the attachments
are embedded
in the message and you are not able to navigate to the message
header to
access the attachment. You need to change the message format to
Plain Text
or HTML. Do the following for each message.



. Navigate to Format on the ribbon.

. Press Enter to open the format menu

. Tab until you hear "Format Group" by pressing the Tab
4 to 7
times.

. Use the up and down arrows to navigate the 3 button
choices. Find
Plain Text or HTML and press enter.

. You are put back in the message and now you can access
the
attachment in the header.

--------------------------


When you can't find an attachment that you know has been attached
to an
e-mail, most likely the problem is that the document is embedded
in the body
of the message. This happens when the message is created in Rich
Text Format
(RTF). JAWS is unable to find documents when they are attached
in this
manner. If you follow the below steps, you will be able to
access the
attachment.



1. Open the e-mail with the embedded attachment.

2. Use Control+f to forward the e-mail with the attachment.

3. Type your e-mail address in the To field and press
Enter.

4. Press and release the Alt key to activate the ribbon.

5. Use the Right and/or Left arrows key to navigate to the
Format Text
tab.

6. Press the Down arrow once to move to the Lower Ribbon.

7. Press the Tab key 5 times to get to the Format Group
Box.

8. Use the Up and Down arrows to navigate through the 3
buttons, HTML,
Plain Text and Rich Text. Note that JAWS announces that the Rich
Text
Format button is pressed. This confirms that the problem is that
the
attachment is embedded in the body of the message instead of
attached in the
header.

a. If you select HTML by pressing Enter when you are
focused on it,
you will be returned to your message and you can Tab through the
header and
find that the document is now attached in the traditional way and
JAWS can
now find it.

b. If you select Plain Text by pressing enter when you are
focused on
it, you might encounter a dialog box letting you know that some
features are
not supported and asked if you want to continue. Tab to continue
and press
Enter. You are returned to your message and you can Tab through
the header
and find that the document is now attached in the traditional way
and JAWS
can now find it.

9. Use the Alt+s command to send the message.

10. Once you receive the message you can use your Up or Down
arrows to
navigate to the new message, and press enter to open it.

11. Use Shift+Tab to move to the attachment field in the
header.

12. Use the Right arrow to navigate to the actual attachment
and press
Enter to open it.



NOTE: If you anticipate only needing to read this document only
this one
time, you do not need to actually send the message to yourself.
Skip adding
your e-mail address and just tab to the attachment and open it.

Have g good evening!

Debby


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To: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>, The Jaws for Windows
supportlist. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:47:27 -0400
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

I do not know why but I find that some attachments are where you
expect and the shift tab can take you there but then there is the
other ones that are embedded in the body of the email. I think
these are announced as graphics but don't remember for sure. You
have to go through and locate it and using right mouse click or
the application key and open it.
Again I do not know why they don't attach in the same way.
Tom Bisset
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: October 20, 2014 1:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

To clarify Kimber's situation, in case someone sees a solution
after getting more specifics, I've been corresponding off-list
with her. When she shift-tabs, she goes right into the subject
line. So, even though JAWS verbalizes "attachments" at the list
level, it isn't finding the attachments field at all, never mind
the attachments themselves.

Based on a long-ago post by Ed Marquette, I suggested searching
for embedded objects with control-shift-o. However, JAWS found no
objects. Ed's method, as I understood it, would convert the
message to text and place the attachment where it belongs.

I can only think something in her organization's network is
blocking JAWS from finding attachments, even though it does
detect them.

Based on this, I hope someone has some more ideas, ideally not
involving third-parties.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Harry Spencer via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:00 PM
To: 'Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

The problem only happens to me when my daughter sends an
attachment from her Mac. Harry



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 9:55 AM
To: j Bron; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Most of the time I simply tab over from the subject line. The
first thing you should see is Message. Cursor over and you hit
the first attachment.
However, I have a colleague like the one you describe above. I
had to hunt around for his attachments using the JAWS cursor. As
I recall, I went to the bottom of the message and started looking
from there, but there's no quick and easy way to do it. Wish I
knew what makes his messages different.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j
Bron via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:46 PM
To: 'Kimber Gardner'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.';
'Adrian Spratt'
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Kim, I agree with Adrian. I also press the right arrow, arrow up
to open, press enter and I have the attachment. Judith

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Kimber Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:09 PM
To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Thanks for replying, Adrian. But when I shift tab in this
instance, rather than taking me to the attachment area, my cursor
goes to the subject line.
If I continue to shift tab I cycle through from, to, sent and the
body of the message itself. I never reach that area where I
expect the attachment is hiding. I can see that there is an
attachment because in the message list jaws says attachment, and
because my colleague tells me he has sent one.

It's a mystery that, I suspect, has something to do with how the
sender attaches the attachment.

Kim

On 10/20/14, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Kimber, when I go to an attachment with Outlook 2010, I do one
step
differently. Instead of pressing alt after shift-tab, I
right-arrow.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Kimber
Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Hi All,

In my office we use Outlook 2010 as our email client. Sometimes
when
colleagues send me attachments I can't get jaws to focus on the
attachment so I can act on it to either save or open or
whatever. It
seems the cursor simply doesn't recognize that there's an
attachment
present.

Normally, when everything is working, I can open the message
then
shift tab to the attachment area, press alt and be placed in the
attachment tab. In the scenario described above, it seems there
isn't
even an attachment tab to go to.

Can anyone tell me what's going on?

Thanks,
Kim

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Re: microsoft protective view

Feliciano G
 

Once you open the document, go to the file menu then arrow down to the Infotab then press enter then tab to enable editing then hit enter.

Regards, Feliciano

Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone

Sent from the Super-iPhone

On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:00 PM, Jerry hathaway via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I sometimes get attachments and when I open them they come up as protective view. How can I change the view so I can have access to the document. I am running Windows 7, jaws 15, and Microsoft 2010. Any help will be appreciated.

Jerry
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microsoft protective view

Jerry hathaway
 

I sometimes get attachments and when I open them they come up as protective view. How can I change the view so I can have access to the document. I am running Windows 7, jaws 15, and Microsoft 2010. Any help will be appreciated.

Jerry
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questionaire

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I'm trying to fill out these options on this game I found on facebook, can
someone see if they can select an option. No need to go and answer all
seven questions, just try the first one.

There are no radio buttons.

http://survzilla.com/survey/2202919/Which-of-The-Seven-Deadly-Sins-Controls-
Your-Life.html?start=1



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Re: Looking for blind programmers that program in SQL

Ron Barton <ron.barton@...>
 

Soronel,



RB
Are you an accomplished SQL programmer? What would be your suggestion for me to learn C# for visual studio?

-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir [mailto:soronel.haetir@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:00 PM
To: Ron Barton; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Looking for blind programmers that program in SQL

My experience trying various MS courses is that they are not particularly blind friendly. The text is fine but trying to do the exercises was pretty much a futile effort.

As for SQL I have found that it is generally easier to use command line tools anyway so there really aren't a lot of accessibility issues (I tended to prefer the command line tools even when I could see).

On 10/21/14, Ron Barton via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
I am a JAWS user that has programmed in COBOL, and CICAS for over 28
years but now I am looking at programming in SQL to support my
bicycling club's web site. So I would like to find another blind
programmer that is already programming in SQL so that I can learn C#,
and any other tips on coding in SQL. I know Microsoft offers classes
for visual studio but are they geared for anyone that is visually impaired?

Your help would be greatly appreciated!

RB




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Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

After the file is opened, try going to the edit menu and going down to Copy File to Clipboard. If that works, you might be able to paste it into Word and read it that way. Just a hopeful thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: T. Civitello via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:16 AM
To: Bill White ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Bill, had high hopes for this solution but it didn't work. I made the
changes and restarted Adobe VI and opened the Yamaha manual I was trying to
read but it still wouldn't read it. It processes the pages but they are
blank I rechecked the settings and tried again. Still no go. It still says
"secured, read only" after it processes the pages. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:42 AM
To: Jim L ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Hi, Jim. Try this:
To Make Adobe XI Accessible:




1. Go into preferences with control-k. JAWS lands on an item in a tree view.

If you have been here before, it will be the item you last opened. Arrow

down to Security Enhanced. Note that this is the item below "Security."

Then uncheck these two options:

Enable Protected Mode at startup

Enable Enhanced Security.

Note. When making changes in the Security Enhanced section, you will be told

that Adobe needs to be restarted, but you can wait to finish the other

changes first.



2. Launch the Edit menu, scroll down to the Accessibility submenu and open

it. Scroll down to the Set-up Assistant and press enter. The Set-Up

Assistant has five screens, but the only change you have to make is on the

last, screen 5 of 5. Go through all the screens, pressing spacebar on "Next"

in each instance, until you reach the fifth and final screen. Here, tab to

the check box labeled "Open PDF documents in the browser" and make sure it

is unchecked. It may be checked by default. Then tab to the Okay button.



Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:05 PM
Subject: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws


Heya folks,

All of a sudden again I cannot view secured adobe pdf files with my Jaws 15.
I use to be able to read them and am sure it was an option in adobe
reader/preferences that I need to alter or change.
Jaws keeps saying blank blank

Can anyone help me please?

Regards,

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Re: Windows, Office and PowerShell documentation recommendations?

Jason White
 

Johna Lynn Nordin <nordinjohnal@gmail.com> wrote:
Which version of windows and Microsoft office products are you using?
Currently it's Windows 7, Microsoft Office 2007 and JAWS 15.


Re: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Jim L
 

Mmm tried this but doesn't work with embedded files sent from a Mac

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Debby Hill via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2014 8:55 AM
To: Bissett, Tom; The Jaws for Windows support list.;
Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Hi All,

I think I might have the answer to this mystery. The message might be in
rich text format (RTF); and therefore, the attachment is embedded within the
message. In my archives, I found information on two ways to handle this
situation. The first one I don't believe, I have tried, so I am not sure it
will work. (I did not have an email to play with at work today.) The second
set of instructions, I remember using and they work. I am sorry, but I do
not know who submitted these to the list. Hope this helps!
Here goes:

If an e-mail is formatted in Rich Text format, the attachments are embedded
in the message and you are not able to navigate to the message header to
access the attachment. You need to change the message format to Plain Text
or HTML. Do the following for each message.



. Navigate to Format on the ribbon.

. Press Enter to open the format menu

. Tab until you hear "Format Group" by pressing the Tab
4 to 7
times.

. Use the up and down arrows to navigate the 3 button
choices. Find
Plain Text or HTML and press enter.

. You are put back in the message and now you can access
the
attachment in the header.

--------------------------


When you can't find an attachment that you know has been attached to an
e-mail, most likely the problem is that the document is embedded in the body
of the message. This happens when the message is created in Rich Text
Format (RTF). JAWS is unable to find documents when they are attached in
this manner. If you follow the below steps, you will be able to access the
attachment.



1. Open the e-mail with the embedded attachment.

2. Use Control+f to forward the e-mail with the attachment.

3. Type your e-mail address in the To field and press
Enter.

4. Press and release the Alt key to activate the ribbon.

5. Use the Right and/or Left arrows key to navigate to the
Format Text
tab.

6. Press the Down arrow once to move to the Lower Ribbon.

7. Press the Tab key 5 times to get to the Format Group
Box.

8. Use the Up and Down arrows to navigate through the 3
buttons, HTML,
Plain Text and Rich Text. Note that JAWS announces that the Rich Text
Format button is pressed. This confirms that the problem is that the
attachment is embedded in the body of the message instead of attached in the
header.

a. If you select HTML by pressing Enter when you are
focused on it,
you will be returned to your message and you can Tab through the header and
find that the document is now attached in the traditional way and JAWS can
now find it.

b. If you select Plain Text by pressing enter when you are
focused on
it, you might encounter a dialog box letting you know that some features are
not supported and asked if you want to continue. Tab to continue and press
Enter. You are returned to your message and you can Tab through the header
and find that the document is now attached in the traditional way and JAWS
can now find it.

9. Use the Alt+s command to send the message.

10. Once you receive the message you can use your Up or Down
arrows to
navigate to the new message, and press enter to open it.

11. Use Shift+Tab to move to the attachment field in the
header.

12. Use the Right arrow to navigate to the actual attachment
and press
Enter to open it.



NOTE: If you anticipate only needing to read this document only this one
time, you do not need to actually send the message to yourself.
Skip adding
your e-mail address and just tab to the attachment and open it.

Have g good evening!

Debby


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From: "Bissett, Tom via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>, The Jaws for Windows
supportlist. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Date sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:47:27
-0400
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

I do not know why but I find that some attachments are where you expect and
the shift tab can take you there but then there is the other ones that are
embedded in the body of the email. I think these are announced as graphics
but don't remember for sure. You have to go through and locate it and using
right mouse click or the application key and open it.
Again I do not know why they don't attach in the same way.
Tom Bisset
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: October 20, 2014 1:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

To clarify Kimber's situation, in case someone sees a solution after getting
more specifics, I've been corresponding off-list with her. When she
shift-tabs, she goes right into the subject line. So, even though JAWS
verbalizes "attachments" at the list level, it isn't finding the attachments
field at all, never mind the attachments themselves.

Based on a long-ago post by Ed Marquette, I suggested searching for embedded
objects with control-shift-o. However, JAWS found no objects. Ed's method,
as I understood it, would convert the message to text and place the
attachment where it belongs.

I can only think something in her organization's network is blocking JAWS
from finding attachments, even though it does detect them.

Based on this, I hope someone has some more ideas, ideally not involving
third-parties.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harry Spencer
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:00 PM
To: 'Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

The problem only happens to me when my daughter sends an attachment from her
Mac. Harry



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Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 9:55 AM
To: j Bron; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Most of the time I simply tab over from the subject line. The
first thing you should see is Message. Cursor over and you hit
the first attachment.
However, I have a colleague like the one you describe above. I
had to hunt around for his attachments using the JAWS cursor. As
I recall, I went to the bottom of the message and started looking
from there, but there's no quick and easy way to do it. Wish I
knew what makes his messages different.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j
Bron via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:46 PM
To: 'Kimber Gardner'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.';
'Adrian Spratt'
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Kim, I agree with Adrian. I also press the right arrow, arrow up
to open, press enter and I have the attachment. Judith

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Kimber Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:09 PM
To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Thanks for replying, Adrian. But when I shift tab in this
instance, rather than taking me to the attachment area, my cursor
goes to the subject line.
If I continue to shift tab I cycle through from, to, sent and the
body of the message itself. I never reach that area where I
expect the attachment is hiding. I can see that there is an
attachment because in the message list jaws says attachment, and
because my colleague tells me he has sent one.

It's a mystery that, I suspect, has something to do with how the
sender attaches the attachment.

Kim

On 10/20/14, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Kimber, when I go to an attachment with Outlook 2010, I do one
step
differently. Instead of pressing alt after shift-tab, I
right-arrow.

-----Original Message-----
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Kimber
Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Hi All,

In my office we use Outlook 2010 as our email client. Sometimes
when
colleagues send me attachments I can't get jaws to focus on the
attachment so I can act on it to either save or open or
whatever. It
seems the cursor simply doesn't recognize that there's an
attachment
present.

Normally, when everything is working, I can open the message
then
shift tab to the attachment area, press alt and be placed in the
attachment tab. In the scenario described above, it seems there
isn't
even an attachment tab to go to.

Can anyone tell me what's going on?

Thanks,
Kim

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Re: Looking for blind programmers that program in SQL

Soronel Haetir
 

My experience trying various MS courses is that they are not
particularly blind friendly. The text is fine but trying to do the
exercises was pretty much a futile effort.

As for SQL I have found that it is generally easier to use command
line tools anyway so there really aren't a lot of accessibility issues
(I tended to prefer the command line tools even when I could see).

On 10/21/14, Ron Barton via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
I am a JAWS user that has programmed in COBOL, and CICAS for over 28 years
but now I am looking at programming in SQL to support my bicycling club's
web site. So I would like to find another blind programmer that is already
programming in SQL so that I can learn C#, and any other tips on coding in
SQL. I know Microsoft offers classes for visual studio but are they geared
for anyone that is visually impaired?

Your help would be greatly appreciated!

RB




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Re: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Debby Hill
 

Hi All,

I think I might have the answer to this mystery. The message might be in rich text format (RTF); and therefore, the attachment is embedded within the message. In my archives, I found information on two ways to handle this situation. The first one I don't believe, I have tried, so I am not sure it will work. (I did not have an email to play with at work today.) The second set of instructions, I remember using and they work. I am sorry, but I do not know who submitted these to the list. Hope this helps! Here goes:

If an e-mail is formatted in Rich Text format, the attachments are embedded
in the message and you are not able to navigate to the message header to
access the attachment. You need to change the message format to Plain Text
or HTML. Do the following for each message.



. Navigate to Format on the ribbon.

. Press Enter to open the format menu

. Tab until you hear "Format Group" by pressing the Tab 4 to 7
times.

. Use the up and down arrows to navigate the 3 button choices. Find
Plain Text or HTML and press enter.

. You are put back in the message and now you can access the
attachment in the header.

--------------------------


When you can't find an attachment that you know has been attached to an
e-mail, most likely the problem is that the document is embedded in the body
of the message. This happens when the message is created in Rich Text Format
(RTF). JAWS is unable to find documents when they are attached in this
manner. If you follow the below steps, you will be able to access the
attachment.



1. Open the e-mail with the embedded attachment.

2. Use Control+f to forward the e-mail with the attachment.

3. Type your e-mail address in the To field and press Enter.

4. Press and release the Alt key to activate the ribbon.

5. Use the Right and/or Left arrows key to navigate to the Format Text
tab.

6. Press the Down arrow once to move to the Lower Ribbon.

7. Press the Tab key 5 times to get to the Format Group Box.

8. Use the Up and Down arrows to navigate through the 3 buttons, HTML,
Plain Text and Rich Text. Note that JAWS announces that the Rich Text
Format button is pressed. This confirms that the problem is that the
attachment is embedded in the body of the message instead of attached in the
header.

a. If you select HTML by pressing Enter when you are focused on it,
you will be returned to your message and you can Tab through the header and
find that the document is now attached in the traditional way and JAWS can
now find it.

b. If you select Plain Text by pressing enter when you are focused on
it, you might encounter a dialog box letting you know that some features are
not supported and asked if you want to continue. Tab to continue and press
Enter. You are returned to your message and you can Tab through the header
and find that the document is now attached in the traditional way and JAWS
can now find it.

9. Use the Alt+s command to send the message.

10. Once you receive the message you can use your Up or Down arrows to
navigate to the new message, and press enter to open it.

11. Use Shift+Tab to move to the attachment field in the header.

12. Use the Right arrow to navigate to the actual attachment and press
Enter to open it.



NOTE: If you anticipate only needing to read this document only this one
time, you do not need to actually send the message to yourself. Skip adding
your e-mail address and just tab to the attachment and open it.

Have g good evening!

Debby

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To: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>, The Jaws for Windows supportlist. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:47:27 -0400
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

I do not know why but I find that some attachments are where you expect and the shift tab can take you there but then there is the other ones that are embedded in the body of the email. I think these are announced as graphics but don't remember for sure. You have to go through and locate it and using right mouse click or the application key and open it.
Again I do not know why they don't attach in the same way.
Tom Bisset
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: October 20, 2014 1:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

To clarify Kimber's situation, in case someone sees a solution after getting more specifics, I've been corresponding off-list with her. When she shift-tabs, she goes right into the subject line. So, even though JAWS verbalizes "attachments" at the list level, it isn't finding the attachments field at all, never mind the attachments themselves.

Based on a long-ago post by Ed Marquette, I suggested searching for embedded objects with control-shift-o. However, JAWS found no objects. Ed's method, as I understood it, would convert the message to text and place the attachment where it belongs.

I can only think something in her organization's network is blocking JAWS from finding attachments, even though it does detect them.

Based on this, I hope someone has some more ideas, ideally not involving third-parties.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harry Spencer via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:00 PM
To: 'Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

The problem only happens to me when my daughter sends an attachment from her Mac. Harry



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 9:55 AM
To: j Bron; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Most of the time I simply tab over from the subject line. The first thing you should see is Message. Cursor over and you hit the first attachment.
However, I have a colleague like the one you describe above. I had to hunt around for his attachments using the JAWS cursor. As I recall, I went to the bottom of the message and started looking from there, but there's no quick and easy way to do it. Wish I knew what makes his messages different.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:46 PM
To: 'Kimber Gardner'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'; 'Adrian Spratt'
Subject: RE: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Kim, I agree with Adrian. I also press the right arrow, arrow up to open, press enter and I have the attachment. Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:09 PM
To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Thanks for replying, Adrian. But when I shift tab in this instance, rather than taking me to the attachment area, my cursor goes to the subject line.
If I continue to shift tab I cycle through from, to, sent and the body of the message itself. I never reach that area where I expect the attachment is hiding. I can see that there is an attachment because in the message list jaws says attachment, and because my colleague tells me he has sent one.

It's a mystery that, I suspect, has something to do with how the sender attaches the attachment.

Kim

On 10/20/14, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Kimber, when I go to an attachment with Outlook 2010, I do one step
differently. Instead of pressing alt after shift-tab, I right-arrow.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Sometimes I can't get to an attachment in outlook

Hi All,

In my office we use Outlook 2010 as our email client. Sometimes when
colleagues send me attachments I can't get jaws to focus on the
attachment so I can act on it to either save or open or whatever. It
seems the cursor simply doesn't recognize that there's an attachment
present.

Normally, when everything is working, I can open the message then
shift tab to the attachment area, press alt and be placed in the
attachment tab. In the scenario described above, it seems there isn't
even an attachment tab to go to.

Can anyone tell me what's going on?

Thanks,
Kim

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Re: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

Michael Mote
 

Tom, using your current version of JAWS, your best bet is to perform an OCR
of your screen, when you have an unreadable PDF in focus. To do this, you
will need to press JAWS Key plus the space bar to activate the layer menu.
JAWS should make an audible sound indicating that you've done this
successfully. Then press the letter O. JAWS should announce OCR. Then
press S for screen. You can also press W for window, if the screen option
does not give you what you want.

Should you be interested, JAWS 16 has a feature that will allow you to scan
a document using the above method. The only difference is instead of
pressing S for Screen, you would press D for document. JAWS 16 is only
available as a Beta currently, but it's supposed to be released as a full
running update at the end of this month. Not sure if that will happen or
not. I hope this information helps you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:41 PM
To: 'Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

How exactly is this done?

I use Jaws 14, and get scanned image PDF files all the time at work.

I suspect the OCR translation will not be perfect, but I suppose it's better
than nothing.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:53 PM
To: Lauren; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

Run OCR.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:51 PM
To: 'Diana Brent'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

What can you do about that?

Sincerely,

Lauren

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Diana Brent
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:58 PM
To: 'Michael Mote'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

I bet it's that the file is an image and your friends can read it but you
can't.

Diana

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via Jfw
Sent: October 21, 2014 12:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

Hi folks! I'm encountering an odd issue with JAWS andAdobe PDF files. I
prefer to read them using the web browser lay-out. The problem has recently
popped up using JARS 14.0.9002. When I load the file, JAWS says page view,
and then says blank blank blank when I press the arrow keys. A sighted
person can see that there is information on the screen, but JAWS is not
reporting that. Is there a setting using Adobe XI. Where I can change
this. Does the problem lie within the Internet Explorer settings?





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Re: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

Tom Behler
 

How exactly is this done?

I use Jaws 14, and get scanned image PDF files all the time at work.

I suspect the OCR translation will not be perfect, but I suppose it's better
than nothing.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:53 PM
To: Lauren; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

Run OCR.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:51 PM
To: 'Diana Brent'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

What can you do about that?

Sincerely,

Lauren

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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:58 PM
To: 'Michael Mote'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

I bet it's that the file is an image and your friends can read it but you
can't.

Diana

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via Jfw
Sent: October 21, 2014 12:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Problem with JAWS reading Adobe PDF files.

Hi folks! I'm encountering an odd issue with JAWS andAdobe PDF files. I
prefer to read them using the web browser lay-out. The problem has recently
popped up using JARS 14.0.9002. When I load the file, JAWS says page view,
and then says blank blank blank when I press the arrow keys. A sighted
person can see that there is information on the screen, but JAWS is not
reporting that. Is there a setting using Adobe XI. Where I can change
this. Does the problem lie within the Internet Explorer settings?





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Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Jim & Tom,

Do you have Openbook or Kurzweil installed? If so, after pressing enter to
open the PDF file, Press, control + P, to open the print dialogue, for
Openbook find the, Freedom Import Printer option, & press enter. This will
perform OCR on the file & OB will open & read it. I don't know what the
virtual printer is called for Kurzweil in the print dialogue but, it's
supposed to work the same way as OB.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim L via Jfw
To: 'T. Civitello' ; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws


Damn, didn't work for me either



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2014 11:16 PM
To: Bill White; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Bill, had high hopes for this solution but it didn't work. I made the
changes and restarted Adobe VI and opened the Yamaha manual I was trying to
read but it still wouldn't read it. It processes the pages but they are
blank I rechecked the settings and tried again. Still no go. It still says
"secured, read only" after it processes the pages. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:42 AM
To: Jim L ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Hi, Jim. Try this:
To Make Adobe XI Accessible:




1. Go into preferences with control-k. JAWS lands on an item in a tree view.

If you have been here before, it will be the item you last opened. Arrow

down to Security Enhanced. Note that this is the item below "Security."

Then uncheck these two options:

Enable Protected Mode at startup

Enable Enhanced Security.

Note. When making changes in the Security Enhanced section, you will be told

that Adobe needs to be restarted, but you can wait to finish the other

changes first.



2. Launch the Edit menu, scroll down to the Accessibility submenu and open

it. Scroll down to the Set-up Assistant and press enter. The Set-Up

Assistant has five screens, but the only change you have to make is on the

last, screen 5 of 5. Go through all the screens, pressing spacebar on "Next"

in each instance, until you reach the fifth and final screen. Here, tab to

the check box labeled "Open PDF documents in the browser" and make sure it

is unchecked. It may be checked by default. Then tab to the Okay button.



Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:05 PM
Subject: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws


Heya folks,

All of a sudden again I cannot view secured adobe pdf files with my Jaws
15.
I use to be able to read them and am sure it was an option in adobe
reader/preferences that I need to alter or change.
Jaws keeps saying blank blank

Can anyone help me please?

Regards,

Jim



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Looking for blind programmers that program in SQL

Ron Barton <ron.barton@...>
 

I am a JAWS user that has programmed in COBOL, and CICAS for over 28 years
but now I am looking at programming in SQL to support my bicycling club's
web site. So I would like to find another blind programmer that is already
programming in SQL so that I can learn C#, and any other tips on coding in
SQL. I know Microsoft offers classes for visual studio but are they geared
for anyone that is visually impaired?

Your help would be greatly appreciated!

RB




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Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Jim L
 

Damn, didn't work for me either

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2014 11:16 PM
To: Bill White; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Bill, had high hopes for this solution but it didn't work. I made the
changes and restarted Adobe VI and opened the Yamaha manual I was trying to
read but it still wouldn't read it. It processes the pages but they are
blank I rechecked the settings and tried again. Still no go. It still says
"secured, read only" after it processes the pages. Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:42 AM
To: Jim L ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Hi, Jim. Try this:
To Make Adobe XI Accessible:




1. Go into preferences with control-k. JAWS lands on an item in a tree view.

If you have been here before, it will be the item you last opened. Arrow

down to Security Enhanced. Note that this is the item below "Security."

Then uncheck these two options:

Enable Protected Mode at startup

Enable Enhanced Security.

Note. When making changes in the Security Enhanced section, you will be told

that Adobe needs to be restarted, but you can wait to finish the other

changes first.



2. Launch the Edit menu, scroll down to the Accessibility submenu and open

it. Scroll down to the Set-up Assistant and press enter. The Set-Up

Assistant has five screens, but the only change you have to make is on the

last, screen 5 of 5. Go through all the screens, pressing spacebar on "Next"

in each instance, until you reach the fifth and final screen. Here, tab to

the check box labeled "Open PDF documents in the browser" and make sure it

is unchecked. It may be checked by default. Then tab to the Okay button.



Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:05 PM
Subject: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws


Heya folks,

All of a sudden again I cannot view secured adobe pdf files with my Jaws
15.
I use to be able to read them and am sure it was an option in adobe
reader/preferences that I need to alter or change.
Jaws keeps saying blank blank

Can anyone help me please?

Regards,

Jim



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Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

david <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

hello;
the keystroke;
ctrl+k, can only be applied withinside the adobe program, ctrl+k, is not a
shortcut.
ctrl+k, is a keystroke for a particular menu function.

ctrl+k brings up the
prefferences menu.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:59 AM
To: j Bron; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

It's a keystroke within Acrobat Reader. I just go in via the menu.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:55 AM
To: 'Bill White'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'; 'Jim L'
Subject: RE: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

I just tried this but when I pressed control K I got nothing. I tried
pressing it in Outlook and on the desktop. Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:42 AM
To: Jim L; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws

Hi, Jim. Try this:
To Make Adobe XI Accessible:




1. Go into preferences with control-k. JAWS lands on an item in a tree view.

If you have been here before, it will be the item you last opened. Arrow

down to Security Enhanced. Note that this is the item below "Security."

Then uncheck these two options:

Enable Protected Mode at startup

Enable Enhanced Security.

Note. When making changes in the Security Enhanced section, you will be told

that Adobe needs to be restarted, but you can wait to finish the other

changes first.



2. Launch the Edit menu, scroll down to the Accessibility submenu and open

it. Scroll down to the Set-up Assistant and press enter. The Set-Up

Assistant has five screens, but the only change you have to make is on the

last, screen 5 of 5. Go through all the screens, pressing spacebar on "Next"

in each instance, until you reach the fifth and final screen. Here, tab to

the check box labeled "Open PDF documents in the browser" and make sure it

is unchecked. It may be checked by default. Then tab to the Okay button.



Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Jim L via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:05 PM
Subject: secured adobe pdf files and Jaws


Heya folks,

All of a sudden again I cannot view secured adobe pdf files with my Jaws
15.
I use to be able to read them and am sure it was an option in adobe
reader/preferences that I need to alter or change.
Jaws keeps saying blank blank

Can anyone help me please?

Regards,

Jim



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