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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

Yahoo is definitely not user friendly.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Martz via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 4:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Wow! I have no clue how you folks can stand to use GMail in Basic HTML
mode. It lacks even the most basic usability features, such as "mark all as
read". And organizing mail into folder hierarchies is truly painful in
Basic HTML mode.

The real difficulty with JAWS isn't GMail itself, it's the browser. Chrome
has serious issues with JAWS, and Internet Explorer has serious issues with
almost every Google web page, including GMail. Currently I'm trying to make
things work with Internet Explorer, viewing the GMail page in standard
mode. Aside from the fact that Internet Explorer keeps crashing, this is
working pretty good.
-Paul
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Re: Google and JAWS

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

Tom, that is a great tip. Thanks for posting it.


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...> wrote:

I see this behavior in IE as well. What I do is use insert+escape to
refresh the screen. It then reads the new page.
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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Tim Ford
 

I am using Windows Live Mail to my Gmail account, and I like it very much. WLM gives you the types of features lacking in Gmail HTML mode.

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Martz via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Wow! I have no clue how you folks can stand to use GMail in Basic HTML
mode. It lacks even the most basic usability features, such as "mark all as
read". And organizing mail into folder hierarchies is truly painful in
Basic HTML mode.

The real difficulty with JAWS isn't GMail itself, it's the browser. Chrome
has serious issues with JAWS, and Internet Explorer has serious issues with
almost every Google web page, including GMail. Currently I'm trying to make
things work with Internet Explorer, viewing the GMail page in standard
mode. Aside from the fact that Internet Explorer keeps crashing, this is
working pretty good.
-Paul
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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

I concur with Cy that Yahoo Mail's recent changes were not for the better.
-Paul


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Cy Selfridge via Jfw <jfw@...>
wrote:

Yahoo has become a genuine nightmare for screen readers. Their "new" format
sucks IMO.
Cy

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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

Wow! I have no clue how you folks can stand to use GMail in Basic HTML
mode. It lacks even the most basic usability features, such as "mark all as
read". And organizing mail into folder hierarchies is truly painful in
Basic HTML mode.

The real difficulty with JAWS isn't GMail itself, it's the browser. Chrome
has serious issues with JAWS, and Internet Explorer has serious issues with
almost every Google web page, including GMail. Currently I'm trying to make
things work with Internet Explorer, viewing the GMail page in standard
mode. Aside from the fact that Internet Explorer keeps crashing, this is
working pretty good.
-Paul
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Re: Google and JAWS

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

I see this behavior in IE as well. What I do is use insert+escape to refresh the screen. It then reads the new page.
Regards
Tom Bisset

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Paul Martz via Jfw
Sent: September 4, 2014 3:56 PM
To: Siju Samuel; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Google and JAWS

Well, as I mentioned in the first post on this thread, my experience has been that when I follow a link in Chrome, Chrome follows the link and displays text from the new page, but JAWS still thinks its on the old page.
I've opened an issue report with Freedom Scientific regarding this, but haven't been contacted by them yet.
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Re: Google and JAWS

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

Well, as I mentioned in the first post on this thread, my experience has
been that when I follow a link in Chrome, Chrome follows the link and
displays text from the new page, but JAWS still thinks its on the old page.
I've opened an issue report with Freedom Scientific regarding this, but
haven't been contacted by them yet.
-Paul
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Re: Stopping jaws from saying "new line"

Kimber Gardner
 

Thanks Adrian. That did work, but it also reminded me why I never used
it. When you uncheck the box for new line and paragraph marks, you can
no longer have the paragraph marks identified as you read. I'm not
sure why the two marks are lumped together as I find the paragraph
marks helpful where as the new line indication is simply annoying.

But thank you for the assistance. Perhaps I will email FS and see if
this option vcan be turned into two separate boxes.

Kimber

On 9/4/14, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:
Kimber,

Open JAWS quick settings, then type "new line." I got one result just now
that seems to answer your question. I don't have this problem, and I see the
checkbox that comes up is not checked.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Stopping jaws from saying "new line"

Hi All,

Does anyone know if it's possible to prevent jaws from saying "new
line" every time the end of a line of text is reached when arrowing
through a word document?

I know by doing a say all I can keep this from occurring. But I'm
editing a rather lengthy document and say all doesn't give me the
level of control I need while reading.

I don't really understand the usefulness of the "new line"
announcement, but I will be content if I can just stop it.

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Cy Selfridge
 

Hi,
Yahoo has become a genuine nightmare for screen readers. Their "new" format
sucks IMO.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marianne
Denning via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:36 AM
To: Lauren; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

When I signed up for my gmail account it was easier than yahoo but that may
have changed. If you have Outlook you can use it to access any account you
set up.

On 9/4/14, Lauren via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:
Hi,



I can't access my Verizon account on their web site and so am thinking
of signing up an alternative web-based mail account? Which one works
best using Jaws 14? I have Windows 8.1. Is there a difference between
gmail and others for ease of use?



Thanks.



Sincerely,



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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Marianne Denning
 

When I signed up for my gmail account it was easier than yahoo but
that may have changed. If you have Outlook you can use it to access
any account you set up.

On 9/4/14, Lauren via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:
Hi,



I can't access my Verizon account on their web site and so am thinking of
signing up an alternative web-based mail account? Which one works best
using
Jaws 14? I have Windows 8.1. Is there a difference between gmail and others
for ease of use?



Thanks.



Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: Google and JAWS

Siju Samuel <sijusamueltech@...>
 

Can any one share your thoughts on how Chrome browser works for
normal/common web pages ( like cnn.com or any other news sites etc).Thanks
in advance.

regards,
siju samuel


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Cristóbal via Jfw <jfw@...>
wrote:

Chrome and Jaws are a complete no-go.
Google services are getting better at working with Jaws. I use Sheets and
am
able to get around it well enough. Can't say I've played around with Docs.
The main thing is to either work with the virtual cursor or use the Jaws
cursor depending on the service you're working in.
Give:

http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/07/08/accessibility-in-google-apps-an-overview/
A read.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 3:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Google and JAWS

Hi all -- I'm new to this list. For context, I'm losing my eyesight slowly
to retinitis pigmentosa, and as a consequence, I've been slowly learning
JAWS with an end-goal of doing all my computing tasks with JAWS and
foregoing visual use altogether. All has been going well, except for
Google.

The main problem is the internet browser. Google Chrome and JAWS just don't
play well together. Well, okay, so I switch to Internet Explorer or
Firefox,
right? Unfortunately, those browsers don't play well with the web-based
Google services I use, such as Google Docs, GMail, and Google Code.

So my preference would be to continue to use Google Chrome, and find ways
to
make it work with JAWS. So far I haven't been having much luck.

One specific problem is that any time I follow a link to a new page, JAWS
doesn't realize the page has changed. The Say All command, or the Read Next
Line commands, just read text from the old page. Even though Google Chrome
is corrently displaying the new page (I have some eyesight left, so I can
see this).

The other problem is the two different formats that most Google web pages
use: Standard, and Basic HTML. Standard format definitely has problems with
JAWS. Basic HTML works better, but the interface is practically unusable.
Google has put very little effort into making their Basic HTML pages
usable.
And my pleas to Google to add some very basic features to Basic HTML have
fallen on deaf ears.

So, here I am, posting to the JFW list. Does anyone have any helpful hints
on using Google Chrome with JAWS? How about using Google standard format
web
pages with JAWS? Any help would be appreciated.
--
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Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...>
 

Are you serious--horsepower?


Sunny Day
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On 9/4/2014 10:43 AM, Cy Selfridge via Jfw wrote:
Hmm, strange indeed. Wonder if anyone else had JAWS read "H P" as
horsepower? (ROFLROFL)
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:30 AM
To: 'Adrian Spratt'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hi,
I have 2 HP laptops running W7 64 bit and JAWS 14.
So far as I can ascertain JAWS works well with both - but - MAGIC had a real
problem with the newer HP. For whatever reason one component in the newer HP
took strict exception to Magic 12. FS was extremely helpful and they
discovered a bug in Magic 12 which they corrected.
I would still stick with HP. I am told that the newer Dell laptops also work
very well and are significantly better than the older ones.
Cy
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Kadia,

Freedom Scientific won't state which hardware works best with JAWS. Based on
comments I've read on this list, I'd steer clear of Hewlett-Packard laptops
because they don't seem to.

You'll want to pack in as much RAM as the laptop can support.

Can I suggest that you're more likely to get a wide range of extremely
useful advice if you steer clear of politics? People on this list don't seem
to take kindly to non-tech opinions. We're here to help and be helped, not
to argue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kadia Hajaj
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@...
Subject: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hello,
My name is Kadia, an israeli blind woman, strongly opposed to the israeli
murderous regime .
My question is regarding buying a new laptop.
How do you decide which model to buy?
Do you get any specific recommendations from your Jaws dealers?
if so, what models, system requirements are you guided to buy?
If you wish to contact me directly, you can email to terrella1000@...

Thanks for your advice,
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Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Cy Selfridge
 

Hmm, strange indeed. Wonder if anyone else had JAWS read "H P" as
horsepower? (ROFLROFL)
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:30 AM
To: 'Adrian Spratt'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hi,
I have 2 HP laptops running W7 64 bit and JAWS 14.
So far as I can ascertain JAWS works well with both - but - MAGIC had a real
problem with the newer HP. For whatever reason one component in the newer HP
took strict exception to Magic 12. FS was extremely helpful and they
discovered a bug in Magic 12 which they corrected.
I would still stick with HP. I am told that the newer Dell laptops also work
very well and are significantly better than the older ones.
Cy
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Kadia,

Freedom Scientific won't state which hardware works best with JAWS. Based on
comments I've read on this list, I'd steer clear of Hewlett-Packard laptops
because they don't seem to.

You'll want to pack in as much RAM as the laptop can support.

Can I suggest that you're more likely to get a wide range of extremely
useful advice if you steer clear of politics? People on this list don't seem
to take kindly to non-tech opinions. We're here to help and be helped, not
to argue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kadia Hajaj
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@...
Subject: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hello,
My name is Kadia, an israeli blind woman, strongly opposed to the israeli
murderous regime .
My question is regarding buying a new laptop.
How do you decide which model to buy?
Do you get any specific recommendations from your Jaws dealers?
if so, what models, system requirements are you guided to buy?
If you wish to contact me directly, you can email to terrella1000@...

Thanks for your advice,
Regards,
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Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...>
 

All of my laptops have been Toshibas, with which I've been very pleased. JAWS works fine with them.


Sunny Day
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On 9/4/2014 4:18 AM, Ed Marquette via Jfw wrote:
I'm not sure the brand is as important as is the keyboard. I
think most brands today that don't mess up Windows and make it
somehow proprietary are likely to be fine, and I don't think there
is all that much customization of the operating system these days.
I've used Lenovo laptops since Lenovo took over from IBM. I used
IBM before that. I tried, and dumped, Toshiba. I'm glad to see
others have had success with HP. I didn't, but that was before
1996.
I've stuck with Lenovo both because that's my firm's standard and
because the machines work well with JAWS.
Watch out for the keyboard. My Lenovo Yoga, an ultrabook, not a
laptop, has the best keyboard I've ever used on a portable
computer, except for one thing. I cannot configure it to have an
applications key and two JAWS keys.
I have another Lenovo that doesn't have an Applications key (and
cannot be configured to have one), but it has two JAWS keys.
I use shift F-10 instead of the Applications key. It works, but
is nowhere as handy as is the applications key.
So, ideally, you should have an insert key, a capslock key, and an
applications key. If the laptop doesn't have, or cannot be
configured to have, these keys, I'd keep looking.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Stan
Bobbitt via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:42 AM
To: Melissa Stott; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

I've been using nothing but HP since 1999 and JAWS since 1998.
My current laptop is HP as well. I've had to stop some of the
automatic HP programs as someone else posted, but that's about it.
Everything works fine.

Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:00 PM
To: Lisa-Maree ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

I have HP Desktop, and works like a charm. I'm using Windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa-Maree via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 7:55 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hi,
I've got an Hp laptop, and windows 7, with jaws 15. It works
fine. I have stopped some of the automatic HP programs which ocme
with it from starting, but that's really all you have to do if you
have any conflicts.

Acer is another one where their programs can cause conflicts with
Jaws, but when I upgraded a laptop for a friend, I found turning
off some processes from starting worked fine. Asus ones will work
straight off.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:39 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Kadia,

Freedom Scientific won't state which hardware works best with
JAWS. Based on comments I've read on this list, I'd steer clear of
Hewlett-Packard laptops because they don't seem to.

You'll want to pack in as much RAM as the laptop can support.

Can I suggest that you're more likely to get a wide range of
extremely useful advice if you steer clear of politics? People on
this list don't seem to take kindly to non-tech opinions. We're
here to help and be helped, not to argue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Kadia Hajaj via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@...
Subject: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hello,
My name is Kadia, an israeli blind woman, strongly opposed to the
israeli murderous regime .
My question is regarding buying a new laptop.
How do you decide which model to buy?
Do you get any specific recommendations from your Jaws dealers?
if so, what models, system requirements are you guided to buy?
If you wish to contact me directly, you can email to
terrella1000@...

Thanks for your advice,
Regards,
Kadia


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Re: Annoying Change in Outlook Response

Cy Selfridge
 

Hi, I believe you could send a "thank you" message to Microbloat.
Ever so often some of the updates to the OS do really funny things to what
used to work bery well.
It is a Royal Pain IMO.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Annoying Change in Outlook Response

First, the preliminaries. I'm running Jaws 12 on this machine and Outlook
2007. I have the Outlook folder list shut off but I'm using the reading
pane.
About a month ago Outlook started reading things from the reading pane when
I get a new message. This was a change from prior response. Something
changed, and I'm not sure what setting got changed. Any ideas?


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Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Cy Selfridge
 

Hi,
I have 2 HP laptops running W7 64 bit and JAWS 14.
So far as I can ascertain JAWS works well with both - but - MAGIC had a real
problem with the newer HP. For whatever reason one component in the newer HP
took strict exception to Magic 12. FS was extremely helpful and they
discovered a bug in Magic 12 which they corrected.
I would still stick with HP. I am told that the newer Dell laptops also work
very well and are significantly better than the older ones.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Kadia,

Freedom Scientific won't state which hardware works best with JAWS. Based on
comments I've read on this list, I'd steer clear of Hewlett-Packard laptops
because they don't seem to.

You'll want to pack in as much RAM as the laptop can support.

Can I suggest that you're more likely to get a wide range of extremely
useful advice if you steer clear of politics? People on this list don't seem
to take kindly to non-tech opinions. We're here to help and be helped, not
to argue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kadia Hajaj
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@...
Subject: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hello,
My name is Kadia, an israeli blind woman, strongly opposed to the israeli
murderous regime .
My question is regarding buying a new laptop.
How do you decide which model to buy?
Do you get any specific recommendations from your Jaws dealers?
if so, what models, system requirements are you guided to buy?
If you wish to contact me directly, you can email to terrella1000@...

Thanks for your advice,
Regards,
Kadia


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Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

Mario
 

yes... I think.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Krugman via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "dennis" <dennisc67@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list."
<jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws


Is "Super" the same as Super antispy ware?
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: dennis
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:05 AM
To: Charles Krugman ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

super is very useable. i use both super and mb.
On 8/30/2014 3:54 AM, Charles Krugman via Jfw wrote:
Are there any comparable programs to Malware bytes that work with JAWS
15. Since Malware Bytes became inaccessible I haven't been using an
antimalware program and have relied on the paid version of AVG.
Chuck

-----Original Message----- From: Melissa Stott via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:30 PM
To: Lee Maschmeyer ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

The latest version of Malware bytes is not compatible with Jaws at this
time.

-----Original Message----- From: Lee Maschmeyer via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:17 PM
To: Tim Ford ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

Why inhibit software updates? They come out with new versions because the
old one can't deal with the newest threats. It's a very good idea to
install
all available updates as soon as they're released.
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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Feliciano G
 

Gmail is great. They allow you to choose basic HTML which is more accessible for screen reader users. It can be changed to this setting so when you log in you are ready to go.


Regards, Feliciano

Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone

On Sep 4, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Lauren via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:

Hi,



I can't access my Verizon account on their web site and so am thinking of
signing up an alternative web-based mail account? Which one works best using
Jaws 14? I have Windows 8.1. Is there a difference between gmail and others
for ease of use?



Thanks.



Sincerely,



Lauren



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