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Re: speech stops

Robert Hebert <roberthebert@...>
 

Sorry about the slight glitch in my last post to you. My keyboard sometimes
switches to French Canadian and after I returned it to U.S. English a bit of
junk got inserted into my message. First time for this one but then, with
speech, the unexpected often happens.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Hebert
via Jfw
Sent: August-03-14 3:43 PM
To: 'Barbara Corner'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: speech stops

Jaws is a huge program these days and requires a lot of processing
capacity--at least 4 gig of CPU memory and preferably 6 gig. Your netbook
may have sufficient processing capacity. Also, in many cases there is a
memory leak when running Jaws so you might try unloading Jaws and reloading
again, or even shutting your computer down entirely and rebooting. A

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Belso, do not leave your
computer on when you are not using it as some processes run even when not
using your computer if left on and memory leak may occur during this time.
As to whether or to leave a computer on between uses, opinion is divided.
Personally, unless I plan to use my computer within 2 or 3 hours, I always
turn it off. I have a working desktop that'S over 10 years old and this
windows 7 laptop is 5 years old. Finally, you may wish to try a much lighter
speech program such as NVDA. This program requires much less memory. It does
not have the functionality of Jaws but for emails and net serfing, it is
excellent. It is free. Simply google NVDA, click on their site then the
download link. It is well documented and easily learned and easy to use.
half Of Barbara Corner via Jfw
Sent: August-03-14 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: speech stops

When I am using my netbook with JAWS 14 speech stops and after a few
minutes it comes back and then stops again. Any ideas why this is
happening? It is very frustrating!
It happens with Office 2010, HJ Pad, notepad etc.

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Re: speech stops

Robert Hebert <roberthebert@...>
 

Jaws is a huge program these days and requires a lot of processing
capacity--at least 4 gig of CPU memory and preferably 6 gig. Your netbook
may have sufficient processing capacity. Also, in many cases there is a
memory leak when running Jaws so you might try unloading Jaws and reloading
again, or even shutting your computer down entirely and rebooting. A

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Belso, do not leave your
computer on when you are not using it as some processes run even when not
using your computer if left on and memory leak may occur during this time.
As to whether or to leave a computer on between uses, opinion is divided.
Personally, unless I plan to use my computer within 2 or 3 hours, I always
turn it off. I have a working desktop that'S over 10 years old and this
windows 7 laptop is 5 years old. Finally, you may wish to try a much lighter
speech program such as NVDA. This program requires much less memory. It does
not have the functionality of Jaws but for emails and net serfing, it is
excellent. It is free. Simply google NVDA, click on their site then the
download link. It is well documented and easily learned and easy to use.
half Of Barbara Corner via Jfw
Sent: August-03-14 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: speech stops

When I am using my netbook with JAWS 14 speech stops and after a few
minutes it comes back and then stops again. Any ideas why this is
happening? It is very frustrating!
It happens with Office 2010, HJ Pad, notepad etc.

Bar



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speech stops

Barbara Corner <bcorner@...>
 

When I am using my netbook with JAWS 14 speech stops and after a few
minutes it comes back and then stops again. Any ideas why this is
happening? It is very frustrating!
It happens with Office 2010, HJ Pad, notepad etc.

Bar


Re: Mouse Over: where to turn off?

Doris and Chris
 

And here do you turn mouseover off? using jaws 9 on a 2k box here.

thanks much.

DorisAt 04:32 PM 8/2/2014, you wrote:

Cy,

In my experience of mouseover, it very occasionally reveals more than one link in what JAWS identifies as a single link. But even in the few instances where mouseover has revealed a hidden link, I've never found it valuable. If anything, the time involved in locating the hidden link is annoying. Once JAWS identifies a mouseover situation and you press the control-insert- enter combo, JAWS verbalizes a number. You then have to press j to bring up the "jump to line" dialog followed by that number. Even then, JAWS usually announces there's nothing in that link. (I don't remember how this is verbalized.)

To hear how FS describes the mouseover function, open your browser, press JAWS key+1 for JAWS key describer mode, then press the mouseover key combo.

I'm writing from memory, so anyone who has used mouseover more recently should correct any details. But my bottom line is that I've never once benefited by using it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:10 PM
To: 'Bhavesh'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Mouse Over

While we are on this subject, tell me again what mouseOver is supposed to
gain one.
I believe I have it disabled as it was more trouble than it was worth.
Dy

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:50 PM
To: thomas williams; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Mouse Over

Press insert control enter.



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Re: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments

doug slotten
 

To read the comment by word in context, I believe you have to go to edit
comment mode. This can be reached by right clicking the comment and
selecting the correct option. Doug


JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi. An editor wants to use Word 2010's comments to send me her thoughts on a 300-page document. I've never used this feature before. She has sent me a short sample to see if JAWS can read the comments.

After reading a number of posts I saved on the subject from this list and the relevant section in CathyAnne Murtha's textbook, I cannot solve the following problems.

I know to bring up comments in context by pressing control+shift+apostrophe. With Windows key+semicolon, I can also create a text file consisting of all the comments. Here are the problems I've identified so far:

1. When reading a comment in context after pressing control+shift+apostrophe, I'd like to navigate it with the arrow keys. However, nothing happens. I can repeat the entire text to my heart's content, but not isolate words and phrases.

2. I can isolate words and phrases when I bring up all the comments in the Win key+semicolon text file. However, this is not ideal for two reasons. First, it will require me to do a lot of cross-referencing between the document's primary text and the comments page I've created. Second, after checking the JAWS text against a sighted person's reading of the text in the printed comments, I find there's additional text in the JAWS version. Additional text might be a smaller problem than less text, but it is distracting and makes me worry that the JAWS version might prove unreliable in other ways.

Here's a sample comment. Everything after the peculiar word "extrahat" appears in the JAWS version but not the print original:

Here's where a comment would go. My Word program identifies what words in the text this comment is about by coloring them and giving them a number. Extrahat the comments appear in two different places--one, in a list on the left hand sidey coloring them, and giving them a nu

3. All in all, for a JAWS user, this seems a terribly cumbersome process, especially for a 300-page document where there will be comments on nearly every page, as well as strike-through and other attributes. Am I just showing the anxiety of one new to a task? Is there a method that will work better for me and is equally convenient for the editor?

I hope I've made myself clear. Thanks especially to Ed Marquette and Jean Menzies for their posts on this topic.
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Re: Mouse Over

Adrian Spratt
 

Cy,

In my experience of mouseover, it very occasionally reveals more than one link in what JAWS identifies as a single link. But even in the few instances where mouseover has revealed a hidden link, I've never found it valuable. If anything, the time involved in locating the hidden link is annoying. Once JAWS identifies a mouseover situation and you press the control-insert- enter combo, JAWS verbalizes a number. You then have to press j to bring up the "jump to line" dialog followed by that number. Even then, JAWS usually announces there's nothing in that link. (I don't remember how this is verbalized.)

To hear how FS describes the mouseover function, open your browser, press JAWS key+1 for JAWS key describer mode, then press the mouseover key combo.

I'm writing from memory, so anyone who has used mouseover more recently should correct any details. But my bottom line is that I've never once benefited by using it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:10 PM
To: 'Bhavesh'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Mouse Over

While we are on this subject, tell me again what mouseOver is supposed to
gain one.
I believe I have it disabled as it was more trouble than it was worth.
Dy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bhavesh via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:50 PM
To: thomas williams; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Mouse Over

Press insert control enter.



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I am looking for the Mouse Over command, could someone please post?


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Re: Mouse Over

Cy Selfridge
 

While we are on this subject, tell me again what mouseOver is supposed to
gain one.
I believe I have it disabled as it was more trouble than it was worth.
Dy

-----Original Message-----
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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:50 PM
To: thomas williams; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Mouse Over

Press insert control enter.



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I am looking for the Mouse Over command, could someone please post?


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Re: Mouse Over

Bhavesh
 

Press insert control enter.



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Mouse Over

thomas williams
 

I am looking for the Mouse Over command, could someone please post?


Important: please read!

Stephanie Switzer
 

Hello everyone.
First of all let me point out that I am not a list admin. Second of
all if you don’t read this, subscribe to the link I will be posting,
or at least book mark/favorite it. It is not my fault as I refuse to
be a hand-holder, or your mother.  So please read this in it’s
entirety. As I’m including the link to the support of technologies
list that have nothing to do with jaws or freedom scientific here.
The list owner created the support list, so we could have discussions
about things not related to Jaws and/or freedom scientific. I’ve seen
a lot of discussions that have nothing to do with neither of those
things, so if you don’t mind would you please post all general tech
inquiries to the general support list only, or utilize Google? Mostly
because these things aren’t related to jaws/freedom scientific in any
way, and shouldn’t be here. Examples of this include, but are not
limited to: the discussion about smart phones, and the current
discussion about whether or not it is better for hacking purposes if a
computer is turned off, or is in hibernate. These types of discussions
should in fact, go on the general support list, not this one. Because
they have absolutely nothing to do with either jaws or freedom
scientific unless of course you plan to hack into someone’s computer
using jaws, and need to know how. In which case it shouldn’t be
discussed here any way because hacking into things is very much ill
eagle.  The only reason Smart phones should be discussed on this list
is if you’re trying to do something with yours or someone else’s and
Jaws or some other F. S. program is refusing to cooperate in some way.
If you don’t know how to use Google, and you would like too please
contact me privately. I wouldn’t mind showing you. Here is the link to
the general technologies list. Feel free to book mark/favorite this
link if you don’t want to subscribe right away.
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/support_lists.the-jdh.com
As for the beginning part, the one that said I’m not a hand-holder.
That’s kind of a joke, but kind of true at least for me.
Anyway, enjoy your general teching! The rest of the list members, and
maybe you will thank me later when that portion you have set aside for
your email regarding this list, or your m-box isn’t full of things
that do not relate to jaws/Freedom Scientific.
Also, if you would like to contact the list owner here is his email
address, but he’s out of town, so it might take him a while to
respond.
James@thejdh.com
The other reason why I wrote this out is for the people who don’t know
about the general technologies list. This wasn’t meant to be taken as
me being mean, or sarcastic, or whatever. 
If you've read this far, thank you! :)


Re: Sleep or Hibernate

James Malone
 

Then let the owner make this choice.
This can be cross posted, and can be helpful to all on both lists.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of emmanrusty---
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:20 AM
To: Kevin Hourigan; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate

This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned
by the same person who owns this list.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello People,
A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting
down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment
pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep
that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the
computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard?
Thank you all,
Cheers Kevin.
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Re: Sleep or Hibernate

James Malone
 

What?
I was just making a statement about general computers in relationship with
Jaws(smile).

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 10:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate

Please clarify. Has James appointed you co-moderator of this list? If so, I
missed it.

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:20 PM
To: Kevin Hourigan; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate

This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned
by the same person who owns this list.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello People,
A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting
down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment
pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep
that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the
computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard?
Thank you all,
Cheers Kevin.
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Re: Sleep or Hibernate

Adrian Spratt
 

Please clarify. Has James appointed you co-moderator of this list? If so, I missed it.

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Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:20 PM
To: Kevin Hourigan; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate

This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned by the same person who owns this list.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello People,
A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard?
Thank you all,
Cheers Kevin.
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Re: Sleep or Hibernate

Stephanie Switzer
 

This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned by the same person who owns this list.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello People,
A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard?
Thank you all,
Cheers Kevin.
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Re: Sleep or Hibernate

James Malone
 

Concerning the hackers, if you keep your virus and auntie malware up to
date, you shouldn't have any issues at all.

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 8:33 AM
To: 'Kevin Hourigan'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate

Hi Kevin,
I do not know about the hacking issue but I do know that when the computer
goes to "sleep" when it wakes back up many times things do not work quite
like they used to.
This is true with W7 64 bit, Office 2007 and JAWS 14.
Somehow Outlook does ot quite get it all together and you have to do a
restart anyway. (LOLLOLLOL) In earilier versions of JAWS with XP FS
suggested that you not let the computer go to sleep, just turn it off.
Cy

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Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:29 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Sleep or Hibernate

Hello People,
A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down
ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out
that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would
prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in
hibernate accomplish this safe guard?
Thank you all,
Cheers Kevin.
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Re: Sleep or Hibernate

Cy Selfridge
 

Hi Kevin,
I do not know about the hacking issue but I do know that when the computer
goes to "sleep" when it wakes back up many times things do not work quite
like they used to.
This is true with W7 64 bit, Office 2007 and JAWS 14.
Somehow Outlook does ot quite get it all together and you have to do a
restart anyway. (LOLLOLLOL)
In earilier versions of JAWS with XP FS suggested that you not let the
computer go to sleep, just turn it off.
Cy

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:29 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Sleep or Hibernate

Hello People,
A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down
ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out
that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would
prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in
hibernate accomplish this safe guard?
Thank you all,
Cheers Kevin.
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Sleep or Hibernate

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello People,
A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard?
Thank you all,
Cheers Kevin.
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Re: JAWS Scripts for Thunderbird

Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

You can try www.thunderbirdblind.com. If you struggle to find it, go
to www.blindtunes.net and on that main page you will find the link to
the scripts homepage.

On 01/08/2014, Bill White via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Where can I download the JAWS scripts for Thunderbird?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


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windows live mail

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Hi all

I have changed my internet provider and because of this I have also changed my email account, so I have in windows live mail a folder called demon which was my old provider and in there loads of folders with loads of emails in each.
so what I want to do is move each of the folders out of the demon folder but the only way I have found of doing this is for example the folder jaws I make a new folder called jaws 2 in my storage folder then go back to my demon folder go to my old jaws select all the mails then move them to the new jaws folder then back to the first jaws folder and delete it. now this seems such a long way of doing fings so is there another way.
I have windows 7 and jaws 12

well hope you can make sense of this Joe
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