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Re: color picking, making changes in Word 2013 & Windoes 8

doug slotten via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Control shift e toggles track changes on and off. Doug


color picking, making changes in Word 2013 & Windoes 8

Lauren via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Hi:



I have Windows 8, Jaws 14 and Word 2013. I have a file from a student and I
want to make changes and show him the changes.



What is the best way to do this? I tried changing the color of my inserted
text, but Jaws only says automatic for color and orange if I down arrow and
no other choices. I can't remember how to do make or track changes. Which is
best?







Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.

Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Agreed.

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:27 AM
Subject: RE: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.


Hi,
BIOS update is a sensitive suggestion, in that you might be risking ILM
activation (some of us have reported this critical problem to FS a few
months ago, particularly when it comes to UEFI updates). However, I think
it's more towards software setting that might be causing an issue.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Petro T.
Giannakopoulos via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 5:22 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.

Just a thought here. What about a BIOS update?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.


Hi Chris,
There are a number of variables to consider regarding this theory:
* Although Intel and AMD uses different microarchitecture (with same x86
ISA), even different microarchitecture and product families may create this
issue. For example, APU's (Accelerated Processing Unit) are designed as a
CPU-GPU hybrid, thus programs may or may not respond as quickly as before
(or after).
* If it is unique to JFW15 (not to an earlier version) and for 64-bit
Windows 8.1, chances are that something weird is going on in the startup
code after you log into Windows (this tells me that FS might be using a
newer update of VS2010/2012 to compile JFW).
* It might not be hardware at all - perhaps a group policy setting might
have changed things, startup scans and so on. If System Restore didn't help,
then we need to do something more advanced.
* To be sure on this theory (rather, a hypothesis, in my opinion), we need
people willing to test your scenario on different AMD CPU families such as
FX (Bulldozer/Piledriver), APU's and so on, as well as people using Intel
Core/Pentium/Celeron series (up to second batch of 4th generation Core
processors). If people running AMD CPU's can reproduce this issue, then it
is unique to the way AMD handles some stuff, otherwise it's a software
problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:11 AM
To: JAWS list
Subject: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.
Importance: High

OK, let me recap a bit here for everyone's reference.

I wrote the list about half a week ago somewhere around the 4th of the
month. I was having an issue whereby using Windows 8.1 Home Premium and all
the updates along with JAWS 15 Pro were producing a very weird issue. Even
though under the JAWS window>Options>Basics, I had it set to automaticly run
at the logon screen, as well as to run after logon for all users, and I had
the combo box set to always, I still found that JAWS refused to load after
logon. It worked fine as far as launching at the logon screen itself, but
once logged on, it wouldn't autostart.

Most of you all said you were not having this issue with Windows 8.1, and
had suggested I repair JFW. I did this to absolutely no avale. One member
wrote in suggesting it was something to do with the latest Internet Explorer
update, as once they installed that update, they began having the same
issue. I must say I found that incredibly hard to relate the two things to
one another. How could IE have anything to do with jfw not starting up. I
honestly still to this minute hold my opinion that for that person, it was
totally bad timing/coencidental. All of this however said, I don't rule it
out, but I do find it unlikely. I do! however, have a theory. I confess
that I've not gotten the chance to call FS quite yet about this. I plan to
do so this morning first thing when they open up. Basically though, here's
my theory. Again, this may seem kind of like the I E guess. It may sound
100% unrelated. Chances are, it probably isn't related in any respect, I
agree, but, I'm very much unwilling at this point to look over it, and rule
it out as not being possible. I am *not!* running an Intel Pentium
processor. I've got the laptop version of an AMD Athlon. Stupid as it may
sound, I have heard of weird things happenning with certain programs if you
install them on the wrong type of processor, or on one that isn't fully
supported. Though I totally! understand that JFW fully supports all the
major processors from Intel, AMD, to even Celeron, I'm curious if this might
be a bug within the AMD architecture and how it plays back into JFW in a
whole. If anyone's got Windows 8.1, and JAWS 15 with access to an Athlon
system, laptop or not, I'd be extremely curious to know if you have this
issue... specifically with jfw 15 in combination with Windows 8.1 64 bit.

Either way, I'll be calling FS here in just a bit, but I figured I'd throw
this out there as one final attempt for you guys to help me.

Thanks.

Chris.
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Re: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.

Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Huh?

Why something that extreme? Am I missing something here?

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.


Just a thought here. What about a BIOS update?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.


Hi Chris,
There are a number of variables to consider regarding this theory:
* Although Intel and AMD uses different microarchitecture (with same x86
ISA), even different microarchitecture and product families may create this
issue. For example, APU's (Accelerated Processing Unit) are designed as a
CPU-GPU hybrid, thus programs may or may not respond as quickly as before
(or after).
* If it is unique to JFW15 (not to an earlier version) and for 64-bit
Windows 8.1, chances are that something weird is going on in the startup
code after you log into Windows (this tells me that FS might be using a
newer update of VS2010/2012 to compile JFW).
* It might not be hardware at all - perhaps a group policy setting might
have changed things, startup scans and so on. If System Restore didn't help,
then we need to do something more advanced.
* To be sure on this theory (rather, a hypothesis, in my opinion), we need
people willing to test your scenario on different AMD CPU families such as
FX (Bulldozer/Piledriver), APU's and so on, as well as people using Intel
Core/Pentium/Celeron series (up to second batch of 4th generation Core
processors). If people running AMD CPU's can reproduce this issue, then it
is unique to the way AMD handles some stuff, otherwise it's a software
problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:11 AM
To: JAWS list
Subject: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.
Importance: High

OK, let me recap a bit here for everyone's reference.

I wrote the list about half a week ago somewhere around the 4th of the
month. I was having an issue whereby using Windows 8.1 Home Premium and all
the updates along with JAWS 15 Pro were producing a very weird issue. Even
though under the JAWS window>Options>Basics, I had it set to automaticly run
at the logon screen, as well as to run after logon for all users, and I had
the combo box set to always, I still found that JAWS refused to load after
logon. It worked fine as far as launching at the logon screen itself, but
once logged on, it wouldn't autostart.

Most of you all said you were not having this issue with Windows 8.1, and
had suggested I repair JFW. I did this to absolutely no avale. One member
wrote in suggesting it was something to do with the latest Internet Explorer
update, as once they installed that update, they began having the same
issue. I must say I found that incredibly hard to relate the two things to
one another. How could IE have anything to do with jfw not starting up. I
honestly still to this minute hold my opinion that for that person, it was
totally bad timing/coencidental. All of this however said, I don't rule it
out, but I do find it unlikely. I do! however, have a theory. I confess
that I've not gotten the chance to call FS quite yet about this. I plan to
do so this morning first thing when they open up. Basically though, here's
my theory. Again, this may seem kind of like the I E guess. It may sound
100% unrelated. Chances are, it probably isn't related in any respect, I
agree, but, I'm very much unwilling at this point to look over it, and rule
it out as not being possible. I am *not!* running an Intel Pentium
processor. I've got the laptop version of an AMD Athlon. Stupid as it may
sound, I have heard of weird things happenning with certain programs if you
install them on the wrong type of processor, or on one that isn't fully
supported. Though I totally! understand that JFW fully supports all the
major processors from Intel, AMD, to even Celeron, I'm curious if this might
be a bug within the AMD architecture and how it plays back into JFW in a
whole. If anyone's got Windows 8.1, and JAWS 15 with access to an Athlon
system, laptop or not, I'd be extremely curious to know if you have this
issue... specifically with jfw 15 in combination with Windows 8.1 64 bit.

Either way, I'll be calling FS here in just a bit, but I figured I'd throw
this out there as one final attempt for you guys to help me.

Thanks.

Chris.
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Re: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.

Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Well, I spoke with Vicki in FS support, and she insists that it's not their problem, and that something in my task manager is causing the problem, but I've gone into my startup items and disabled everything! yet, still have the issue, just as I suspected that I would.

She was incredibly reluctant to open a support ticket, but I kept pressing at her to do so, and finally she did. that said, she told me that the ticket probably wouldn't be acted upon unless I tried disabling all startup items and it still persisted. Which, of corse, it did. So, yeah, I'm not exactly impressed right now with Tech Support, I have to admit.

She wasn't even willing to acknowledge that it even might! be an issue on their end.

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.


Hi Chris,
There are a number of variables to consider regarding this theory:
* Although Intel and AMD uses different microarchitecture (with same x86
ISA), even different microarchitecture and product families may create this
issue. For example, APU's (Accelerated Processing Unit) are designed as a
CPU-GPU hybrid, thus programs may or may not respond as quickly as before
(or after).
* If it is unique to JFW15 (not to an earlier version) and for 64-bit
Windows 8.1, chances are that something weird is going on in the startup
code after you log into Windows (this tells me that FS might be using a
newer update of VS2010/2012 to compile JFW).
* It might not be hardware at all - perhaps a group policy setting might
have changed things, startup scans and so on. If System Restore didn't help,
then we need to do something more advanced.
* To be sure on this theory (rather, a hypothesis, in my opinion), we need
people willing to test your scenario on different AMD CPU families such as
FX (Bulldozer/Piledriver), APU's and so on, as well as people using Intel
Core/Pentium/Celeron series (up to second batch of 4th generation Core
processors). If people running AMD CPU's can reproduce this issue, then it
is unique to the way AMD handles some stuff, otherwise it's a software
problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:11 AM
To: JAWS list
Subject: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.
Importance: High

OK, let me recap a bit here for everyone's reference.

I wrote the list about half a week ago somewhere around the 4th of the
month. I was having an issue whereby using Windows 8.1 Home Premium and all
the updates along with JAWS 15 Pro were producing a very weird issue. Even
though under the JAWS window>Options>Basics, I had it set to automaticly run
at the logon screen, as well as to run after logon for all users, and I had
the combo box set to always, I still found that JAWS refused to load after
logon. It worked fine as far as launching at the logon screen itself, but
once logged on, it wouldn't autostart.

Most of you all said you were not having this issue with Windows 8.1, and
had suggested I repair JFW. I did this to absolutely no avale. One member
wrote in suggesting it was something to do with the latest Internet Explorer
update, as once they installed that update, they began having the same
issue. I must say I found that incredibly hard to relate the two things to
one another. How could IE have anything to do with jfw not starting up. I
honestly still to this minute hold my opinion that for that person, it was
totally bad timing/coencidental. All of this however said, I don't rule it
out, but I do find it unlikely. I do! however, have a theory. I confess
that I've not gotten the chance to call FS quite yet about this. I plan to
do so this morning first thing when they open up. Basically though, here's
my theory. Again, this may seem kind of like the I E guess. It may sound
100% unrelated. Chances are, it probably isn't related in any respect, I
agree, but, I'm very much unwilling at this point to look over it, and rule
it out as not being possible. I am *not!* running an Intel Pentium
processor. I've got the laptop version of an AMD Athlon. Stupid as it may
sound, I have heard of weird things happenning with certain programs if you
install them on the wrong type of processor, or on one that isn't fully
supported. Though I totally! understand that JFW fully supports all the
major processors from Intel, AMD, to even Celeron, I'm curious if this might
be a bug within the AMD architecture and how it plays back into JFW in a
whole. If anyone's got Windows 8.1, and JAWS 15 with access to an Athlon
system, laptop or not, I'd be extremely curious to know if you have this
issue... specifically with jfw 15 in combination with Windows 8.1 64 bit.

Either way, I'll be calling FS here in just a bit, but I figured I'd throw
this out there as one final attempt for you guys to help me.

Thanks.

Chris.
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Re: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.

Joseph Lee via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Hi,
BIOS update is a sensitive suggestion, in that you might be risking ILM
activation (some of us have reported this critical problem to FS a few
months ago, particularly when it comes to UEFI updates). However, I think
it's more towards software setting that might be causing an issue.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Petro T.
Giannakopoulos via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 5:22 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.

Just a thought here. What about a BIOS update?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.


Hi Chris,
There are a number of variables to consider regarding this theory:
* Although Intel and AMD uses different microarchitecture (with same x86
ISA), even different microarchitecture and product families may create this
issue. For example, APU's (Accelerated Processing Unit) are designed as a
CPU-GPU hybrid, thus programs may or may not respond as quickly as before
(or after).
* If it is unique to JFW15 (not to an earlier version) and for 64-bit
Windows 8.1, chances are that something weird is going on in the startup
code after you log into Windows (this tells me that FS might be using a
newer update of VS2010/2012 to compile JFW).
* It might not be hardware at all - perhaps a group policy setting might
have changed things, startup scans and so on. If System Restore didn't help,
then we need to do something more advanced.
* To be sure on this theory (rather, a hypothesis, in my opinion), we need
people willing to test your scenario on different AMD CPU families such as
FX (Bulldozer/Piledriver), APU's and so on, as well as people using Intel
Core/Pentium/Celeron series (up to second batch of 4th generation Core
processors). If people running AMD CPU's can reproduce this issue, then it
is unique to the way AMD handles some stuff, otherwise it's a software
problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:11 AM
To: JAWS list
Subject: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.
Importance: High

OK, let me recap a bit here for everyone's reference.

I wrote the list about half a week ago somewhere around the 4th of the
month. I was having an issue whereby using Windows 8.1 Home Premium and all
the updates along with JAWS 15 Pro were producing a very weird issue. Even
though under the JAWS window>Options>Basics, I had it set to automaticly run
at the logon screen, as well as to run after logon for all users, and I had
the combo box set to always, I still found that JAWS refused to load after
logon. It worked fine as far as launching at the logon screen itself, but
once logged on, it wouldn't autostart.

Most of you all said you were not having this issue with Windows 8.1, and
had suggested I repair JFW. I did this to absolutely no avale. One member
wrote in suggesting it was something to do with the latest Internet Explorer
update, as once they installed that update, they began having the same
issue. I must say I found that incredibly hard to relate the two things to
one another. How could IE have anything to do with jfw not starting up. I
honestly still to this minute hold my opinion that for that person, it was
totally bad timing/coencidental. All of this however said, I don't rule it
out, but I do find it unlikely. I do! however, have a theory. I confess
that I've not gotten the chance to call FS quite yet about this. I plan to
do so this morning first thing when they open up. Basically though, here's
my theory. Again, this may seem kind of like the I E guess. It may sound
100% unrelated. Chances are, it probably isn't related in any respect, I
agree, but, I'm very much unwilling at this point to look over it, and rule
it out as not being possible. I am *not!* running an Intel Pentium
processor. I've got the laptop version of an AMD Athlon. Stupid as it may
sound, I have heard of weird things happenning with certain programs if you
install them on the wrong type of processor, or on one that isn't fully
supported. Though I totally! understand that JFW fully supports all the
major processors from Intel, AMD, to even Celeron, I'm curious if this might
be a bug within the AMD architecture and how it plays back into JFW in a
whole. If anyone's got Windows 8.1, and JAWS 15 with access to an Athlon
system, laptop or not, I'd be extremely curious to know if you have this
issue... specifically with jfw 15 in combination with Windows 8.1 64 bit.

Either way, I'll be calling FS here in just a bit, but I figured I'd throw
this out there as one final attempt for you guys to help me.

Thanks.

Chris.
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Re: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.

Petro T. Giannakopoulos via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Just a thought here. What about a BIOS update?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.


Hi Chris,
There are a number of variables to consider regarding this theory:
* Although Intel and AMD uses different microarchitecture (with same x86
ISA), even different microarchitecture and product families may create this
issue. For example, APU's (Accelerated Processing Unit) are designed as a
CPU-GPU hybrid, thus programs may or may not respond as quickly as before
(or after).
* If it is unique to JFW15 (not to an earlier version) and for 64-bit
Windows 8.1, chances are that something weird is going on in the startup
code after you log into Windows (this tells me that FS might be using a
newer update of VS2010/2012 to compile JFW).
* It might not be hardware at all - perhaps a group policy setting might
have changed things, startup scans and so on. If System Restore didn't help,
then we need to do something more advanced.
* To be sure on this theory (rather, a hypothesis, in my opinion), we need
people willing to test your scenario on different AMD CPU families such as
FX (Bulldozer/Piledriver), APU's and so on, as well as people using Intel
Core/Pentium/Celeron series (up to second batch of 4th generation Core
processors). If people running AMD CPU's can reproduce this issue, then it
is unique to the way AMD handles some stuff, otherwise it's a software
problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:11 AM
To: JAWS list
Subject: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.
Importance: High

OK, let me recap a bit here for everyone's reference.

I wrote the list about half a week ago somewhere around the 4th of the
month. I was having an issue whereby using Windows 8.1 Home Premium and all
the updates along with JAWS 15 Pro were producing a very weird issue. Even
though under the JAWS window>Options>Basics, I had it set to automaticly run
at the logon screen, as well as to run after logon for all users, and I had
the combo box set to always, I still found that JAWS refused to load after
logon. It worked fine as far as launching at the logon screen itself, but
once logged on, it wouldn't autostart.

Most of you all said you were not having this issue with Windows 8.1, and
had suggested I repair JFW. I did this to absolutely no avale. One member
wrote in suggesting it was something to do with the latest Internet Explorer
update, as once they installed that update, they began having the same
issue. I must say I found that incredibly hard to relate the two things to
one another. How could IE have anything to do with jfw not starting up. I
honestly still to this minute hold my opinion that for that person, it was
totally bad timing/coencidental. All of this however said, I don't rule it
out, but I do find it unlikely. I do! however, have a theory. I confess
that I've not gotten the chance to call FS quite yet about this. I plan to
do so this morning first thing when they open up. Basically though, here's
my theory. Again, this may seem kind of like the I E guess. It may sound
100% unrelated. Chances are, it probably isn't related in any respect, I
agree, but, I'm very much unwilling at this point to look over it, and rule
it out as not being possible. I am *not!* running an Intel Pentium
processor. I've got the laptop version of an AMD Athlon. Stupid as it may
sound, I have heard of weird things happenning with certain programs if you
install them on the wrong type of processor, or on one that isn't fully
supported. Though I totally! understand that JFW fully supports all the
major processors from Intel, AMD, to even Celeron, I'm curious if this might
be a bug within the AMD architecture and how it plays back into JFW in a
whole. If anyone's got Windows 8.1, and JAWS 15 with access to an Athlon
system, laptop or not, I'd be extremely curious to know if you have this
issue... specifically with jfw 15 in combination with Windows 8.1 64 bit.

Either way, I'll be calling FS here in just a bit, but I figured I'd throw
this out there as one final attempt for you guys to help me.

Thanks.

Chris.
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Re: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.

Joseph Lee via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Hi Chris,
There are a number of variables to consider regarding this theory:
* Although Intel and AMD uses different microarchitecture (with same x86
ISA), even different microarchitecture and product families may create this
issue. For example, APU's (Accelerated Processing Unit) are designed as a
CPU-GPU hybrid, thus programs may or may not respond as quickly as before
(or after).
* If it is unique to JFW15 (not to an earlier version) and for 64-bit
Windows 8.1, chances are that something weird is going on in the startup
code after you log into Windows (this tells me that FS might be using a
newer update of VS2010/2012 to compile JFW).
* It might not be hardware at all - perhaps a group policy setting might
have changed things, startup scans and so on. If System Restore didn't help,
then we need to do something more advanced.
* To be sure on this theory (rather, a hypothesis, in my opinion), we need
people willing to test your scenario on different AMD CPU families such as
FX (Bulldozer/Piledriver), APU's and so on, as well as people using Intel
Core/Pentium/Celeron series (up to second batch of 4th generation Core
processors). If people running AMD CPU's can reproduce this issue, then it
is unique to the way AMD handles some stuff, otherwise it's a software
problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:11 AM
To: JAWS list
Subject: I have a theory about my jaws startup issue.
Importance: High

OK, let me recap a bit here for everyone's reference.

I wrote the list about half a week ago somewhere around the 4th of the
month. I was having an issue whereby using Windows 8.1 Home Premium and all
the updates along with JAWS 15 Pro were producing a very weird issue. Even
though under the JAWS window>Options>Basics, I had it set to automaticly run
at the logon screen, as well as to run after logon for all users, and I had
the combo box set to always, I still found that JAWS refused to load after
logon. It worked fine as far as launching at the logon screen itself, but
once logged on, it wouldn't autostart.

Most of you all said you were not having this issue with Windows 8.1, and
had suggested I repair JFW. I did this to absolutely no avale. One member
wrote in suggesting it was something to do with the latest Internet Explorer
update, as once they installed that update, they began having the same
issue. I must say I found that incredibly hard to relate the two things to
one another. How could IE have anything to do with jfw not starting up. I
honestly still to this minute hold my opinion that for that person, it was
totally bad timing/coencidental. All of this however said, I don't rule it
out, but I do find it unlikely. I do! however, have a theory. I confess
that I've not gotten the chance to call FS quite yet about this. I plan to
do so this morning first thing when they open up. Basically though, here's
my theory. Again, this may seem kind of like the I E guess. It may sound
100% unrelated. Chances are, it probably isn't related in any respect, I
agree, but, I'm very much unwilling at this point to look over it, and rule
it out as not being possible. I am *not!* running an Intel Pentium
processor. I've got the laptop version of an AMD Athlon. Stupid as it may
sound, I have heard of weird things happenning with certain programs if you
install them on the wrong type of processor, or on one that isn't fully
supported. Though I totally! understand that JFW fully supports all the
major processors from Intel, AMD, to even Celeron, I'm curious if this might
be a bug within the AMD architecture and how it plays back into JFW in a
whole. If anyone's got Windows 8.1, and JAWS 15 with access to an Athlon
system, laptop or not, I'd be extremely curious to know if you have this
issue... specifically with jfw 15 in combination with Windows 8.1 64 bit.

Either way, I'll be calling FS here in just a bit, but I figured I'd throw
this out there as one final attempt for you guys to help me.

Thanks.

Chris.
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Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

OK, let me recap a bit here for everyone's reference.

I wrote the list about half a week ago somewhere around the 4th of the month. I was having an issue whereby using Windows 8.1 Home Premium and all the updates along with JAWS 15 Pro were producing a very weird issue. Even though under the JAWS window>Options>Basics, I had it set to automaticly run at the logon screen, as well as to run after logon for all users, and I had the combo box set to always, I still found that JAWS refused to load after logon. It worked fine as far as launching at the logon screen itself, but once logged on, it wouldn't autostart.

Most of you all said you were not having this issue with Windows 8.1, and had suggested I repair JFW. I did this to absolutely no avale. One member wrote in suggesting it was something to do with the latest Internet Explorer update, as once they installed that update, they began having the same issue. I must say I found that incredibly hard to relate the two things to one another. How could IE have anything to do with jfw not starting up. I honestly still to this minute hold my opinion that for that person, it was totally bad timing/coencidental. All of this however said, I don't rule it out, but I do find it unlikely. I do! however, have a theory. I confess that I've not gotten the chance to call FS quite yet about this. I plan to do so this morning first thing when they open up. Basically though, here's my theory. Again, this may seem kind of like the I E guess. It may sound 100% unrelated. Chances are, it probably isn't related in any respect, I agree, but, I'm very much unwilling at this point to look over it, and rule it out as not being possible. I am *not!* running an Intel Pentium processor. I've got the laptop version of an AMD Athlon. Stupid as it may sound, I have heard of weird things happenning with certain programs if you install them on the wrong type of processor, or on one that isn't fully supported. Though I totally! understand that JFW fully supports all the major processors from Intel, AMD, to even Celeron, I'm curious if this might be a bug within the AMD architecture and how it plays back into JFW in a whole. If anyone's got Windows 8.1, and JAWS 15 with access to an Athlon system, laptop or not, I'd be extremely curious to know if you have this issue... specifically with jfw 15 in combination with Windows 8.1 64 bit.

Either way, I'll be calling FS here in just a bit, but I figured I'd throw this out there as one final attempt for you guys to help me.

Thanks.

Chris.
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Re: I tunes j tunes

Christopher-Mark Gilland via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Joe,

I use ITunes without the JTunes scripts quite frequently. Perhaps I am out of line saying this, but when I saw those scripts had been made, I was like... OK? Um, uh, why? I find that I can do just about everything without the scripts. OK, the scripts might make some tasks a little bit easier, I'll maybe grant you that, depending on what task you're trying to do, but over all, I've been using ITunes ever since version 7.0 when it was first made accessible. Ever since, I've not had any problem with it.

I personally would try it without the scripts, and see what you think. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Chris.

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To: "jaws users" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 6:42 AM
Subject: I tunes j tunes


Hi all

last week my pc dyed and now I have it back I cant get jaws to work with I tunes, now before my pc went tits up I had j tunes on it and it was all working well, so what I really want to know is dose I tunes now work with jaws or do I need j tunes again, second thing is wear do I down load J tunes from and there is there any way of getting my code from J tunes web sight so I don't have to buy it again.

thanks in advance Joe
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I tunes j tunes

joe stinton via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Hi all

last week my pc dyed and now I have it back I cant get jaws to work with I tunes, now before my pc went tits up I had j tunes on it and it was all working well, so what I really want to know is dose I tunes now work with jaws or do I need j tunes again, second thing is wear do I down load J tunes from and there is there any way of getting my code from J tunes web sight so I don't have to buy it again.

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Re: Seeking good unit converter

MJ Williams via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

The Google calculator user interface isn't quite as you describe it, but the product should satisfy your requirements.
Take a look at https://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/help/features.html#calculator
I'm sure Google provides a comprehensive list of the keywords and functions for the calculator. Don't ask me where it is though. *smile*
All best, Matthew

At 05:26 12/05/2014, you wrote:
HI guys
I don't know if your Jaws English's ResearchIt has a unit converter? My Jaws15 Spanish doesn't, thus am wondering, like Google's Money converter, does Google have it's own unit converter, or do you guys know of an accessible and intuitive one to use with Jaws15? By unit converter I mean for instance I'd put in the first edit field the number, from a Combo box choose from what i want to convert; then in the next combo box, I'd choose the destination unit. Makes sense? Thanks for info.

--
Enviado desde mi lap
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Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
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Seeking good unit converter

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HI guys
I don't know if your Jaws English's ResearchIt has a unit converter? My Jaws15 Spanish doesn't, thus am wondering, like Google's Money converter, does Google have it's own unit converter, or do you guys know of an accessible and intuitive one to use with Jaws15? By unit converter I mean for instance I'd put in the first edit field the number, from a Combo box choose from what i want to convert; then in the next combo box, I'd choose the destination unit. Makes sense? Thanks for info.

--
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Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
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Re: JAWS doesn't focus on Word 2010 documents when openingthem as attachments in Outlook 2010?

DJ via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Thank you Anna. As soom as I'm back on that machine your instructions will
be the first and hopefully the last ones I try. Have a great day!

DJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Anna Byrne via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS doesn't focus on Word 2010 documents when openingthem as
attachments in Outlook 2010?

In Word 2010 go to files/options: alt-f, then t. In the grid that
appears arrow down to Trust center and tab to trust center settings
and press enter. Uncheck the ones you don't want and okay, and okay again.
At 06:20 PM 5/10/2014, you wrote:
Hello,



I've done a little research on this and I think I've found the solution,
but
I thought someone here might have already dealt with it and would be able
to
share their experience. After opening the Word 2010 attachment I find that
it opens in protected mode and I have to click into the document with the
mouse to make JAWS focus and read it. Would this be corrected if I set
Outlook to not open documents in protected mode? What other solutions
might
you have for me? BTW, it happens with all Word documents so I know that it
is not document specific.



Thanks,



DJ

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Re: Creating groups in Windows Live Mail

Melissa Stott via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Thanks so much for your help!

-----Original Message-----
From: Anna Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating groups in Windows Live Mail

Check out David Bails' tutorial on windows Live Mail. It is awesome!
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.html
At 03:33 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote:
Hi! Can anyone tell me how to create a group in Windows Live Mail?

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Re: Creating groups in Windows Live Mail

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Check out David Bails' tutorial on windows Live Mail. It is awesome!
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.html

At 03:33 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote:
Hi! Can anyone tell me how to create a group in Windows Live Mail?

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Re: on mouseover

Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

I doubt it. On a desktop, you would press the right mouse button to bring up the menu with open. Wouldn't that be the case with a laptop, too?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Deborah Ver Steeg via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:21 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

Is this why I would not be able to open attachments in my laptop using left
mouse button?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 1:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

I am glad someone else has this problem. It does not work for me on my HP
laptop using W7 64 bit, Office 2007, JAWS 14.
As I recall there is, somewhere, a setting to turn off mouseover. Any hints?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Malone
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:23 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

Hello all, I find that the control plus insert enter key doesn't always
work...Is there another way?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Charles Coe
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

Hi CY,

Here is the way:

pressing INSERT+CTRL+ENTER when you hear JAWS announce OnMouseOver

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: on mouseover

Okay folks, please tell the big dummy the keystroke for mouseover.

I thought I hade save it but I can't find it.

Cy

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Hi! Can anyone tell me how to create a group in Windows Live Mail?

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Re: on mouseover

Deborah Ver Steeg via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Is this why I would not be able to open attachments in my laptop using left
mouse button?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 1:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

I am glad someone else has this problem. It does not work for me on my HP
laptop using W7 64 bit, Office 2007, JAWS 14.
As I recall there is, somewhere, a setting to turn off mouseover. Any hints?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Malone
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:23 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

Hello all, I find that the control plus insert enter key doesn't always
work...Is there another way?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Charles Coe
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

Hi CY,

Here is the way:

pressing INSERT+CTRL+ENTER when you hear JAWS announce OnMouseOver

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: on mouseover

Okay folks, please tell the big dummy the keystroke for mouseover.

I thought I hade save it but I can't find it.

Cy

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Re: on mouseover

Cy Selfridge via Jfw <jfw@...>
 

Charles,
Hey, thanks as this eliminated the blamed problem.
I simply opened outlook, then I used the insert+6 on the num row. Again,
thanks.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Charles Coe
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:36 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

Here is an answer I found on a prior message

1, open IE,

2, insert+6 on the numbers row,
this opens up the IE jaws settings center,

3, now in the search edit box type in;
element,
this should find one result,
now down arrow the default is checked,
press the spacebar to uncheck,
now tab okay press enter.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:15 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

I am glad someone else has this problem. It does not work for me on my HP
laptop using W7 64 bit, Office 2007, JAWS 14.
As I recall there is, somewhere, a setting to turn off mouseover. Any hints?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Malone
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:23 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

Hello all, I find that the control plus insert enter key doesn't always
work...Is there another way?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Charles Coe
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: on mouseover

Hi CY,

Here is the way:

pressing INSERT+CTRL+ENTER when you hear JAWS announce OnMouseOver

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: on mouseover

Okay folks, please tell the big dummy the keystroke for mouseover.

I thought I hade save it but I can't find it.

Cy

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