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Re: Jaws installation question for Windows 7 laptop

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

if I am not mistaken the Freedom Scientific Jaws 12 CD has both and will load the proper one due to a difference in how the two versions of windows 7 goes about this.

its those of us using downloaded copies, home made CD's thumb drives or network shares to load it that need to know what our system is.

HTH,
elf
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 5:19 AM
Subject: Jaws installation question for Windows 7 laptop


Hi, folks.

I have read some discussion about the need to determine whether a windows 7 machine is either 32-bit or 64-bit prior to actually installing Jaws.

I have been told that you must select either the 32-bit or 64-bit Jaws package before conducting the installation process.

Is this true?

If so, how do you make that selection from the Jaws 12 installation CD?

Tom in Michigan

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Re: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

that wasn't what was said by most of us, what we said, for the majority was 12 works, but has problems, 11 works well and doesn't have the new and unusual problems so most of us are running it on our XP machines and letting J12 sit. and stew.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines


Hello there;

Where did this information originate?

Jaws12 will not work well on a XP machine?

I have 2 XP machine's running jaws12 as we speak.

No problems.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of djasister@...
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines

Will 12 not work?

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines

Yes, stick to JAWS 11 on your XP machine. Don't fix what isn't broken. Wait
and see what JAWS 13 does.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:27
Subject: [Bulk] What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I still use
XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS 11, even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches us all
completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still an XP machine, and
still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at home is an XP machine, and that
too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they are now on
the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which seems to be geared
more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with my
remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7 laptop
the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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Re: [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws11toJaws12

Gerald Levy
 

Interesting. I have installed JAWS 8,9 and 10, and in each case, the hot key Alt-Control-J was automatically assigned by JAWS to launch that version. Maybe this feature was eliminated from JAWS 12.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws11toJaws12


Gerald,

I just installed JAWS 12 last night. No hotkey was assigned. I don't recall
JAWS automatically assigning a hotkey in the past, either.

Regarding Hotkey Detective, I was advised, and I soon confirmed, that it
detects only hotkeys assigned to desktop icons. Hotkeys assigned to
applications through the programs menu are not detected.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12


Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version installed on your
computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key Alt-Control-J when it
was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot key, it will
always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined hot key
Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically assigned by an
application take precedence over hot keys defined by the user. You can use
Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular hot key is application
assigned or user assigned. When I installed the demo version of JAWS 10,
Alt-Control-J, which had been created automatically when I originally
installed JAWS 9, was automatically reassigned to JAWS 10. In order to
reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS 9, my default version of JAWS, I had to
use Hot Key Detective to delete Alt-Control-J from JAWS 10 and then use the
Properties dialog of JAWS 9 to re-create it as a user-assigned hot key.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and
then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key
combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In
that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my
experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is,
launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10
and JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same
with JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which
version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched
JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one
application, Windows will launch the last program to which you
assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which
has the latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a
different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request. this
would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought.
please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically
assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned
CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I
had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and
press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be
loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key
combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to
assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to
another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give
you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the
other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11
toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will
start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be
added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may
not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you
could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with
the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old
version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to
Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is
the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to
do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to
have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of
Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke.
Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the
shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have
taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

Tom in Michigan



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Re: [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws11toJaws12

Ambrose <ambroselh@...>
 

Then put anything you want too save the hot key for on your desktop

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12

Adrian, I've been using jaws for around thirteen years, and it definitely
never has.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 22 August 2011 17:57
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12

Gerald,

I just installed JAWS 12 last night. No hotkey was assigned. I don't recall
JAWS automatically assigning a hotkey in the past, either.

Regarding Hotkey Detective, I was advised, and I soon confirmed, that it
detects only hotkeys assigned to desktop icons. Hotkeys assigned to
applications through the programs menu are not detected.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12


Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version installed on your
computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key Alt-Control-J when it
was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot key, it will
always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined hot key
Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically assigned by an
application take precedence over hot keys defined by the user. You can use
Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular hot key is application
assigned or user assigned. When I installed the demo version of JAWS 10,
Alt-Control-J, which had been created automatically when I originally
installed JAWS 9, was automatically reassigned to JAWS 10. In order to
reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS 9, my default version of JAWS, I had to
use Hot Key Detective to delete Alt-Control-J from JAWS 10 and then use the
Properties dialog of JAWS 9 to re-create it as a user-assigned hot key.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and
then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key
combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In
that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my
experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is,
launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10
and JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same
with JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which
version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched
JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one
application, Windows will launch the last program to which you
assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which
has the latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a
different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request. this
would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought.
please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically
assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned
CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I
had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and
press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be
loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key
combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to
assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to
another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give
you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the
other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11
toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will
start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be
added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may
not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you
could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with
the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old
version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to
Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is
the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to
do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to
have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of
Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke.
Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the
shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have
taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

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Re: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

ken lawrence
 

Yeah think that the only part of this that relates to the list is these are from a person who has harvested addresses that is a security threat. I have save in my junk folder the gmail report information and have sent and will continue to send his crap to the feds. when I replied to him by accident told him he was being reported and his answer was mentally stupid crap along the line of next time write in english and then you can talk. must have had typos. but this is a possible security wrisk the administraitors should watch for his email and find how he has gotten our addresses before he really does something more than put out this racest crap. he can do worse things to blind and visualy impaired from the information he has gotten.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:25 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

Technically not racist, but anti-Semitic, the dark side of the upheaval
Egypt is currently going through. If you have more questions, I suggest you
inquire off-list because this thread shouldn't be perpetuated. I myself have
nothing to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of angie loves alex
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:07 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Re: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

what racist comments has mostapha said i didnt think he was like that

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:15 BST Ken Lawrence wrote:

Also spam@... works will kepp this handythanks he apparently has
gotten it from here or maybe one of the NFB lists or even skype lists

-----Original Message----- From: Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: blindwindows7@... ; ddots-l@...
Subject: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

I wasn't going to post on this matter again. However, I quickly found
the place to report abuse to Gmail.l.

I believe Mostafa Al'Mahdy harvested my email address from this or
similar blindness-related listserves. Since he has chosen to ignore my
public and private requests to not be mailed any more of his political
rantings, I have reported him to Gmail. Those of you receiving similar
mail may wish to do likewise.
The form at this URL requests message headers, gmail user id of the
offending party, and the message body of one of the offending emails,
so be sure to have that handy to paste into the right places.

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse

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Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws11toJaws12

Adrian Spratt
 

I'm glad. In my case, Hotkey Detective didn't detect every start menu hotkey
and it took some pro se detecting to find them all. Treat my experience as
cautionary, just in case a shortcut conflict persists, as was the case for
me with control-alt-n.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws11toJaws12

Adrian,

Beg to differ. I use Hot Key Detective 1.0 on my XP Pro system and it shows
both desktop shortcut assignments as well as start menu assignments. I have
three with the path:

c:\documents and settings\user name\start menu\programs\filename.exe

And some others with the path

C:\documents and settings\user name\desktop\filename.exe

And in all this I found a duplicate hotkey assigned to both a desktop
shortcut and a start menu shortcut, so appreciate the opportunity to fix a
problem I was having for quite some time.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:56
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12


Gerald,

I just installed JAWS 12 last night. No hotkey was assigned. I don't recall
JAWS automatically assigning a hotkey in the past, either.

Regarding Hotkey Detective, I was advised, and I soon confirmed, that it
detects only hotkeys assigned to desktop icons. Hotkeys assigned to
applications through the programs menu are not detected.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12


Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version installed on your
computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key Alt-Control-J when it
was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot key, it will
always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined hot key
Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically assigned by an
application take precedence over hot keys defined by the user. You can use
Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular hot key is application
assigned or user assigned. When I installed the demo version of JAWS 10,
Alt-Control-J, which had been created automatically when I originally
installed JAWS 9, was automatically reassigned to JAWS 10. In order to
reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS 9, my default version of JAWS, I had to
use Hot Key Detective to delete Alt-Control-J from JAWS 10 and then use the
Properties dialog of JAWS 9 to re-create it as a user-assigned hot key.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and
then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key
combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In
that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my
experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is,
launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10
and JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same
with JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which
version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched
JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one
application, Windows will launch the last program to which you
assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which
has the latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a
different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request.
this would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought.
please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically
assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned
CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that
CTRL+ALT+I
had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10
and press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would
be loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut
key
combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to
assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a
program to
another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and
give you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination
for the other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws 11
toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will
start up on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will
be added to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and
it may or may
not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you
could end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the
first one with
the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old
version and the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey
assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay
Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11 to
Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke.
That is
the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need
to do is go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check
the box to have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of
Jaws, tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut
keystroke.
Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws
12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to
Jaws 12 from Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades, and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the
shortcut over to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would
have taken care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade
efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

Tom in Michigan



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Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws11toJaws12

Dave...
 

Adrian,

Beg to differ. I use Hot Key Detective 1.0 on my XP Pro system and it shows
both desktop shortcut assignments as well as start menu assignments. I have
three with the path:

c:\documents and settings\user name\start menu\programs\filename.exe

And some others with the path

C:\documents and settings\user name\desktop\filename.exe

And in all this I found a duplicate hotkey assigned to both a desktop
shortcut and a start menu shortcut, so appreciate the opportunity to fix a
problem I was having for quite some time.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:56
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12


Gerald,

I just installed JAWS 12 last night. No hotkey was assigned. I don't recall
JAWS automatically assigning a hotkey in the past, either.

Regarding Hotkey Detective, I was advised, and I soon confirmed, that it
detects only hotkeys assigned to desktop icons. Hotkeys assigned to
applications through the programs menu are not detected.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12


Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version installed on your
computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key Alt-Control-J when it
was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot key, it will
always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined hot key
Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically assigned by an
application take precedence over hot keys defined by the user. You can use
Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular hot key is application
assigned or user assigned. When I installed the demo version of JAWS 10,
Alt-Control-J, which had been created automatically when I originally
installed JAWS 9, was automatically reassigned to JAWS 10. In order to
reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS 9, my default version of JAWS, I had to
use Hot Key Detective to delete Alt-Control-J from JAWS 10 and then use the
Properties dialog of JAWS 9 to re-create it as a user-assigned hot key.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and
then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key
combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In
that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my
experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is,
launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10
and JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same
with JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which
version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched
JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one
application, Windows will launch the last program to which you
assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which
has the latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a
different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request. this
would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought.
please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically
assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned
CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I
had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and
press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be
loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key
combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to
assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to
another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give
you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the
other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11
toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will
start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be
added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may
not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you
could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with
the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old
version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to
Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is
the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to
do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to
have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of
Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke.
Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the
shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have
taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

Tom in Michigan



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Re: [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws11toJaws12

Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
 

Adrian, I've been using jaws for around thirteen years, and it definitely
never has.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 22 August 2011 17:57
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12

Gerald,

I just installed JAWS 12 last night. No hotkey was assigned. I don't recall
JAWS automatically assigning a hotkey in the past, either.

Regarding Hotkey Detective, I was advised, and I soon confirmed, that it
detects only hotkeys assigned to desktop icons. Hotkeys assigned to
applications through the programs menu are not detected.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12


Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version installed on your
computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key Alt-Control-J when it
was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot key, it will
always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined hot key
Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically assigned by an
application take precedence over hot keys defined by the user. You can use
Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular hot key is application
assigned or user assigned. When I installed the demo version of JAWS 10,
Alt-Control-J, which had been created automatically when I originally
installed JAWS 9, was automatically reassigned to JAWS 10. In order to
reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS 9, my default version of JAWS, I had to
use Hot Key Detective to delete Alt-Control-J from JAWS 10 and then use the
Properties dialog of JAWS 9 to re-create it as a user-assigned hot key.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and
then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key
combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In
that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my
experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is,
launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10
and JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same
with JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which
version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched
JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one
application, Windows will launch the last program to which you
assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which
has the latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a
different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request. this
would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought.
please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically
assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned
CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I
had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and
press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be
loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key
combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to
assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to
another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give
you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the
other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11
toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will
start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be
added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may
not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you
could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with
the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old
version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to
Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is
the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to
do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to
have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of
Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke.
Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the
shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have
taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

Tom in Michigan



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Re: [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws11toJaws12

Adrian Spratt
 

Gerald,

I just installed JAWS 12 last night. No hotkey was assigned. I don't recall
JAWS automatically assigning a hotkey in the past, either.

Regarding Hotkey Detective, I was advised, and I soon confirmed, that it
detects only hotkeys assigned to desktop icons. Hotkeys assigned to
applications through the programs menu are not detected.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from
Jaws11toJaws12


Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version installed on your
computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key Alt-Control-J when it
was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot key, it will
always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined hot key
Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically assigned by an
application take precedence over hot keys defined by the user. You can use
Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular hot key is application
assigned or user assigned. When I installed the demo version of JAWS 10,
Alt-Control-J, which had been created automatically when I originally
installed JAWS 9, was automatically reassigned to JAWS 10. In order to
reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS 9, my default version of JAWS, I had to
use Hot Key Detective to delete Alt-Control-J from JAWS 10 and then use the
Properties dialog of JAWS 9 to re-create it as a user-assigned hot key.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and
then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key
combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In
that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my
experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is,
launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10
and JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same
with JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which
version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched
JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one
application, Windows will launch the last program to which you
assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which
has the latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a
different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request. this
would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought.
please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically
assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned
CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I
had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and
press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be
loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key
combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to
assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to
another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give
you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the
other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11
toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will
start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be
added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may
not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you
could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with
the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old
version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to
Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is
the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to
do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to
have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of
Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke.
Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the
shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have
taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

Tom in Michigan



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Re: [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws12

Gerald Levy
 

Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version installed on your computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key Alt-Control-J when it was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot key, it will always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined hot key Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically assigned by an application take precedence over hot keys defined by the user. You can use Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular hot key is application assigned or user assigned. When I installed the demo version of JAWS 10, Alt-Control-J, which had been created automatically when I originally installed JAWS 9, was automatically reassigned to JAWS 10. In order to reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS 9, my default version of JAWS, I had to use Hot Key Detective to delete Alt-Control-J from JAWS 10 and then use the Properties dialog of JAWS 9 to re-create it as a user-assigned hot key.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws12


Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is, launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10 and JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same with JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one application, Windows will launch the last program to which you assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which has the latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws12


dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request. this would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought. please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke. Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

Tom in Michigan



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Re: issues with JFW on my new computer

Graham Smith <g.smith577@...>
 

windows seven 64 bit,latest build of jaws

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Nokia N95
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:46
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: issues with JFW on my new computer

Which operating system?

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: Re: issues with JFW on my new computer
From: "Graham Smith" <g.smith577@...>
Date: 08-22-2011 07:32

Can anyone tell me why very often I do not get the Alt N option when I try
to download something. When I am in this situation i find it very difficult
to find the run or save options. I really dont know why this is happening
any ideas?

graham


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:37
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello there;

To get to save or run,

Press, alt+n,

You can also press ctrl+j, to get other options,



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of bill Deatherage
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:32 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello,
I have been on the list before but it has been a while. I bought a new
computer yesterday and have been having fun in putting the programs on it.
it was set up when I got it. I am having some problems in IE 9. when I go
to download a program and I get to the option where it says to either save
or run the program I cannot get it to go to save. I have had it to get to
run by trying different things. in the windows Mail program I have been
having some issues with writing messages. I am typing the message and when
I make a mistake I arrow back to correct the problem and there is nothing
there or JAWS isn’t reading it. I have tried another r screen reading
program and had some issues with the brows mode. I am wondering if JAWS is
now having some issues with that? I am wondering if it is the programs like
windows mail, and IE 9, or is it JFW, or is it the computer. I have tried
fire fox and it seems to work better with JFW than IE 9.
any suggestions would be appreciated.
Like I said, the computer is new and if there is an issue with It I would
like to get it solved since I have only had it home for 2 days.
Thank you again in advance.
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Re: issues with JFW on my new computer

Graham Smith <g.smith577@...>
 

yes tried all of that with no success. I eventually get there but no idea how. I will try using the passs through option next time.

I always know when it is going to happen because I dont hear the alt n option announced.

Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:50
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello there;

Not sure why you do not see/hear the alt+n however, have you tried the tab key, or, even, using the right/left arrow keys?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Graham Smith
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: issues with JFW on my new computer

Can anyone tell me why very often I do not get the Alt N option when I try
to download something. When I am in this situation i find it very difficult
to find the run or save options. I really dont know why this is happening
any ideas?

graham


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:37
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello there;

To get to save or run,

Press, alt+n,

You can also press ctrl+j, to get other options,



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of bill Deatherage
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:32 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello,
I have been on the list before but it has been a while. I bought a new
computer yesterday and have been having fun in putting the programs on it.
it was set up when I got it. I am having some problems in IE 9. when I go
to download a program and I get to the option where it says to either save
or run the program I cannot get it to go to save. I have had it to get to
run by trying different things. in the windows Mail program I have been
having some issues with writing messages. I am typing the message and when
I make a mistake I arrow back to correct the problem and there is nothing
there or JAWS isn’t reading it. I have tried another r screen reading
program and had some issues with the brows mode. I am wondering if JAWS is
now having some issues with that? I am wondering if it is the programs like
windows mail, and IE 9, or is it JFW, or is it the computer. I have tried
fire fox and it seems to work better with JFW than IE 9.
any suggestions would be appreciated.
Like I said, the computer is new and if there is an issue with It I would
like to get it solved since I have only had it home for 2 days.
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Re: [Bulk] VOIP Soft Phone

Dave...
 

Ed,

Here's one that I'm using with JAWS 12 on XP Pro platform, and it works very
well with JAWS. The executable file is:

VTGO-PC-508-2.11.1.228.exe

Here's contact info from the user guide:

IP blue Software Solutions

15 East 26th St

New York, NY 10010

USA

http://www.ipblue.com

Phone: (212) 485-1200

Fax: (212) 485-1380

Product ID: v-268-472583



They have excellent tech support for someone using JAWS and have enhanced
the product to work with screen readers.



And, no I do not work for the company.



Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:08
Subject: [Bulk] VOIP Soft Phone


I'm looking for a good VOIP soft phone that plays nicely with JAWS. I've
looked at several that don't.
Our system is Cisco-based here at the office. Suggestions would be
appreciated.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
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VOIP Soft Phone

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

I'm looking for a good VOIP soft phone that plays nicely with JAWS. I've looked at several that don't.
Our system is Cisco-based here at the office. Suggestions would be appreciated.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
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Re: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

Gary King
 

Isn't there a way to block someone in Gmail? I have made good use of the Block Senders List in the email programs I've used. It even helps with those "Out of Office" messages that some folks send out to demonstrate their importance.

Gary King
w4wkz@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <@ve3rwj>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: <blindwindows7@...>; <ddots-l@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:41 PM
Subject: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi


I wasn't going to post on this matter again. However, I quickly found the place to report abuse to Gmail.l.

I believe Mostafa Al'Mahdy harvested my email address from this or similar blindness-related listserves. Since he has chosen to ignore my public and private requests to not be mailed any more of his political rantings, I have reported him to Gmail. Those of you receiving similar mail may wish to do likewise.
The form at this URL requests message headers, gmail user id of the offending party, and the message body of one of the offending emails, so be sure to have that handy to paste into the right places.

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse

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Re: [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws12

Dave Durber
 

Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In that instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is, launch JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10 and JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same with JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one application, Windows will launch the last program to which you assigned the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which has the latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws12


dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request. this would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a thought. please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10 and press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut key combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried to assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a program to another program, Windows would tell you that this was the case and give you another opportunity to choose another short cut combination for the other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or may not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one with the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That is the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need to do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke. Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

Tom in Michigan



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Admin: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

James Homuth
 

Folks,

This thread comes to an end right here. If you have concerns about a current
or former list member, the list email address is not where it goes. Send
them to me or Jessica, or don't send them. Additionally, the member in
question has removed himself, and will not be permitted to return. Once
again, off-list with this, please.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Ken Lawrence
Sent: August 22, 2011 1:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

Yeah think that the only part of this that relates to the list is these are
from a person who has harvested addresses that is a security threat. I have

save in my junk folder the gmail report information and have sent and will
continue to send his crap to the feds. when I replied to him by accident
told him he was being reported and his answer was mentally stupid crap along

the line of next time write in english and then you can talk. must have had

typos. but this is a possible security wrisk the administraitors should
watch for his email and find how he has gotten our addresses before he
really does something more than put out this racest crap. he can do worse
things to blind and visualy impaired from the information he has gotten.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:25 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

Technically not racist, but anti-Semitic, the dark side of the upheaval
Egypt is currently going through. If you have more questions, I suggest you
inquire off-list because this thread shouldn't be perpetuated. I myself have
nothing to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of angie loves alex
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:07 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Re: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

what racist comments has mostapha said i didnt think he was like that

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:15 BST Ken Lawrence wrote:

Also spam@... works will kepp this handythanks he apparently has
gotten it from here or maybe one of the NFB lists or even skype lists

-----Original Message----- From: Chris Smart
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: blindwindows7@... ; ddots-l@...
Subject: Unwanted Racist Emails from Mostafa.al'madi

I wasn't going to post on this matter again. However, I quickly found
the place to report abuse to Gmail.l.

I believe Mostafa Al'Mahdy harvested my email address from this or
similar blindness-related listserves. Since he has chosen to ignore my
public and private requests to not be mailed any more of his political
rantings, I have reported him to Gmail. Those of you receiving similar
mail may wish to do likewise.
The form at this URL requests message headers, gmail user id of the
offending party, and the message body of one of the offending emails,
so be sure to have that handy to paste into the right places.

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse

Chris


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Re: issues with JFW on my new computer

Gerald Levy
 

In some applications, Alt-N is used by JAWS. To get around this problem, first press JAWS key-num row 3, the JAWS command for keystroke pass through, and then Alt-N. This has worked for me.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Smith" <g.smith577@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: issues with JFW on my new computer


Can anyone tell me why very often I do not get the Alt N option when I try to download something. When I am in this situation i find it very difficult to find the run or save options. I really dont know why this is happening any ideas?

graham


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:37
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello there;

To get to save or run,

Press, alt+n,

You can also press ctrl+j, to get other options,



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of bill Deatherage
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:32 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello,
I have been on the list before but it has been a while. I bought a new computer yesterday and have been having fun in putting the programs on it. it was set up when I got it. I am having some problems in IE 9. when I go to download a program and I get to the option where it says to either save or run the program I cannot get it to go to save. I have had it to get to run by trying different things. in the windows Mail program I have been having some issues with writing messages. I am typing the message and when I make a mistake I arrow back to correct the problem and there is nothing there or JAWS isn’t reading it. I have tried another r screen reading program and had some issues with the brows mode. I am wondering if JAWS is now having some issues with that? I am wondering if it is the programs like windows mail, and IE 9, or is it JFW, or is it the computer. I have tried fire fox and it seems to work better with JFW than IE 9.
any suggestions would be appreciated.
Like I said, the computer is new and if there is an issue with It I would like to get it solved since I have only had it home for 2 days.
Thank you again in advance.
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Re: issues with JFW on my new computer

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

Not sure why you do not see/hear the alt+n however, have you tried the tab key, or, even, using the right/left arrow keys?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Graham Smith
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: issues with JFW on my new computer

Can anyone tell me why very often I do not get the Alt N option when I try
to download something. When I am in this situation i find it very difficult
to find the run or save options. I really dont know why this is happening
any ideas?

graham


-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:37
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello there;

To get to save or run,

Press, alt+n,

You can also press ctrl+j, to get other options,



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of bill Deatherage
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:32 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello,
I have been on the list before but it has been a while. I bought a new
computer yesterday and have been having fun in putting the programs on it.
it was set up when I got it. I am having some problems in IE 9. when I go
to download a program and I get to the option where it says to either save
or run the program I cannot get it to go to save. I have had it to get to
run by trying different things. in the windows Mail program I have been
having some issues with writing messages. I am typing the message and when
I make a mistake I arrow back to correct the problem and there is nothing
there or JAWS isn’t reading it. I have tried another r screen reading
program and had some issues with the brows mode. I am wondering if JAWS is
now having some issues with that? I am wondering if it is the programs like
windows mail, and IE 9, or is it JFW, or is it the computer. I have tried
fire fox and it seems to work better with JFW than IE 9.
any suggestions would be appreciated.
Like I said, the computer is new and if there is an issue with It I would
like to get it solved since I have only had it home for 2 days.
Thank you again in advance.
Bill Deatherage
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Re: issues with JFW on my new computer

Dave...
 

Which operating system?

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: Re: issues with JFW on my new computer
From: "Graham Smith" <g.smith577@...>
Date: 08-22-2011 07:32

Can anyone tell me why very often I do not get the Alt N option when I try
to download something. When I am in this situation i find it very difficult
to find the run or save options. I really dont know why this is happening
any ideas?

graham

-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:37
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello there;

To get to save or run,

Press, alt+n,

You can also press ctrl+j, to get other options,



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of bill Deatherage
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:32 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: issues with JFW on my new computer

Hello,
I have been on the list before but it has been a while. I bought a new
computer yesterday and have been having fun in putting the programs on it.
it was set up when I got it. I am having some problems in IE 9. when I go
to download a program and I get to the option where it says to either save
or run the program I cannot get it to go to save. I have had it to get to
run by trying different things. in the windows Mail program I have been
having some issues with writing messages. I am typing the message and when
I make a mistake I arrow back to correct the problem and there is nothing
there or JAWS isn’t reading it. I have tried another r screen reading
program and had some issues with the brows mode. I am wondering if JAWS is
now having some issues with that? I am wondering if it is the programs like
windows mail, and IE 9, or is it JFW, or is it the computer. I have tried
fire fox and it seems to work better with JFW than IE 9.
any suggestions would be appreciated.
Like I said, the computer is new and if there is an issue with It I would
like to get it solved since I have only had it home for 2 days.
Thank you again in advance.
Bill Deatherage
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