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Re: The Future of JAWS
Gerald Levy
The high cahoonas at FS must already be sweating bullets over this development, because their silence speaks volumes. Although Eric Damery, their director of software development and more recently, their new CEO, John Blake are the public faces of FS, there is really little public information about who actually owns the company. Speculation is that FS is owned by wealthy Arab business interests. Will they open their deep pockets and make a bid to purchase GWM to keep it out of the hands of MS? This way, they could migrate Window Eyes users to JAWS and remain a viable company. Otherwise, if they start losing government contracts to GWM, their future could be very bleak, in view of the fact that they offer few other marketable products besides Open Book and Magic.
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Gerald
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS Michael, I like your optimism. However, if I'm not mistaken, the biggest buyer of JAWS is the federal government, followed by other levels of government. Laws require government agencies to select the lowest bidder, all things being roughly equal. These agencies have little choice but to buy MS Office, so now G.W. Micro has given them little choice but to select WindowEyes because it won't hurt their budgets one iota. I'd hate to be the government employee who had to try explaining to his or her bosses why JAWS is so superior that it's worth paying thousands of dollars for. This is a shrewd business move by G.W. Micro.
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Re: The Future of JAWS
Harris, Robert <harris.robert@...>
Most totals I've worked around say WE is a great low vision package, not so much for a total.
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I am a government employee and have been for 27 years straight. I have a lot of 508 problems that jaws nor any other package helps with and trying to explain that seems to me to be like trying to stop a freight train with my bare hands! Bobby and Prince
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Mote Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS I wonder if this is a move out of desperation on the part of GW Micro. Have they seen such a decline of new licenses that they are trying anything to be competitive. That's just an observation. Michael makes a great point about educational institutions who would like to offer assistive technology to their students more easily. Looks like their problem just got a lot easier to solve from a cost prospective. It's probably going to cost less to purchase ten licenses for Office 2010, than it would be to purchase the same number of JAWS licenses. Personally, I think it's good to have competition in the market place. The question is can we really say that there is a competition anymore between these two companies. Most blind people I talk to, either use JAWS or NVDA. Very few use Window Eyes. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Malver Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:25 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS It may be that with what window eyes has done, there will be so many people using office that GW Micro will be forced to devoting time and resources it would otherwise put toward supporting applications to ensuring its Windows and Office support. JAWS could then focus more on supporting non-office application such as visual studio, music editing and creation packages, the whole rest of the software world. I think jaws has a large enough user base that it won't be going away anytime soon. People could download NVDA for free before this announcement. What effect did that have on JAWS? TO me, a more interesting question might be whether computer producers who sell new machines with bundled software, including trial versions of office, now bundle it with WindowEyes? Will educational institutions, now realizing they can install window eyes on machine running office, bail on JAWS? These are questions I wonder about. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: The Future of JAWS
Peter_Logan@...
Well ... I just downloaded it .. and the install crashes ... nice ...
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From: "Michael Mote" <miketmote73@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>, Date: 01/15/2014 10:52 AM Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS Sent by: "Jfw" <jfw-bounces@...> I wonder if this is a move out of desperation on the part of GW Micro. Have they seen such a decline of new licenses that they are trying anything to be competitive. That's just an observation. Michael makes a great point about educational institutions who would like to offer assistive technology to their students more easily. Looks like their problem just got a lot easier to solve from a cost prospective. It's probably going to cost less to purchase ten licenses for Office 2010, than it would be to purchase the same number of JAWS licenses. Personally, I think it's good to have competition in the market place. The question is can we really say that there is a competition anymore between these two companies. Most blind people I talk to, either use JAWS or NVDA. Very few use Window Eyes.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Malver Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:25 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS It may be that with what window eyes has done, there will be so many people using office that GW Micro will be forced to devoting time and resources it would otherwise put toward supporting applications to ensuring its Windows and Office support. JAWS could then focus more on supporting non-office application such as visual studio, music editing and creation packages, the whole rest of the software world. I think jaws has a large enough user base that it won't be going away anytime soon. People could download NVDA for free before this announcement. What effect did that have on JAWS? TO me, a more interesting question might be whether computer producers who sell new machines with bundled software, including trial versions of office, now bundle it with WindowEyes? Will educational institutions, now realizing they can install window eyes on machine running office, bail on JAWS? These are questions I wonder about. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140115/58861fd1/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 29162 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140115/58861fd1/attachment.jpe>
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Re: The Future of JAWS
Adrian Spratt
I agree with Judith on this one. Once a leading screenreader is incorporated into applications as mainstream as MS Office, it risks becoming just one of many priorities. Right now, FS, G.W. Micro and others are focused completely on our needs. Apple's VoiceOver suggests what might happen when our needs appear to be met but really aren't. Appearances can take over.
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Like Soronel, I believe WindowEyes doesn't come close to JAWS. We have to watch developments closely to protect our interests.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Peter_Logan@... Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:44 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS I understand that ... I was just suggesting that maybe MS is doing this to at least begin to take accessibility seriously ... Obviously Narrator isn't going to ever be anything like Jaws or WE .. From: Judith Bron <jbron@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>, Date: 01/15/2014 10:40 AM Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS Sent by: "Jfw" <jfw-bounces@...> But the voice over on the mac doesn't offer the same flexability as jaws. It's very basic as a screen reader. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Peter_Logan@... Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS May be a way for MS to eventually include accessibility with the OS ... Similar to Voice Over on the Mac ... From: "Michael Malver" <mmalver@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>, Date: 01/15/2014 10:26 AM Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS Sent by: "Jfw" <jfw-bounces@...> It may be that with what window eyes has done, there will be so many people using office that GW Micro will be forced to devoting time and resources it would otherwise put toward supporting applications to ensuring its Windows and Office support. JAWS could then focus more on supporting non-office application such as visual studio, music editing and creation packages, the whole rest of the software world. I think jaws has a large enough user base that it won't be going away anytime soon. People could download NVDA for free before this announcement. What effect did that have on JAWS? TO me, a more interesting question might be whether computer producers who sell new machines with bundled software, including trial versions of office, now bundle it with WindowEyes? Will educational institutions, now realizing they can install window eyes on machine running office, bail on JAWS? These are questions I wonder about. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201401 15/8f1340c8/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 29162 bytes Desc: not available URL: < http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201401 15/8f1340c8/attachment.jpe> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140115/8f4cf844/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 29162 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140115/8f4cf844/attachment.jpe> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: The Future of JAWS
Michael Mote
I wonder if this is a move out of desperation on the part of GW Micro. Have
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they seen such a decline of new licenses that they are trying anything to be competitive. That's just an observation. Michael makes a great point about educational institutions who would like to offer assistive technology to their students more easily. Looks like their problem just got a lot easier to solve from a cost prospective. It's probably going to cost less to purchase ten licenses for Office 2010, than it would be to purchase the same number of JAWS licenses. Personally, I think it's good to have competition in the market place. The question is can we really say that there is a competition anymore between these two companies. Most blind people I talk to, either use JAWS or NVDA. Very few use Window Eyes.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Malver Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:25 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS It may be that with what window eyes has done, there will be so many people using office that GW Micro will be forced to devoting time and resources it would otherwise put toward supporting applications to ensuring its Windows and Office support. JAWS could then focus more on supporting non-office application such as visual studio, music editing and creation packages, the whole rest of the software world. I think jaws has a large enough user base that it won't be going away anytime soon. People could download NVDA for free before this announcement. What effect did that have on JAWS? TO me, a more interesting question might be whether computer producers who sell new machines with bundled software, including trial versions of office, now bundle it with WindowEyes? Will educational institutions, now realizing they can install window eyes on machine running office, bail on JAWS? These are questions I wonder about. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: The Future of JAWS
Peter_Logan@...
I understand that ... I was just suggesting that maybe MS is doing this
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to at least begin to take accessibility seriously ... Obviously Narrator isn't going to ever be anything like Jaws or WE .. From: Judith Bron <jbron@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>, Date: 01/15/2014 10:40 AM Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS Sent by: "Jfw" <jfw-bounces@...> But the voice over on the mac doesn't offer the same flexability as jaws. It's very basic as a screen reader.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Peter_Logan@... Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS May be a way for MS to eventually include accessibility with the OS ... Similar to Voice Over on the Mac ... From: "Michael Malver" <mmalver@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>, Date: 01/15/2014 10:26 AM Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS Sent by: "Jfw" <jfw-bounces@...> It may be that with what window eyes has done, there will be so many people using office that GW Micro will be forced to devoting time and resources it would otherwise put toward supporting applications to ensuring its Windows and Office support. JAWS could then focus more on supporting non-office application such as visual studio, music editing and creation packages, the whole rest of the software world. I think jaws has a large enough user base that it won't be going away anytime soon. People could download NVDA for free before this announcement. What effect did that have on JAWS? TO me, a more interesting question might be whether computer producers who sell new machines with bundled software, including trial versions of office, now bundle it with WindowEyes? Will educational institutions, now realizing they can install window eyes on machine running office, bail on JAWS? These are questions I wonder about. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201401 15/8f1340c8/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 29162 bytes Desc: not available URL: < http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201401 15/8f1340c8/attachment.jpe> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140115/8f4cf844/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 29162 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140115/8f4cf844/attachment.jpe>
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Re: The Future of JAWS
Adrian Spratt
Michael, I like your optimism. However, if I'm not mistaken, the biggest buyer of JAWS is the federal government, followed by other levels of government. Laws require government agencies to select the lowest bidder, all things being roughly equal. These agencies have little choice but to buy MS Office, so now G.W. Micro has given them little choice but to select WindowEyes because it won't hurt their budgets one iota. I'd hate to be the government employee who had to try explaining to his or her bosses why JAWS is so superior that it's worth paying thousands of dollars for. This is a shrewd business move by G.W. Micro.
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I also worry that its contract with MS will reduce the incentive to keep on top of developments in the software world. Like Gerald, I'll be curious to find out how FS responds, which it must.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Malver Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:25 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS It may be that with what window eyes has done, there will be so many people using office that GW Micro will be forced to devoting time and resources it would otherwise put toward supporting applications to ensuring its Windows and Office support. JAWS could then focus more on supporting non-office application such as visual studio, music editing and creation packages, the whole rest of the software world. I think jaws has a large enough user base that it won't be going away anytime soon. People could download NVDA for free before this announcement. What effect did that have on JAWS? TO me, a more interesting question might be whether computer producers who sell new machines with bundled software, including trial versions of office, now bundle it with WindowEyes? Will educational institutions, now realizing they can install window eyes on machine running office, bail on JAWS? These are questions I wonder about. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: The Future of JAWS
judith bron
But the voice over on the mac doesn't offer the same flexability as jaws.
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It's very basic as a screen reader.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Peter_Logan@... Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS May be a way for MS to eventually include accessibility with the OS ... Similar to Voice Over on the Mac ... From: "Michael Malver" <mmalver@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>, Date: 01/15/2014 10:26 AM Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS Sent by: "Jfw" <jfw-bounces@...> It may be that with what window eyes has done, there will be so many people using office that GW Micro will be forced to devoting time and resources it would otherwise put toward supporting applications to ensuring its Windows and Office support. JAWS could then focus more on supporting non-office application such as visual studio, music editing and creation packages, the whole rest of the software world. I think jaws has a large enough user base that it won't be going away anytime soon. People could download NVDA for free before this announcement. What effect did that have on JAWS? TO me, a more interesting question might be whether computer producers who sell new machines with bundled software, including trial versions of office, now bundle it with WindowEyes? Will educational institutions, now realizing they can install window eyes on machine running office, bail on JAWS? These are questions I wonder about. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201401 15/8f1340c8/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 29162 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201401 15/8f1340c8/attachment.jpe> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: The Future of JAWS
Peter_Logan@...
May be a way for MS to eventually include accessibility with the OS ...
Similar to Voice Over on the Mac ... From: "Michael Malver" <mmalver@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>, Date: 01/15/2014 10:26 AM Subject: RE: The Future of JAWS Sent by: "Jfw" <jfw-bounces@...> It may be that with what window eyes has done, there will be so many people using office that GW Micro will be forced to devoting time and resources it would otherwise put toward supporting applications to ensuring its Windows and Office support. JAWS could then focus more on supporting non-office application such as visual studio, music editing and creation packages, the whole rest of the software world. I think jaws has a large enough user base that it won't be going away anytime soon. People could download NVDA for free before this announcement. What effect did that have on JAWS? TO me, a more interesting question might be whether computer producers who sell new machines with bundled software, including trial versions of office, now bundle it with WindowEyes? Will educational institutions, now realizing they can install window eyes on machine running office, bail on JAWS? These are questions I wonder about. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140115/8f1340c8/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 29162 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140115/8f1340c8/attachment.jpe>
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Re: The Future of JAWS
Soronel Haetir
Well, since I've tried the 60-day WindowEyes trial twice over the last
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few years (once with WE 7.5 and then again with WE 8) and found it very lacking both times I don't see myself switching without vast improvement on WindowEyes' part. Maybe working with MS will give GWMicro enough capital that they can make those improvements, maybe not. I am a little surprised actually that MS would go to GW rather than putting whatever money (I am assuming that in order for this to make business sense on GW's part that MS forked over a bundle of cash) is involved here toward NVDA. Even though I didn't care for the folks developing NVDA my experience is that NVDA is already a better product than WE.
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Re: The Future of JAWS
Michael Malver
It may be that with what window eyes has done, there will be so many people
using office that GW Micro will be forced to devoting time and resources it would otherwise put toward supporting applications to ensuring its Windows and Office support. JAWS could then focus more on supporting non-office application such as visual studio, music editing and creation packages, the whole rest of the software world. I think jaws has a large enough user base that it won't be going away anytime soon. People could download NVDA for free before this announcement. What effect did that have on JAWS? TO me, a more interesting question might be whether computer producers who sell new machines with bundled software, including trial versions of office, now bundle it with WindowEyes? Will educational institutions, now realizing they can install window eyes on machine running office, bail on JAWS? These are questions I wonder about.
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Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws
Michael Baldwin
Yes, the online does, but I just do that part in Firefox and the webvisum
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Vicky Collins Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 22:37 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Does the Tax Act Online version have one of those captcha things? I've been using the download version for over ten years now; and, fortunately, it has so far had no captcha. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Baldwin" <mbaldwin577@... To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@... Date sent: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:24:18 -0600 Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Been using tax act online for several years with no issues. I have not checked it out for this year. Use to use Turbotax online, but that got to where some parts were not screen reader friendly. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar" Carlson Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 16:07 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Taxacts works the best for having it installed on your PC. I don't know how accessible others are when using them on line. Dave Carlson San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and woodworker. dgcarlson@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@... To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@... Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Hi, It's that time of year again and I wonder which is the best program to do your own taxes since I can't afford accountants that also is Jaws friendly? I need to file the federal and New York State and city. Sincerely, Lauren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachm ents/201401 12/99223ae6/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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The Future of JAWS
Gerald Levy
As many of you may have learned from other lists, Freedom Scientific's main rival in the commercial screen reader market has announced that it will offer its screen reader absolutely free and unrestricted to users with licensed versions of Windows Office 2010 and higher. How will this development affect us JAWS users? Will hordes of JAWS users flock to the competition and force JAWS into oblivion? Will FS be forced to make a counter move and offer JAWS for free on a similar basis to remain viabole? In short, what is the future of JAWS in light of this stunning announcement, and do we loyal JAWS users have any cause for concern?
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Re: Yahoo Mail Accessibility
Marsha <marcatony@...>
hi
I just thought I would let all who are interested know about changes to yahoo plus, which used to cost $19.95 a year. It is changing to Yahoo Premium and the cost is going up to $49.95. With this program, you are able to send your Yahoo messages to your E-Mail provider. I don't know what other things are included in this massive price increase. I have been using it for almost 10 years. I am not happy with this at all. Marsha
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Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws
Dave...
Sort of, but not like changing a number on a form. You'll need to enter the
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wizard at the appropriate point and step through to make the change. Trying to change the number on the represented form on the screen is pretty hard to do unless you have sight. Dave Carlson San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and woodworker. dgcarlson@...
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From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:36 PM Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Is it easy to make changes once you input the information? Sincerely, Lauren -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar" Carlson Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:43 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws The download paid version will not use a captcha, since you provide the authentication before you file your returns. Still a very good deal, and works quite well with JAWS, as long as you don't try to edit the actual graphical forms, but stick to the input wizard. Dave Carlson San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and woodworker. dgcarlson@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicky Collins" <v-collins@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:37 PM Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Does the Tax Act Online version have one of those captcha things? I've been using the download version for over ten years now; and, fortunately, it has so far had no captcha. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Baldwin" <mbaldwin577@... To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@... Date sent: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:24:18 -0600 Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Been using tax act online for several years with no issues. I have not checked it out for this year. Use to use Turbotax online, but that got to where some parts were not screen reader friendly. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar" Carlson Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 16:07 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Taxacts works the best for having it installed on your PC. I don't know how accessible others are when using them on line. Dave Carlson San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and woodworker. dgcarlson@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@... To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@... Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Hi, It's that time of year again and I wonder which is the best program to do your own taxes since I can't afford accountants that also is Jaws friendly? I need to file the federal and New York State and city. Sincerely, Lauren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachm ents/201401 12/99223ae6/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws
Lauren
Is it easy to make changes once you input the information?
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Sincerely, Lauren
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar" Carlson Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:43 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws The download paid version will not use a captcha, since you provide the authentication before you file your returns. Still a very good deal, and works quite well with JAWS, as long as you don't try to edit the actual graphical forms, but stick to the input wizard. Dave Carlson San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and woodworker. dgcarlson@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicky Collins" <v-collins@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:37 PM Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Does the Tax Act Online version have one of those captcha things? I've been using the download version for over ten years now; and, fortunately, it has so far had no captcha. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Baldwin" <mbaldwin577@... To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@... Date sent: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:24:18 -0600 Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Been using tax act online for several years with no issues. I have not checked it out for this year. Use to use Turbotax online, but that got to where some parts were not screen reader friendly. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar" Carlson Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 16:07 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Taxacts works the best for having it installed on your PC. I don't know how accessible others are when using them on line. Dave Carlson San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and woodworker. dgcarlson@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@... To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@... Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Hi, It's that time of year again and I wonder which is the best program to do your own taxes since I can't afford accountants that also is Jaws friendly? I need to file the federal and New York State and city. Sincerely, Lauren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachm ents/201401 12/99223ae6/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Jaws Scripts for Yahoo Instant Messenger
Sirena <sieradream@...>
Google Jaws scripts for yahoo messenger. It's the second or so website. JawsaRooney or something like that.
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Flash-based Chat Rooms
Sirena <sieradream@...>
Hey guys. Has anyone figured out an accessible way around flash-based chat rooms?
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Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws
Dave...
The download paid version will not use a captcha, since you provide the
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authentication before you file your returns. Still a very good deal, and works quite well with JAWS, as long as you don't try to edit the actual graphical forms, but stick to the input wizard. Dave Carlson San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and woodworker. dgcarlson@...
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From: "Vicky Collins" <v-collins@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:37 PM Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Does the Tax Act Online version have one of those captcha things? I've been using the download version for over ten years now; and, fortunately, it has so far had no captcha. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Baldwin" <mbaldwin577@... To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@... Date sent: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:24:18 -0600 Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Been using tax act online for several years with no issues. I have not checked it out for this year. Use to use Turbotax online, but that got to where some parts were not screen reader friendly. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar" Carlson Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 16:07 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Taxacts works the best for having it installed on your PC. I don't know how accessible others are when using them on line. Dave Carlson San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and woodworker. dgcarlson@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@... To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@... Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Hi, It's that time of year again and I wonder which is the best program to do your own taxes since I can't afford accountants that also is Jaws friendly? I need to file the federal and New York State and city. Sincerely, Lauren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachm ents/201401 12/99223ae6/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws
Vicky Collins
Does the Tax Act Online version have one of those captcha things? I've been using the download version for over ten years now; and, fortunately, it has so far had no captcha.
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From: "Michael Baldwin" <mbaldwin577@... To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@... Date sent: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:24:18 -0600 Subject: RE: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Been using tax act online for several years with no issues. I have not checked it out for this year. Use to use Turbotax online, but that got to where some parts were not screen reader friendly. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar" Carlson Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 16:07 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Taxacts works the best for having it installed on your PC. I don't know how accessible others are when using them on line. Dave Carlson San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and woodworker. dgcarlson@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@... To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@... Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: best tax filing program that works with Jaws Hi, It's that time of year again and I wonder which is the best program to do your own taxes since I can't afford accountants that also is Jaws friendly? I need to file the federal and New York State and city. Sincerely, Lauren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachm ents/201401 12/99223ae6/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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