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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Cristóbal
 

Using Spanish for the accented á, é, í, etc. I press the control+insert
(caps locks works too) and apostrophy then the letter I wish to have
accented.
I do translation work and use the above method as well as the alt+numbers
previously mentioned.
I would have to imagine that it is a similar scenario for other languages in
conjuntion with the enabling of regional languages and keyboards and whatnot
if you don't want to use the left alt+shift toggle for switching between
different keyboard layouts.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

Tony,

Yes, but that's frankly a real pain in the kiester. The Swedish special
characters are used in many words, and pausing to type a 4-digit code each
time is not a good solution.

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony" <Tony@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters


You can enter any character by holding down an ALT key and entering the 4
digit numeric code on the keypad, not the top row.

If you have a document with the character you can find the code by quickly
pressing the number 5 on the keypad 3 times with jaws. There should be a
similar method with windoweyes. Otherwise, look for a list of codes on the
web,.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar"
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list. There are
6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typical
US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the character
map application, type "character map" into the search bar (if running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", i
forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the
degrees
symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have seen
references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is not
its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Soronel Haetir
 

No, that behavior (needing to run the editor elevated) is dependent on
the version of windows involved not the version of jaws.

You might also be able to get away with moving all the vkeyboard.*
files to your jaws user directory from the shared directory
(\<UserDir>\<UserProfile>\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<language>\vkeyboard.* instead of
\<userDir>\All Users\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\Settings\<llanguage>\vkeyboard.*), if you
did that then there would be no need for an elevated editor session
but jaws might have some other problem with it that I am not thinking
of.

On 10/17/13, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Soronel,

Thanks for the tips.

You wrote: "One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will need to
start
the editor session elevated if running on vista or later."

How about if I ran a lower version of JAWS to allow editing the file for my

current version?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


Yes, edit the file \<UsersDir>\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\<language>\VKeyboard.jsm

On windows vista and 7 (don't know for certain about 8 but would expect it

to follow the same pattern), <UsersDir> is \Users, while on XP it is
\Documents and Settings
You will need to edit the value for "symbol", but I am not sure what
is up with the 4 description variables, you'll need to look through
vkeyboard.jss to figure that out.

One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will need to start
the editor session elevated if running on vista or later.

On 10/17/13, Dave "Farfar" Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list. There
are

6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typical
US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the character
map application, type "character map" into the search bar (if running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", i
forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the
degrees
symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have
seen
references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is
not
its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Dave...
 

Soronel,

Thanks for the tips.

You wrote: "One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will need to
start
the editor session elevated if running on vista or later."

How about if I ran a lower version of JAWS to allow editing the file for my
current version?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


Yes, edit the file \<UsersDir>\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\<language>\VKeyboard.jsm

On windows vista and 7 (don't know for certain about 8 but would expect it
to follow the same pattern), <UsersDir> is \Users, while on XP it is
\Documents and Settings
You will need to edit the value for "symbol", but I am not sure what
is up with the 4 description variables, you'll need to look through
vkeyboard.jss to figure that out.

One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will need to start
the editor session elevated if running on vista or later.

On 10/17/13, Dave "Farfar" Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list. There
are

6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typical
US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the character
map application, type "character map" into the search bar (if running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", i
forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the
degrees
symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have
seen
references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is not
its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Dave...
 

Tony,

Yes, but that's frankly a real pain in the kiester. The Swedish special
characters are used in many words, and pausing to type a 4-digit code each
time is not a good solution.

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony" <Tony@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: inserting non-standard characters


You can enter any character by holding down an ALT key and entering the 4
digit numeric code on the keypad, not the top row.

If you have a document with the character you can find the code by quickly
pressing the number 5 on the keypad 3 times with jaws. There should be a
similar method with windoweyes. Otherwise, look for a list of codes on the
web,.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar"
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list. There are
6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typical
US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the character
map application, type "character map" into the search bar (if running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", i
forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the
degrees
symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have seen
references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is not
its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Soronel Haetir
 

Yes, edit the file \<UsersDir>\Freedom
Scientific\Jaws\<version>\<language>\VKeyboard.jsm

On windows vista and 7 (don't know for certain about 8 but would expect it to follow the same pattern), <UsersDir> is \Users, while on XP it is \Documents and Settings
You will need to edit the value for "symbol", but I am not sure what
is up with the 4 description variables, you'll need to look through
vkeyboard.jss to figure that out.

One other thing, in order to edit that file, you will need to start
the editor session elevated if running on vista or later.

On 10/17/13, Dave "Farfar" Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list. There are

6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typical
US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the character
map application, type "character map" into the search bar (if running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", i
forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the
degrees
symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have
seen
references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is not
its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Tony
 

You can enter any character by holding down an ALT key and entering the 4
digit numeric code on the keypad, not the top row.

If you have a document with the character you can find the code by quickly
pressing the number 5 on the keypad 3 times with jaws. There should be a
similar method with windoweyes. Otherwise, look for a list of codes on the
web,.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave "Farfar"
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters

Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list. There are
6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typical
US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the character
map application, type "character map" into the search bar (if running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", i
forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the
degrees
symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have seen
references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is not
its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: Microsoft Essentials works fine

Adrian Spratt
 

Thanks to you and Stuart. I meant to credit Dean Martineau. The link came from his newsletter today.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of john.falter
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:21 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Microsoft Essentials works fine

Hi Adrian:
Thanks for finding and passing along this article.
I've been happy with Microsoft Essentials and not interested in looking for
another protection product.
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:42 AM
Subject: Microsoft Essentials works fine


A long thread on this list was based on a misguided report claiming that MS
has given up on MSE. The following article debunks the claim:
http://askleo.com/do-i-need-to-stop-using-microsoft-security-essentials/
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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Dave...
 

Soronel,

Some time back I saw a message instructing how to edit this list. There are
6 characters for the Swedish alphabet that I'd like to insert. Any ideas?

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area Farfar, woodworker, and musician
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: inserting non-standard characters


If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typical
US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the character
map application, type "character map" into the search bar (if running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", i
forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the
degrees
symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have seen
references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is not
its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: facebook

O.Addison Gethers
 

Have you try to use the mobile facebook site which it's accessible with jaws ? Most of the time jaws doesn't read the main facebook properly !! If you want to try the mobile facebook then you can go to http//:m.facebook.com

O. Addison Gethers

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From: Drew Hunthausen
To: Jaws list
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:09 AM
Subject: facebook


Dear list,

Has anyone else experienced a problem with the facebook main page in the
last day or so? It seems to keep jumping around when I try to read with
arrow keys and I can't get anywhere. thanks



Drew Hunthausen 714 296-7111



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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Soronel Haetir
 

If you hit jaws+4 it will bring up a list of some symbols.

In MS Word at least (probably all MS office applications), as well as
WordPad you can get accented letters by typing ctrl+accent-key,
regular-key,

So for instance to type ñ in those programs you can type (on a typical
US keyboard layout): ctrl+shift+` then 'n'

Or to get é you type ctrl+' then e.

That behavior is specific to those MS programs however, it does not
work in notepad for instance, or in Firefox where I am typing this
message (I used the jaws+4 dialog to produce the couple accented
characters here).

For characters you can't find this way there is always the character
map application, type "character map" into the search bar (if running
windows vista or newer), or find it under Start->All
Programs->Accessories->System tools.

On older versions of windows "All Programs" may simply be "Programs", i forget.

On 10/17/13, TerriLynne Pomeroy <shateamo@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the
degrees
symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have seen
references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is not
its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: Microsoft Essentials works fine

john.falter
 

Hi Adrian:
Thanks for finding and passing along this article.
I've been happy with Microsoft Essentials and not interested in looking for
another protection product.

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:42 AM
Subject: Microsoft Essentials works fine


A long thread on this list was based on a misguided report claiming that MS
has given up on MSE. The following article debunks the claim:
http://askleo.com/do-i-need-to-stop-using-microsoft-security-essentials/
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Re: inserting non-standard characters

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

You need to know the code for any character. For instance, the ° symbol is
248, while ½ is 0189. Hold down the Alt key and type the code on your number
keypad, not the numbers above the letters. This will help you to access the
codes. There's no way to correct a mistake or typo when you're typing this,
so if you hit a wrong number you'll need to stop, backspace to remove what
you just created, and then try again.
There's a whole different set of commands for doing this on a Mac, and I
don't know those.
Also note that if you type a number, then the degrees symbol, then the
letter F or C, some screen readers (Jaws definitely does this) will turn
that into "degrees Fahrenheit" for you.
You can find a list of the codes by doing a search on your favorite search
engine on ASCII+keyboard+codes. There will be some blanks, as I've yet to
find a screen reader that identifies all of these codes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: inserting non-standard characters

Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the
degrees symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages.
I have seen references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit
f5, that is not its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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inserting non-standard characters

Terrilynne
 

Can anyone tell me how to insert non-standard characters such as the degrees
symbol, the ½ symbol, or accented letters for other languages. I have seen
references to using the f5 key to do this, but when I hit f5, that is not
its purpose.



Is there something special that needs to be done with JAWS?



Thanks much,



TerriLynne

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Re: windows 8.1 and what is windows live writer

Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Hi, I think it will be out tomorrow. But I'm not sure if you can get
it under windows update or if you have to go to the not very
accessible windows store. I don't have a store acount, so I hope there
is a better way of getting it. Jaws 14 should work with it, maybe even
perform much better. Although if you plan to go to jaws 15, its rather
better to get the update beforehand and then jaws 15 later. Hope
someone can supply more accurate info.

On 17/10/2013, Lauren <lotusrising@...> wrote:
Hi:



I heard windows 8.1 is out today; if you have Windows 8, is that free or do
you have to buy it? Does anyone know if Jaws 14 works with it?



Also, what is windows live writer?







Sincerely,



Lauren



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windows 8.1 and what is windows live writer

Lauren
 

Hi:



I heard windows 8.1 is out today; if you have Windows 8, is that free or do
you have to buy it? Does anyone know if Jaws 14 works with it?



Also, what is windows live writer?







Sincerely,



Lauren



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Re: Microsoft Essentials works fine

cecropia64
 

Thanks for the link to that informative article Adrian. It answered the questions I had.

Stewart

On 10/17/2013 5:42 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
A long thread on this list was based on a misguided report claiming that MS has given up on MSE. The following article debunks the claim:
http://askleo.com/do-i-need-to-stop-using-microsoft-security-essentials/
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Microsoft Essentials works fine

Adrian Spratt
 

A long thread on this list was based on a misguided report claiming that MS has given up on MSE. The following article debunks the claim:
http://askleo.com/do-i-need-to-stop-using-microsoft-security-essentials/
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facebook

Drew Hunthausen
 

Dear list,

Has anyone else experienced a problem with the facebook main page in the
last day or so? It seems to keep jumping around when I try to read with
arrow keys and I can't get anywhere. thanks



Drew Hunthausen 714 296-7111



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calendars in websites

cecropia64
 

Hi folks:

I'm having an issue with reading calendar places on websites, specifically pro flowers. It tells you to select a shipping date but when I hit enter, all I get is an edit spot. When I enter a date, nothing happens. Does anybody know how I can get around this? This seems to be an issue with all calendar related items on websites including banking sites.
Thanks

Stewart


calendars in websites

cecropia64
 

Hi folks:

I'm having an issue with reading calendar places on websites, specifically pro flowers. It tells you to select a shipping date but when I hit enter, all I get is an edit spot. When I enter a date, nothing happens. Does anybody know how I can get around this? This seems to be an issue with all calendar related items on websites including banking sites.
Thanks

Stewart

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