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Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>

#1936

transfer it?
Well, hit alt+enter on the Jaws 11 icon on your desktop, tab until you're in the shortcut key hotkey field and delete it. Then bring up the same properties for the Jaws 12 icon with alt+enter and input the hotkey you want to use to launch it, ctrl+alt+enter for example.

Personally, I have a hotkey for either so I can load 11 for some tasks and 12 for others.

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At 03:17 AM 8/20/2011, you wrote:
Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12 from Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier upgrades, and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut over to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my  questions lately.

Tom in Michigan

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Re: one more Jaws Activation question

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>

#1935

in a word, no.

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At 03:12 AM 8/20/2011, you wrote:
Hello again, everyone.

I successfully convinced the folks at FS to re-set my activation count back to 3, so it looks like I am now all set in that regard.

However, I have one more question about the activation process:

If I upgrade from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12 on a computer that already has Jaws 11, does the upgrade count against my number of available activations?  In other words, each time I upgrade from Jaws 11 to 12, do I loose an activation?

Thanks!

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Re: [Bulk] one more Jaws Activation question

Dave...

#1934

Tom,

"If I upgrade from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12 on a computer that already has Jaws 
11,
does the upgrade count against my number of available activations?  In other
words, each time I upgrade from Jaws 11 to 12, do I loose an activation?"

No.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll 
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 0:12
Subject: [Bulk] one more Jaws Activation question


Hello again, everyone.

I successfully convinced the folks at FS to re-set my activation count back
to 3, so it looks like I am now all set in that regard.

However, I have one more question about the activation process:

If I upgrade from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12 on a computer that already has Jaws 11,
does the upgrade count against my number of available activations?  In other
words, each time I upgrade from Jaws 11 to 12, do I loose an activation?

Thanks!

Tom in Michigan



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Re: Question on activation count

Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...>

#1933

Well:
If they did ,  then I' am glad so.
Don't give them the opportunity to take advantage of the situations by proposing that you may purchase a dongle if you will need more than  three machines to be up and running at a time.
Mostafa Al'mahdy , Egyptian Citizen.
skype:
mostafa-the-speaker
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   Well, interestingly, they re-set my activation count to 3, and I already have Jaws going on this computer, so next week may tell the story.

Tom from Michigan

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From: "Mostafa Al'mahdy" <mostafa.almahdy@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

I think  in this case , you may need to acquire a dongle as an alternative , and that's probably what Freedom Scientific will propose.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   Gerald:

Not so fast there!

I work as a college professor, and need a PC for my normal office work, and a laptop when in the classroom or when traveling.

So, that's two computers for work.

Then, at home, I have my main PC, but like to have a back-up, just in case I experience a
system crash like I did a few weeks ago.

So, I use three computers mainly in my personal and professional life, but have the fourth as a back-up to call into service as needed.

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers.    This is absurd.  Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,

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On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of  new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed aswell.

I have Jaws 12, but a few  earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to workwith.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan

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Re: Question on activation count

Tom Behler

#1932

Well, interestingly, they re-set my activation count to 3, and I already have Jaws going on this computer, so next week may tell the story.

Tom from Michigan

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mostafa Al'mahdy" <mostafa.almahdy@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

I think  in this case , you may need to acquire a dongle as an alternative , and that's probably what Freedom Scientific will propose.
Best Wishs.
It's always hope that gives meaning to life.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   Gerald:

Not so fast there!

I work as a college professor, and need a PC for my normal office work, and a laptop when in the classroom or when traveling.

So, that's two computers for work.

Then, at home, I have my main PC, but like to have a back-up, just in case I experience a
system crash like I did a few weeks ago.

So, I use three computers mainly in my personal and professional life, but have the fourth as a back-up to call into service as needed.

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers.    This is absurd.  Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of  new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed aswell.

I have Jaws 12, but a few  earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to workwith.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan

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Re: Need Settings for optimizing Jaws in Windows 7

Tom Behler

#1931

Yes:  I appreciate both David, and this list!

Hopefully, I'll be able to reciprocate by helping others someday.

Tom in Michigan

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From: "Morey Worthington" <Mossback7569@sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Need Settings for optimizing Jaws in Windows 7

I agree with your words about David and his help. I have not used  any of his help yet, but I probably will in the future. As you said, nice to have have a knowledgeable person close by, and one who wants to helpalso.
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Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

Tom Behler

#1930

And, am I correct that you have to remove all previous alt control J shortcuts from both the desktop and start menu?

This is where I think I got into a problem once earlier.

Tom from Michigan

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

Tom,

I've always found it advantageous to re-create this shortcut for any new
version. Like many JAWS users, I have a few versions on my system because
later ones broke what previously worked. Each time I install a new version
(i.e., 10, 11, 12), I assign the j shortcut to it and reassign other
shortcuts to older versions.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:18 AM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12 from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my  questions lately.

Tom in Michigan

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Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

Tom Behler

#1929

Mike:

This helps a great deal.

Thanks so much for the quick response.
I get my work laptop next week--i.e. a week before classes begin--so I need to have things up and running pretty quickly for my various classroom teaching activities and any upcoming travel.

Tom in Michigan

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From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke.  That is the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws.  What you need to do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to have
Jaws12 start automatically.  By checking this box in any version of Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke. Hope
this helps.  Take care.
Mike

 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Tom Behler
 To: Jaws users e-mail list
 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
 Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

 Hi, again.

 I just thought of one more question here.

 What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12
from
 Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

 I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
 and can't remember how to resolve it.

 All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut
over
 to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

 I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken
 care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

 Thanks for putting up with all my  questions lately.

 Tom in Michigan

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Re: Question on activation count

Mostafa Al'mahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...>

#1928

I think  in this case , you may need to acquire a dongle as an alternative , and that's probably what Freedom Scientific will propose.
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From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   Gerald:

Not so fast there!

I work as a college professor, and need a PC for my normal office work, and a laptop when in the classroom or when traveling.

So, that's two computers for work.

Then, at home, I have my main PC, but like to have a back-up, just in case I experience a
system crash like I did a few weeks ago.

So, I use three computers mainly in my personal and professional life, but have the fourth as a back-up to call into service as needed.

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use? The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers.    This is absurd.  Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,

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On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of  new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed aswell.

I have Jaws 12, but a few  earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to workwith.

Thanks!

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Re: one more Jaws Activation question

Tom Behler

#1927

Charles:

I did not speak to them about additional keys.

I did it on line.

Doing so was quicker for me than going through the phone call process.

Besides, does it really matter anyway?  (smile)

Tom in Michigan

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Coe" <charlesmar@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:32 AM
Subject: RE: one more Jaws Activation question

Hi,

Shouldn't you have Asked FS this question when you spoke to them about
adding more keys?

Just curious.

charles
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:12 AM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: one more Jaws Activation question

Hello again, everyone.

I successfully convinced the folks at FS to re-set my activation count back
to 3, so it looks like I am now all set in that regard.

However, I have one more question about the activation process:

If I upgrade from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12 on a computer that already has Jaws 11,
does the upgrade count against my number of available activations?  In other
words, each time I upgrade from Jaws 11 to 12, do I loose an activation?

Thanks!

Tom in Michigan

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Re: Question on activation count

Tom Behler

#1926

Gerald:

Not so fast there!

I work as a college professor, and need a PC for my normal office work, and a laptop when in the classroom or when traveling.

So, that's two computers for work.

Then, at home, I have my main PC, but like to have a back-up, just in case I experience a
system crash like I did a few weeks ago.

So, I use three computers mainly in my personal and professional life, but have the fourth as a back-up to call into service as needed.

Tom in Michigan

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use?  The people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a zillion computers.    This is absurd.  Any blind computer user who owns more than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of  new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed aswell.

I have Jaws 12, but a few  earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to workwith.

Thanks!

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Re: Need Settings for optimizing Jaws in Windows 7

Morey Worthington

#1925

I agree with your words about David and his help. I have not used  any of his help yet, but I probably will in the future. As you said, nice to have have a knowledgeable person close by, and one who wants to helpalso.
Morey Worthington

Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?

Kim Loftis <kll2277@...>

#1924

Hi Mike,

Thank you so much for throwing this suggestion out there!!  It actually works, at least when editing Wordpress pages in HTML mode... I haven't tried it for those other instances where I'm encountering application mode, but it solves my problem in this most important instance!

Thanks a million!

warmest,
Kim


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:27 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Important:  Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?

Hi Kim,

Another thing you can try in this situation is invoking the keystroke, Jaws 
Key + Z.  This toggles the virtual cursor key between off & auto.  This is 
only a suggestion.  I am not sure if this will help, but is worth a try. 
Take care.
Mike

 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Kim Loftis
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:43 PM
 Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?


 Hi Adrian and Mike,

 Well, unfortunately, Mike, your method didn't work for me... yes, 
applications mode would, in fact, go off, but keeps coming back on the next 
time I try to move my cursor or enter a key command.  Thanks so much for 
trying, though!  I really appreciate it.  *smile*

 Adrian, I sadly must agree with you regarding inconsistent methods here... 
I've tried everything, but to no real avail.  I appreciate knowing that 11 
seems to illiminate this issue, at least for you... very good to know.

 I apppreciate hearing about your experiences... they mirror mine, at least 
as far as Jaws 10 goes.  Anyway, thanks so much!

 Warmest,
 Kim


 --------------------------------------------------
 From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
 Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:30 PM
 To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
 Subject: RE: Important:  Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?

 > Kim and Mike,
 >
 > I hope this method works on these websites. When I used JAWS 10, I found
 > solutions inconsistent. On Yahoo Finance, for example, I had to locate 
the
 > toggle link for applications mode to turn it off.
 >
 > For me, the problem was completely eliminated in JAWS 11. I can't speak 
for
 > all webpages, but I've never encountered applications mode after JAWS 
10.
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com 
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
 > On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara In Arcadia
 > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:56 PM
 > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 > Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
 >
 > Hi Kim,
 >
 > You can disregard my last reply.  I found some laptop keystrokes in my
 > notes.  They are below.  What you want is the first 1.
 >
 > Laptop commands
 >
 > find the laptop keys for jaws
 >
 >
 >
 > PC Cursor
 >
 > CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON
 >
 >
 >
 > JAWS Cursor
 >
 > CAPS LOCK+P
 >
 >
 >
 > Invisible Cursor
 >
 > CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly
 >
 >
 >
 > Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor
 >
 > CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE
 >
 >
 >
 > Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor
 >
 > CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET
 >
 >
 >
 > Restrict JAWS Cursor
 >
 > CAPS LOCK+R
 >
 >
 >
 > Left Mouse Button
 >
 > CAPS LOCK+8
 >
 >
 >
 > Right Mouse Button
 >
 > CAPS LOCK+9
 >
 >
 >
 > Left Mouse Button Lock
 >
 > CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8
 >
 >
 >
 > Right Mouse Button Lock
 >
 > CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9
 >
 >
 >
 > Drag and Drop
 >
 > CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8
 >
 >
 >
 > Say Active Cursor
 >
 > ALT+DELETE
 >
 >
 >
 > Mouse Down
 >
 > ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
 >
 >
 >
 > Mouse Left
 >
 > ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW
 >
 >
 >
 > Mouse Right
 >
 > ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW
 >
 >
 >
 > Mouse Up
 >
 > ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW
 >
 >
 >
 > press capslock and P
 >
 > will switch to the jaws cursor
 >
 > press capslock and semi colon to switch back to the PC cursor.
 >
 >
 >
 > Hope this helps.  Take care.
 >
 > Mike
 >
 >
 >
 >  ----- Original Message -----
 >  From: Kim Loftis
 >  To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 >  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:34 PM
 >  Subject: Re: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
 >
 >
 >  Hi Mike,
 >
 >  Many thanks for that info!!  I'm using a laptop, though, so don't have 
a
 > separate number pad... any idea what the laptop keystroke may be?
 >
 >  Thanks again!
 >
 >  Warmest,
 >  Kim
 >
 >
 >  --------------------------------------------------
 >  From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
 >  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:30 PM
 >  To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
 >  Subject: Re: Important:  Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
 >
 >  > Hi Kim,
 >  >
 >  > Application mode is invoked by JAWS because the page is coded as an
 >  > application. This is done through HTML codes. Pressing numpad plus
 > brings
 >  > you back to
 >  > virtual mode and makes the page readable.  Hope this helps.  Take 
care.
 >  > Mike
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
 >  >  From: Kim Loftis
 >  >  To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 >  >  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:19 PM
 >  >  Subject: Important: Disabling Application Mode in Jaws 10?
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  Hi All,
 >  >
 >  >  On many pages using Jaws 10 and XP Pro, I'm running into the "app 
mode
 > on"
 >  > message from Jaws.  This is happening particularly with PayPal and on 
my
 >  > Wordpress site dashboard when editing content there.  When I run into
 > this
 >  > issue, it's pretty much impossible to access a page and issue any
 > commands,
 >  > enter any text, etc.
 >  >
 >  >  Is there any way to keep "app mode" from appearing, even 
temporarily.
 > I
 >  > desperately need to get these website pages edited, and this is 
giving
 > me a
 >  > real headache.
 >  >
 >  >  Any tips, suggestions or fixes would be tremendously appreciated!
 >  >
 >  >  Many thanks in advance!
 >  >
 >  >  Warmest,
 >  >  Kim
 >
 >
 >
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Re: ResearchIt Stock Quotes Broken - Confirmed by FS

Brandon McGinty

#1923

Folks,
If the quotes are useful to enough people, I'll work on a qry file for ResearchIt, to pull the quotes from a more...stable...source, such as Google's backend.
I'd appreciate a shout off-list if you would wish me to work on this, and have it presentable by the end of the weekend.

Brandon McGinty-Carroll
brandon.mcginty@gmail.com

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On 8/20/2011 8:22 AM, Howard wrote:
hi dave:
now you know what it is like for we sports fans.


howard wolcott

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:22 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: ResearchIt Stock Quotes Broken - Confirmed by FS

David,

And where is the quote for IBM? All you got was Dow Jones and S&P 500.

Not there!

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 14:17
Subject: RE: ResearchIt Stock Quotes Broken - Confirmed by FS


Hello here's what I got,
And I'm using the latest update of jaws;


From research it,

IBM;

Stock Quotes
IBM stock quote - International Business Machines Corporation Dow Jones
Industrial Average:
10,817.65
Down 172.93(1.57%)
S&P500:
1,123.53
Down 17.12%

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:01 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: ResearchIt Stock Quotes Broken - Confirmed by FS

Just got off my second call to FS Tech Support.

Yep. Does not work.

Now we're really in trouble.

Dave Carlson
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comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But
I'll
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Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

Adrian Spratt

#1922

Tom,

I've always found it advantageous to re-create this shortcut for any new
version. Like many JAWS users, I have a few versions on my system because
later ones broke what previously worked. Each time I install a new version
(i.e., 10, 11, 12), I assign the j shortcut to it and reassign other
shortcuts to older versions.

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:18 AM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12 from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my  questions lately.

Tom in Michigan

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thunder bird:

Kenny Peyattt jr.

#1921

Hi nikki To use the new thunder with jaws 12 you will need to download the jaws 12 update that was released this month.
Kenny Peyatt

Re: ResearchIt Stock Quotes Broken - Confirmed by FS

Howard <hwolcott@...>

#1920

hi dave:
now you know what it is like for we sports fans.


howard wolcott

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:22 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: ResearchIt Stock Quotes Broken - Confirmed by FS

David,

And where is the quote for IBM? All you got was Dow Jones and S&P 500.

Not there!

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 14:17
Subject: RE: ResearchIt Stock Quotes Broken - Confirmed by FS


Hello here's what I got,
And I'm using the latest update of jaws;


From research it,

IBM;

Stock Quotes
IBM stock quote - International Business Machines Corporation Dow Jones
Industrial Average:
10,817.65
Down 172.93(1.57%)
S&P500:
1,123.53
Down 17.12%

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:01 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: ResearchIt Stock Quotes Broken - Confirmed by FS

Just got off my second call to FS Tech Support.

Yep. Does not work.

Now we're really in trouble.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.


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Re: Question on activation count

Adi Kushnir <adikushnir@...>

#1919

What I think would be best for them to do, cell the dongles with the same
price as the ILM and stop the ILM method.
The dongle one is easier in my own opinion.

Adi.

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 2:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

In my case I haven't had as many activations as FS claims. I only use JAWS
on both of my PCs and no where else. The only times I've had activations has
been when I've restored my PC back and fitted new hardware. Some of the
times I've restored my PC back has been due to issues with JAWS and trying
to resolve them. A more sensible approach from FS would be to have JAWS send
once a day a message to FS giving the IP address of the computer then they
would be able to see that it was being used in the location it was intended
for and wouldn't be an issue. For those who don't want FS to have that
information they can just remain as they are.

We pay a lot of money for the software to say the least. I appreciate FS
want to protect themselves from piracy but I am sure that such a strict
policy on activations is what has caused some to go down the route of piracy
(mine is a fully paid for version and I do not condone piracy in the
slightest).

Peter

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use?  The
people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a
zillion computers.    This is absurd.  Any blind computer user who owns more
than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the 
unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of  new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed aswell.

I have Jaws 12, but a few  earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to workwith.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan

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Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>

#1918

Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke.  That is the 
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws.  What you need to do is 
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box to have 
Jaws12 start automatically.  By checking this box in any version of Jaws, 
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut keystroke.  Hope 
this helps.  Take care.
Mike

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----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Behler
  To: Jaws users e-mail list
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
  Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws 12

  Hi, again.

  I just thought of one more question here.

  What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws 12 
from
  Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

  I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier 
upgrades,
  and can't remember how to resolve it.

  All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the shortcut 
over
  to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

  I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have taken
  care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

  Thanks for putting up with all my  questions lately.

  Tom in Michigan

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Re: Question on activation count

Adi Kushnir <adikushnir@...>

#1917

Can some one check with FS and tell us here how the price would be if
pearchising a dongle instead of an ILM license?
I have a dongle because this is the only option with the Hebrew version of
JFW in Israel but I'm not limited to activations and the dongle could be
used with any JAWS version/language.
I can transfer the dongle freely from one computer to the other without
anything.

Thank you,

Adi.

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 2:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Why does anyone need more than one or two computers for personal use?  The
people who run into problems with their activation counts seem to own a 
zillion computers.    This is absurd.  Any blind computer user who owns more

than two computers deserves to be scrutinized by FS.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Steve, a small objection from one who has requested new activations only
twice in nearly two decades. Agreed, requesting a lot of activations could
indicate usage outside the terms of our agreement with FS. However, it's
clear that many people here need activations for reasons to do with the
number of systems they have, the hardware upgrades they install, the
occasional mistakes they make, and so on. FS has a right to protect its
revenue source, but it does come at a cost to customers of the 
unrestricted
use of a program we paid generously for.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

Very good as long as you don't ask for an increase in counts on a weekend
and as long as you aren't abusing it by asking for a lot of key recount
increases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Question on activation count

   That's what I thought, so my next question is "How liberal is FS
when it comes to getting your activation count re-set if needed?

Tom in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Question on activation count

Hello there;

No, you will only receive 3
Regardless of which version you use,

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Question on activation count

Hi, all.

I'm between computers here, and have a question about Jaws activation
counts.

I know I could call FS about this, but figured I might get a quicker
answer from the list.

Regarding activations, does a single-license Jaws user like myself
have a given number of activations for each separate version of Jaws,
or is the allotted number of 3 activations constant across all
versions of Jaws collectively?

I am getting a couple of  new computers set up for both office and
home, and

am trying to figure out how best to proceed, while still keeping an
older Windows XP machine around as a back-up in case that is needed aswell.

I have Jaws 12, but a few  earlier versions of Jaws that I could
probably use if neded, if that would give me more activations to workwith.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan

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