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Re: Removing And Adding Programs To Start Menu

Tom Behler
 

Mike:

All worked here, so thanks very much.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike B." <mb69mach1@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Removing And Adding Programs To Start Menu


Hi Tom,

Try the following to add a shortcut to the start menu:
1. Highlight the Jaws14 shortcut on the desktop.
2. Press your applications key or press, shift + F10 if it's a laptop Or you
don't have an applications key to open the context menu.
3. Arrow down to the, Send To, submenu & press enter to open.
4. Arrow down to, Start Menu, & press enter. This sends a copyy of the
desktop shortcut to the start menu.

Now open your start menu with the Windows Key. Open the context menu, arrow
up to, sort by name, & press enter. This puts the start menu shortcuts in
Alphabetical order.

Deleting shortcuts from the start menu:

1. Open the start menu & arrow / highlight the shortcut you would like to
delete / remove.
2. With the shortcut highlighted, open the context menu, arrow to delete, &
press enter.


Again open your start menu with the Windows Key. Open the context menu,
arrow up to, sort by name, & press enter to refresh your start menu list.
HTH
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws list
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: Removing And Adding Programs To Start Menu


Hi, all.

I am installing Jaws 14 on several computers, both home and work-related,
and have a question.

How do I get Jaws 14 to appear on the start menu? It appears on the desk
top, but I'd like it on the start menu as well.

Also, I recently un-installed Jaws 11 on one of my computers, but it still
appears on the start menu. I'd like to know how I delete this listing,
since the program is no longer on the computer?

Thanks!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: Removing And Adding Programs To Start Menu

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Tom,

Try the following to add a shortcut to the start menu:
1. Highlight the Jaws14 shortcut on the desktop.
2. Press your applications key or press, shift + F10 if it's a laptop Or you
don't have an applications key to open the context menu.
3. Arrow down to the, Send To, submenu & press enter to open.
4. Arrow down to, Start Menu, & press enter. This sends a copyy of the
desktop shortcut to the start menu.

Now open your start menu with the Windows Key. Open the context menu, arrow
up to, sort by name, & press enter. This puts the start menu shortcuts in
Alphabetical order.

Deleting shortcuts from the start menu:

1. Open the start menu & arrow / highlight the shortcut you would like to
delete / remove.
2. With the shortcut highlighted, open the context menu, arrow to delete, &
press enter.


Again open your start menu with the Windows Key. Open the context menu,
arrow up to, sort by name, & press enter to refresh your start menu list.
HTH
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws list
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: Removing And Adding Programs To Start Menu


Hi, all.

I am installing Jaws 14 on several computers, both home and work-related,
and have a question.

How do I get Jaws 14 to appear on the start menu? It appears on the desk
top, but I'd like it on the start menu as well.

Also, I recently un-installed Jaws 11 on one of my computers, but it still
appears on the start menu. I'd like to know how I delete this listing,
since the program is no longer on the computer?

Thanks!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: Removing And Adding Programs To Start Menu

Tom Behler
 

Ann:

I just remembered the applications menu, and made the needed changes.

So, I guess my brain cells were just temporarily on vacation for a few minutes there.

Thanks!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Removing And Adding Programs To Start Menu


The applications menu is your friend! It will add or remove items to/from the start menu and/or the taskbar ... but who cares about the taskbar???
At 01:24 PM 9/16/2013, you wrote:
Hi, all.

I am installing Jaws 14 on several computers, both home and work-related, and have a question.

How do I get Jaws 14 to appear on the start menu? It appears on the desk top, but I'd like it on the start menu as well.

Also, I recently un-installed Jaws 11 on one of my computers, but it still appears on the start menu. I'd like to know how I delete this listing, since the program is no longer on the computer?

Thanks!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: Removing And Adding Programs To Start Menu

Ann Byrne
 

The applications menu is your friend! It will add or remove items to/from the start menu and/or the taskbar ... but who cares about the taskbar???

At 01:24 PM 9/16/2013, you wrote:
Hi, all.

I am installing Jaws 14 on several computers, both home and work-related, and have a question.

How do I get Jaws 14 to appear on the start menu? It appears on the desk top, but I'd like it on the start menu as well.

Also, I recently un-installed Jaws 11 on one of my computers, but it still appears on the start menu. I'd like to know how I delete this listing, since the program is no longer on the computer?

Thanks!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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Removing And Adding Programs To Start Menu

Tom Behler
 

Hi, all.

I am installing Jaws 14 on several computers, both home and work-related, and have a question.

How do I get Jaws 14 to appear on the start menu? It appears on the desk top, but I'd like it on the start menu as well.

Also, I recently un-installed Jaws 11 on one of my computers, but it still appears on the start menu. I'd like to know how I delete this listing, since the program is no longer on the computer?

Thanks!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: Something like Garage Band?

Dave...
 

Richard,

Here's a link to the web site where you can get the last version of the
scripts. They will work with BIAB up to version 2013.

http://torpey.info/AccessTools.htm

David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Something like Garage Band?


I don't doubt that at all. And I get the same impression of the interface
with the iDevice versions as well.

I will check out Band in a Box as well as your suggestion, Reaper. I'll look
into that list as well. My daughter has a lot of musical tallent. I'm
anxious to help her enjoy the benefits of her talent-- she's a great kid.
She needs and deserves ways to enjoy her creative instincts.

Thanks again!
On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:

One of the folks on the midimag list (for those not familiar with it, it's
a
mailing list for blind musicians) has traded a lot of emails and phone
conversations with Apple regarding accessibility of their music
applications, and they've said that their programs (Garage Band and Logic)
are very much designed using a mouse based interface, and that it's going
to
take substantial programming to make them accessible, which means, at
best,
substantial time.
Yes, Band in a Box might also be a good option. Garage Band is a fairly
varied product, so it matters what parts of it she wants to be able to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Richard
Holloway
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Something like GarageBand?

Excellent. It doesn't need to be free, but it needs to be JAWS-
friendly. My daughter is very much in a "I want to do this without
sighted assistance" mode about some of this. I get that, and I fully
support the concept, but so far things like GarageBand on her iDevices
have been pretty hard to grasp-- very much touch-screen centered stuff.
She finds it understandably frustrating...

Thanks!



On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:51 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:

I think band in a box is much more like GarageBand, and it runs on
the PC with prescripts for Josh. It is not free, but it should be
checked out if you want something like GarageBand.
You can find it on the web at PGmusic.com Dave Carlson Sent from my
iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 16:19, "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@...>
wrote:

Reaper is probably her best and least expensive option.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Richard
Holloway
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 6:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Something like GarageBand?

My daughter (age 11) likes using GarageBand on her iDevices and my
Mac, but GarageBand doesn't seem to be a a available for Windows.

I am aware of some similar PC software-- Fruity Loops comes to mind,
and I'm sure there are other options too. What I'm wondering is
which
of these would be most accessible?

She's using an older PC with Vista but the current release of JAWS
with a Focus 40.

Note-- this is just for general music exploration. There are no
particular "must-have" features.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Soronel Haetir
<soronel.haetir@...>
wrote:

No, you can download a bunch of different voices from FS at
http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/index.asp

Use the Vocalizer Expressive, Vocalizer Direct and RealSpeak Solo
Direct links.

The only voice I actually like out of all these is Emily, which is
only available as an RSD voice.

On 9/15/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
They are on the Freedom Scientific web site. You need to go there
and
look around.
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: real speak


Does your computer have to come with real speak installed in order
to
take advantage of real sounding voices? I went to the jaws icon
on
my machine and nothing was available but eloquence and sappy 5.
Judith

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Reliability Monitor In Windows7 & 8

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

For those of us that haven't heard about this feature in Win7 & 8:

From: David Ferrin
I learned this just yesterday reading Smart Computing. It seems that both
Windows 7 & 8 have this feature. Look for it in your search box and check it
out. I find it an interesting read.

I haven't learned my entire way around it but with luck and the basement
doesn't flood I will get there someday. BTW I don't have a basement so no
worries there.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


From: David Whitehead
Applies to these editions of Windows 7

Home Premium

Professional

Ultimate

Enterprise
complementary information

Reliability Monitor is an advanced tool that measures hardware and software
problems and other changes to your computer. It provides a stability index
that ranges from 1 (the least stable) to 10 (the most stable). You can use
the index to help evaluate the reliability of your computer. Any change you
make to your computer or problem that occurs on your computer affects the
stability index.

The Reliability Monitor is intended for advanced computer users, such as
software developers and network administrators.


1. Open Action Center by clicking the Start button
clicking Control Panel, and then, under System and Security, clicking Review
your computer's status.

2. Click Maintenance. Then, under Check for solutions to problem reports,
click View reliability history.

3. In Reliability Monitor, you can:
. Click any event on the graph to view its details.

. Click Days or Weeks to view the stability index over a specific period of
time.

. Click items in the Action column to view more information about each
event.

. Click View all problem reports to view only the problems that have
occurred on your computer. This view doesn't include the other computer
events that
show up in Reliability Monitor, such as events about software installation.

David

Take care.
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Re: saving an attachment

George B
 

open the email,
shift tab once and your in the attachement line,
arrow right to the attachement i say this because sometimes the email client
adds a little attachement which says message so arrow right to the
attachement you wish to save,
hit your enter/return key and you should et a dialog box asking you if you
wish to save open or cancel and tab to save and hit enter/return and follow
the dialog box

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 09:10
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: saving an attachment

Using Jaws 14 and Windows 8 how do you save an music attachment?
Thanks,
Judith

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saving an attachment

judith bron
 

Using Jaws 14 and Windows 8 how do you save an music attachment? Thanks,
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web visum 0.91 issue

cecropia64
 

Hi folks.

I'm using Windows XP Pro with jaws 9. I'm also using web visum 0.91 and am having an issuwe with it.
I've got firefox set to not let me know when the site is redirecting me to another page. But after a couple of usages, the setting gets checked again and it asks me to allow this redirect. I'm assuming it's a web visum issue since it doesn't happen when I have it disabled.
Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? The obvious is to not use web visum but this gets to be a pain in the butt!

Thanks

Stewart


Re: jaws 15

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I should have said earlier that you don't need a key for a demo; as long as you can use 14 it ought to work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws 15

Also, I would advise against activating jaws inside a virtual machine under most circumstances.

It is more costly ($200) in the short term but if you are going to use VMs a lot I would get the remote access option enabled, then you don't need to worry about activating jaws for such uses so long as you connect using remote desktop.

And if you aren't going to use the VM enough for that t be worthwhile you probably aren't going to be using the VM enough to want to burn an activation on.

On 9/16/13, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@...> wrote:
Your About screen will tell you if your SMA is good. Just because
Activation is cranky, don't automatically assume the worst. If YOUR
SMA is good, you have other alternatives. Wish I could remember how
they work right at this minute, as I've had to use them myself from
time to time. I do recall that you can get a code online from FS,
which you enter along with your authorization number.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marvin
Hunkin
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:55 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: jaws 15

hi.
well.
decided to road test jaws 15, in the virtual machine, using vmware
work station 10.
well.
windows narrator, seems a half decent screen access solution.
and the nice voices.
except, the volume was low, then high in some spots.
and was able to install all updates, then install jaws 15.
and guess what.
when i installed all the windows updates, and then rebootted.
then i was able to hear the text route jaws to pc, and able to hear my
serial number, able to hear insert tab, the version of jaws.
same when i was trying to set up my network, and heard the message,
about the create home group, etc.
so.
also went to the toshiba site, and you click a button to see if your
pc is upgradeable to windows 8.
and mine is, even though the model is not in the list of laptops.
that was the main problem, when i tried about 12 months ago with jaws
13, and then jaws 14.
but, this seems to fix it.
was able to connect to the internet, but when i tried to authorisze my
jaws, took forever to connect to the freedom scientific ftp server,
and then said it could not connect.
so.
maybe my serial number is no good, and will be upgrading the sma, for
jaws 15.
and road testing, jaws 15 on my windows 7 machine.
so will just go and get the windows 8 automated kit.
and got the legal version of windows 8, from
http://www.dreamspark.com, as a it student, and a member of the
Microsoft Sodftware Development Academy Alliance, where as i am a
student of wsi online at http://wsi.tafensw.edu.au, able to legally download software.
and have done so with windows 7, windows 8, visual studio 2012,
project
2012 .
marvin.

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Re: jaws 15

Soronel Haetir
 

Also, I would advise against activating jaws inside a virtual machine
under most circumstances.

It is more costly ($200) in the short term but if you are going to use
VMs a lot I would get the remote access option enabled, then you don't
need to worry about activating jaws for such uses so long as you
connect using remote desktop.

And if you aren't going to use the VM enough for that t be worthwhile
you probably aren't going to be using the VM enough to want to burn an
activation on.

On 9/16/13, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@...> wrote:
Your About screen will tell you if your SMA is good. Just because
Activation is cranky, don't automatically assume the worst. If YOUR SMA is
good, you have other alternatives. Wish I could remember how they work
right at this minute, as I've had to use them myself from time to time. I do
recall that you can get a code online from FS, which you enter along with
your authorization number.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:55 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: jaws 15

hi.
well.
decided to road test jaws 15, in the virtual machine, using vmware work
station 10.
well.
windows narrator, seems a half decent screen access solution.
and the nice voices.
except, the volume was low, then high in some spots.
and was able to install all updates, then install jaws 15.
and guess what.
when i installed all the windows updates, and then rebootted.
then i was able to hear the text route jaws to pc, and able to hear my
serial number, able to hear insert tab, the version of jaws.
same when i was trying to set up my network, and heard the message, about
the create home group, etc.
so.
also went to the toshiba site, and you click a button to see if your pc is
upgradeable to windows 8.
and mine is, even though the model is not in the list of laptops.
that was the main problem, when i tried about 12 months ago with jaws 13,
and then jaws 14.
but, this seems to fix it.
was able to connect to the internet, but when i tried to authorisze my jaws,
took forever to connect to the freedom scientific ftp server, and then said
it could not connect.
so.
maybe my serial number is no good, and will be upgrading the sma, for jaws
15.
and road testing, jaws 15 on my windows 7 machine.
so will just go and get the windows 8 automated kit.
and got the legal version of windows 8, from http://www.dreamspark.com, as a
it student, and a member of the Microsoft Sodftware Development Academy
Alliance, where as i am a student of wsi online at
http://wsi.tafensw.edu.au, able to legally download software.
and have done so with windows 7, windows 8, visual studio 2012, project
2012 .
marvin.

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using Silver Light

Mario
 

hi gang, I have a problem where I have some DVD videos that can be played
via the computer using Silver Light, but find a menu filled with unlabeled
numbered buttons. I never had to deal with SL, so would appreciate any
helpful keystrokes/shortcuts to use SL. I'm not sure if any scripts exist to
facilitate JAWS access with SL.

is there a way to make these videos accessible with JAWS, or should I call
the manufacturer and ask if the videos are available in a standard format
that can be played with Winamp or maybe VLC?


Re: reading an article without all the extraneous...

Dennis Clark <dennis@...>
 

Hello Phil,
I also appreciated your helpful and detailed response to Judith's question.
Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Hall" <p.hall.eml1@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: reading an article without all the extraneous...


Hi.
First, open the web pageyou are interested in reading.
Next, locate the item you want to remove: i.e. a face frame, or google ad
frame or whatever.
Next, press jaws key+ to open the layered key stroke mode or whatever it is
called.
Next, press x. this will start the flexible web wizard.
At this point, I just keep pressing enter until it closes. If you want, you
can use your arrow keys to explore the different dialog boxes.
At the end, it will create a temporary flexible web entery for that page.
You can add to it by selecting other items you want to get rid of.
When you are finished, you can either go back into the flexible web wizard
and instead of pressing enter the first time, arrow down to save the
temporary settings.
Press enter, and give your entery a name.
The next time you load that page, jaws will remove everything you choose,
and will play a little chime to let you know it did it.
You can also use the same technique to have jaws begin reading at a specific
point on a web page.
I would suggest you explore the flexible web options. Also, freedom has a
fscast that shows how to use it.

Phil




-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 10:25 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: reading an article without all the extraneous...

I just heard in the hjaws video that jaws now has a function where you can
set your computer to never hear another extraneous link about social media
or anything else! Does anyone have the keystrokes to make this happen?
Best, Judith

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Re: jaws 15

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Your About screen will tell you if your SMA is good. Just because Activation is cranky, don't automatically assume the worst. If YOUR SMA is good, you have other alternatives. Wish I could remember how they work right at this minute, as I've had to use them myself from time to time. I do recall that you can get a code online from FS, which you enter along with your authorization number.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:55 AM
To: jfw@...
Subject: jaws 15

hi.
well.
decided to road test jaws 15, in the virtual machine, using vmware work station 10.
well.
windows narrator, seems a half decent screen access solution.
and the nice voices.
except, the volume was low, then high in some spots.
and was able to install all updates, then install jaws 15.
and guess what.
when i installed all the windows updates, and then rebootted.
then i was able to hear the text route jaws to pc, and able to hear my serial number, able to hear insert tab, the version of jaws.
same when i was trying to set up my network, and heard the message, about the create home group, etc.
so.
also went to the toshiba site, and you click a button to see if your pc is upgradeable to windows 8.
and mine is, even though the model is not in the list of laptops.
that was the main problem, when i tried about 12 months ago with jaws 13, and then jaws 14.
but, this seems to fix it.
was able to connect to the internet, but when i tried to authorisze my jaws, took forever to connect to the freedom scientific ftp server, and then said it could not connect.
so.
maybe my serial number is no good, and will be upgrading the sma, for jaws 15.
and road testing, jaws 15 on my windows 7 machine.
so will just go and get the windows 8 automated kit.
and got the legal version of windows 8, from http://www.dreamspark.com, as a it student, and a member of the Microsoft Sodftware Development Academy Alliance, where as i am a student of wsi online at http://wsi.tafensw.edu.au, able to legally download software.
and have done so with windows 7, windows 8, visual studio 2012, project
2012 .
marvin.

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Re: saved download

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

You don't even have to know the name of the flash, just the letter it occupies. It's e:\ on the work machine, K:\ at home.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: saved download

So where it says c:\bla\bla\bla type in e:\flashdrive.
At 03:46 PM 9/13/2013, you wrote:
On my system it saves files to a c: blablabla long title but I want
them on my flash sometimes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: saved download

I use something like C:\my documents\file name should already be there.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Harris,
Robert
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: saved download

Specifying the path gets the error beep and invalid file name?

Bobbby and Prince

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lisle,
Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: saved download

Try specifying the path when you save. Use Search to find what you've
already saved.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: saved download

I don't have a flash drive. I don't know how to acces hidden folders.
Any help would be appreciated. Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Harris,
Robert
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: saved download

If I can add value to this; I'm still having trouble with this myself
where the folders are "hidden" when I save a file or a download I have
a really difficult time putting the file/download where I want it to go
(usually my flash drive).

Any help a big thank you and bark from Prince

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:44 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: saved download

All right, I went to freedom scientific and saved the download about
jaws 14. Now for the elementary question of the year, where do I find it?
Thanks, Judith

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jaws 15

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

hi.
well.
decided to road test jaws 15, in the virtual machine, using vmware work station 10.
well.
windows narrator, seems a half decent screen access solution.
and the nice voices.
except, the volume was low, then high in some spots.
and was able to install all updates, then install jaws 15.
and guess what.
when i installed all the windows updates, and then rebootted.
then i was able to hear the text route jaws to pc, and able to hear my serial number, able to hear insert tab, the version of jaws.
same when i was trying to set up my network, and heard the message, about the create home group, etc.
so.
also went to the toshiba site, and you click a button to see if your pc is upgradeable to windows 8.
and mine is, even though the model is not in the list of laptops.
that was the main problem, when i tried about 12 months ago with jaws 13, and then jaws 14.
but, this seems to fix it.
was able to connect to the internet, but when i tried to authorisze my jaws, took forever to connect to the freedom scientific ftp server, and then said it could not connect.
so.
maybe my serial number is no good, and will be upgrading the sma, for jaws 15.
and road testing, jaws 15 on my windows 7 machine.
so will just go and get the windows 8 automated kit.
and got the legal version of windows 8, from http://www.dreamspark.com, as a it student, and a member of the Microsoft Sodftware
Development Academy Alliance, where as i am a student of wsi online at http://wsi.tafensw.edu.au, able to legally download software.
and have done so with windows 7, windows 8, visual studio 2012, project 2012 .
marvin.


Re: Something like Garage Band?

Richard Holloway
 

I don't doubt that at all. And I get the same impression of the interface with the iDevice versions as well.

I will check out Band in a Box as well as your suggestion, Reaper. I'll look into that list as well. My daughter has a lot of musical tallent. I'm anxious to help her enjoy the benefits of her talent-- she's a great kid. She needs and deserves ways to enjoy her creative instincts.

Thanks again!

On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:

One of the folks on the midimag list (for those not familiar with it, it's a
mailing list for blind musicians) has traded a lot of emails and phone
conversations with Apple regarding accessibility of their music
applications, and they've said that their programs (Garage Band and Logic)
are very much designed using a mouse based interface, and that it's going to
take substantial programming to make them accessible, which means, at best,
substantial time.
Yes, Band in a Box might also be a good option. Garage Band is a fairly
varied product, so it matters what parts of it she wants to be able to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Richard
Holloway
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Something like GarageBand?

Excellent. It doesn't need to be free, but it needs to be JAWS-
friendly. My daughter is very much in a "I want to do this without
sighted assistance" mode about some of this. I get that, and I fully
support the concept, but so far things like GarageBand on her iDevices
have been pretty hard to grasp-- very much touch-screen centered stuff.
She finds it understandably frustrating...

Thanks!



On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:51 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:

I think band in a box is much more like GarageBand, and it runs on
the PC with prescripts for Josh. It is not free, but it should be
checked out if you want something like GarageBand.
You can find it on the web at PGmusic.com Dave Carlson Sent from my
iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 16:19, "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@...>
wrote:

Reaper is probably her best and least expensive option.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Richard
Holloway
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 6:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Something like GarageBand?

My daughter (age 11) likes using GarageBand on her iDevices and my
Mac, but GarageBand doesn't seem to be a a available for Windows.

I am aware of some similar PC software-- Fruity Loops comes to mind,
and I'm sure there are other options too. What I'm wondering is
which
of these would be most accessible?

She's using an older PC with Vista but the current release of JAWS
with a Focus 40.

Note-- this is just for general music exploration. There are no
particular "must-have" features.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Soronel Haetir
<soronel.haetir@...>
wrote:

No, you can download a bunch of different voices from FS at
http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/index.asp

Use the Vocalizer Expressive, Vocalizer Direct and RealSpeak Solo
Direct links.

The only voice I actually like out of all these is Emily, which is
only available as an RSD voice.

On 9/15/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
They are on the Freedom Scientific web site. You need to go there
and
look around.
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: real speak


Does your computer have to come with real speak installed in order
to
take advantage of real sounding voices? I went to the jaws icon
on
my machine and nothing was available but eloquence and sappy 5.
Judith

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Re: Something like Garage Band?

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

One of the folks on the midimag list (for those not familiar with it, it's a
mailing list for blind musicians) has traded a lot of emails and phone
conversations with Apple regarding accessibility of their music
applications, and they've said that their programs (Garage Band and Logic)
are very much designed using a mouse based interface, and that it's going to
take substantial programming to make them accessible, which means, at best,
substantial time.
Yes, Band in a Box might also be a good option. Garage Band is a fairly
varied product, so it matters what parts of it she wants to be able to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Richard
Holloway
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Something like GarageBand?

Excellent. It doesn't need to be free, but it needs to be JAWS-
friendly. My daughter is very much in a "I want to do this without
sighted assistance" mode about some of this. I get that, and I fully
support the concept, but so far things like GarageBand on her iDevices
have been pretty hard to grasp-- very much touch-screen centered stuff.
She finds it understandably frustrating...

Thanks!



On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:51 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:

I think band in a box is much more like GarageBand, and it runs on
the PC with prescripts for Josh. It is not free, but it should be
checked out if you want something like GarageBand.
You can find it on the web at PGmusic.com Dave Carlson Sent from my
iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 16:19, "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@...>
wrote:

Reaper is probably her best and least expensive option.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Richard
Holloway
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 6:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Something like GarageBand?

My daughter (age 11) likes using GarageBand on her iDevices and my
Mac, but GarageBand doesn't seem to be a a available for Windows.

I am aware of some similar PC software-- Fruity Loops comes to mind,
and I'm sure there are other options too. What I'm wondering is
which
of these would be most accessible?

She's using an older PC with Vista but the current release of JAWS
with a Focus 40.

Note-- this is just for general music exploration. There are no
particular "must-have" features.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Soronel Haetir
<soronel.haetir@...>
wrote:

No, you can download a bunch of different voices from FS at
http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/index.asp

Use the Vocalizer Expressive, Vocalizer Direct and RealSpeak Solo
Direct links.

The only voice I actually like out of all these is Emily, which is
only available as an RSD voice.

On 9/15/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
They are on the Freedom Scientific web site. You need to go there
and
look around.
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: real speak


Does your computer have to come with real speak installed in order
to
take advantage of real sounding voices? I went to the jaws icon
on
my machine and nothing was available but eloquence and sappy 5.
Judith

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Re: Something like GarageBand?

Richard Holloway
 

Excellent. It doesn't need to be free, but it needs to be JAWS-friendly. My daughter is very much in a "I want to do this without sighted assistance" mode about some of this. I get that, and I fully support the concept, but so far things like GarageBand on her iDevices have been pretty hard to grasp-- very much touch-screen centered stuff. She finds it understandably frustrating...

Thanks!

On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:51 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:

I think band in a box is much more like GarageBand, and it runs on the PC with prescripts for Josh. It is not free, but it should be checked out if you want something like GarageBand.
You can find it on the web at PGmusic.com
Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 16:19, "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@...> wrote:

Reaper is probably her best and least expensive option.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Richard
Holloway
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 6:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Something like GarageBand?

My daughter (age 11) likes using GarageBand on her iDevices and my Mac,
but GarageBand doesn't seem to be a a available for Windows.

I am aware of some similar PC software-- Fruity Loops comes to mind,
and I'm sure there are other options too. What I'm wondering is which
of these would be most accessible?

She's using an older PC with Vista but the current release of JAWS with
a Focus 40.

Note-- this is just for general music exploration. There are no
particular "must-have" features.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...>
wrote:

No, you can download a bunch of different voices from FS at
http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/index.asp

Use the Vocalizer Expressive, Vocalizer Direct and RealSpeak Solo
Direct links.

The only voice I actually like out of all these is Emily, which is
only available as an RSD voice.

On 9/15/13, David G. Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
They are on the Freedom Scientific web site. You need to go there
and
look around.
David G. Carlson
Marketing / Sales Engineer
RF Timing and Synchronization
dgcarlson@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: real speak


Does your computer have to come with real speak installed in order
to
take advantage of real sounding voices? I went to the jaws icon on
my machine and nothing was available but eloquence and sappy 5.
Judith

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