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Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Soronel Haetir
 

Thanks, I did have that mixed up, I knew the right position but had
the function backwards.

On 7/12/13, Lee Maschmeyer <leemer1@...> wrote:
The left mouse button is Numpad slash. On most keypads it's the second from

the left. I, being an old geezer, keep 'em straight because back in the IBM

360 days an end-of-file was slash asterisk which are the second and third
buttons on the top row of the keypad.

(Jeepers! That even goes back to punched cards! Remember them?)

HTH,

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others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you

had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."
--Lewis Carroll


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Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Lee Maschmeyer
 

The left mouse button is Numpad slash. On most keypads it's the second from the left. I, being an old geezer, keep 'em straight because back in the IBM 360 days an end-of-file was slash asterisk which are the second and third buttons on the top row of the keypad.

(Jeepers! That even goes back to punched cards! Remember them?)

HTH,

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Re: Opinions on resale price of JAWS

Angel
 

That is a most interesting question. Considering all Jaws does, and considering its compatibility with all the various languages it supports. Also., as most businesses and universities use Jaws as their screen reader of choice, should employment be gotten from such, there would be much less to learn. As familiarity with the most likely screen reader used by the place of employment would already be in place. I find it by far to be the best choice for the money, and is well worth the investment.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Jaws List" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: Opinions on resale price of JAWS


Greetings: The current price for the basic JAWS product is $895.
Excluding the $75 transfer fee for a copy of JAWS with valid SMA in force, what would be the fair market price on the resale market in your opinion?
Thanks and just curious, Mitch
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Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Soronel Haetir
 

Use the left mouse button key (numpad *) and click on any of the
non-functional text in the window and then switch back to PC cursor
mode.

On 7/12/13, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
OK, I know how to set focus with Alt plus Tab, but how do you set focus to
the tag window with the JAWS cursor?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS


Bill,

I've seen this before and the problem turned out to be that the tag
window was not gaining focus, if I used the jaws cursor I was able to
find it and set focus to it and proceed from there.

On 7/12/13, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
It was a saved PDF attachment which had been unblocked and is in the My
Documents folder.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:19 AM
Subject: RE: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS


Does this happen only when you try to open a PDF attachment? In that
case,

the solution for me is to save the file to my system and start over,
usually by performing OCR on it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:36 AM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Hello. I am using Adobe Reader XI with JAWS. I am having an unusual
problem. The first time I open a document, It tells me the standard
message about reading an untagged document, and that my screen reader
will

be unable to interact with this application.


After closing the document, I am unable to open it again. The only
message

I get if I click on the document is:
Alert, Document being Processed.

However, If I start Adobe Reader, and use Control plus O to open the
file,

it will open again with the standard message about the untagged
document
being prepared and so forth.

Does anyone know why the document will not open after the first time by
clicking on the file?

Thank you.
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Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Bill White
 

OK, I know how to set focus with Alt plus Tab, but how do you set focus to the tag window with the JAWS cursor?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS


Bill,

I've seen this before and the problem turned out to be that the tag
window was not gaining focus, if I used the jaws cursor I was able to
find it and set focus to it and proceed from there.

On 7/12/13, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
It was a saved PDF attachment which had been unblocked and is in the My
Documents folder.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:19 AM
Subject: RE: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS


Does this happen only when you try to open a PDF attachment? In that case,

the solution for me is to save the file to my system and start over,
usually by performing OCR on it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:36 AM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Hello. I am using Adobe Reader XI with JAWS. I am having an unusual
problem. The first time I open a document, It tells me the standard
message about reading an untagged document, and that my screen reader will

be unable to interact with this application.


After closing the document, I am unable to open it again. The only message

I get if I click on the document is:
Alert, Document being Processed.

However, If I start Adobe Reader, and use Control plus O to open the file,

it will open again with the standard message about the untagged document
being prepared and so forth.

Does anyone know why the document will not open after the first time by
clicking on the file?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...


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Opinions on resale price of JAWS

Dave Mitchell
 

Greetings: The current price for the basic JAWS product is $895.
Excluding the $75 transfer fee for a copy of JAWS with valid SMA in force, what would be the fair market price on the resale market in your opinion?
Thanks and just curious, Mitch
At the end of the day, it's night.


Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Soronel Haetir
 

Bill,

I've seen this before and the problem turned out to be that the tag
window was not gaining focus, if I used the jaws cursor I was able to
find it and set focus to it and proceed from there.

On 7/12/13, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
It was a saved PDF attachment which had been unblocked and is in the My
Documents folder.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:19 AM
Subject: RE: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS


Does this happen only when you try to open a PDF attachment? In that case,

the solution for me is to save the file to my system and start over,
usually by performing OCR on it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:36 AM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Hello. I am using Adobe Reader XI with JAWS. I am having an unusual
problem. The first time I open a document, It tells me the standard
message about reading an untagged document, and that my screen reader will

be unable to interact with this application.


After closing the document, I am unable to open it again. The only message

I get if I click on the document is:
Alert, Document being Processed.

However, If I start Adobe Reader, and use Control plus O to open the file,

it will open again with the standard message about the untagged document
being prepared and so forth.

Does anyone know why the document will not open after the first time by
clicking on the file?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...


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Re: Headset needed for call center work

Luis Difut
 

Thanks!
I'll give them a call.
Luis...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:37 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Headset needed for call center work

Hi Luis,

I don't have any personal experience with the headsets information below
but, the last 1 might be your best bet.

This headset allows you to listen to both your computer and the telephone at
the same time.

Name, Dual Head Sets by Plantronics.
Model or part number SMH1783-11. Price $350.00 to $400.00.

Name of distributor, Phone supplements
Phone, 1-800-742-1800


I've used Plantronics for years. The newer models unplug part way down the
cord so you can switch out the end you need. I have an eighth inch plug on 1
side and a phone plug on the other. I believe the model line you are needing
is the Supra. Don't let someone talk you into a stereo set, it won't work.

Here is the contact info for a company called Headsets Direct. That's where
I got my last set from.

Keep in mind everyone doesn't understand what we need with a different cord
for each ear. I know the best person you will talk to there is Ed, in tech
support. Everyone is friendly, and I've never spoken with anyone that didn't
speak English clearly...

1-888-244-0483 Toll Free . 928-777-9100 Telephone .
www.HeadsetsDirect.com
Bob

Hello Jim, I agree with others on this list that Plantronics equipment is
the way to go. For some reason buying from vendors is cheaper than buying
from Plantronics direct. SKC Communication Products Inc.

800 882 7779

SMH1783-11 headset special, price around $240.00I think

Also get the optional AC adapter 26503-01

If they ask who told you, Art from Pittsburgh.

Good luck.

Hello Mark,

Here is what you are looking for, I used these for many years earning a
living.
They are called "Dual Headsets".
One ear goes to your telephone, which has a small special box in-between
your telephone and the headphone jack, which allows you to control tone,
volume, mute and such, while the other ear goes directly to your computer
where you can hear your JAWS.

In every company I worked for, Humana Health Plans, The Miami-Herald
Newspaper, American Bankers, this is the Brand name of the Head Sets their
Customer Service Intake people used, the only difference being I used a
"Dual Channel" set, while the sighted folks used one channel sets.

The headset has a boom mike, it looks about like a coffee stirrer which you
speak into.

They are made of the highest quality material, very durable, yet very
comfortable, adjustable, they will send you parts, like the ear foam
cushions that get old after a year or so, immediately with a single
telephone call to their parts department.

Well, they are the top of the line.
And the price expresses that also.

***

Plantronics

United States - - Information on Products and Services

Toll Free telephone number 1-800-544-4660

Telephone number (831) 4426-5858

Fax-on -Demand

Address:

345 Encinal Street

Santa Cruz, California 95060

Toll-Free: 890.544.4660 Prompt 4 Direct Dial.- 650.598.4330

United States - Information an Products and Services

CHOOSE PLANTRONICS Sound Quality 170 Coiiifort and

Part number

15729-05

SKCCommunications Inc

1-800-882-7779

oice Tube

17593-01

Model number

Dual Channel Head Sets

Jan

Ext# 0

ID

5461



Hope 1 of the above helps.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Luis Difut
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:23 AM
Subject: Headset needed for call center work


Hello,
I have read on this list about headsets that connect your computer
headset & a telephone so Jaws would be in one ear and the phone call in the
other. Could someone please let me know the make & model I would need to get
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Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Bill White
 

It was a saved PDF attachment which had been unblocked and is in the My Documents folder.
Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:19 AM
Subject: RE: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS


Does this happen only when you try to open a PDF attachment? In that case, the solution for me is to save the file to my system and start over, usually by performing OCR on it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:36 AM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Hello. I am using Adobe Reader XI with JAWS. I am having an unusual problem. The first time I open a document, It tells me the standard message about reading an untagged document, and that my screen reader will be unable to interact with this application.


After closing the document, I am unable to open it again. The only message I get if I click on the document is:
Alert, Document being Processed.

However, If I start Adobe Reader, and use Control plus O to open the file, it will open again with the standard message about the untagged document being prepared and so forth.

Does anyone know why the document will not open after the first time by clicking on the file?

Thank you.
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Re: Headset needed for call center work

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Luis,

I don't have any personal experience with the headsets information below
but, the last 1 might be your best bet.

This headset allows you to listen to both your computer and the telephone at
the same time.

Name, Dual Head Sets by Plantronics.
Model or part number SMH1783-11. Price $350.00 to $400.00.

Name of distributor, Phone supplements
Phone, 1-800-742-1800


I've used Plantronics for years. The newer models unplug part way down the
cord so you can switch out the end you need. I have an eighth inch plug on 1
side and a phone plug on the other. I believe the model line you are needing
is the Supra. Don't let someone talk you into a stereo set, it won't work.

Here is the contact info for a company called Headsets Direct. That's where
I got my last set from.

Keep in mind everyone doesn't understand what we need with a different cord
for each ear. I know the best person you will talk to there is Ed, in tech
support. Everyone is friendly, and I've never spoken with anyone that didn't
speak English clearly...

1-888-244-0483 Toll Free . 928-777-9100 Telephone .
www.HeadsetsDirect.com
Bob

Hello Jim, I agree with others on this list that Plantronics equipment is
the way to go. For some reason buying from vendors is cheaper than buying
from
Plantronics direct. SKC Communication Products Inc.

800 882 7779

SMH1783-11 headset special, price around $240.00I think

Also get the optional AC adapter 26503-01

If they ask who told you, Art from Pittsburgh.

Good luck.

Hello Mark,

Here is what you are looking for, I used these for many years earning a
living.
They are called "Dual Headsets".
One ear goes to your telephone, which has a small special box in-between
your telephone and the headphone jack, which allows you to control tone,
volume,
mute and such, while the other ear goes directly to your computer where you
can hear your JAWS.

In every company I worked for, Humana Health Plans, The Miami-Herald
Newspaper, American Bankers, this is the Brand name of the Head Sets their
Customer
Service Intake people used, the only difference being I used a "Dual
Channel" set, while the sighted folks used one channel sets.

The headset has a boom mike, it looks about like a coffee stirrer which you
speak into.

They are made of the highest quality material, very durable, yet very
comfortable, adjustable, they will send you parts, like the ear foam
cushions that
get old after a year or so, immediately with a single telephone call to
their parts department.

Well, they are the top of the line.
And the price expresses that also.

***

Plantronics

United States - - Information on Products and Services

Toll Free telephone number 1-800-544-4660

Telephone number (831) 4426-5858

Fax-on -Demand

Address:

345 Encinal Street

Santa Cruz, California 95060

Toll-Free: 890.544.4660 Prompt 4 Direct Dial.- 650.598.4330

United States - Information an Products and Services

CHOOSE PLANTRONICS Sound Quality 170 Coiiifort and

Part number

15729-05

SKCCommunications Inc

1-800-882-7779

oice Tube

17593-01

Model number

Dual Channel Head Sets

Jan

Ext# 0

ID

5461



Hope 1 of the above helps.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Luis Difut
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:23 AM
Subject: Headset needed for call center work


Hello,
I have read on this list about headsets that connect your computer
headset & a telephone so Jaws would be in one ear and the phone call in the
other. Could someone please let me know the make & model I would need to get
for this task.

Thanks.
Luis...



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Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Bill,

Just in case you don't have Adobe XI set up for a screenreader, the steps
are below.

Note that there are links with the Security Enhanced section to explain the
consequences of
unchecking items there, and you may want to find out what they have to say.

1. Go into preferences with control-k. JAWS lands on an item in a tree view.
If you have been here before, it will be the item you last opened. Arrow
down to Security Enhanced. Note that this is the item below "Security."
Then uncheck these 2 options, the 2nd option is not necessary to uncheck
but, optional:
Enable Protected Mode at startup, needs to be unchecked.
Enable Enhanced Security, does not need to be unchecked.
Note. When making changes in the Security Enhanced section, you will be told
that Adobe needs to be restarted, but you can wait to finish the other
changes first.

2. Launch the Edit menu, scroll down to the Accessibility submenu and open
it. Scroll down to the Set-up Assistant and press enter. The Set-Up
Assistant has five screens, but the only change you have to make is on the
last, screen 5 of 5. Go through all the screens, pressing spacebar on "Next"
in each instance, until you reach the fifth and final screen. Here, tab to
the check box labeled "Display PDF documents in the web browser" and make
sure it
is unchecked. It may be checked by default. Then tab to the Okay button.

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
To: jfw mailing list
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:36 PM
Subject: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS


Hello. I am using Adobe Reader XI with JAWS. I am having an unusual problem.
The first time I open a document, It tells me the standard message about
reading an untagged document, and that my screen reader will be unable to
interact with this application.

After closing the document, I am unable to open it again. The only message I
get if I click on the document is:
Alert, Document being Processed.

However, If I start Adobe Reader, and use Control plus O to open the file,
it will open again with the standard message about the untagged document
being prepared and so forth.

Does anyone know why the document will not open after the first time by
clicking on the file?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...


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Re: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

Does this happen only when you try to open a PDF attachment? In that case, the solution for me is to save the file to my system and start over, usually by performing OCR on it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:36 AM
To: jfw mailing list
Subject: Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Hello. I am using Adobe Reader XI with JAWS. I am having an unusual problem. The first time I open a document, It tells me the standard message about reading an untagged document, and that my screen reader will be unable to interact with this application.


After closing the document, I am unable to open it again. The only message I get if I click on the document is:
Alert, Document being Processed.

However, If I start Adobe Reader, and use Control plus O to open the file, it will open again with the standard message about the untagged document being prepared and so forth.

Does anyone know why the document will not open after the first time by clicking on the file?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...


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Headset needed for call center work

Luis Difut
 

Hello,
I have read on this list about headsets that connect your computer
headset & a telephone so Jaws would be in one ear and the phone call in the
other. Could someone please let me know the make & model I would need to get
for this task.

Thanks.
Luis...


Adobe Reader XI with JAWS

Bill White
 

Hello. I am using Adobe Reader XI with JAWS. I am having an unusual problem. The first time I open a document, It tells me the standard message about reading an untagged document, and that my screen reader will be unable to interact with this application.

After closing the document, I am unable to open it again. The only message I get if I click on the document is:
Alert, Document being Processed.

However, If I start Adobe Reader, and use Control plus O to open the file, it will open again with the standard message about the untagged document being prepared and so forth.

Does anyone know why the document will not open after the first time by clicking on the file?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...


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Re: Jaws and windows 8

Laurie <slecrem@...>
 

Thank you!!!

Sent from Laurie's iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:57 PM, "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...> wrote:

The entire thing of jaws not being compatible with windows eight is
inaccurate and subjective.
I use jaws 14 on windows 8 and have no problems as it relates to how jaws
works with it.
Of course, I prefer win seven, but to answer the compatibility issue with
win 8 is again, inaccurate...


Kimsan

kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Laurie
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws and windows 8

(Sorry for the subject line post)


I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72 and completely
blind. He is not or never has been tech savy.... Meaning he has never been
on-line, used the internet, email or anything else having to do with a
computer!!! He now has decided that he wants to get "connected" so he
bought a HP with windows 8 and had the"type to learn" program downloaded. He
has spent the past 6 months learning the keyboard and has done well...Now he
want's to get started and purchase JAWS. but he is finding out by talking
to other JAWS users that Windows 8 is not very compatible with JAWS soooo
he is not sure what to do at this point. IS JAWS 14 going to work with
Windows 8...especially for someone that is computer illiterate? Keep in
mind he has no idea how Windows 7 is different from windows 8 to begin with.
Should he get a laptop that already works well with windows 7 thats seems to
get better reviews with JAWS users ? All he keeps hearing isWindows 8 and
JAWS 14 have so many problems. He is really motivated to move forward with
this and I hate to see him lose his interest when he has come so far with
learning the keyboard. Any suggestions or comments would be veryhelpful.
Thanks so much!!!! Laurie

Sent from Laurie's iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:45 PM, "Mike B." <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Laurie,

Would you please resend your message to the list but, please put the
message in the edit / message field & not in the subject field?
Please use the subject field to put a brief explanation as to what the
messaage pertains to, & your questions in the edit / message field.
It will make your post a whole lot easier to read & comprehend, &
therefore getting back better answers to your questions.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Laurie Cremmen
To: jfw@...
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72
andcompletely blind. He is not or never has been tech savy. He now
hasdecidedthat he wants to get "connected" so he bought a HP with
windows 8 andhad the"type to learn" program downloaded. He has spent
the past 6 monthslearningthe keyboard and has done well...Now he
want's to get started with JAWSandis finding out by talking to other
JAWS users that Windows * is notverycompatible with JAWS soooo he is not
sure what to do at this point.
ISJAWS 14 going to work with Windows ? Keep in mind he has no idea how
awindows 7is different from windows 8 to begin with. Should he get a
laptop thathaswindows& and get the earlier version of JAWS? All he
keeps hearing
isWindows* and JAWS 14 have so many problems. He is really motivated
to moveforwardwith this and I hate to see him lose his interest when
he has come sofarwith learning the keyboard. Any suggestions or
comments would be veryhelpful. Thanks so much!!!! La



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Re: Jaws and windows 8

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

The entire thing of jaws not being compatible with windows eight is
inaccurate and subjective.
I use jaws 14 on windows 8 and have no problems as it relates to how jaws
works with it.
Of course, I prefer win seven, but to answer the compatibility issue with
win 8 is again, inaccurate...


Kimsan

kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Laurie
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws and windows 8

(Sorry for the subject line post)


I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72 and completely
blind. He is not or never has been tech savy.... Meaning he has never been
on-line, used the internet, email or anything else having to do with a
computer!!! He now has decided that he wants to get "connected" so he
bought a HP with windows 8 and had the"type to learn" program downloaded. He
has spent the past 6 months learning the keyboard and has done well...Now he
want's to get started and purchase JAWS. but he is finding out by talking
to other JAWS users that Windows 8 is not very compatible with JAWS soooo
he is not sure what to do at this point. IS JAWS 14 going to work with
Windows 8...especially for someone that is computer illiterate? Keep in
mind he has no idea how Windows 7 is different from windows 8 to begin with.
Should he get a laptop that already works well with windows 7 thats seems to
get better reviews with JAWS users ? All he keeps hearing isWindows 8 and
JAWS 14 have so many problems. He is really motivated to move forward with
this and I hate to see him lose his interest when he has come so far with
learning the keyboard. Any suggestions or comments would be veryhelpful.
Thanks so much!!!! Laurie

Sent from Laurie's iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:45 PM, "Mike B." <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Laurie,

Would you please resend your message to the list but, please put the
message in the edit / message field & not in the subject field?
Please use the subject field to put a brief explanation as to what the
messaage pertains to, & your questions in the edit / message field.
It will make your post a whole lot easier to read & comprehend, &
therefore getting back better answers to your questions.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Laurie Cremmen
To: jfw@...
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72
andcompletely blind. He is not or never has been tech savy. He now
hasdecidedthat he wants to get "connected" so he bought a HP with
windows 8 andhad the"type to learn" program downloaded. He has spent
the past 6 monthslearningthe keyboard and has done well...Now he
want's to get started with JAWSandis finding out by talking to other
JAWS users that Windows * is notverycompatible with JAWS soooo he is not
sure what to do at this point.
ISJAWS 14 going to work with Windows ? Keep in mind he has no idea how
awindows 7is different from windows 8 to begin with. Should he get a
laptop thathaswindows& and get the earlier version of JAWS? All he
keeps hearing
isWindows* and JAWS 14 have so many problems. He is really motivated
to moveforwardwith this and I hate to see him lose his interest when
he has come sofarwith learning the keyboard. Any suggestions or
comments would be veryhelpful. Thanks so much!!!! La



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Re: Jaws and windows 8

Louise Johnson <herclouise@...>
 

Hello I use Jaws 14 and Windows 8 and I am a new user. I have learned a lot
in the last few months and it takes time and we always learn something new
each time we use the computer. I did not touch windows 7 that much so I
have learned a lot through windows 8. I hope your father learns a lot and
good luck. Louise and Hawk

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Laurie
Sent: July 11, 2013 7:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws and windows 8

(Sorry for the subject line post)


I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72 and completely
blind. He is not or never has been tech savy.... Meaning he has never been
on-line, used the internet, email or anything else having to do with a
computer!!! He now has decided that he wants to get "connected" so he
bought a HP with windows 8 and had the"type to learn" program downloaded. He
has spent the past 6 months learning the keyboard and has done well...Now he
want's to get started and purchase JAWS. but he is finding out by talking
to other JAWS users that Windows 8 is not very compatible with JAWS soooo
he is not sure what to do at this point. IS JAWS 14 going to work with
Windows 8...especially for someone that is computer illiterate? Keep in
mind he has no idea how Windows 7 is different from windows 8 to begin with.
Should he get a laptop that already works well with windows 7 thats seems to
get better reviews with JAWS users ? All he keeps hearing isWindows 8 and
JAWS 14 have so many problems. He is really motivated to move forward with
this and I hate to see him lose his interest when he has come so far with
learning the keyboard. Any suggestions or comments would be veryhelpful.
Thanks so much!!!! Laurie

Sent from Laurie's iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:45 PM, "Mike B." <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Laurie,

Would you please resend your message to the list but, please put the
message in the edit / message field & not in the subject field?
Please use the subject field to put a brief explanation as to what the
messaage pertains to, & your questions in the edit / message field.
It will make your post a whole lot easier to read & comprehend, &
therefore getting back better answers to your questions.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Laurie Cremmen
To: jfw@...
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72
andcompletely blind. He is not or never has been tech savy. He now
hasdecidedthat he wants to get "connected" so he bought a HP with
windows 8 andhad the"type to learn" program downloaded. He has spent
the past 6 monthslearningthe keyboard and has done well...Now he
want's to get started with JAWSandis finding out by talking to other
JAWS users that Windows * is notverycompatible with JAWS soooo he is not
sure what to do at this point.
ISJAWS 14 going to work with Windows ? Keep in mind he has no idea how
awindows 7is different from windows 8 to begin with. Should he get a
laptop thathaswindows& and get the earlier version of JAWS? All he
keeps hearing
isWindows* and JAWS 14 have so many problems. He is really motivated
to moveforwardwith this and I hate to see him lose his interest when
he has come sofarwith learning the keyboard. Any suggestions or
comments would be veryhelpful. Thanks so much!!!! La



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Re: Jaws and windows 8

Lee Maschmeyer
 

Hi Laurie,

A beautiful message, especially considering the unfortunate mess from before. It reminds me of a line from a Stan freberg record: "Is so good I could kill myself!"

As for the answer, which was posted a bit earlier, Jaws works fine with Windows 8. Study the training materials and you, and he, will be in pretty good shape.

Have fun,

--

Lee Maschmeyer

"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."
--Lewis Carroll


Jaws and windows 8

Laurie <slecrem@...>
 

(Sorry for the subject line post)


I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72 and completely blind. He is not or never has been tech savy.... Meaning he has never been on-line, used the internet, email or anything else having to do with a computer!!! He now has decided that he wants to get "connected" so he bought a HP with windows 8 and had the"type to learn" program downloaded. He has spent the past 6 months learning the keyboard and has done well...Now he want's to get started and purchase JAWS. but he is finding out by talking to other JAWS users that Windows 8 is not very compatible with JAWS soooo he is not sure what to do at this point. IS JAWS 14 going to work with Windows 8...especially for someone that is computer illiterate? Keep in mind he has no idea how Windows 7 is different from windows 8 to begin with. Should he get a laptop that already works well with windows 7 thats seems to get better reviews with JAWS users ? All he keeps hearing isWindows 8 and JAWS 14 have so many problems. He is really motivated to move forward with this and I hate to see him lose his interest when he has come so far with learning the keyboard. Any suggestions or comments would be veryhelpful. Thanks so much!!!! Laurie

Sent from Laurie's iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:45 PM, "Mike B." <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Laurie,

Would you please resend your message to the list but, please put the message
in the edit / message field & not in the subject field? Please use the
subject field to put a brief explanation as to what the messaage pertains
to, & your questions in the edit / message field. It will make your post a
whole lot easier to read & comprehend, & therefore getting back better
answers to your questions.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Laurie Cremmen
To: jfw@...
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72
andcompletely blind. He is not or never has been tech savy. He now
hasdecidedthat he wants to get "connected" so he bought a HP with windows 8
andhad the"type to learn" program downloaded. He has spent the past 6
monthslearningthe keyboard and has done well...Now he want's to get started
with JAWSandis finding out by talking to other JAWS users that Windows * is
notverycompatible with JAWS soooo he is not sure what to do at this point.
ISJAWS 14 going to work with Windows ? Keep in mind he has no idea how
awindows 7is different from windows 8 to begin with. Should he get a laptop
thathaswindows& and get the earlier version of JAWS? All he keeps hearing
isWindows* and JAWS 14 have so many problems. He is really motivated to
moveforwardwith this and I hate to see him lose his interest when he has
come sofarwith learning the keyboard. Any suggestions or comments would be
veryhelpful. Thanks so much!!!! La



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Re: I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72 andcompletely blind. He is not or never has been tech savy. He now hasdecidedthat he wants to get "connected" so he bought a HP with windows 8 andhad the"type to learn" program downloaded. He

Charles Krugman
 

Your message is a bit confusing as it is entirely written on the subject line. However, He should not have any problems using JAWS with Windows 8 as it is completely compatible. However if he is a new JAWS user he will have to avail himself of the training that comes with the JAWS download or online seminars and pod casts from Freedom Scientific. I'm not familiar with the typing program you mentioned which may or may not be compatible with JAWS.
Chuck

----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Cremmen" <slecrem@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: I am new to this listserve and have a dilemma. My dad is 72 andcompletely blind. He is not or never has been tech savy. He now hasdecidedthat he wants to get "connected" so he bought a HP with windows 8 andhad the"type to learn" program downloaded. He has spent the past 6 monthslearningthe keyboard and has done well...Now he want's to get started with JAWSandis finding out by talking to other JAWS users that Windows * is notverycompatible with JAWS soooo he is not sure what to do at this point. ISJAWS 14 going to work with Windows ? Keep in mind he has no idea how awindows 7is different from windows 8 to begin with. Should he get a laptop thathaswindows& and get the earlier version of JAWS? All he keeps hearing isWindows* and JAWS 14 have so many problems. He is really motivated to moveforwardwith this and I hate to see him lose his interest when he has come sofarwith learning the keyboard. Any suggestions or comments would be veryhelpful. Thanks so much!!!! La



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