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Skype and Jaws

Ron <facup1927@...>
 

Hi All.

Does anyone know if there is a specific mailing list for Skype users?

Many thanks.

Ron
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OneNote blind New features and new demo recording

John Martyn
 

Hi all,

For those that haven't kept up, one note blind has broken down a lot of
barriers and you can do more than you thought previously possible. You can
not only create notes and organize your stuff, but you can also attach
files, images, and audio and video recording to notes too. The latest audio
demo covers this.

Give it a listen:

http://www.OneNoteBlind.com/demo.mp3

Thanks for taking the time,

JohnMartyn

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Autofill not working in IE10

Matthew Bullis <matthewbullis@...>
 

So I got an incomprehensible and thus not helpful answer from Freedom Scientific on this question, but since I upgraded from IE9 to IE10, I can't, for instance, be on an e-mail field and down arrow twice and have it fill in my username on a site. The password fills in like normal, but is this a Jaws problem or something that is lacking in IE10?
Thanks a lot.
Matthew


Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I just use the create new shortcut function of Windows. When it asks for the location of the shortcut, I paste in the URL, and I send the shortcut to the desktop. Then I can move it into a folder where all my shortcuts are stored.

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.


Hello,
How do you do that? Right click on the address bar?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

I have changed to mostly using shortcuts to URL's instead of using bookmarks
anyway. I can keep them in a folder anywhere I choose, and select one of
them without even having to open the browser.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.


The only real problem I have with Firefox is the bookmark structure.
But I suspect that's just me. For solving capchas, though, you can't beat
Firefox and web visim. I haven't put that on my new PC yet, but it's on my
to-do list. But navigating pages is pretty much the same as IE.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: May 25, 2013 4:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew,

I think you'll find, for the most part, that the navigation in Firefox is
very similar to IE. You can use first letter navigation, bring up a list of
links or headings, navigate by headings etc. just as you do in IE. In
Firefox the keystroke to bring up the address bar is CTRL + L as opposed to
CTRL + O. You can still use F4 as well.

I find that on some sites IE works better and on others Firefox works
better. At work, in order to use some features within the intrnet, we must
use Firefox because the site won't work with IE. I'm playing around quite a
lot with Chrome these days. I really like it, but, it's not totally
accessible with Jaws yet.

It does no harm to have two or three browsers installed and alternate
between them, so give Firefox and Chrome a try.

HTH

Russell
On 2013-05-25, at 4:46 PM, "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@runbox.com>
wrote:

Hello, so my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've
been a user of Internet Explorer since I got Windows98, and that was in
1999. If I switch to Firefox, will Jaws give me the same amount of
navigation and ease that I have with IE? I'd like to be able to use the same
first-letter navigation that I can with IE. What differences will I
encounter, and have Firefox users totally abandond Internet Explorer, or
occasionally had to go back for some feature?
Thanks a lot for your input.
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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17@...>
 

Firefox.com should do it, either that or Mozilla.org. But firefox.com
will take you to Firefox's dedicated webpage, where you can also
search for any add-ons you might need.

On 5/25/13, PKwanashie <patrick.kwanashie@snet.net> wrote:

Where does one go to get firefox?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith
Biggs
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hello,
How do you do that? Right click on the address bar?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

I have changed to mostly using shortcuts to URL's instead of using
bookmarks
anyway. I can keep them in a folder anywhere I choose, and select one of
them without even having to open the browser.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.


The only real problem I have with Firefox is the bookmark structure.
But I suspect that's just me. For solving capchas, though, you can't beat
Firefox and web visim. I haven't put that on my new PC yet, but it's on
my
to-do list. But navigating pages is pretty much the same as IE.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: May 25, 2013 4:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew,

I think you'll find, for the most part, that the navigation in Firefox is
very similar to IE. You can use first letter navigation, bring up a list

of
links or headings, navigate by headings etc. just as you do in IE. In
Firefox the keystroke to bring up the address bar is CTRL + L as opposed
to
CTRL + O. You can still use F4 as well.

I find that on some sites IE works better and on others Firefox works
better. At work, in order to use some features within the intrnet, we
must
use Firefox because the site won't work with IE. I'm playing around
quite
a
lot with Chrome these days. I really like it, but, it's not totally
accessible with Jaws yet.

It does no harm to have two or three browsers installed and alternate
between them, so give Firefox and Chrome a try.

HTH

Russell
On 2013-05-25, at 4:46 PM, "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@runbox.com>
wrote:

Hello, so my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've
been a user of Internet Explorer since I got Windows98, and that was in
1999. If I switch to Firefox, will Jaws give me the same amount of
navigation and ease that I have with IE? I'd like to be able to use the
same
first-letter navigation that I can with IE. What differences will I
encounter, and have Firefox users totally abandond Internet Explorer, or
occasionally had to go back for some feature?
Thanks a lot for your input.
Matthew

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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17@...>
 

You could export your bookmarks to an html file, which, when opened,
would provide all your links on a page. This is what I've done to
eliminate the need to deal with Firefox's convoluted bookmark
structure.

On 5/25/13, Jean Menzies <jemenzies@shaw.ca> wrote:
The only real problem I have with Firefox is the bookmark structure.
But I suspect that's just me. For solving capchas, though, you can't beat
Firefox and web visim. I haven't put that on my new PC yet, but it's on my
to-do list. But navigating pages is pretty much the same as IE.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: May 25, 2013 4:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew,

I think you'll find, for the most part, that the navigation in Firefox is
very similar to IE. You can use first letter navigation, bring up a list
of
links or headings, navigate by headings etc. just as you do in IE. In
Firefox the keystroke to bring up the address bar is CTRL + L as opposed to
CTRL + O. You can still use F4 as well.

I find that on some sites IE works better and on others Firefox works
better. At work, in order to use some features within the intrnet, we must
use Firefox because the site won't work with IE. I'm playing around quite
a
lot with Chrome these days. I really like it, but, it's not totally
accessible with Jaws yet.

It does no harm to have two or three browsers installed and alternate
between them, so give Firefox and Chrome a try.

HTH

Russell
On 2013-05-25, at 4:46 PM, "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@runbox.com>
wrote:

Hello, so my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've
been a user of Internet Explorer since I got Windows98, and that was in
1999. If I switch to Firefox, will Jaws give me the same amount of
navigation and ease that I have with IE? I'd like to be able to use the
same
first-letter navigation that I can with IE. What differences will I
encounter, and have Firefox users totally abandond Internet Explorer, or
occasionally had to go back for some feature?
Thanks a lot for your input.
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Re: Chrome & Jaws 14 question

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi,

I tried your suggestion of pressing either shift or CTRL +enter to open links in Chrome, and, it works in most cases! Thanks so much for the tip! I have found one place where it doesn't work however, and, I wonder if someone can try this to see if it's just something weird going on with my laptop. In the Gmail webmail site, the only way I am able to open a message in Chrome is to place the PC cursor on the subject of the message, and then route the Jaws cursor to the PC and perform a left mouse click. Pressing enter, shift + enter, or CTRL + enter on the subject of the message does nothing. Sort of strange... you'd think that because both products are made by Google, they would work well together. Can someone who has a Gmail account and Chrome installed please try opening a message and let me know what happens?

Thanks all.

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 3:59 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Chrome & Jaws 14 question

I have not come across that problem. Next time you do, just press
shift+enter, or control+enter to force the link to open. Either one of
those shortcuts will open the link.

On 5/24/2013 12:01 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
Hi,

Are you also noticing that in Chrome sometimes pressing enter on a link does nothing? I am experiencing this in the GMail inbox when using the web mail version of GMail. I'll press enter on the subject of a message, but it won't open the message. I end up having to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor and do a left mouse click to open the message. This does not happen when viewing GMail messages in Internet Explorer. It's too bad... I think Chrome could be an excellent browser with a few tweaks.

Thanks,

Russell
On 2013-05-23, at 4:17 AM, Ariel <accessibleknowledge@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a fix. I have been using Chrome for a few years, and it used to work to do what you want it to do, but in the latest updates it has been acting this way. I guess you can contact your screen reader, and ask them to provide a fix, aside from that, I don't think you can do much about it. What I do is I find the edit feel, press space, so I can edit the text, then I press the "End" key. I press back once, then put the letter I deleted, and I can now check what I wrote using the "control" and left "arrow" key. Best,
A
On 5/21/2013 10:11 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
Hi,

I'm noticing this behavior in any edit field in which I need to type something. I thought it was maybe to do with the fact that my laptop is about 7 years old and is a bit sluggish, but, I installed Chrome at work this morning, and it does the same thing there on a pretty powerful, one year old, desktop system. The text I type doesn't show unless I tab away and then back to the edit field. Refreshing the screen doesn't even make the text appear. The text also doesn't show up on my Braille display until I tab away and back to the field. I hope this can be resolved somehow because I really do love Chrome... it seems very quick.

Thanks,

Russell

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of wsallander@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Chrome & Jaws 14 question

I’ve tried bing on this end and so far no problems; I’ll give it a shot on google and see what happens there.



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From: Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎May‎ ‎20‎, ‎2013 ‎11‎:‎54‎ ‎PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'

Hi,

No, I just noticed it when trying to type in a search string at Google.com. I will play with it a bit more and send in more info, as I notice where this is happening.

Thanks,

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of wsallander@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Chrome & Jaws 14 question

Is it a specific site that this problem comes up?

If so, let me know which one it is and I’ll givwe it a try from here and see if I get the same results.




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From: Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎May‎ ‎20‎, ‎2013 ‎10‎:‎08‎ ‎PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'


Hi everyone,

I am trying out the Google Chrome browser, and really like it. It seems quite fast. I am noticing though when typing in an edit field, that Jaws 14 won't read the text unless you tab away and then back to the edit field.

Are there any tweaks or settings that I can change in either Jaws or Chrome to make the experience a little better?

Thanks for any advice here.

Russell


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Re: Using Google Chrome

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...>
 

Wow,
That did the trick!
Supposedly Chrome is supposed to take the synthesizer you use and use it instead of the horrid Anna voice, but it isn't doing it with me. Have you gotten that to work?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Spencer McLean
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Using Google Chrome

Hi Brandon:

I still use JAWS with Chrome. I'm at sixes and sevens with
Chromevox. My sense is that it would require a significant time investment
to get used to it. Plus, if you're like me and somewhat obsessive with
padding out your dictionary, switching to Chromevox causes you to lose all
that voice-correcting work.

However, to answer your question, you can use NVDA to install
extensions. When the install Extension window opens, do NVDA+NumPad Minus
to get the focus, then NVDA+NumPad five to get to the right region, then
NVDA+NumPad 2 to get to the graphic. Then NVDA+NumPad six until you reach
the two buttons at the bottom of the window. The first of those is the
install button. Do NVDA+NumPad Divide to route the mouse and then NumPad
Divide to left click and you're golden.

I'd caution you though. Chromevox feels a bit spazzy to me. It loves
to talk and it doesn't exactly walk you through how to use it, not like,
say, the nice tutorials in Android and iOS for their respective devices.

Spence

On Sat, 25 May 2013, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,
I am wondering how you got chromevox running on your chrome? I can't seem to find the "install" button after finding chromevox in the google store. I click add to chrome and Jaws freezes and NVDA sees a dialogue box it can't click on.
Also, have you found using Chromevox is better with interacting with Google dox and other Google products than the screen readers are with other web browsers?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- From: Spencer McLean
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Brandon:

I believe that is the endgame, yes. Initially, the feature appears
to be confined to performing searches, but even a cursory glance at how
other Google products operate, Android, Google Glass, and it's pretty clear
that it'll have more functionality built into it as it evolves.

Here's a video of how it'll work initially:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egD18_iMGmU

That said, these features might well come to Firefox as well,
especially if it's beneficial enough to be more than a novelty. I do voice
search with https://google.com/ now in Chrome and it's been surprisingly,
even shockingly, accurate, at least with a good mic.

For me, it's the most exciting feature to potentially come to web
browsing since, well, I started browsing.

Spence



On Sat, 25 May 2013, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,
I haven't heard about this chrome feature. Is it like Siri on the Iphone, so I can just say "Go to my facebook friends" and it will do that, or "open a google doc" and it will do that?
I'm not a very big fan of voice speaking for most things, but for shortcuts like the above voice commands beet memorizing a ton of keystrokes that may not even able to be mapped in the first place.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- From: Spencer McLean
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew:

Firefox is fine. Russell made a great case for it that I second.
However, if I were you, I'd put some time into Chrome. Within a few weeks,
it's likely that at least the Beta version of Chrome will have an always-on
microphone to which you'll be able to speak commands. Obviously, this has
at least the potential to seriously simplify browser usage going forward.
If you're interested in such a feature, it might be worthwhile to
familiarize yourself with the browser prior to its coming online.

If such a feature doesn't float your boat, then Firefox is perfectly
reasonable.

Spence



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So my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've been an Internet Explorer user since I got Windo
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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Patrick Kwanashie
 

Where does one go to get firefox?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith
Biggs
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hello,
How do you do that? Right click on the address bar?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

I have changed to mostly using shortcuts to URL's instead of using bookmarks
anyway. I can keep them in a folder anywhere I choose, and select one of
them without even having to open the browser.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.


The only real problem I have with Firefox is the bookmark structure.
But I suspect that's just me. For solving capchas, though, you can't beat
Firefox and web visim. I haven't put that on my new PC yet, but it's on my
to-do list. But navigating pages is pretty much the same as IE.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: May 25, 2013 4:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew,

I think you'll find, for the most part, that the navigation in Firefox is
very similar to IE. You can use first letter navigation, bring up a list
of
links or headings, navigate by headings etc. just as you do in IE. In
Firefox the keystroke to bring up the address bar is CTRL + L as opposed
to
CTRL + O. You can still use F4 as well.

I find that on some sites IE works better and on others Firefox works
better. At work, in order to use some features within the intrnet, we
must
use Firefox because the site won't work with IE. I'm playing around quite
a
lot with Chrome these days. I really like it, but, it's not totally
accessible with Jaws yet.

It does no harm to have two or three browsers installed and alternate
between them, so give Firefox and Chrome a try.

HTH

Russell
On 2013-05-25, at 4:46 PM, "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@runbox.com>
wrote:

Hello, so my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've
been a user of Internet Explorer since I got Windows98, and that was in
1999. If I switch to Firefox, will Jaws give me the same amount of
navigation and ease that I have with IE? I'd like to be able to use the
same
first-letter navigation that I can with IE. What differences will I
encounter, and have Firefox users totally abandond Internet Explorer, or
occasionally had to go back for some feature?
Thanks a lot for your input.
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Re: Using Google Chrome

Spencer McLean <smclean@...>
 

Hi Brandon:

I still use JAWS with Chrome. I'm at sixes and sevens with
Chromevox. My sense is that it would require a significant time investment
to get used to it. Plus, if you're like me and somewhat obsessive with
padding out your dictionary, switching to Chromevox causes you to lose all
that voice-correcting work.

However, to answer your question, you can use NVDA to install
extensions. When the install Extension window opens, do NVDA+NumPad Minus
to get the focus, then NVDA+NumPad five to get to the right region, then
NVDA+NumPad 2 to get to the graphic. Then NVDA+NumPad six until you reach
the two buttons at the bottom of the window. The first of those is the
install button. Do NVDA+NumPad Divide to route the mouse and then NumPad
Divide to left click and you're golden.

I'd caution you though. Chromevox feels a bit spazzy to me. It loves
to talk and it doesn't exactly walk you through how to use it, not like,
say, the nice tutorials in Android and iOS for their respective devices.

Spence

On Sat, 25 May 2013, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,
I am wondering how you got chromevox running on your chrome? I can't seem to find the "install" button after finding chromevox in the google store. I click add to chrome and Jaws freezes and NVDA sees a dialogue box it can't click on.
Also, have you found using Chromevox is better with interacting with Google dox and other Google products than the screen readers are with other web browsers?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- From: Spencer McLean
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Brandon:

I believe that is the endgame, yes. Initially, the feature appears
to be confined to performing searches, but even a cursory glance at how
other Google products operate, Android, Google Glass, and it's pretty clear
that it'll have more functionality built into it as it evolves.

Here's a video of how it'll work initially:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egD18_iMGmU

That said, these features might well come to Firefox as well,
especially if it's beneficial enough to be more than a novelty. I do voice
search with https://google.com/ now in Chrome and it's been surprisingly,
even shockingly, accurate, at least with a good mic.

For me, it's the most exciting feature to potentially come to web
browsing since, well, I started browsing.

Spence



On Sat, 25 May 2013, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,
I haven't heard about this chrome feature. Is it like Siri on the Iphone, so I can just say "Go to my facebook friends" and it will do that, or "open a google doc" and it will do that?
I'm not a very big fan of voice speaking for most things, but for shortcuts like the above voice commands beet memorizing a ton of keystrokes that may not even able to be mapped in the first place.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- From: Spencer McLean
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.
Hi Matthew:
Firefox is fine. Russell made a great case for it that I second.
However, if I were you, I'd put some time into Chrome. Within a few weeks,
it's likely that at least the Beta version of Chrome will have an always-on
microphone to which you'll be able to speak commands. Obviously, this has
at least the potential to seriously simplify browser usage going forward.
If you're interested in such a feature, it might be worthwhile to
familiarize yourself with the browser prior to its coming online.
If such a feature doesn't float your boat, then Firefox is perfectly
reasonable.
Spence
On Sat, 25 May 2013, Matthew Bullis wrote:

So my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've been an Internet Explorer user since I got Windo
Thanks a lot.
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Using Google Chrome

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...>
 

Hello,
I am wondering how you got chromevox running on your chrome? I can't seem to find the "install" button after finding chromevox in the google store. I click add to chrome and Jaws freezes and NVDA sees a dialogue box it can't click on.
Also, have you found using Chromevox is better with interacting with Google dox and other Google products than the screen readers are with other web browsers?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Spencer McLean
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Brandon:

I believe that is the endgame, yes. Initially, the feature appears
to be confined to performing searches, but even a cursory glance at how
other Google products operate, Android, Google Glass, and it's pretty clear
that it'll have more functionality built into it as it evolves.

Here's a video of how it'll work initially:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egD18_iMGmU

That said, these features might well come to Firefox as well,
especially if it's beneficial enough to be more than a novelty. I do voice
search with https://google.com/ now in Chrome and it's been surprisingly,
even shockingly, accurate, at least with a good mic.

For me, it's the most exciting feature to potentially come to web
browsing since, well, I started browsing.

Spence



On Sat, 25 May 2013, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,
I haven't heard about this chrome feature. Is it like Siri on the Iphone, so I can just say "Go to my facebook friends" and it will do that, or "open a google doc" and it will do that?
I'm not a very big fan of voice speaking for most things, but for shortcuts like the above voice commands beet memorizing a ton of keystrokes that may not even able to be mapped in the first place.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- From: Spencer McLean
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew:

Firefox is fine. Russell made a great case for it that I second.
However, if I were you, I'd put some time into Chrome. Within a few weeks,
it's likely that at least the Beta version of Chrome will have an always-on
microphone to which you'll be able to speak commands. Obviously, this has
at least the potential to seriously simplify browser usage going forward.
If you're interested in such a feature, it might be worthwhile to
familiarize yourself with the browser prior to its coming online.

If such a feature doesn't float your boat, then Firefox is perfectly
reasonable.

Spence



On Sat, 25 May 2013, Matthew Bullis wrote:

So my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've been an Internet Explorer user since I got Windo
Thanks a lot.
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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...>
 

Hello,
How do you do that? Right click on the address bar?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

I have changed to mostly using shortcuts to URL's instead of using bookmarks
anyway. I can keep them in a folder anywhere I choose, and select one of
them without even having to open the browser.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.


The only real problem I have with Firefox is the bookmark structure.
But I suspect that's just me. For solving capchas, though, you can't beat
Firefox and web visim. I haven't put that on my new PC yet, but it's on my
to-do list. But navigating pages is pretty much the same as IE.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: May 25, 2013 4:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew,

I think you'll find, for the most part, that the navigation in Firefox is
very similar to IE. You can use first letter navigation, bring up a list of
links or headings, navigate by headings etc. just as you do in IE. In
Firefox the keystroke to bring up the address bar is CTRL + L as opposed to
CTRL + O. You can still use F4 as well.

I find that on some sites IE works better and on others Firefox works
better. At work, in order to use some features within the intrnet, we must
use Firefox because the site won't work with IE. I'm playing around quite a
lot with Chrome these days. I really like it, but, it's not totally
accessible with Jaws yet.

It does no harm to have two or three browsers installed and alternate
between them, so give Firefox and Chrome a try.

HTH

Russell
On 2013-05-25, at 4:46 PM, "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@runbox.com>
wrote:

Hello, so my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've
been a user of Internet Explorer since I got Windows98, and that was in
1999. If I switch to Firefox, will Jaws give me the same amount of
navigation and ease that I have with IE? I'd like to be able to use the same
first-letter navigation that I can with IE. What differences will I
encounter, and have Firefox users totally abandond Internet Explorer, or
occasionally had to go back for some feature?
Thanks a lot for your input.
Matthew

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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I have changed to mostly using shortcuts to URL's instead of using bookmarks anyway. I can keep them in a folder anywhere I choose, and select one of them without even having to open the browser.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.


The only real problem I have with Firefox is the bookmark structure.
But I suspect that's just me. For solving capchas, though, you can't beat
Firefox and web visim. I haven't put that on my new PC yet, but it's on my
to-do list. But navigating pages is pretty much the same as IE.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: May 25, 2013 4:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew,

I think you'll find, for the most part, that the navigation in Firefox is
very similar to IE. You can use first letter navigation, bring up a list of
links or headings, navigate by headings etc. just as you do in IE. In
Firefox the keystroke to bring up the address bar is CTRL + L as opposed to
CTRL + O. You can still use F4 as well.

I find that on some sites IE works better and on others Firefox works
better. At work, in order to use some features within the intrnet, we must
use Firefox because the site won't work with IE. I'm playing around quite a
lot with Chrome these days. I really like it, but, it's not totally
accessible with Jaws yet.

It does no harm to have two or three browsers installed and alternate
between them, so give Firefox and Chrome a try.

HTH

Russell
On 2013-05-25, at 4:46 PM, "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@runbox.com>
wrote:

Hello, so my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've
been a user of Internet Explorer since I got Windows98, and that was in
1999. If I switch to Firefox, will Jaws give me the same amount of
navigation and ease that I have with IE? I'd like to be able to use the same
first-letter navigation that I can with IE. What differences will I
encounter, and have Firefox users totally abandond Internet Explorer, or
occasionally had to go back for some feature?
Thanks a lot for your input.
Matthew

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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

The only real problem I have with Firefox is the bookmark structure.
But I suspect that's just me. For solving capchas, though, you can't beat
Firefox and web visim. I haven't put that on my new PC yet, but it's on my
to-do list. But navigating pages is pretty much the same as IE.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: May 25, 2013 4:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew,

I think you'll find, for the most part, that the navigation in Firefox is
very similar to IE. You can use first letter navigation, bring up a list of
links or headings, navigate by headings etc. just as you do in IE. In
Firefox the keystroke to bring up the address bar is CTRL + L as opposed to
CTRL + O. You can still use F4 as well.

I find that on some sites IE works better and on others Firefox works
better. At work, in order to use some features within the intrnet, we must
use Firefox because the site won't work with IE. I'm playing around quite a
lot with Chrome these days. I really like it, but, it's not totally
accessible with Jaws yet.

It does no harm to have two or three browsers installed and alternate
between them, so give Firefox and Chrome a try.

HTH

Russell
On 2013-05-25, at 4:46 PM, "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@runbox.com>
wrote:

Hello, so my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've
been a user of Internet Explorer since I got Windows98, and that was in
1999. If I switch to Firefox, will Jaws give me the same amount of
navigation and ease that I have with IE? I'd like to be able to use the same
first-letter navigation that I can with IE. What differences will I
encounter, and have Firefox users totally abandond Internet Explorer, or
occasionally had to go back for some feature?
Thanks a lot for your input.
Matthew

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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...>
 

Hello,
I haven't heard about this chrome feature. Is it like Siri on the Iphone, so I can just say "Go to my facebook friends" and it will do that, or "open a google doc" and it will do that?
I'm not a very big fan of voice speaking for most things, but for shortcuts like the above voice commands beet memorizing a ton of keystrokes that may not even able to be mapped in the first place.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Spencer McLean
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi Matthew:

Firefox is fine. Russell made a great case for it that I second.
However, if I were you, I'd put some time into Chrome. Within a few weeks,
it's likely that at least the Beta version of Chrome will have an always-on
microphone to which you'll be able to speak commands. Obviously, this has
at least the potential to seriously simplify browser usage going forward.
If you're interested in such a feature, it might be worthwhile to
familiarize yourself with the browser prior to its coming online.

If such a feature doesn't float your boat, then Firefox is perfectly
reasonable.

Spence



On Sat, 25 May 2013, Matthew Bullis wrote:

So my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've been an Internet Explorer user since I got Windo
Thanks a lot.
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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...>
 

Or you can just hit f6, like you do with f4 on ie.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

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From: Marsha Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 4:09 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hi
You can also bring up the address bar with alt+D just as you do on Internet explorer.

Marsha



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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Even with the always on microphone, though, I don't think Chrome allows a person to solve captchas the way you can with webvisum and firefox.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.


Hi Matthew:

Firefox is fine. Russell made a great case for it that I second. However, if I were you, I'd put some time into Chrome. Within a few weeks,
it's likely that at least the Beta version of Chrome will have an always-on
microphone to which you'll be able to speak commands. Obviously, this has
at least the potential to seriously simplify browser usage going forward. If you're interested in such a feature, it might be worthwhile to
familiarize yourself with the browser prior to its coming online.

If such a feature doesn't float your boat, then Firefox is perfectly
reasonable.

Spence



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So my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've been an Internet Explorer user since I got Windo
Thanks a lot.
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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Marsha <marcatony@...>
 

Hi
You can also bring up the address bar with alt+D just as you do on
Internet explorer.

Marsha


Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...>
 

Hello,
Firefox has more plugins and dynamic capabilities than IE. I don't know about first letter navigation, but if it is based off the screen reader the functionality is the same.
Firefox just takes some configuring, like shockwave and Silverlight to be turned off.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Bullis
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Hello, so my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've
been a user of Internet Explorer since I got Windows98, and that was in
1999. If I switch to Firefox, will Jaws give me the same amount of
navigation and ease that I have with IE? I'd like to be able to use the same
first-letter navigation that I can with IE. What differences will I
encounter, and have Firefox users totally abandond Internet Explorer, or
occasionally had to go back for some feature?
Thanks a lot for your input.
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Re: If I switch to Firefox from Internet Explorer.

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Matthew,

I think you'll find, for the most part, that the navigation in Firefox is very similar to IE. You can use first letter navigation, bring up a list of links or headings, navigate by headings etc. just as you do in IE. In Firefox the keystroke to bring up the address bar is CTRL + L as opposed to CTRL + O. You can still use F4 as well.

I find that on some sites IE works better and on others Firefox works better. At work, in order to use some features within the intrnet, we must use Firefox because the site won't work with IE. I'm playing around quite a lot with Chrome these days. I really like it, but, it's not totally accessible with Jaws yet.

It does no harm to have two or three browsers installed and alternate between them, so give Firefox and Chrome a try.

HTH

Russell

On 2013-05-25, at 4:46 PM, "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@runbox.com> wrote:

Hello, so my question is for pretty experienced Firefox users then. I've been a user of Internet Explorer since I got Windows98, and that was in 1999. If I switch to Firefox, will Jaws give me the same amount of navigation and ease that I have with IE? I'd like to be able to use the same first-letter navigation that I can with IE. What differences will I encounter, and have Firefox users totally abandond Internet Explorer, or occasionally had to go back for some feature?
Thanks a lot for your input.
Matthew

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