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Re: Blatant Rant
Dave...
Steve,
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And of course, you'll write this number into a text file that you can find in the future, correct? Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 05:44 Subject: Re: Blatant Rant Exactly my plan. I was discussing this with another local JAWS user, and we both agreed we haven't seen that number on any packaging since versiion 7. On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:32:30 -0700, you wrote: Since you didn't record that number in a file somewhere, you will need to_______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Erratic Behavior With Jaws
John ESherrer
I ran it on evaluation mode for a couple of months but now I have upgraded
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from JAWS 13. I started with the JAWS 14 beta and then it converted to the evaluation version. Maybe I should have removed the evaluation version and then installed JAWS 14? John
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:09 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws Does JAWS work when you first fully restart your computer? I ask because I have been having a problem with a JAWS error 6 message which causes jaws to go in to demo mode and stop working after 40 minutes. If you are perhaps getting this message or for some other reason jaws is running in demo mode then you will find when you wake your computer up from sleep that jaws does nothing as the demo mode has run out during the time the computer was asleep. Is your jaws running in demo mode at all? Are you getting any messages? Peter -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer Sent: 22 March 2013 23:44 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws I just hit enter on the log on screen since I have no password. I have tried alt tab. John -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:17 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws John, It seems so obvious, but you don't mention here whether you re-enter your Win7 password. Assuming that's not the issue, have you tried a refresh with JAWS key+escape? How about pressing alt+tab to move away from the screen, release, and then alt+tab again to return to the screen? -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:08 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws Hi JAWS Users When I close my laptop computer using JAWS 14 in W7 often when I start again JAWS will tell me about the log on screen and then and I will press endter. Then JAWS will not speak and I will have to force the computer off and start again. I have tried insert + space bar and then S, doing this twice. I have tried to turn JAWS off and reload, no luck. John Sherrer -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:54 PM To: JFW List Subject: Irratic Behavior With Jaws Hi All, I got this link from, Top Tech Tidbits, discussing handling irratic behavior with Jaws. 4) "Handling Erratic Behavior with AT" is an article that gives systematic ideas for dealing with JAWS quirks: http://juicystudio.com/article/handling-erratic-behaviour-at.php Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201303 22/8f97d542/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: IE 10, jaws 14, and google preferences
Soronel Haetir
Interesting, I have the same setup also and even the instant results
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radio button reads correctly for me.
On 3/25/13, David Bailes <david_bailes@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Phil, --
Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com
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Re: IE 10, jaws 14, and google preferences
David Bailes
Hi Phil,
using the same combination, I don't have all of the problems. The check box for the results page is ok, and the save button is also ok. There is a problem with the group of radio buttons for setting instant results. If you're in forms mode and use an arrow key to change which option is selected, then that option is checked visibily, and in practice, but jaws reads it as unchecked. NVDA also reads it as unchecked. It appears that the information whether one of these radio buttons is checked is presented in a different way in ie10 compared to ie9 and that jaws and nvda aren't picking up this information. Â David. Â original message: I am running jaws v14.0.1534. I installed IE 10 under windows 7 pro 64-bit. When I attempt to make changes to my preferences on the www.google.com/preferences page, I am not able to interact with most of the forms. I cannot check one of the radio buttons for setting instant results. Also, the check box for having result pages opened in a new window is missing, and the save button is also missing. I uninstalled IE 10, and everything is back to "normal". Does anyone know if this problem might be an IE 10 issue, or how jaws is working with ie 10? Thanks Phil
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Re: Blatant Rant
Cristóbal
I have a copy of my authorization number brailled out in my rolodex along
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with a text file saved in my dropbox folder because of this exact reason.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 5:44 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant Exactly the purpose of my rant. On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:20:32 -0400, you wrote: If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with_______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?
Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
I wish they would change this activation system. It really sucks.
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On 25/03/2013, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:
That's what I'm a-doin'. I was just hoping somebody had some, ya know,
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Re: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?
Steve Matzura
That's what I'm a-doin'. I was just hoping somebody had some, ya know,
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secret insite. LOL.
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:10:33 -0400, you wrote:
Play it safe. Put everything into the machine, install any required software
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Re: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?
James Homuth
Play it safe. Put everything into the machine, install any required software
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and/or updates, then authorize. Nothing you're doing *should* impact your machine's lock code, but as you say FS's licensing system's been known to be somewhat confusing. So, just so you're not repeating yourself later, install everything you need first, then authorize. James, List Admin
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: March 25, 2013 9:07 AM To: jfw Subject: What do you know about how JAWS authorization works? This is the big mystery question. I have encountered things over the years that have broken my authorizations such that I had to wind up getting a dongle to solve one annoying problem, such as adding memory or even adding a driver for a USB device which, when connected, changes the machine's footprint ID, making JAWS think it's a different machine. I am now faced with a computer that has as much memory in it as it's going to get, but with one out of two possible installed drives. I'll turn on the other drive, which is a BIOS tweak, before proceeding with the following. I am planning on installing two more drives which will be attached to a SATA controller card which I will also be installing. I'm wondering which of these things will break my authorization, causing me to have to get yet another ILM key, which I don't want to do if I can avoid that hassle. So, should I just put everything into the machine that's going to be put into it, then authorize, or should I authorize first, then install the hardware if doing that won't change the machine's ID? _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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What do you know about how JAWS authorization works?
Steve Matzura
This is the big mystery question. I have encountered things over the
years that have broken my authorizations such that I had to wind up getting a dongle to solve one annoying problem, such as adding memory or even adding a driver for a USB device which, when connected, changes the machine's footprint ID, making JAWS think it's a different machine. I am now faced with a computer that has as much memory in it as it's going to get, but with one out of two possible installed drives. I'll turn on the other drive, which is a BIOS tweak, before proceeding with the following. I am planning on installing two more drives which will be attached to a SATA controller card which I will also be installing. I'm wondering which of these things will break my authorization, causing me to have to get yet another ILM key, which I don't want to do if I can avoid that hassle. So, should I just put everything into the machine that's going to be put into it, then authorize, or should I authorize first, then install the hardware if doing that won't change the machine's ID?
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Re: Blatant Rant
Steve Matzura
Well that makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine.
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Not to mention the fact that in my hand right thi second, I hold a sleeve containing a version 14 installation CD, and on thesleeve in braille it says "JAWS 14 SMA". What exactly is that even supposed to mean? Does it mean this is my last version before an SMA renewal is required? Does it mean the sleeve contains the SMA renewal disk like the old days? Neither is true. The sleeve actually contains the version 14 installation disk. Well, it's just after 8:30 Eastern Time, I'll let you all know how this shakes out after I call down there and learn what's what.
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:25:35 +0200, you wrote:
As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
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Re: Blatant Rant
Steve Matzura
Tom, I said the same thing last night to my local JAWS-using friend. I
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have now spent over half an hour trying to find it and have come up empty-handed. I don't know if it's obfuscated, or I'm just not looking for the right thing. Either way, I'm off to get the info I need from the horse's mouth. Then maybe I'll search the registry for that specific piece of information. If I find it, I'll let you know where it can be found in there.
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:16:29 -0700, you wrote:
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Re: Blatant Rant
Steve Matzura
Exactly the purpose of my rant.
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:20:32 -0400, you wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
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Re: Blatant Rant
Steve Matzura
Exactly my plan. I was discussing this with another local JAWS user,
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and we both agreed we haven't seen that number on any packaging since versiion 7.
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:32:30 -0700, you wrote:
Since you didn't record that number in a file somewhere, you will need to
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Re: Blatant Rant
Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
I have never gotten a new number since Jaws 6 and my SMAS are up-to-date.
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Rose Combs rosecombs@Q.com
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:26 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change when you upgrrade or renew SMA. On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote: If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWSprovides this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But Iagree, we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from sevenMatzura Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM_______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Blatant Rant
Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
The almost unreadable authorization number is on the Jaws 6 CD and should
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also be stored on the computer. I know, I have had to have my husband read mine a couple of times because the braille label is almost all smashed out and if I do it alone I get something incorrect. Only time I have needed it was for a new computer. Rose Combs rosecombs@Q.com
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:38 AM To: jfw Subject: Blatant Rant I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD. OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions that came in two different packages. I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using, which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then, I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing? Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow morning when FS technical support opens for business. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dictation program and JAWS?
Karoline Bourdeau <karoline.bourdeau@...>
I am using windows 7 and Jaws 14. I'd like to start using the dictation
program included in Windows 7. It turns JAWS off when I turn the dictation one on. Is there a way to use both together? Karoline Bourdeau www.thankingplace.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20130324/af38ac71/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 2535 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20130324/af38ac71/attachment.gif>
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Re: JFW friendly Internet relay chat
Frank Ventura
Thanks, is there a link to it somewhere?
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:16 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JFW friendly Internet relay chat Last I knew, mIRC with Speech is still the only one worth even trying. It's easy to set up, but because it has many good features, it's a little complex to use. But if you're a dedicated IRC'er, you'll get the hang of it. On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:37:33 -0600, you wrote: Hi all can anyone recommend an accessible IRC (Internet relay chat) client that works with JFW and how to btain scripts if necessary?_______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Blatant Rant
Angel
Freedom Scientific will give your authorization number to you if you call. I suspect the same can be gotten by e-mail. I know when I had to reformat my computer I asked for mine; and they were most accommodating.
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From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com> To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM Subject: Blatant Rant I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
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AZ Cardfile & Jaws
Crystal French
Hi,
I am using Windows 7 Home Premium, and the latest version of Jaws 14. I have downloaded the trial version of AZ Cardfile, version 4. It, of course, has more bells and whistles than the beloved old Cardfile program. If there is anyone using this program who can share some tips on using it, I sure would appreciate it. It does appear to be useable, but I am wondering about shortcuts, or what might make it more Jaws friendly. Thanks, and, also, if someone is using the version 3 and find it works betters with Jaws, please let me know that. Crystal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20130324/d6d59788/attachment.html>
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Re: Blatant Rant
James Homuth
Your authorization number only changes in the event you've let your SMA
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lapse and need a new one. If you renew your existing one, you keep the same serial number and authorization number. I've had mine since I'm not entirely sure when and it's never changed. As for the authorization number, I think FS will provide that to you over the phone if you ask for it. At least, they used to. That's kind of a non-issue over here since it's stored in a text file, and that text file's in 5 or 6 different places, but I believe that's how I obtained it since, like you, I didn't keep the old install package from a version of JAWS that was forever and a half ago, and I know I've changed computers etc since then. James, List Admin
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: March 24, 2013 2:25 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Blatant Rant Different issue, Aidan. You're quite right that the number doesn't change. I'm only agreeing with what I take to be Steve's point that we need occasional reminders, such as each time a new version is shipped. I bet most JAWS users have trashed their old JAWS CD/DVD packages without remembering that 6.0 had both a braille record of the authorization number and the authorization disc. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:26 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Blatant Rant As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change when you upgrrade or renew SMA. On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote: If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWSprovides this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But Iagree, we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from sevenMatzura Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM_______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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